Sounds like the owner really wants to move the team again, and needs to destroy all that inconvenient goodwill that's been built up with the fanbase over the last 5 years or so

Looks like the Hornets are in good hands.

Lost Thought 00: Sounds like the owner really wants to move the team again, and needs to destroy all that inconvenient goodwill that's been built up with the fanbase over the last 5 years or so

Seems unlikely, considering Benson is about ready to buy the Hornets as well. But you know, anytime you can piss off your Top 5 QB for completely petty and arbitrary reasons, you have to do it.

Clearly Joe didn't see Drew's rendition of the Purdue fight song on Leno, lol.

182: the way they are handling this....this will not end well for the saints.

This is a repeat of every season in Ain'ts history

Calm down Falcons fans. Drew Brees aint going anywhere yet. You are still stuck with Melty Ice leading your team and Michael Vick leading the love in your hearts.

182: Sargun: 182: the way they are handling this....this will not end well for the saints.

yeah this joke is ruinous to the organization

it's not so much what brees said, it's what he's had to respond to. the saints are willing to throw away a season they think is already shot to lowball brees. brees deserves better from them and he knows it. i wouldn't be surprised if he decided to hold out and the saints said "oh, well...our season was lost anyway"....then brees says, "see ya" when his contract is up.

That would be incredibly dumb. First, the Saints fans would revolt. Season ticket sales would plummet. No one is paying to see Chase Daniels. Realistically, if the Saints did want to part ways after this year, they could hit him with another franchise tag, and let him negotiate with another team, get a right to match the offer, and if they declined, the team that signed him would have to give the Saints compensation in the form of draft picks. The CBA allows a team to use the franchise tag on a player three times. There is speculation that Brees and Condon are arguing that a player can be hit with the tag only three times no matter how many teams, which would make this the second time he's been hit with the tag, and if he signed, the difference in his salary between a first tag and a second tag would be about $3 million. As for "lowballing," the Saints offered Brees a contract before last season that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL. The argument is about how the contract will be structured. If he truly believes he should be paid $19 million next year as opposed to $16 million if he signs the franchise tag, then that explains the supposed "huge difference" because a base salary of, say, $20 million would only be $1 million above his franchise tag rather than $4 million above. I looked up the CBA and read these provisions, and I think Brees/Condon's interpretation of the franchise tag rules is somewhat, um, creative.

steamingpile: Either way this is how the saints usually act, its why it took someone with Brees positive attitude to turn it around, one player can save a team and franchise.

I think it was more his skills than his smile, but hey, that's still a compliment. Cool.

Just to put things in perspective, Brees is being offered an annual salary approaching the salary of every CFL team in the league combined.

unyon: Just to put things in perspective, Brees is being offered an annual salary approaching the salary of every CFL team in the league combined.



Dougie AXP: I could see many teams welcoming him, as much as I hate to say it, I could see Jerry Jones telling Romo to GTFO if Brees was available.

Jerry Jones should tell Romo to GTFO if Brees was available. He should tell Garrett to also GTFO if Payton happened to be available at the same time.

Dougie AXP: What I meant by "hate to say it" is because I'm an Eagles fan and Brees on the Cowboys would scare the ever loving hell out of me during football season

Ah, I got you.

Shoop008: Nabb1: f he truly believes he should be paid $19 million next year as opposed to $16 million if he signs the franchise tag, then that explains the supposed "huge difference" because a base salary of, say, $20 million would only be $1 million above his franchise tag rather than $4 million above. I looked up the CBA and read these provisions, and I think Brees/Condon's interpretation of the franchise tag rules is somewhat, um, creative.

This has nothing to do with how much the franchise tag will pay for one year. Last time he played under the franchise tag he got injured and was told he probably would never play football again. He wants guaranteed money of a certain amount. I'm sure they are not arguing about his yearly salary.

No, this isn't really about his yearly salary as much as it is about how much is up front, how much is guaranteed, etc. The Saints want to minimize the salary cap implications and not end up with a ton of money owed if he ends up with a career-threatening injury like Payton Manning. Drew Brees wants as much money up front in case he ends up with career-threatening injury.

steamingpile: Nabb1: Shoop008: Nabb1: f he truly believes he should be paid $19 million next year as opposed to $16 million if he signs the franchise tag, then that explains the supposed "huge difference" because a base salary of, say, $20 million would only be $1 million above his franchise tag rather than $4 million above. I looked up the CBA and read these provisions, and I think Brees/Condon's interpretation of the franchise tag rules is somewhat, um, creative.

This has nothing to do with how much the franchise tag will pay for one year. Last time he played under the franchise tag he got injured and was told he probably would never play football again. He wants guaranteed money of a certain amount. I'm sure they are not arguing about his yearly salary.

No, this isn't really about his yearly salary as much as it is about how much is up front, how much is guaranteed, etc. The Saints want to minimize the salary cap implications and not end up with a ton of money owed if he ends up with a career-threatening injury like Payton Manning. Drew Brees wants as much money up front in case he ends up with career-threatening injury.

After what he's done for them I fail to see why this is a problem, they got a good deal the last time so he should be rewarded a little.

I think making him the highest paid player in the NFL fits the description of "being rewarded a little."

He probably wants in the range of 20-24 mil per year, because that's his worth.

He hopefully also realizes playing for the Saints this year is basically asking to be injured. If he's smart he'll never suit up in that uniform again and just sit out a year and kiss them goodbye.

steamingpile: 10up: The contact he was offered already would have made him the highest paid player. He wants something else. Like a percentage of the franchise or something. Watch

As always the sticking point is guaranteed money, anyone could sign a contract averaging the highest paid player over the life of the contract. That doesn't mean they will ever see anything close to that per year.

Yeah, especially over the life of the, probably 5-6 year contract he's going to want at least 15 mil per year guaranteed.

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