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(Reuters)   Collective of Portland cellists entertain local hipsters by using their cellos to play hip-hop anthems. "Some tracks, like 50 Cent's In Da Club, contain hooks, bridges, and other parts too complicated or mismatched for classical"   (reuters.com) divider line 55
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2012-06-03 01:40:35 AM  
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"Come on people, somebody ordered the London Symphony Orchestra... possibly while high. Cypress Hill, I'm looking in your general direction."
 
2012-06-03 01:44:06 AM  
We also have Star Trek in the Park.

craphound.com
 
2012-06-03 02:03:41 AM  
Just tell them that their chicken was raised 30 miles away and get rid of them.
 
2012-06-03 02:14:13 AM  
Eh, I'll stick with Apocalyptica.
 
2012-06-03 02:20:08 AM  
No samples of the music?

The concept sounds like Black Violin who I know from when they played Santana Moss' wedding years ago. Not bad.
 
2012-06-03 03:04:04 AM  
Portland Cello Project and Alan Spearhawk of Low cover "Institutionalized"

Saw the headline and figured it was the same guys. Actually, it's really good.
 
2012-06-03 03:06:17 AM  
Do hipsters listen to hip-hop? Oh god, is there hipster hip-hop?
 
2012-06-03 03:44:49 AM  

The Gentleman Caller: Do hipsters listen to hip-hop? Oh god, is there hipster hip-hop?


Yes, MC Chris.
 
2012-06-03 03:46:34 AM  
Why do white musicians from other genres think it's so ironic and funny to cover hip hop songs? shiat is lame every single time.
 
2012-06-03 03:59:25 AM  

keepitcherry: Why do white musicians from other genres think it's so ironic and funny to cover hip hop songs? shiat is lame every single time.


Heh, if you really want to hear lame, I can't stand it when my church(UMC) tries to get the whole congregation to sing 'Celebrate' by Kool & the Gang. Truly cringeworthy, every time.
 
2012-06-03 04:00:56 AM  

fusillade762: We also have Star Trek in the Park.

[craphound.com image 600x926]


Don't forget Mondo Croquet!
 
2012-06-03 04:28:02 AM  
1 = 9
 
2012-06-03 04:28:26 AM  
It must be weird to be really, really good at something nobody cares about.

I can see why these people would want to try and copy something popular and play it.
 
2012-06-03 04:30:13 AM  
"Too complicated or mismatched for classical"

Bullshiat. What the hell are they listening to? Josh Grobin? LOL! Take any 10 seconds of Bach or Stravinsky and it will shame any drum machine "artist".

/FAIL
 
2012-06-03 04:31:47 AM  

LewDux: 1 = 9


Goldfrapp FTW...
 
2012-06-03 05:16:08 AM  

Alphax: keepitcherry: Why do white musicians from other genres think it's so ironic and funny to cover hip hop songs? shiat is lame every single time.

Heh, if you really want to hear lame, I can't stand it when my church(UMC) tries to get the whole congregation to sing 'Celebrate' by Kool & the Gang. Truly cringeworthy, every time.


Hahaha that's awesome
 
2012-06-03 05:55:10 AM  

keepitcherry: Why do white musicians from other genres think it's so ironic and funny to cover hip hop songs? shiat is lame every single time.


It's possible to sample legitimately without pretending it's ironic. Classical music has thematic allusions to other pieces, blues and jazz are almost nothing but allusions to other pieces most of the time, and the genre swap is a staple of both Rock and Country music without any "ironic" component. Sampling and covers are big in Rap and R&B as well, so basically I'm seeing no reason it shouldn't go the other way.

Hell, one of my favorite country&western songs is a cover of "Gin and Juice" and it's presented with a completely straight (figurative) face, and most of the R&B I'd call tolerable is almost a straight rip of '70s and '80s pop music.

//Admittedly, it's pretty obvious when a musician thinks he's being 'clever' with a genre swap, and the smug _does_ take most of the fun out of a given song.
 
2012-06-03 06:17:12 AM  

Kell Bartok: "Too complicated or mismatched for classical"

Bullshiat. What the hell are they listening to? Josh Grobin? LOL! Take any 10 seconds of Bach or Stravinsky and it will shame any drum machine "artist".

/FAIL


I also call bullshiat, but not because it can't be done, or because it's simple to do. Any style of music can be re-arranged for a different style of music. Shiat, styles of music can be re-arranged into different sub-styles of the same genre. Remember that version of 'My Funny Valentine' Melinda Doolittle did during one of the American Idols years ago? It's not a straight version, it's the same song, but it's kinda gospel r&bish, and it sounds good. (I mean, it really, really sounds good.) (Where the hell is she at, now?)

For comparison: The blue-eyed british soul version, by Gordon Sumner and some white dude on trumpet (okay, it's some dude named Chris Botti), which is straighter. It also sounds good, just a different good from Melinda's version (and frankly, not as good, but that's a matter of what I like to hear, some folks will prefer Gordon's version over Melinda because it will be more pleasing to their ears, and that's alright).

My opinion, the secret is getting someone who can do the arranging. If the group can't do it themselves, just hire someone who can. It's a gift, and a talent, and it's okay not to do everything one's self.
 
2012-06-03 06:19:18 AM  

Jim_Callahan: keepitcherry: Why do white musicians from other genres think it's so ironic and funny to cover hip hop songs? shiat is lame every single time.

It's possible to sample legitimately without pretending it's ironic. Classical music has thematic allusions to other pieces, blues and jazz are almost nothing but allusions to other pieces most of the time, and the genre swap is a staple of both Rock and Country music without any "ironic" component. Sampling and covers are big in Rap and R&B as well, so basically I'm seeing no reason it shouldn't go the other way.

Hell, one of my favorite country&western songs is a cover of "Gin and Juice" and it's presented with a completely straight (figurative) face, and most of the R&B I'd call tolerable is almost a straight rip of '70s and '80s pop music.

//Admittedly, it's pretty obvious when a musician thinks he's being 'clever' with a genre swap, and the smug _does_ take most of the fun out of a given song.


I'd love to hear that version, especially if it were done sincerely instead of suburban bong-smoking smugly.
 
2012-06-03 06:42:08 AM  
"Welcome to the Jungle" on 2 cellos (Sulic & Hauser)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSByjqMGtaU -->

/you're welcome
 
2012-06-03 06:50:01 AM  
See (hear) also symphonic Floyd, "Apocalyptica," symphonic Metallica.
 
2012-06-03 06:54:48 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: I'd love to hear that version, especially if it were done sincerely instead of suburban bong-smoking smugly.


It was mislabeled years ago on the 'net before Youtube as by Weird Al, which it was not, it's by "The Gourds."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur1N3UyT1lE -->

/search utube for artist title, there are plenty, I only picked the 'official' which seems to be just a pic, no vid
 
2012-06-03 06:59:39 AM  

Five Minute Standup: Portland Cello Project and Alan Spearhawk of Low cover "Institutionalized"

Saw the headline and figured it was the same guys. Actually, it's really good.


came to post this. I think I'm more surprised by Alan Sparhawk's contribution.
 
2012-06-03 07:04:24 AM  
This seems rather lame for Portland. I expect something much weirder from my neighbors to the north.
 
2012-06-03 07:05:53 AM  
I have a friend who does violin covers of pop songs. I don't think he's ever tried to cover hip hop tunes though, I think he's stuck mostly to Gaga, Madonna, and Brittney Spears.
 
2012-06-03 07:43:31 AM  
White people doing soulless covers of rap songs stomping on your face. Forever.
 
2012-06-03 07:45:15 AM  

urban.derelict: ExperianScaresCthulhu: I'd love to hear that version, especially if it were done sincerely instead of suburban bong-smoking smugly.

It was mislabeled years ago on the 'net before Youtube as by Weird Al, which it was not, it's by "The Gourds."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur1N3UyT1lE -->

/search utube for artist title, there are plenty, I only picked the 'official' which seems to be just a pic, no vid


Yep, that has been around for years, even on Jukeboxes. Lots of good use of ye old jews harp in that song.
 
2012-06-03 07:55:14 AM  
Yes, I agree with you completely. I guess what I had a problem with was those who can call 50cent more intelligent than the classical giants. Or for anyone that can write a song with more than 4 chords in it for that matter.


ExperianScaresCthulhu: Kell Bartok: "Too complicated or mismatched for classical"

Bullshiat. What the hell are they listening to? Josh Grobin? LOL! Take any 10 seconds of Bach or Stravinsky and it will shame any drum machine "artist".

/FAIL

I also call bullshiat, but not because it can't be done, or because it's simple to do. Any style of music can be re-arranged for a different style of music. Shiat, styles of music can be re-arranged into different sub-styles of the same genre. Remember that version of 'My Funny Valentine' Melinda Doolittle did during one of the American Idols years ago? It's not a straight version, it's the same song, but it's kinda gospel r&bish, and it sounds good. (I mean, it really, really sounds good.) (Where the hell is she at, now?)

For comparison: The blue-eyed british soul version, by Gordon Sumner and some white dude on trumpet (okay, it's some dude named Chris Botti), which is straighter. It also sounds good, just a different good from Melinda's version (and frankly, not as good, but that's a matter of what I like to hear, some folks will prefer Gordon's version over Melinda because it will be more pleasing to their ears, and that's alright).

My opinion, the secret is getting someone who can do the arranging. If the group can't do it themselves, just hire someone who can. It's a gift, and a talent, and it's okay not to do everything one's self.

 
2012-06-03 08:02:40 AM  

95BV5: The Gentleman Caller: Do hipsters listen to hip-hop? Oh god, is there hipster hip-hop?

Yes, MC Chris.


It's mc chris, lower case, no dots (rewind!).


I know from experience that claiming such-and-such is "too complicated" for a classically trained musician is just a matter of being patronizing. Hip-hop has its merits (I actually like it quite a bit), but complexity in its background music is not one of them. Some passages might be difficult to sight read, but that is only because they have different tropes that don't show up in the etude books you use while learning. That doesn't make them hard, of course.

It's exactly why I actually had to practice a bit to play something like "The Devil Went Down to Georgia." The song is extremely easy to play, but my fingers aren't as used to some of the note patterns, so picking it up and playing without any preparation is nontrivial. The song does not take long to master. Contrast it with anything a cellist or violinist would normally play. Most of those pieces are not concert ready without hundreds of hours of practice. Hundreds.

A pop song might take an afternoon if it's really "complicated." Playing the notes normally sung by a rapper might be a bit of a hassle, especially without a machine keeping time for you, especially since you actually have to hit the right notes when you play a instrument.

I'm sure the article would like to spin the narrative that the snobby musicians who have thousands of hours of training are tripped up something we can all sing in the shower, but that sort of musical populism is misleading.


For those who don't own any Jacqueline Du Pre albums, I must say that cello music, though a step below violin music and piano music, is awesome. Denying it to yourself out of some misplaced reverse snobbery is a shame.
 
2012-06-03 08:13:51 AM  
Saying that young people today listen to MC Chris as their choice of hip hop is literally saying "Here in 1992, kids today listen to grunge music by Aerosmith". You're really farking clueless and should go back to REDDIT.
 
2012-06-03 08:19:11 AM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: Saying that young people today listen to MC Chris as their choice of hip hop is literally saying "Here in 1992, kids today listen to grunge music by Aerosmith". You're really farking clueless and should go back to REDDIT.


Since no one said that, I think we're safe.
 
2012-06-03 08:27:05 AM  
I guess I'm not young anymore.

/already have tickets to the next mc chris concert in my town
 
2012-06-03 08:31:53 AM  
Hip-hop is 'complicated' in a musical sense because of the texture of many of the songs. Yeah, a classically trained musician will have no problem playing some melody and bass lines, but there are other samples which aren't as easy to emulate - sound effects (not music) that have been stretched or sped-up; old samples of multiple instruments which have been distorted and modified (either deliberately or through poor sampling); record-scratches; melody-less vocal bits; reversed samples; and other mixes that sound good despite being in conflicting keys.
 
2012-06-03 08:36:54 AM  

NetOwl: I guess I'm not young anymore.

/already have tickets to the next mc chris concert in my town


I don't yet but I will soon.
 
2012-06-03 08:47:23 AM  
Why leave the non-musical effects in? Say you have a hip-hop song that has a clip from Blade Runner spliced in. When arranging that for cello, just leave Harrison Ford out (or leave him in if you're making a recording).

My main problem is more with the way things were stated than with the difficulty of reproducing effects. The current "anti-elitist" cultural meme is annoying.
 
2012-06-03 08:54:19 AM  
Although the band has been successful in many adaptations, not every bass line translates well. Some tracks, like 50 Cent's "In Da Club," contain hooks, bridges, and other parts too complicated or mismatched for classical.

The most difficult part of In Da Club is the refrain. The cellists keep dry humping their instruments out of tune while the violinists keep trying to pour one out from their Stradivariuses.

You can find me in the club, bottle full of bub Look mami, I got the X if you into takin' drugs I'm into havin' sex, I ain't into makin' love So come gimme a hug, if you're into gettin' rubbed
 
2012-06-03 09:07:24 AM  
99 problems but a female trust fund baby ain't one.
 
2012-06-03 09:18:09 AM  

The Gentleman Caller: Do hipsters listen to hip-hop? Oh god, is there hipster hip-hop?


Since hipsters don't actually stand for anything and just coopt and take other people's shiat, I wouldn't say they have their own rap music but they have attempted to infilitrate the genre. You know how they took and messed up alternative rock? Yeah, well they are really going after alternative rap. Went from weird stoners like Kool Keith and Hieroglyphics to douche bag hipsters trying to steal hip hop culture. I also wouldn't call mc chris a hipster, just another weird stoner. Stop confusing us weird ass stoners with hipsters, it ain't right.
 
2012-06-03 09:27:28 AM  
Cello covers always remind me of Rasputina - Lost and Found
 
2012-06-03 10:17:17 AM  
Whatsa matter mister frou-frou cellist? Can't hit the notes?
 
2012-06-03 10:43:21 AM  

TheJoe03: The Gentleman Caller: Do hipsters listen to hip-hop? Oh god, is there hipster hip-hop?

Since hipsters don't actually stand for anything and just coopt and take other people's shiat, I wouldn't say they have their own rap music but they have attempted to infilitrate the genre. You know how they took and messed up alternative rock? Yeah, well they are really going after alternative rap. Went from weird stoners like Kool Keith and Hieroglyphics to douche bag hipsters trying to steal hip hop culture. I also wouldn't call mc chris a hipster, just another weird stoner. Stop confusing us weird ass stoners with hipsters, it ain't right.


We can't help it. White people all look alike.
 
2012-06-03 10:55:15 AM  
My personal favorite cello cover.

Link
 
2012-06-03 10:59:34 AM  

Jumpin Jbot: We can't help it. White people all look alike.


Too bad I'm not white.
 
2012-06-03 11:10:44 AM  
harm dealer:
Hip-hop is 'complicated' in a musical sense because of the texture of many of the songs.

...and because many of the songs feature performances by people who can't hit the rhythm more than one time out of three.

It's hard for a good classically-trained musician to screw up as terribly as most modern pop stars and rappers..
 
2012-06-03 11:29:28 AM  

Kell Bartok: Yes, I agree with you completely. I guess what I had a problem with was those who can call 50cent more intelligent than the classical giants. Or for anyone that can write a song with more than 4 chords in it for that matter.


ExperianScaresCthulhu: Kell Bartok: "Too complicated or mismatched for classical"

Bullshiat. What the hell are they listening to? Josh Grobin? LOL! Take any 10 seconds of Bach or Stravinsky and it will shame any drum machine "artist".

/FAIL

I also call bullshiat, but not because it can't be done, or because it's simple to do. Any style of music can be re-arranged for a different style of music. Shiat, styles of music can be re-arranged into different sub-styles of the same genre. Remember that version of 'My Funny Valentine' Melinda Doolittle did during one of the American Idols years ago? It's not a straight version, it's the same song, but it's kinda gospel r&bish, and it sounds good. (I mean, it really, really sounds good.) (Where the hell is she at, now?)

For comparison: The blue-eyed british soul version, by Gordon Sumner and some white dude on trumpet (okay, it's some dude named Chris Botti), which is straighter. It also sounds good, just a different good from Melinda's version (and frankly, not as good, but that's a matter of what I like to hear, some folks will prefer Gordon's version over Melinda because it will be more pleasing to their ears, and that's alright).

My opinion, the secret is getting someone who can do the arranging. If the group can't do it themselves, just hire someone who can. It's a gift, and a talent, and it's okay not to do everything one's self.


50 cent doesn't write the songs himself. Other people are paid to do it for him. The guy who produced Fiona Apple's Extraordinary Machine wrote "In Da Club," for example.
 
2012-06-03 12:51:50 PM  

cirby: ...and because many of the songs feature performances by people who can't hit the rhythm more than one time out of three.


Because we all know that hip-hop isn't rhythmic.
 
2012-06-03 12:53:36 PM  

theflatline: urban.derelict: ExperianScaresCthulhu: I'd love to hear that version, especially if it were done sincerely instead of suburban bong-smoking smugly.

It was mislabeled years ago on the 'net before Youtube as by Weird Al, which it was not, it's by "The Gourds."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur1N3UyT1lE -->

/search utube for artist title, there are plenty, I only picked the 'official' which seems to be just a pic, no vid

Yep, that has been around for years, even on Jukeboxes. Lots of good use of ye old jews harp in that song.


All Y'all owe it to yourself to check out the gourds if you like their kind of music at all. I like their gin and juice cover but its not in my top twenty favorite songs of theirs. Great band, recorded or live.
 
2012-06-03 01:07:26 PM  
TheJoe03:
Because we all know that hip-hop isn't rhythmic.

It's rhythmic, it's just not always accurately rhythmic.

Some of the stuff I hear is just free verse with a backing track.
 
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