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(Sydney Morning Herald)   New cannabis plant, without the high, developed for people who want to use medical marijuana and not get stoned. Next up: Viagra that makes you just want to be friends   (smh.com.au) divider line 81
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2012-06-02 08:50:32 AM  
i372.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-02 08:51:00 AM  
You still won't be able to grow it, because it LOOKS like a regular pot plant, and therefore you could hide regular plants in the garden.
 
2012-06-02 08:52:32 AM  
Still banned?
Still banned.

/Banning plants from growing. What a wondrous concept of modern government.
 
2012-06-02 08:57:20 AM  
Next up: Cocaine PM

For when you want to party, but have work the next day.
 
2012-06-02 08:58:16 AM  
As a medical marijuana patient, I hope this remains banned. Let's not give the Michigan government tards any ideas.
 
2012-06-02 08:59:20 AM  

ghare: You still won't be able to grow it, because it LOOKS like a regular pot plant, and therefore you could hide regular plants in the garden.


So you're saying you could put your weed in there?
i51.photobucket.com
 
2012-06-02 09:01:23 AM  
Inhibited THC, increased CBD. Sounds like a good product for psych treatments, you'll get the calming without the potential psychotic effects.

IIRC the painkiller aspect is actually THC-related, though, so that makes it less useful for some of the other medical applications.
 
2012-06-02 09:08:50 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: As a medical marijuana patient, I hope this remains banned. Let's not give the Michigan government tards any ideas.


why? sounds like a good idea as it gives the medical marijuana patients the right type of treatment.
 
2012-06-02 09:18:26 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Inhibited THC, increased CBD. Sounds like a good product for psych treatments, you'll get the calming without the potential psychotic effects.

IIRC the painkiller aspect is actually THC-related, though, so that makes it less useful for some of the other medical applications.


I would imagine they could go the other way with that and develop a plant with lower CBD and higher THC. It would make sense to get the right medications to the right people.
 
2012-06-02 09:20:07 AM  
"Not only does it leave users stone-cold sober, it also doesn't induce the munchies, the hunger pangs that the drug's smokers generally suffer."

I thought inducing the munchies was one of the major reasons cancer patients smoked marijuana.
 
2012-06-02 09:23:45 AM  

NewWorldDan: "Not only does it leave users stone-cold sober, it also doesn't induce the munchies, the hunger pangs that the drug's smokers generally suffer."

I thought inducing the munchies was one of the major reasons cancer patients smoked marijuana.


The International Cheese Puff Cartel frowns on these shenanigans.
 
2012-06-02 09:24:51 AM  

bighairyguy: NewWorldDan: "Not only does it leave users stone-cold sober, it also doesn't induce the munchies, the hunger pangs that the drug's smokers generally suffer."

I thought inducing the munchies was one of the major reasons cancer patients smoked marijuana.

The International Cheese Puff Cartel frowns on these shenanigans.


Big Dorito will probably have something to say about it too.
 
2012-06-02 09:29:45 AM  

nekom: Jim_Callahan: Inhibited THC, increased CBD. Sounds like a good product for psych treatments, you'll get the calming without the potential psychotic effects.

IIRC the painkiller aspect is actually THC-related, though, so that makes it less useful for some of the other medical applications.

I would imagine they could go the other way with that and develop a plant with lower CBD and higher THC. It would make sense to get the right medications to the right people.


The article's a bit short on technical details, but it sounds like they're using either a chemical inhibitor, in which case they can't really take this research and reverse it that easily, or a genetic manipulation, in which case they probably can (finding the gene in question and designing a splice is most of the work, changing what you're splicing in isn't hard).

But yeah, in principle that kind of control seems to be what they're going for. Marijuana's medical applications are mostly limited by the fact that you currently have to consume the whole plant to get the medical benefits, and there are enough active substances that the side effects are... substantial. Believe it or not, a painkiller that also renders you mentally incompetent to drive is not considered ideal, heh. That's why a doctor will tell you to grab some aspirin and see if that works for your headaches first instead of breaking out the heavy tranquilizers immediately. A more specific version of marijuana would actually be really handy.
 
2012-06-02 09:32:52 AM  

NewWorldDan: "Not only does it leave users stone-cold sober, it also doesn't induce the munchies, the hunger pangs that the drug's smokers generally suffer."

I thought inducing the munchies was one of the major reasons cancer patients smoked marijuana.


Precisely. While this formulation might help destroy the cancer cells in their body, the most immediate draw is gone. To wit, the 'numbness' and 'hunger pangs' alleviate the worst side effects of chemo - extreme nausea and lack of appetite. Constant puking and no nutrition makes it harder for the body to deal with cancer, you know.

This is all just a push by the big pharmaceuticals and the government to prevent the legalization of marijuana while producing something the big companies can charge an arm and a leg for. They can't well patent a plant.
 
2012-06-02 09:54:02 AM  

ghare: You still won't be able to grow it, because it LOOKS like a regular pot plant, and therefore you could hide regular plants in the garden.


I read your post and almost dropped my Cheetos. Imagine a pot plant that DOESN'T look like one...
 
2012-06-02 09:54:39 AM  
so it's Hemp?

Now to read the story
 
2012-06-02 09:56:00 AM  

way south: Still banned?
Still banned.

/Banning plants from growing. What a wondrous concept of modern government.


Just don't let them find out that smoking banana peels gets you high.
 
2012-06-02 10:10:48 AM  

BayouOtter: They can't well patent a plant.


Reached for comment, Monstanto was quoted as saying "Challenge Accepted"
 
2012-06-02 10:20:17 AM  
That's beautiful, subby. Bravo!
 
2012-06-02 10:33:09 AM  

Jim_Callahan: But yeah, in principle that kind of control seems to be what they're going for. Marijuana's medical applications are mostly limited by the fact that you currently have to consume the whole plant to get the medical benefits, and there are enough active substances that the side effects are... substantial. Believe it or not, a painkiller that also renders you mentally incompetent to drive is not considered ideal, heh. That's why a doctor will tell you to grab some aspirin and see if that works for your headaches first instead of breaking out the heavy tranquilizers immediately. A more specific version of marijuana would actually be really handy.


Absolutely. Marijuana does a LOT of things and has quite a few psychoactive chemicals. If you could, for instance get only the pain killing component to the patient in pain without the mind clouding effects that make it difficult to function, that would be very handy indeed. On the other hand, they could always just synthesize whatever chemical they want and put it into pill form, eliminating the need to smoke which is most certainly the most unhealthy component of marijuana usage. That is, unless some of the chemicals are not active orally, which may or may not be true, I don't know.
 
2012-06-02 10:43:37 AM  

a9735z: BayouOtter: They can't well patent a plant.

Reached for comment, Monstanto was quoted as saying "Challenge Accepted"


They can patent the process to modify it, the nature of the modification, any special methods needed to grow it, and so on. Be thankful it's a patent (about two decades from public domain) and not a copyright of the modified genome (70 years) or a trade secret (if they are careful, never in the public domain, like the formula for Coke).

Trust me, if it wasn't patented, it would be made a trade secret. Or never pursued at all.
 
2012-06-02 10:53:55 AM  
www.carolinegear.com
 
2012-06-02 10:55:56 AM  
O'dweeds is real now?!?!?! Link
 
2012-06-02 11:20:53 AM  
It's like decaf coffee, right?
 
2012-06-02 11:43:06 AM  
Sounds like one of the biggest "bluff" calls in history. "Really, man. I need it for medical reasons."
 
2012-06-02 11:45:47 AM  

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: ghare: You still won't be able to grow it, because it LOOKS like a regular pot plant, and therefore you could hide regular plants in the garden.

I read your post and almost dropped my Cheetos. Imagine a pot plant that DOESN'T look like one...


Dude....here me out....
www.theweedblog.com
 
2012-06-02 12:01:26 PM  
Or you lightweights could just handle your shiat.
 
2012-06-02 12:24:04 PM  
I'd use it. I hate the feeling of being high. It makes me feel dumb, but I love the smell and the taste of it.
 
2012-06-02 12:27:30 PM  
I bet the Jews did this.
 
2012-06-02 12:53:40 PM  
FTA: "It has the same scent, shape and taste as the original plant - it's all the same - but the numbing sensation that users are accustomed to has disappeared," said Tzahi Klein, head of development at Tikkun Olam, the firm that developed the species.

I'm rather dubious about that, considering the wide range of different scents and flavors that different strains can produce. That's like saying that no matter what kind of beer you enjoy, O'Doul's would be a totally suitable substitute as far as flavor because "it tastes like beer".
 
2012-06-02 12:53:56 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Inhibited THC, increased CBD. Sounds like a good product for psych treatments, you'll get the calming without the potential psychotic effects.

IIRC the painkiller aspect is actually THC-related, though, so that makes it less useful for some of the other medical applications.


As someone who got my card to treat insomnia, this actually has some appeal to me...
 
2012-06-02 12:56:39 PM  

lewismarktwo: Or you lightweights could just handle your shiat.


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2012-06-02 01:03:38 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Barricaded Gunman: As a medical marijuana patient, I hope this remains banned. Let's not give the Michigan government tards any ideas.

why? sounds like a good idea as it gives the medical marijuana patients the right type of treatment.


Not when THC is the primary ingredient that treats most prescribed ills (anxiety, insomnia, pain, depression, etc). As the article states, the only preserved substance in the altered plant is CBC and has zero therapeutic effect and much more narrow scope of utility (diabetics make up only a small portion of medimar patients).

The article fails to describe how this is in any way a positive development for those patients who require THC to be effective for their particular issue.
 
2012-06-02 01:34:02 PM  

loonatic112358: so it's Hemp?

Now to read the story


Came here to say this.

/I'm not saying it's hemp, but it's hemp.
 
2012-06-02 02:01:04 PM  
This is sure to go over big with the "I read Playboy just for the articles" crowd.
 
2012-06-02 02:16:30 PM  
Actually what have been waiting for. Because the THC does a lot of damage to veins and arteries.
 
2012-06-02 02:26:16 PM  

Cup_O_Jo: Actually what have been waiting for. Because the THC does a lot of damage to veins and arteries.


Citation?
 
2012-06-02 02:32:34 PM  
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2012-06-02 02:49:22 PM  
Viagra that makes you just want to be friends

Platonix ™
 
2012-06-02 03:00:35 PM  
" Next up: Viagra that makes you just want to be friends"

Also known as "being unattractive".

/personal experience
 
2012-06-02 03:01:50 PM  

improvius: Viagra that makes you just want to be friends

Platonix ™


+1
 
2012-06-02 03:08:49 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Marijuana's medical applications are mostly limited by the fact that you currently have to consume the whole plant to get the medical benefit


Has the FDA validated these medical benefits?

Oh wait, they didn't

It is all just a farce.
 
2012-06-02 03:12:52 PM  
GW Pharma did this years ago:

http://www.gwpharm.com/Cultivation.aspx

Why is this all of a sudden a major breakthrough?
 
2012-06-02 03:39:52 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Jim_Callahan: Marijuana's medical applications are mostly limited by the fact that you currently have to consume the whole plant to get the medical benefit

Has the FDA validated these medical benefits?

Oh wait, they didn't

It is all just a farce.


I thought you were just an old bigot? Why in the hell would you hate terminally-ill patients?

Jesus, you really are a sick fark.
 
2012-06-02 03:57:04 PM  
FTFA: The Food and Drug Administration said Thursday that "no sound scientific studies" supported the medical use of marijuana... Thursday's statement resulted from a past combined review by federal drug enforcement, regulatory and research agencies that concluded "smoked marijuana has no currently accepted or proven medical use in the United States and is not an approved medical treatment."

FTFA: The Food and Drug Administration statement directly contradicts a 1999 review by the Institute of Medicine, a part of the National Academy of Sciences, the nation's most prestigious scientific advisory agency. That review found marijuana to be "moderately well suited for particular conditions, such as chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting and AIDS wasting."


So pay no attention to "the nation's most prestigious scientific advisory agency" and their study that says marijuana has some medical value... because "federal drug enforcement, regulatory and research agencies" (whose funding and livelihoods depend on keeping it illegal) say that it doesn't. Why do we have drug cops and bureaucrats chiming in on marijuana's medical value, anyway? Isn't their primary function to enforce laws?
 
2012-06-02 04:08:14 PM  

Jesus Farking Christ: tenpoundsofcheese: Jim_Callahan: Marijuana's medical applications are mostly limited by the fact that you currently have to consume the whole plant to get the medical benefit

Has the FDA validated these medical benefits?

Oh wait, they didn't

It is all just a farce.

I thought you were just an old bigot? Why in the hell would you hate terminally-ill patients?

.


Lame double straw man.

People claim "medical benefits" but the FDA said there are none.

Selling people snake oil and hope with these "medical benefits" claim is unethical and wrong.
 
2012-06-02 05:07:08 PM  
Take the venom from a snake all you have left is a belt!

/giggidy!
 
2012-06-02 05:14:08 PM  

nekom: I would imagine they could go the other way with that and develop a plant with lower CBD and higher THC. It would make sense to get the right medications to the right people.


Weed growers have been increasing THC levels via selective breeding for 20+ years now. A modern strain can have up to 35% THC.

We used to think that THC was the only active ingredient in weed. Now we know there are some 60+ compounds that are involved.

CBD's are a new thing people are interested in, mostly because people who take large amounts of THC without much CBD end up getting paranoid.

Stripping out the THC would make cannabis useless for pain management, and probably has detrimental effects on the ability of CBD to do it's job..
 
2012-06-02 05:30:09 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Jesus Farking Christ: tenpoundsofcheese: Jim_Callahan: Marijuana's medical applications are mostly limited by the fact that you currently have to consume the whole plant to get the medical benefit

Has the FDA validated these medical benefits?

Oh wait, they didn't

It is all just a farce.

I thought you were just an old bigot? Why in the hell would you hate terminally-ill patients?

.

Lame double straw man.

People claim "medical benefits" but the FDA said there are none.

Selling people snake oil and hope with these "medical benefits" claim is unethical and wrong.


Sigh... yeah ok, I'm bored.. So the FDA is the only authority that gets to determine what has medicinal value?
 
2012-06-02 05:53:12 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: J
Lame double straw man.

People claim "medical benefits" but the FDA said there are none.

Selling people snake oil and hope with these "medical benefits" claim is unethical and wrong.


Well, I guess the American Medical Association is a bunch of snake oil salesmen, because they recognize the medical benefits of it.

But what do a bunch of doctors know about medicine, anyway?
 
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