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(My Fox Tampa Bay)   Veteran found buried in Florida National Cemetery without casket -- only a cardboard box. Florida Senators outraged   (myfoxtampabay.com) divider line 128
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2012-06-01 09:06:59 PM
Burying them in a cardboard box? So what, what is the difference?.

How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?
 
2012-06-01 09:16:57 PM
Couldn't technically happen in Massachusetts; AFAIK your burial site has to be lined in cement to keep your body from polluting the environment.

\and if that's not the textbook definition of stupid, don't know what is.
 
2012-06-01 09:31:43 PM

mr_a: Burying them in a cardboard box? So what, what is the difference?.

How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?


^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
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2012-06-01 09:35:16 PM

mr_a: How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?


Booya Mother F*cker!

Sadly, American conservatives only truly value our service members once they're dead.
 
2012-06-01 09:54:09 PM

mr_a: How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?


Oh come on now, that's just socialism.
 
2012-06-01 10:06:30 PM
I thought the Senators played in Ottawa and Florida was the Panthers.
 
2012-06-02 12:06:03 AM
As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?
 
2012-06-02 12:25:31 AM

AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?


I'm leaning that way also. There's very few cemeteries that'll go with you in stuff like that.

How about getting a thermal-deployerization plant to render you down to oils and sludge, then use the oil to light a lamp.
 
2012-06-02 12:26:48 AM

AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?


Yes.

I'd even prefer having my organs donated, if they are still good to go, then being ground up for fertilizer or dog food or whatever is most useful for others.

Once you're dead, you're dead.
 
2012-06-02 12:26:51 AM
I'd be more concerned about the shallow grave aspect than the container. How shallow was it if removing the headstone exposed the box?
 
2012-06-02 12:28:10 AM

FriarReb98: Couldn't technically happen in Massachusetts; AFAIK your burial site has to be lined in cement to keep your body from polluting the environment.

\and if that's not the textbook definition of stupid, don't know what is.


Anyone who knows what our bodies accumulate over the years would consider it smart.
 
2012-06-02 12:28:17 AM
So he was Blithery instead of Huntington. His house was still six feet long.

AirForceVet:

Perhaps you would like to be exposed in a Dakhma.
 
2012-06-02 12:28:42 AM

AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?


I would like to be cremated, but have my ashes put in a charcoal grill and let me flavor a bbq in my honor
 
2012-06-02 12:29:47 AM
I'm actually ok with this. It seems ridiculous to spend all that money on a farking coffin. Actually you could just put me in a big sack and chuck me in the hole, except it might upset the family.

How about reusable coffin outer shells with cardboard/foofoo liners? Then once the family's gone, you drop the cardboard box in the hole and spiff the shell up for the next guy.
 
2012-06-02 12:30:13 AM

AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?


This is where I have been since my early 20's.
I have always told my wife that when I die I want her to buy a new state of the art fridge and bury me in the box.
Why spend thousands and thousands of dollars to put my lifeless corpse in the ground to rot.
I also want a party instead of a funeral.
 
2012-06-02 12:32:17 AM
I was expecting a damn you Obama in here. I do not have one. But cardboard damn... You'd think at least a good plywood box or something sturdy like that?

I plan on never dying myself.
 
2012-06-02 12:33:55 AM
If anyone remembers me at all, the whole trip will have been worthwhile

/after that... I have no concerns
 
2012-06-02 12:36:20 AM
This happens a lot.

As a member of the Patriot Guard Riders I've been to more 'unclaimed remains' services than I care to think about. Each one makes me very sad. Imagine being on your deathbed with no family or friends around. And to me our veterans deserve much better.

I may be wrong but I don't recall anything much more than a cardboard box.

/www.patriotguard.org
//you don't need to own a bike, let alone be a veteran, to be a part
 
2012-06-02 12:36:28 AM

AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?


They now do flash freezing with liquid nitrogen as an alternative to cremation. You still end up as ash, just with a lot less energy used to get you there.
 
2012-06-02 12:36:37 AM
Also... this seems somewhat fitting if one approaches life a la the Klingons.

Doctor Beverly Crusher: Is there any special arrangement you would like for the body?
Captain Korris: It is only an empty shell now. Please treat it as such.


Wonder if the cemetery staff would get freaked out if you did the Klingon death scream to let everyone in Stovokor know that a warrior is coming?

/But seriously I hope veterans get a quality service of their choosing. Doesn't matter the country, you sign on the dotted line to volunteer you should get that back in return as a thank you.
 
2012-06-02 12:37:11 AM
I hope young people thinking about enlisting see this.
 
2012-06-02 12:37:20 AM

bmihura: AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?

Yes.

I'd even prefer having my organs donated, if they are still good to go, then being ground up for fertilizer or dog food or whatever is most useful for others.

Once you're dead, you're dead.


I'm thinking of giving any useful bits to whoever needs them, freeze drying what's left, pouring it in a hole and planting a tree on top. Reduce, reuse, recycle.
 
2012-06-02 12:38:58 AM

Notabunny: bmihura: AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?

Yes.

I'd even prefer having my organs donated, if they are still good to go, then being ground up for fertilizer or dog food or whatever is most useful for others.

Once you're dead, you're dead.

I'm thinking of giving any useful bits to whoever needs them, freeze drying what's left, pouring it in a hole and planting a tree on top. Reduce, reuse, recycle.


Don't knock the Viking funeral pyre. Ash makes for one hell of a fertilizer.
 
2012-06-02 12:42:51 AM
Did the deceased complain? Didn't think so.
 
2012-06-02 12:43:24 AM

NFA: mr_a: How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?

Booya Mother F*cker!

Sadly, American conservatives only truly value our service members once they're dead.


That doesn't even make sense.
 
2012-06-02 12:43:45 AM

NFA: mr_a: How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?

Booya Mother F*cker!

Sadly, American conservatives only truly value our service members once they're dead.


They only care about anyone before you are born, when you are with somebody in your bedroom, or after you are dead.
 
2012-06-02 12:45:07 AM

NFA: mr_a: How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?

Booya Mother F*cker!

Sadly, American conservatives only truly value our service members once they're dead.


Unlike liberals who don't think about them at all.
 
2012-06-02 12:45:54 AM
I dont give a rats ass what happens to my rotting carcass when I die, take me up in the woods and let me become bear or mountain lion poop, hell in a hundred years nobody will remember who the hell I was anyway.

/Old and bitter
//Off to yell at cloud
 
2012-06-02 12:49:51 AM
As long as I'm not paying for it - I want my skeleton dressed up in a nice suit and encased in a clear block of acrylic resin.
 
2012-06-02 12:50:03 AM
Was it a pizza box?
 
2012-06-02 12:51:05 AM
I intend to have what is left of my carcass (after the jealous boyfriend shoots me dead at age 123 on Jan 1, 2100 for deflowering a 16 year old redhead) entombed above ground in a 50% fly ash tomb above ground. Leave the door open, the last of my moonshine will be on tap for those that come by to pay their respects.
 
2012-06-02 12:54:30 AM
I hereby declare now and forevermore WTF to stand for What the Florida.

/Who is with me?!
 
2012-06-02 12:55:05 AM

Baby Face Fister: I dont give a rats ass what happens to my rotting carcass when I die, take me up in the woods and let me become bear or mountain lion poop, hell in a hundred years in the morning nobody will remember who the hell I was anyway.

/Old and bitter
//Off to yell at cloud


FTFY but yes, I agree!
 
2012-06-02 12:56:40 AM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Notabunny: bmihura: AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?

Yes.

I'd even prefer having my organs donated, if they are still good to go, then being ground up for fertilizer or dog food or whatever is most useful for others.

Once you're dead, you're dead.

I'm thinking of giving any useful bits to whoever needs them, freeze drying what's left, pouring it in a hole and planting a tree on top. Reduce, reuse, recycle.

Don't knock the Viking funeral pyre. Ash makes for one hell of a fertilizer.


There is a certain poetic appeal to sending dusty me into the sky to float and commingle, perhaps for weeks, with other dusts from all around the world. As Dustbunny, I might even get to spend time hanging around with dust from space, left behind from the creation of our solar system, or from a passing comet. But my county air resources board tells me when I can light my fireplace, and they stopped issuing permits to burn trash years ago. I don't thing they'll buy into my "poetic appeal" idea.
 
2012-06-02 12:58:46 AM
Impressed.


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2012-06-02 12:59:31 AM

Notabunny: Representative of the unwashed masses: Notabunny: bmihura: AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?

Yes.

I'd even prefer having my organs donated, if they are still good to go, then being ground up for fertilizer or dog food or whatever is most useful for others.

Once you're dead, you're dead.

I'm thinking of giving any useful bits to whoever needs them, freeze drying what's left, pouring it in a hole and planting a tree on top. Reduce, reuse, recycle.

Don't knock the Viking funeral pyre. Ash makes for one hell of a fertilizer.

There is a certain poetic appeal to sending dusty me into the sky to float and commingle, perhaps for weeks, with other dusts from all around the world. As Dustbunny, I might even get to spend time hanging around with dust from space, left behind from the creation of our solar system, or from a passing comet. But my county air resources board tells me when I can light my fireplace, and they stopped issuing permits to burn trash years ago. I don't thing they'll buy into my "poetic appeal" idea.


Notabunny: Representative of the unwashed masses: Notabunny: bmihura: AirForceVet: As I've grown older, I'm not too keen on the idea of spending money for a coffin. I'd be cool with a wicker basket so I would decompose naturally. Why waste fuel to cremate and throw all the carbon in the air?

Yes.

I'd even prefer having my organs donated, if they are still good to go, then being ground up for fertilizer or dog food or whatever is most useful for others.

Once you're dead, you're dead.

I'm thinking of giving any useful bits to whoever needs them, freeze drying what's left, pouring it in a hole and planting a tree on top. Reduce, reuse, recycle.

Don't knock the Viking funeral pyre. Ash makes for one hell of a fertilizer.

There is a certain poetic appeal to sending dusty me into the sky to float and commingle, perhaps for weeks, with other dusts from all around the world. As Dustbunny, I might even get to spend time hanging around with dust from space, left behind from the creation of our solar system, or from a passing comet. But my county air resources board tells me when I can light my fireplace, and they stopped issuing permits to burn trash years ago. I don't thing they'll buy into my "poetic appeal" idea.


JUST DON'T EAT MY FACE OFF, PLEASE!
 
2012-06-02 01:01:17 AM

mr_a: Burying them in a cardboard box? So what, what is the difference?.

How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?


This.

I bet every single corpse in Arlington would gladly be buried head down with their bare dead buttock exposed to nature and the elements if they knew that this sacrifice would aid their brothers in arms who are still alive and hurtin'.
 
2012-06-02 01:01:43 AM

KidneyStone: //you don't need to own a bike, let alone be a veteran, to be a part


Thanks for posting this. A while back I looked into it, but wasn't sure if they'd want a Karmann Ghia along.
 
2012-06-02 01:07:56 AM
This soldier is a true American Hero and Congress is defiling his name and memory.

Cardboard is typically made of recycled wood pulp based product such as spent toilet paper and is even more biodegradable than his corpse.

Frankly I think Christianity is the most confused and ill prepared of all religions. On the one hand they believe that they shall be risen from the earth they are buried in to face their Most Unmerciful Lord at the "End Times", on the other hand, they don't bother to preserve their bodies to any degree what so ever aside from the smattering of embalming fluid left over after the FD and his cronies have cut it to use the pure stuff for "joint ointment".

But, Christianity's ill preparedness for his maker's calling has at least given us Zombie movies -- and that's more than even the Bacchanals have given us.

So fark Yeah Zombie-Jesus!
And if you don't watch at least one Zombie movie or paint up an egg like brain for Easter you just aren't a proper Christian.
 
2012-06-02 01:08:30 AM
The Pentagon can't afford actual wood coffins for everyone. They need that money for more important things.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-06-02 01:12:29 AM

mr_a: Burying them in a cardboard box? So what, what is the difference?.

How about we worry about them sleeping in cardboard boxes while they are still alive?


this...and then shut up
 
2012-06-02 01:15:07 AM
ww3.hdnux.com
Saddam is a bad man, the world will be better off with him gone.
 
2012-06-02 01:15:51 AM
I dont mean to sound like a dick or disrespectful in any way but we are talking about a dead body here. The guy doesnt care what he is buried in. Its actually really ridiculous that many of us spend thousands of dollars on pretty wood boxes that go into the ground to rot. Personally I would rather my bits mix with the Earth than be impeded by some wood or metal box. Cardboard would be just fine but I would prefer just a hole.
 
2012-06-02 01:16:28 AM
I'd be more pissed about having my remains disturbed after I was buried rather than being buried in a cardboard box.

That is if I were still alive at that point.

Just harvest my organs and dispose of the rest of my body as you would any other bio-hazard. Pro-Tip: My liver probably isn't worth harvesting. Lungs might not be in that great of a shape either.

Oh, and the brain is off-limits. Just drive a spike through that shiat. I don't wanna be no zombie.

K thx? Are we cool?
 
2012-06-02 01:17:34 AM
Cardboard box?

He was lucky. We were dead for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the evening, clean the paper bag, eat a crust of stale brainz, go to work down t' mill, fourteen hours a night, week-in week-out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home our Dad would thrash us to the sleep of the undead wi' his belt.
 
2012-06-02 01:17:51 AM
Would there be any less outrage over a really nice cardboard box? if a wooden box will decompose over time, why not a nice particle board box? If decomposition is an issue, how about a vacuum sealed clamshell enclosure? Those things are durable as hell.

People are entirely too hung up on monuments to their vanity, even in death.

I'm a vet and I'd rather see a couple of thousand bucks go toward a prosthetic arm for a live vet than a sweet box for me to decompose more slowly in. I'd rather spend money on quality of life than quality of death. I bet most vets would also; they're practical people for the most part.
 
2012-06-02 01:19:16 AM
Outraged because someone got a free cardboard tombstone? Gotdamn freeloaders.
 
2012-06-02 01:20:27 AM
When I go, I want a sky burial.
Link
 
2012-06-02 01:20:28 AM
I thought everyone knew this is why they drape flags over the coffins. So you can't see they're made out of cardboard.
 
2012-06-02 01:22:41 AM
Pretty sure there are many Vets who died homeless on the street are buried in cardboard boxes around the country in public cemeteries
/Or just burned in a oven
 
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