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2012-06-02 09:12:58 AM  
 
2012-06-02 09:15:24 AM  
thechive.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-06-02 09:17:04 AM  
 
2012-06-02 09:32:30 AM  

johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better

Dang it! :

"This video contains content from NBC Universal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
Sorry about that."
 
2012-06-02 09:33:54 AM  
And yet, almost every show never goes for 2 seconds without switching cameras.

And people wonder why ADD is so widespread
 
2012-06-02 10:12:31 AM  

johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better

This video contains content from NBC Universal, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.


FAIL
 
2012-06-02 10:29:11 AM  
onlinedating.russianlovematch.com
 
2012-06-02 10:31:07 AM  
 
2012-06-02 10:33:18 AM  
Better camera shot.

Fixed Camera, ~10+ minutes of dialogue. One shot.
 
2012-06-02 11:14:00 AM  

calbert: oops, meant to add:

It was filmed entirely in the Winter Palace of the Russian State Hermitage Museum using a single 96-minute Steadicam sequence shot


How about that x 4?
upload.wikimedia.org
/hot
//Russian Ark is a better movie, though
 
2012-06-02 11:26:03 AM  

johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better


They also aren't real. Lots of cuts and digitally stitched together.

Still awesome though.
 
2012-06-02 12:17:46 PM  

lucksi: And yet, almost every show never goes for 2 seconds without switching cameras.

And people wonder why ADD is so widespread


tl;dr

/sorry, shiny thing
 
2012-06-02 12:26:06 PM  
I heard a long time ago that the Coen brothers wanted a Stedicam shot in 'Blood Simple' but couldn't afford it at that time (I think their first use of the real thing was the early crane-over shot in 'Raising Arizona'), so they developed their own device to accomplish the same thing, using the somewhat counterintuitive principle of motion phase cancelling: The camera was suspended from the centre of a floppy board or strut, and two operators would *run* with it from the ends. The ends would flop around like crazy from the running, but the motion would cancel itself by the time it reached the middle, due to the extreme flexibility of the supporting device. The supposedly dubbed it 'Shakicam'. (Not to be confused with "shakycam," the nausea-inducing film technique popularised by J.J. Abrams and his ilk that won't seem to go away.)

I don't seem to be finding anything about that online, though. (Never bothered to research it before, I admit.) There apparently is something called 'Shakicam,' but it's just a budget DIY version of Stedicam, based on the came principles. Or maybe that is the same thing, and it's not what I'd heard it was.

Anyone know?
 
2012-06-02 12:34:43 PM  
The most interesting thing in that clip was how stage hands moved walls and furniture out of the way to allow the camera to pass and then immediately replaced them. I don't know why that never occurred to me, but I'm going to look for it when watching films now.
 
2012-06-02 12:36:42 PM  
I like how the wall moved to accommodate the camera movement around the girl in the corner.

As far as long shots go, I like the one from the opening credits of Serenity. It covers the entire ship, introduces every character, and includes a lot of not-insignificant dialogue. It can't have been easy.
 
2012-06-02 12:58:31 PM  

T.M.S.: They also aren't real. Lots of cuts and digitally stitched together.

Still awesome though.


Yeah, kind of a bummer how they mislead everyone early on. Also, although I thought it was a great movie, those shots were so amazing they actually took me out of the film, just at points where the action should have been completely consuming. So not sure it was ideal from a filmmaking perspective.

calbert: oops, meant to add:


Technically impressive, but holy crap I wanted to die before that movie finally mercifully ended. It felt longer than a Tartovsky film somehow.
 
2012-06-02 02:05:10 PM  

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I heard a long time ago that the Coen brothers wanted a Stedicam shot in 'Blood Simple' but couldn't afford it at that time (I think their first use of the real thing was the early crane-over shot in 'Raising Arizona'), so they developed their own device to accomplish the same thing, using the somewhat counterintuitive principle of motion phase cancelling: The camera was suspended from the centre of a floppy board or strut, and two operators would *run* with it from the ends. The ends would flop around like crazy from the running, but the motion would cancel itself by the time it reached the middle, due to the extreme flexibility of the supporting device. The supposedly dubbed it 'Shakicam'. (Not to be confused with "shakycam," the nausea-inducing film technique popularised by J.J. Abrams and his ilk that won't seem to go away.)

I don't seem to be finding anything about that online, though. (Never bothered to research it before, I admit.) There apparently is something called 'Shakicam,' but it's just a budget DIY version of Stedicam, based on the came principles. Or maybe that is the same thing, and it's not what I'd heard it was.

Anyone know?


Hmm, I've heard something similar, but it was about the stedicam-looking shots in The Evil Dead.
 
2012-06-02 02:10:55 PM  
I agree lying about this sort of thing is pointless.

It's the same bullshiat Danny Boyle pulled with 28 Days Later. (all the crap about the non CGI ways they "evacuated" London. Lies.

Both movies are still cool. But lying helps no one.
 
2012-06-02 02:20:04 PM  

johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better


Which one did you link? I find the car sequence more impressive than the combat sequence in the prison later in the film, though both are fantastic (and would be even more fantastic if they were done legit).

My favorite legitimate long take is the amazing crane shot that opens Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Masterful stuff.
 
2012-06-02 03:41:03 PM  
I found that really interesting to watch but one thing really frustrated me. I really wanted to see some sort of establishing shot, either at the beginning or the end, to show just what the camera was mounted on. Was it being carried the whole time? Was it on a wheel base? How many people were operating it? All we could see was the very front part of the camera and I'd have liked to see more.

If anyone actually does have any information as to how the camera was being moved/operated I'd be interested to see it.
 
2012-06-02 04:06:49 PM  
Neat seeing how the 'off camera' people moved stuff and what not. But a question for those in the know:

The actors are talking, music is playing..and the stagehands/camera men are talking as well (the loud 'NOW'). How does that all work soundwise for the film? Do they redub lines or filter the other stuff out?

/always been curious about that
 
2012-06-02 06:04:56 PM  

The sound of one hand clapping: I found that really interesting to watch but one thing really frustrated me. I really wanted to see some sort of establishing shot, either at the beginning or the end, to show just what the camera was mounted on. Was it being carried the whole time? Was it on a wheel base? How many people were operating it? All
we could see was the very front part of the camera and I'd have liked to see more.

If anyone actually does have any information as to how the camera was being moved/operated I'd be interested to see it.


Steadicam.com
 
2012-06-02 06:18:43 PM  
I thought it was an interesting look behind the "magic" of making movies. The moving wall is such a simple thing, yet I know it is something that has perplexed me before - wondering how the camera seemed to have passed through a wall, etc.

Not sure why everyone is bringing up their favorite long shots, though.
 
2012-06-02 06:30:52 PM  

Mr_H: Neat seeing how the 'off camera' people moved stuff and what not. But a question for those in the know:

The actors are talking, music is playing..and the stagehands/camera men are talking as well (the loud 'NOW'). How does that all work soundwise for the film? Do they redub lines or filter the other stuff out?

/always been curious about that


ADR and Foley artists.

If you look at the guy 'playing' the guitar, you'll notice that he's not really playing. Sounds are edited, cut and added in post production.

/Just did ADR work for Cloud Atlas.
 
2012-06-02 06:50:31 PM  

shoegaze99: johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better

Which one did you link? I find the car sequence more impressive than the combat sequence in the prison later in the film, though both are fantastic (and would be even more fantastic if they were done legit).

My favorite legitimate long take is the amazing crane shot that opens Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Masterful stuff.


Of course it was amazing, but pandering, with crane technique, if do right, no can defense.
 
2012-06-02 07:05:20 PM  
I've always enjoyed the long Steadicam shot from The Protector. Not that's it's timeless art, but because it would have been wicked hard to set up and execute.
 
2012-06-02 07:47:18 PM  
Steadicam, another great piece of technology from the 1970's.

Exactly why is this exciting?
 
2012-06-02 08:38:48 PM  
While not exactly steadycam, the pool party scene from Boogie Knights is a great long shot.
 
2012-06-02 10:47:23 PM  

tzzhc4: Steadicam, another great piece of technology from the 1970's.

Exactly why is this exciting?




Hey... Michael Bay is a farker!
 
2012-06-02 11:10:32 PM  

Tsar_Bomba1: tzzhc4: Steadicam, another great piece of technology from the 1970's.

Exactly why is this exciting?



Hey... Michael Bay is a farker!


Good, maybe he can blow himself up for us. I'd be pretty excited about that.
 
2012-06-02 11:26:54 PM  

RoyBatty: shoegaze99: johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better

Which one did you link? I find the car sequence more impressive than the combat sequence in the prison later in the film, though both are fantastic (and would be even more fantastic if they were done legit).

My favorite legitimate long take is the amazing crane shot that opens Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Masterful stuff.

Of course it was amazing, but pandering, with crane technique, if do right, no can defense.


What?
 
2012-06-02 11:35:06 PM  

RoyBatty: shoegaze99: johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better

Which one did you link? I find the car sequence more impressive than the combat sequence in the prison later in the film, though both are fantastic (and would be even more fantastic if they were done legit).

My favorite legitimate long take is the amazing crane shot that opens Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Masterful stuff.

Of course it was amazing, but pandering, with crane technique, if do right, no can defense.


I lolled.
 
2012-06-02 11:35:48 PM  

DrGunsforHands: RoyBatty: shoegaze99: johnnyboog: Children of Men's long shot is better

Which one did you link? I find the car sequence more impressive than the combat sequence in the prison later in the film, though both are fantastic (and would be even more fantastic if they were done legit).

My favorite legitimate long take is the amazing crane shot that opens Orson Welles' Touch of Evil. Masterful stuff.

Of course it was amazing, but pandering, with crane technique, if do right, no can defense.

What?


donthatethegeek.com

Now use head for something other than target.
 
2012-06-02 11:45:32 PM  
Atonement - 5 1/2 minutes

Link

Not on Youtube - this one is at vimeo.
 
2012-06-02 11:46:52 PM  
All this talk about long shots and no mention of the sex scene between Gena Gershon and Jennifer Tilly in Bound? (long shot starts at 0:28; NSFW)

/I'll be in my bunk
 
2012-06-02 11:51:07 PM  
For me, nothing will beat X-Files' Triangle in artistry of steadycam long shot work.
 
2012-06-03 12:02:14 AM  

Teufelaffe: All this talk about long shots and no mention of the sex scene between Gena Gershon and Jennifer Tilly in Bound? (long shot starts at 0:28; NSFW)

/I'll be in my bunk


Funny, it's the perfect fapping length.
 
2012-06-03 12:42:14 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I heard a long time ago that the Coen brothers wanted a Stedicam shot in 'Blood Simple' but couldn't afford it at that time (I think their first use of the real thing was the early crane-over shot in 'Raising Arizona'), so they developed their own device to accomplish the same thing, using the somewhat counterintuitive principle of motion phase cancelling: The camera was suspended from the centre of a floppy board or strut, and two operators would *run* with it from the ends. The ends would flop around like crazy from the running, but the motion would cancel itself by the time it reached the middle, due to the extreme flexibility of the supporting device. The supposedly dubbed it 'Shakicam'. (Not to be confused with "shakycam," the nausea-inducing film technique popularised by J.J. Abrams and his ilk that won't seem to go away.)

I don't seem to be finding anything about that online, though. (Never bothered to research it before, I admit.) There apparently is something called 'Shakicam,' but it's just a budget DIY version of Stedicam, based on the came principles. Or maybe that is the same thing, and it's not what I'd heard it was.

Anyone know?

Hmm, I've heard something similar, but it was about the stedicam-looking shots in The Evil Dead.


yep, in the Evil dead, they flying through the woods shots were made by attaching the camera to the center of a long wooden board, and the operators ran through the woods with it.
 
2012-06-03 12:44:06 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: yep, in the Evil dead, they flying through the woods shots were made by attaching the camera to the center of a long wooden board, and the operators ran through the woods with it.


And it was AWESOME!
 
2012-06-03 03:09:41 AM  

Cerebral Knievel: yep, in the Evil dead, they flying through the woods shots were made by attaching the camera to the center of a long wooden board, and the operators ran through the woods with it.


Not surprising seeing as how the Coens were involved with Evil Dead.

Also, I've always been a fan of these two shots from "Soy Cuba (I Am Cuba)"

5 minute opening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOLVm_9UcRw

Funeral: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFXv6bDIY8

But as it was said earlier, Touch of Evil is still probably the best of the bunch, however it's nice to see it still being used.
 
2012-06-03 04:19:31 AM  
Children of Men - not steadicam

Doggicam XY dolly
 
2012-06-03 09:40:45 AM  

Thunderboy: Not sure why everyone is bringing up their favorite long shots, though.


Because the original post is an example of a well-executed long take.
 
2012-06-03 10:17:10 AM  
The Player opening scene. 8 minutes, 1 shot.
Link
 
2012-06-03 06:27:53 PM  
One of the neatest steadicam shot sequences I've seen was from Donnie Darko. Not really long each, but neat.

Link
Low quality, sorry if there's better around
 
2012-06-03 07:35:05 PM  

shoegaze99: Thunderboy: Not sure why everyone is bringing up their favorite long shots, though.

Because the original post is an example of a well-executed long take.


Yes, but the original post is not concerned with the value of the take. It's just a look behind the scenes. If the headline were "BEST LONG SHOT EVAR", I could understand the rush to prove otherwise.

But then, this is Fark, so every topic must become a pissing contest.
 
2012-06-03 08:05:56 PM  

Thunderboy: shoegaze99: Thunderboy: Not sure why everyone is bringing up their favorite long shots, though.

Because the original post is an example of a well-executed long take.

Yes, but the original post is not concerned with the value of the take. It's just a look behind the scenes. If the headline were "BEST LONG SHOT EVAR", I could understand the rush to prove otherwise.

But then, this is Fark, so every topic must become a pissing contest.


If by "pissing contest" you mean "people sharing some interesting/cool long shots from various movies because, hey, there's been some great ones out there", then yes.
 
2012-06-03 10:13:20 PM  

Teufelaffe: If by "pissing contest" you mean "people sharing some interesting/cool long shots from various movies because, hey, there's been some great ones out there", then yes.


+1

Seriously, this is how discussion works among people with common interest, ideas and experienced are shared, maybe laughs are had, or new material to be appreciated is found, but really it's not all that complicated of a concept.
 
2012-06-03 10:35:28 PM  
I hate to rain on the parade, and to take nothing from the beauty of this shot, but I don't think it's a steadicam shot, you can see rails on the floor at the end of the shot.
 
2012-06-03 10:43:03 PM  

dohrk: I hate to rain on the parade, and to take nothing from the beauty of this shot, but I don't think it's a steadicam shot, you can see rails on the floor at the end of the shot.


I saw that too, but I think that the track was only off of the set. Didn't have the patience to watch twice and look for it though, as I only noticed it at the end.
 
2012-06-04 12:03:55 AM  

omeganuepsilon: dohrk: I hate to rain on the parade, and to take nothing from the beauty of this shot, but I don't think it's a steadicam shot, you can see rails on the floor at the end of the shot.

I saw that too, but I think that the track was only off of the set. Didn't have the patience to watch twice and look for it though, as I only noticed it at the end.


Yep, you are right, the tracks are there only into the doorway, I would assume to make the green screen stuff nice and even going into the shot.
I loved this movie, by the way.
 
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