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(Mercury News)   Real-life Waterworld, colonizing the oceans to free human progress from the choking grasp of regulation. Wouldn't it be easier to just pay your taxes?   (mercurynews.com) divider line 33
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2012-06-02 05:01:59 PM
4 votes:

Aarontology: Yeah, but if they start weaponizing bees, we'll have to put a stop to it. We can't risk a weapon of mass buzzing to hit our shores!


Little known fact: the 2010 World Cup was a military test for the weaponization of bees under Project: Vuvuzela.
2012-06-02 04:51:29 PM
4 votes:
Sea men + Sea people + Sea cities = Sea-ciety.
2012-06-02 01:52:04 PM
3 votes:
"Blueseed expects its offshore seastead will bypass U.S. immigration and business restrictions to draw entrepreneurs from around the world allow Mexican pirates to work near Silicon Valley infiltrate and rob everyone on board."
2012-06-02 06:11:43 PM
2 votes:
www.joeydevilla.com
2012-06-02 06:02:43 PM
2 votes:
www.cargolaw.com

Say hello to Isaac, your bartender.
2012-06-02 05:26:00 PM
2 votes:
Hello, this is the US Coast Guard. You say you're in the floating city, the "independent" one? You say you're being boarded by pirates? Fine.
Will that be Visa, Mastercard, or American Express?
2012-06-02 05:15:01 PM
2 votes:

CrackpipeCardozo: The self-characterized bootstappy members of society vow to move to the middle of the ocean, where they will be in utter reliance on us bottom feeders to provide them with the raw materials, food sources and other necessities of modern life. Seems about right.


I'm wondering if they'll be so kind as to include telephone sanitizers with them when they go.
2012-06-02 05:01:43 PM
2 votes:
"Honey Timmy broke his arm playing with some kids and needs to get it looked at, what time does the medical boat swing round again?"

"Hm, looks like it's 3 days. Now Timmy I'd be happy to take you there in my boat but I'd have to charge you at least 3 ayns and you spent all of yours at the candy shop last weekend. I mean I can't just take you there because I'm your father and you 'need' it. You have to earn things in life."
2012-06-02 07:29:06 PM
1 votes:
And let's see, we have a group of cashed up billionaires, who made their fortune creating companies that sell services to a huge volume of middle class people or to other companies that do this. Their fortune came from the consumer demand of a huge body of people who have income they can use to buy their goods and services. The income of these people depends upon their ability to get and secure decent paying jobs. This relies on them having access to expensive education that most of them can't afford themselves, except perhaps through massive levels of debt, so is subsidised by the national economy though the mechanism of taxes paid to the government and public spending on educational services.

Now these guys want to move offshore to minimise their exposure to taxes and to give them the freedom of bringing in pre-trained labor from other countries.

So, in effect, they want to stop paying taxes, which are used to increase the educational standards and economic capacity of the Nation. And they want to bring in educated workers from other nations. And then they'll try to sell their goods and services back into the national economy.

This isn't 'Libertarianism'. This is a farking free ride.

And they know it.

And you guys are buying it.
2012-06-02 07:19:57 PM
1 votes:

MilesTeg: "I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers."


"Eww!" says the normal person, "It's sweat. But if, with this poetical allusion, you're referring to the income you made from living in a society with a good standard of living that we have all contributed, either directly through our taxes or indirectly through the fact that we conduct ourselves in a socially moral manner, then yes, you should pay your share of your income to the community of which you are a part. And if your income is very high, then you have benefited greatly from living in our community, so you should pay a higher share."
2012-06-02 06:50:36 PM
1 votes:
I think the appropriate Bioshock quote is:

It was not impossible to build Rapture at the bottom of the sea. It was impossible to build it anywhere else.
--Andrew Ryan
2012-06-02 06:08:08 PM
1 votes:
"I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers."
2012-06-02 05:58:22 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: LeroyBourne: I'd feel safer in one of those at the bottom of the ocean. Any storm would seriously fark it up, not to mention pirates, or a passing cruise ship that plows into it.

Except for the crushing pressures and complete lack of light or oxygen. With space you only have to worry about one of those.


"Good Lord! That's over 5000 atmospheres of pressure!"

"How many atmospheres can the ship withstand?"

"Well, it was built for space travel, so anywhere between zero and one."
2012-06-02 05:33:02 PM
1 votes:

davidphogan: You'd want to make sure you have some surface presence because at 30 feet you could get hit by a lot of ships.


Or depth charges.
2012-06-02 05:26:18 PM
1 votes:

falcon176: spend 200 million to avoid paying 30 million in taxes


y'know...the easiest solution to all the world's problems is to simply push the reset button. think about it - if you are the 1%, the best move for you is to wipe out 90% or so of the world population. some sort of engineered plague or whatnot. you want the world to return to something similar to what europe looked like in the wake of the Black Death.

then you and your army of immunized goons and thugs could move in, 'save' the survivors and easily enslave them. you could build just about any type of society you wanted. you'd have plenty of room to expand. debts would be wiped out. no more taxes. A fresh start, if you will.
2012-06-02 05:23:46 PM
1 votes:

PacManDreaming: LeroyBourne: I'd feel safer in one of those at the bottom of the ocean. Any storm would seriously fark it up, not to mention pirates, or a passing cruise ship that plows into it.

Or the Chinese "accidentally" test out a new anti-ship missile on it.


Couldn't they accidentally test it on the support beams regardless?
2012-06-02 05:19:35 PM
1 votes:

redsquid: I've done some preliminary checking and you can buy retired floatels, which are floating towns on barges, at surprisingly low prices. These are used to house workers and they have dorms, private cabins, theaters, rec areas, infirmaries, surgeries, cafeterias, etc. Everything you need for a small community. A group of like-minded people could easily buy a barge with a kickstarter -like program. It sounds great but while you're planning your vegan, open love, ocean going meditation retreat some one else is planning a racist dreamboat or a floating sweatshop to side step safety standards. It will be interesting to see it develope.


once you're done with the slum barges, you uncouple them and let them find their own way.

duh.
2012-06-02 05:19:06 PM
1 votes:
encrypted-tbn3.google.com
2012-06-02 05:13:43 PM
1 votes:

LeroyBourne: I'd feel safer in one of those at the bottom of the ocean. Any storm would seriously fark it up, not to mention pirates, or a passing cruise ship that plows into it.


Except for the crushing pressures and complete lack of light or oxygen. With space you only have to worry about one of those.

I keep mentioning space because a certain immortality nut will soon find this thread and start frothing about nutters and I want him to feel welcome.
2012-06-02 05:13:01 PM
1 votes:

Shostie: Aarontology: So they want all the benefits and privileges of the United States without the obligations and duties.

How bootstrappy of them. If they were serious, they would move completely outside of US territorial waters and take their chances.

You mock, but this is all just bringing us baby steps closer to a real-life version of BioShock.


I have a great idea; let's build a large, underwater city. Then let's stock that city with lots of guns and explosives. Then we'll give people a highly addictive substance. Everyone will be so happy; that they'll work 24 hours a day. And no one will run out of money and start killing people for more of the highly addictive substance; I promise.

- my name is Andrew Ryan
2012-06-02 05:09:27 PM
1 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: jaylectricity: How about that? Would that be fine with you?

Oh god, yes. Mistress.


Here's your turtle shell. Make sure you only spill your seed on its exterior.
2012-06-02 05:04:02 PM
1 votes:
Some idiot has been doing this since 1967.

Principality of Sealand

/they even had their own "revolution", government-in-exile, and fake passport scandal
2012-06-02 05:03:48 PM
1 votes:

Tommy Moo: You're still going to have to pay taxes on anything you earn, buy, or sell in the United States, retards. Also, just wait until you see how much more efficient having a unified, central police force is than having to each hire your own personal security staff.


If I had a security staff, I would send them out to terrorize other people's security staffs.
2012-06-02 05:02:37 PM
1 votes:
Pod 6 is jerks.
2012-06-02 04:53:37 PM
1 votes:

jaylectricity: How about that? Would that be fine with you?


Oh god, yes. Mistress.
2012-06-02 03:13:17 PM
1 votes:
So my darling and I make love in the sand
To salute the last moment ever on dry land
Our machine it has done it's work played it's part well
Without a scratch on our body when we bid it farewell
Starfish and giant foams greet us with a smile
2012-06-02 01:16:24 PM
1 votes:
Ignore the lessons of The Spy Who Loved Me at your peril,dreamers!
2012-06-02 10:07:56 AM
1 votes:

Shostie: Seriously, dude. Why do you even think we HAVE Nic Cage in the first place?


I figured it was his treasure hunts contributing 12% of the GDP.
2012-06-02 09:53:26 AM
1 votes:

Aarontology: Shostie: You mock, but this is all just bringing us baby steps closer to a real-life version of BioShock.

Yeah, but if they start weaponizing bees, we'll have to put a stop to it. We can't risk a weapon of mass buzzing to hit our shores!


Seriously, dude. Why do you even think we HAVE Nic Cage in the first place?
2012-06-02 09:51:16 AM
1 votes:

Shostie: You mock, but this is all just bringing us baby steps closer to a real-life version of BioShock.


Yeah, but if they start weaponizing bees, we'll have to put a stop to it. We can't risk a weapon of mass buzzing to hit our shores!
2012-06-02 09:48:14 AM
1 votes:
Colonizing the ocean is pretty cool, so I'm quite happy to see billionaires wasting their money thinking they'll have their Randian utopia.
2012-06-02 09:47:50 AM
1 votes:

Aarontology: So they want all the benefits and privileges of the United States without the obligations and duties.

How bootstrappy of them. If they were serious, they would move completely outside of US territorial waters and take their chances.


You mock, but this is all just bringing us baby steps closer to a real-life version of BioShock.
2012-06-02 09:24:04 AM
1 votes:
So they want all the benefits and privileges of the United States without the obligations and duties.

How bootstrappy of them. If they were serious, they would move completely outside of US territorial waters and take their chances.
 
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