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2012-06-03 11:30:55 AM
i.imgur.com

What a stylish and sustainable modular home may look like?

Also, the problem with trailer homes has never been the trailers themselves - it's the trailer park, the people who live in them, and the proximity with which they live to each other.
 
2012-06-03 11:46:38 AM
It would seem that FARK has a new sponsor... it goes by the name of MNN.
 
2012-06-03 11:47:56 AM
imprimere: It would seem that FARK has a new sponsor... it goes by the name of MNN.
 
2012-06-03 11:48:41 AM
We called 'em "T-buildings" down in Texas. ("T" for "temporary".)

And, for us, it was elementary or middle school only.

/psb
//"p" for "pointless"
 
2012-06-03 11:49:07 AM
We called them The Portables, and from elementary school through high school, they were always for the Special Ed kids.
 
2012-06-03 11:50:05 AM
Nope. My high school had enough classrooms for all the classes. Of course, some of us were forced to take lunch at 10:30am to accommodate. Mmm, breakfast burger...
 
2012-06-03 11:52:00 AM
www.dreamhomesalesinc.com

Damn right, son. Mine's a triple-wide.
 
2012-06-03 11:53:10 AM
So... someone reinvented the trailer house?

..what? Oh.....

Sorry, I meant to say "Manufactured Home"
 
2012-06-03 11:53:45 AM
Babwa Wawa: [i.imgur.com image 530x300]

What a stylish and sustainable modular home may look like?

Also, the problem with trailer homes has never been the trailers themselves - it's the trailer park, the people who live in them, and the proximity with which they live to each other.


I thought the problem was the tornado magnets they installed underneath the trailers.
 
2012-06-03 11:57:19 AM
In my elementary school they used to send the kids who hadn't learned to read by grade 5 to the trailer outside.
 
2012-06-03 11:57:40 AM
Composed of two trailers, the three-bedroom home in Granada Hills was completed for $100,000 in around ten weeks

Holy shiat. They managed to make mobile homes expensive and slow to produce.
 
2012-06-03 12:03:13 PM
wildcardjack: Composed of two trailers, the three-bedroom home in Granada Hills was completed for $100,000 in around ten weeks

Holy shiat. They managed to make mobile homes expensive and slow to produce.


They have never been all that cheap. Just cheaper than building a house.
 
2012-06-03 12:10:45 PM
The modular classrooms around here are POS stickbuilt structures; the best way to "recycle" them involves 5 gallons of diesel and a highway flare.

The ones in TFA seem to be made of sterner stuff, like a shipping container with a gable roof. Those might be worth re-purposing.
 
2012-06-03 12:29:59 PM
As someone who spent a good portion of my childhood in a trailer (thanks mom!) I read tfa in disbelief, that hipsters had finally gone there, to the trailer.
 
2012-06-03 12:31:24 PM
Babwa Wawa: [i.imgur.com image 530x300]

What a stylish and sustainable modular home may look like?

Also, the problem with trailer homes has never been the trailers themselves - it's the trailer park, the people who live in them, and the proximity with which they live to each other.


Broad brush paint very sloppy
 
2012-06-03 12:34:01 PM
The elementary school where I grew up ended up needing a bunch
of Portable Classrooms. No where else to put 'em so they were placed in the grassy field that had been used for sports/PE. No more soccer/baseball/football/track for that school, I guess.
 
2012-06-03 12:39:17 PM
concertaddicts.ca
"Check out those Palaces Randy."
"One day mister Lahey, one day."
 
2012-06-03 12:44:07 PM
Trailer houses are the new hotness? Eh, I don't really need a sprawling mansion, so I'd be cool with one. It's the type of people attracted to a trailer park that I'm not cool with.
 
2012-06-03 12:51:05 PM
Babwa Wawa: it's the trailer park,

Honest Bender: t's the type of people attracted to a trailer park that I'm not cool with.

You do know they put these things other places, right?

Double wide on three acres.

Sure I'm trailer trash, but with property!
 
2012-06-03 12:57:16 PM
We had Portakabins at our school for latin and R.E. lessons while a new extension was being built - hot, stuffy and smelly in summer and freezing, damp and smelly in winter. All in all I'd rather have known nothing of latin or religion and stayed in the comfy main building.
 
2012-06-03 01:01:28 PM
kroonermanblack: wildcardjack: Composed of two trailers, the three-bedroom home in Granada Hills was completed for $100,000 in around ten weeks

Holy shiat. They managed to make mobile homes expensive and slow to produce.

They have never been all that cheap. Just cheaper than building a house.


Uh.. actually they have were about 30- 40% of the cost of a real home (in the double wide variety), about 25% if you bought a single wide model back in the 70's. The real reason for the saviings was that MH's were built as cheaply as possible. 2x4 exteriors in cold climates, 2x2 and 2x3 interior walls with panel board (sheetrock happened about the time their costs exceeded 40k or offered as an "upgrade" to paneling). If you lived up north they were cold due to poor insulation techniques and poorly fitted windows and door hardware unless you kept that furnace cranked up. Homeowners tried to save money with the introduction of a wood stove which more often than not caused late night fires as fire retardant materials were seldom used. Due to poor construction, wind shear could strip the outer skin, or in severe cases, topple the trailer. There appeared to be few regulations governing the construction of these boxes.I spent a couple years refurbing mobile homes in the early 80's so I'm very familiar with what materials go into these things- would never own one as a result.

Of course, back then trailers were considered a stepping stone to owning a real home. Bad economy in the late 70's and early 80's resulted in these homes becoming permant housing or a more economical and accepted alternative to a stick built home.

Thanks to current building code, techniques, demand, etc todays manufactured homes are a little better but keep in mind, they are still not as well built as their stick built counter parts. To economize, they use construction techniques tailored to the regions they serve. MH have 2x5 exterior walls and better quality insulation up north but have hurricane tiedowns to the south. The real draw to todays MH is that they stock them full of bling- Tiles, wall to wall carpeting and engineered wood floors (intead of the traditional linoleum), granite counter tops, open spaces: much of which has attributed to the spiralling costs of MH. The savings is in the construction techniques (most of them are built assy line and indoors) and the use of cheaper engineered construction materials. While goverened under manufacturing code, most do not meet the same code as their stick built counterparts and are still regulated to similarly coded areas (trailor parks) or open zone areas (light industrial, agricultural, multi residential) and remain excluded from stick built neighborhoods.

There are some hybrids out there that are pretty nice where they assemble portions of a home on an assy line then assemble the portions on site- These have much more stringent construction codes, the use of better materials and are similarly priced to their stick built counter parts. They are not considered MH but as an alternative to building on site in harsher climates and offer some savings in being assembly line produced.
 
2012-06-03 01:02:19 PM
FTA - "Prices for the homes start at $100 per square foot..."

Seriously?? You gotta be shiatting me... $100 per foot?!?!?!

With the current cost of labor and materials, you can build a pretty decent house for $70-90 per square foot. Possibly less if you're working on a site already graded and prepped with utilities.

Who that fark would do this??

"B-b-b-b-but the environment!!"

How much "energy" do you save when my stickbuilt house is still standing in 100 years and your modular POS has been replaced a couple times already?

/Also... is Fark now a subsidiary of the Mother Nature Network or something?
 
GBB
2012-06-03 01:12:04 PM
I Am The Bishop Of East Anglia: We called 'em "T-buildings" down in Texas. ("T" for "temporary".)

And, for us, it was elementary or middle school only.

/psb
//"p" for "pointless"


T for "time to leave"??
 
2012-06-03 01:15:55 PM
sanriosucks: As someone who spent a good portion of my childhood in a trailer (thanks mom!) I read tfa in disbelief, that hipsters had finally gone there, to the trailer.

This shocks you? I'm also a "trailer park baby" and the clothes that I got teased for wearing are fashionable now. Fark you John Q. Public.
 
2012-06-03 01:18:46 PM
chud21: Babwa Wawa: it's the trailer park,

Honest Bender: t's the type of people attracted to a trailer park that I'm not cool with.

You do know they put these things other places, right?

Double wide on three acres.

Sure I'm trailer trash, but with property!


Oh yeah. That's precisely the point. Someone who tells you they live in a trailer/modular home is one thing. They can be really nice.

OTOH, somone tells you they live in shady acres trailer park off the interstate? That's something else entirely.
 
2012-06-03 01:19:03 PM
I'm looking at a 1400sqft home for about 99k. (~$72sqft?) Does not include the 940sqft in the basement that will be finished. I do get: 2x4 w/brick exterior, 2x12 floor joists, 1.25" wide oak plank flooring (older homes so surfaced nailed) throughout the home, 8" joists supporting my roofing (with a decent pitch). All in a package that has proven to be tornado resistant for the last 51 years.

Again- with today's MH, you're paying a much higher price for the bling. If i bought my home fully loded with toy's, it would probably cost me another 30k (for about 20k worth of actual stuff)
 
2012-06-03 01:22:03 PM
imprimere: sanriosucks: As someone who spent a good portion of my childhood in a trailer (thanks mom!) I read tfa in disbelief, that hipsters had finally gone there, to the trailer.

This shocks you? I'm also a "trailer park baby" and the clothes that I got teased for wearing are fashionable now. Fark you John Q. Public.


I prefer "trailer court". "Trailer park" just sounds too mobile.
 
2012-06-03 01:40:08 PM
wellreadneck: imprimere: sanriosucks: As someone who spent a good portion of my childhood in a trailer (thanks mom!) I read tfa in disbelief, that hipsters had finally gone there, to the trailer.

This shocks you? I'm also a "trailer park baby" and the clothes that I got teased for wearing are fashionable now. Fark you John Q. Public.

I prefer "trailer court". "Trailer park" just sounds too mobile.


You can polish a turd...
 
2012-06-03 01:42:26 PM
Just a double-wide.

Do they also smell like chalk?
 
2012-06-03 01:44:02 PM
Gough: The modular classrooms around here are POS stickbuilt structures; the best way to "recycle" them involves 5 gallons of diesel and a highway flare.

The ones in TFA seem to be made of sterner stuff, like a shipping container with a gable roof. Those might be worth re-purposing.


you'll find using a gasoline 'primer' much more user friendly when igniting diesel. or so i've heard.
 
2012-06-03 01:44:27 PM
imprimere: You can polish a turd...

No, no, no, you CAN'T polish a turd, but you CAN roll it in glitter.
 
2012-06-03 01:45:27 PM
Reading the company's website... from their FAQ:

"The price does not include: The cost of the land, Local permitting, Site work done in preparation for the home, Shipping and installing the home, Custom fixtures or finishes, Any additions such as basements or garages."

Obviously... you're on your own to buy the land and such... that's understandable... but at $100 per square foot you hafta pick it up at their factory and install it yourself?!?! Hopefully they have a "Vaseline" option available so the anal rape rape doesn't hurt as much.

/Architects are experts at CYA... by not being involved in the transport and install, they can blame any warranty issues on the GC.
 
2012-06-03 02:06:00 PM
What, no interior finished pics?

The one in the picture looks like a re purposed shipping container originally built to code that might actually be worth gutting, moving and refurbishing. But the ones they cobbled together for the elementary and high schools I attended to deal with overcrowding were total POSs that were searing hot in summer, freezing cold in winter and eventually condemned and torn down after a few years due to mold.
 
2012-06-03 02:09:21 PM
Pert: imprimere: You can polish a turd...

No, no, no, you CAN'T polish a turd, but you CAN roll it in glitter.


...aaaand it's still a turd!
 
2012-06-03 02:34:13 PM
Additionally, most schoolyard trailers are composed of two 12 by 40-foot segments that are easy to reconfigure and play around with when deciding the final layout of a home.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-06-03 02:34:43 PM
I work for a school district who's district headquarters consists of portable buildings. Many of our schools have them as well and, according to the Superintendent, "we'll work in portables as long as kids are learning in them".
 
2012-06-03 02:41:20 PM
I used to build those things when I was 20.

You can buy them in good shape for $7k, delivered and set up. Great deal.
 
2012-06-03 02:49:44 PM
Really? There may be good trailer parks out there, but they are few and far between. You simply can't put families separated by 15 feet and some aluminum with good results.

The problem isn't with modular housing. Those houses can be made nice. The problem is sticking a half dozen of them on a quarter acre.
 
2012-06-03 02:55:23 PM
KrispyKritter: Gough: The modular classrooms around here are POS stickbuilt structures; the best way to "recycle" them involves 5 gallons of diesel and a highway flare.

The ones in TFA seem to be made of sterner stuff, like a shipping container with a gable roof. Those might be worth re-purposing.

you'll find using a gasoline 'primer' much more user friendly when igniting diesel. or so i've heard.


In open spaces, yes. I'm more hesitant to use it indoors. I want plenty of room to stop, drop, and roll.
 
2012-06-03 02:59:57 PM
$100K???? Might as well build one from scratch. What's the point?
 
2012-06-03 03:11:53 PM
This is sad on two levels:

1. That kids have to take their classes in trailers instead of real buildings like they are supposed to. If there are more kids in the school district, put up a building or expand the current one. Of course that would take TAXX MUNNEEEZZZ! and we certainly can't have that (I'm looking at you california proposition 13).

2. That even with the phenomenal crash in real estate prices a real house is STILL too expensive for too many people, even those of us fortunate enough to have otherwise decent jobs. That's just farked up.
 
2012-06-03 03:16:41 PM
When I was in 4th grade I was actually VERY glad to be in a portable. At the time, the school, then an elementary school, the main building had no AC. The only ones that did were portables.
 
2012-06-03 03:31:20 PM
IIRC, the Province of New Brunswick requires you have a one acre lot (outside of the towns). In any case, most trailers seem to be on separate wooded lots, purchased by the owner of the trailer. Some of the larger double-wides are fairly comfortable, although the cheap light construction gives them negligible re-sale value. It's not unusual for a house to be built over a period of twenty years in New Brunswick. They start it when they have the money and time to pour a basement and put up the basic frame, and continue to work on it as time and money are available.

It's impossible to get insurance or a mortgage in the back woods, even if you are reasonably prosperous, so this is the only way to housing, let alone home ownership. If the builder is a good and industrious carpenter and his wife is handy, they end up with a nice little cottage that is much better built than the common run of commercial ticky-tacky. If the family is lumpenproletariat, they start with a tar-paper shack and it goes downhill from there.

As for portable classrooms, they are like the Black Hole of Calcutta in warm weather (and this is in Canada!) and cold as old one room school houses in the winter. I hope whoever buys these units can afford to pay an exorbitant amount of money for heat and AC.

You can already buy modular houses that are much better than those crap boxes and which can be put together so that you can barely tell them from regular bungalows built on site. A lot of the working class owners build the second half of the house when they get the money, making it into a hybrid bungalow, possibly with a veranda or annexes.

Mind you, building codes aren't as strict on materials and construction in the Southern US as in Canada because the Canadian weather makes better quality staples, glue and pasteboard necessary when building homes or monster homes for the 99%. When I visit towns I knew as a child, I find they are filling up with apartment blocks that look like something from Scandinavia, New England or the better bits of Russia. They are stylish and adapted to the climate despite looking like over-grown wood-frame houses in Georgian or various forms of carpenter's Queen Anne, Gothic, New-Classical, Federalist, or other styles.

I love that multi-story trailer park. It is a magnificent example of red neck never-say-die ingenuity and kitsch. It reminds me of Habitat '67 in Montreal. Makes me smile when I see it.
 
2012-06-03 04:40:04 PM
clowncar on fire: I'm looking at a 1400sqft home for about 99k. (~$72sqft?) Does not include the 940sqft in the basement that will be finished. I do get: 2x4 w/brick exterior, 2x12 floor joists, 1.25" wide oak plank flooring (older homes so surfaced nailed) throughout the home, 8" joists supporting my roofing (with a decent pitch). All in a package that has proven to be tornado resistant for the last 51 years.

Again- with today's MH, you're paying a much higher price for the bling. If i bought my home fully loded with toy's, it would probably cost me another 30k (for about 20k worth of actual stuff)


Location, location, location. In many cities, $97k wouldn't get you a shoebox.
 
2012-06-03 06:26:19 PM
Badgers: Additionally, most schoolyard trailers are composed of two 12 by 40-foot segments that are easy to reconfigure and play around with when deciding the final layout of a home.

[i.imgur.com image 640x427]


That's how it started...

ringothecat.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-03 06:38:13 PM
HumanSnatcher: When I was in 4th grade I was actually VERY glad to be in a portable. At the time, the school, then an elementary school, the main building had no AC. The only ones that did were portables.

Did we go to the same school?
 
2012-06-03 07:20:21 PM
rewind2846: This is sad on two levels:

1. That kids have to take their classes in trailers instead of real buildings like they are supposed to. If there are more kids in the school district, put up a building or expand the current one. Of course that would take TAXX MUNNEEEZZZ! and we certainly can't have that (I'm looking at you california proposition 13).

2. That even with the phenomenal crash in real estate prices a real house is STILL too expensive for too many people, even those of us fortunate enough to have otherwise decent jobs. That's just farked up.


What the bloody fark does a building have to do with an education? If kids are being taught in caves or mines or whorehouses, and they're learning stuff, who cares?
 
2012-06-03 07:33:33 PM
redmid17: HumanSnatcher: When I was in 4th grade I was actually VERY glad to be in a portable. At the time, the school, then an elementary school, the main building had no AC. The only ones that did were portables.

Did we go to the same school?


Same here. And in AZ, that was a godsend. Doors were never closed in the brick buildings.
 
2012-06-03 07:35:42 PM
kroonermanblack: rewind2846: This is sad on two levels:

1. That kids have to take their classes in trailers instead of real buildings like they are supposed to. If there are more kids in the school district, put up a building or expand the current one. Of course that would take TAXX MUNNEEEZZZ! and we certainly can't have that (I'm looking at you california proposition 13).

2. That even with the phenomenal crash in real estate prices a real house is STILL too expensive for too many people, even those of us fortunate enough to have otherwise decent jobs. That's just farked up.

What the bloody fark does a building have to do with an education? If kids are being taught in caves or mines or whorehouses, and they're learning stuff, who cares?


It appears you've never sat in a portable during a rainstorm or a hailstorm
 
2012-06-03 08:27:58 PM
rewind2846: 1. That kids have to take their classes in trailers instead of real buildings like they are supposed to. If there are more kids in the school district, put up a building or expand the current one. Of course that would take TAXX MUNNEEEZZZ! and we certainly can't have that (I'm looking at you california proposition 13).

I took many classes in high school in modular buildings. It's not the worst thing in the world, you know. Modular buildings are a very good solution to "blips" in student population. If you have 1000 students in a school in 2012, you're expecting 1500 in 2015, and ramp back down to 1000 in 2018, the answer is not to build a new permanent school.

There are very reliable models for modeling student populations, BTW, and further modular buildings are usually seen in high schools, where you don't even have to model the future student populations.
 
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