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2012-06-01 08:02:03 PM
I've actually been using for work lately, since Google's filter bubble has been f*cking with my search results.
 
2012-06-01 08:18:32 PM
Here's a good take on it: "Link"
 
2012-06-01 09:14:02 PM
I use search engines all the time to find the Java Runtime download link to install on a new workstation.

When I use Google, I see this:

dl.dropbox.com

When I use Bing, I see this mess:

i.imgur.com

I think I'll stick with Google.
 
2012-06-01 09:14:19 PM
I just got a new Dell Windows 7 computer in today that I have to set up for my boss.

/I got a great deal of pleasure uninstalling the Bing bullshiat that came loaded in it
//I got yer Bing right here
 
2012-06-01 10:38:31 PM
The only thing Bing was good for was the stuff that was given away for playing various online games.

/made sure I kept my yearly winnings under $600 so I didn't have to pay taxes on them
 
2012-06-01 11:04:54 PM
Google for my PC and Bing for my phone(Google won't make a real app for WP)
 
2012-06-01 11:14:43 PM
Bing looks fantastic... and that's about it.

I have a windows phone, and I never use the built-in Bing, because it sucks my ass. Oh my gosh is sucks so bad.
bing maps is a pathetic piece of garbage. It can't even find some street addresses, let alone generic things like grocery stores.
I'll go to Bing for laughs to see how terrible it is at finding stuff. Then open up Google for a real answer.

My goodness what a piece of junk. I really wish Microsoft would stop trying to be everything. Windows 7 is great, stick with that, the Xbox is great, stick with that. Stop trying to be a search engine company too. It takes more than what they think it does. I know Google would never allow an in-built Google thing in a Microsoft phone platform, but still. Maybe just allow people to mod it.

Bing is so completely useless it's insane.
 
2012-06-01 11:14:53 PM

make me some tea: I use search engines all the time to find the Java Runtime download link to install on a new workstation.

When I use Google, I see this:

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x235]

When I use Bing, I see this mess:

[i.imgur.com image 640x367]

I think I'll stick with Google.


Maybe you're not in the US, but when I searched Java Download on Bing I got the exact same results as Google. The Java web site was right at the top of the list.
 
2012-06-01 11:16:15 PM
Bing has some of the best aerial photographs anywhere. The oblique view is very useful for architects and planning urban/suburban bike rides. That's not enough to beat Google.
 
2012-06-01 11:17:32 PM
The aerial photos on Bing are useful. We use them at our architecture office all the time.
 
2012-06-01 11:17:52 PM

sure haven't: Bing looks fantastic... and that's about it.

I have a windows phone, and I never use the built-in Bing, because it sucks my ass. Oh my gosh is sucks so bad.
bing maps is a pathetic piece of garbage. It can't even find some street addresses, let alone generic things like grocery stores.
I'll go to Bing for laughs to see how terrible it is at finding stuff. Then open up Google for a real answer.

My goodness what a piece of junk. I really wish Microsoft would stop trying to be everything. Windows 7 is great, stick with that, the Xbox is great, stick with that. Stop trying to be a search engine company too. It takes more than what they think it does. I know Google would never allow an in-built Google thing in a Microsoft phone platform, but still. Maybe just allow people to mod it.

Bing is so completely useless it's insane.


Get Nokia drive on your brand of phone just google it
 
2012-06-01 11:19:45 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Bing has some of the best aerial photographs anywhere. The oblique view is very useful for architects and planning urban/suburban bike rides. That's not enough to beat Google.


whatshisname: The aerial photos on Bing are useful. We use them at our architecture office all the time.


How much does Microsoft pay you guys? I could really get into the commenting-for-profit business....
 
2012-06-01 11:20:23 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Bing has some of the best aerial photographs anywhere. The oblique view is very useful for architects and planning urban/suburban bike rides. That's not enough to beat Google.


I beat it to google so I'm getting a kick out these replies.
 
2012-06-01 11:22:46 PM

drjekel_mrhyde: Get Nokia drive on your brand of phone just google it


I've got an LG, so unless I dev-unlock it, Drive is a no go.

I know LG has that easy MFG app which I've unlocked, but that's where my prowess ends. I don't want to risk bricking it. I had a hard enough time with my Omnia2, this is a whole new level of confusing for me.
 
2012-06-01 11:42:22 PM
is it me, or does it seem like they're trying to copy google plus
 
2012-06-01 11:45:15 PM
Lately I've been preferring Bing maps over Google. Google sometimes gives some batshiat crazy directions, like taking some two lane state highway rather than the parallel interstate. The Bing times seem to be closer to actual time as well. Google is far, far better at finding businesses, though.

Our internet is pretty slow at work, and Google apparently is a bandwidth hog. Bing is much smoother at work.
 
2012-06-01 11:48:23 PM

loonatic112358: is it me, or does it seem like they're trying to copy google plus


Who the Hell aren't they trying to copy these days?

It's like they saw the Chinese ripoff industry and said, "hey let's get in on that".
 
2012-06-02 12:02:35 AM
One of my favorite quotes from a professor a couple of semesters back:
"Just type into a search engine. Even Bing will find the paper I'm talking about"

/Got nothin'
 
2012-06-02 12:03:35 AM

LavenderWolf: Smeggy Smurf: Bing has some of the best aerial photographs anywhere. The oblique view is very useful for architects and planning urban/suburban bike rides. That's not enough to beat Google.

whatshisname: The aerial photos on Bing are useful. We use them at our architecture office all the time.

How much does Microsoft pay you guys? I could really get into the commenting-for-profit business....


They don't pay us. The images really are useful for trying to figure out where the dumbass on the survey crew took the shiatty photo of the RTU. Maybe we can figure out what and where the hell the damned this is located so we can try to extrapolate the height of the screening to appease the jackass at the city. Nevermind the unit cannot possibly be seen from the street unless you are 1/4 mile away and anally retentive.

Yes I'm looking at you City of Mesa, Arizona. Fark you and your screening. Nobody will see the RTU but they'll see the screening. Fark you by a syphillis infested gorilla with freaky fetishes.

/not bitter at all
//it WAS a pretty building
 
2012-06-02 12:07:43 AM

LavenderWolf: How much does Microsoft pay you guys? I could really get into the commenting-for-profit business....


In some areas, Bing includes a higher rez 3/4 view that I assume is a composite of photographs taken from aircraft. Those are actually pretty sweet. Wouldn't bother with it for anything else.
 
2012-06-02 12:22:46 AM

LavenderWolf: Smeggy Smurf: Bing has some of the best aerial photographs anywhere. The oblique view is very useful for architects and planning urban/suburban bike rides. That's not enough to beat Google.

whatshisname: The aerial photos on Bing are useful. We use them at our architecture office all the time.

How much does Microsoft pay you guys? I could really get into the commenting-for-profit business....


If MS is paying them to appeal to architects alone I assume it's not much.
 
2012-06-02 12:23:57 AM

make me some tea: I use search engines all the time to find the Java Runtime download link to install on a new workstation.

When I use Google, I see this:

[dl.dropbox.com image 640x235]

When I use Bing, I see this mess:

[i.imgur.com image 640x367]

I think I'll stick with Google.


Uh, those first three Bing results are ads. You must not be running your ad-blocker on it. So turn it on, and you'll get the same result at the top as Google. Problem solved.
 
2012-06-02 12:27:41 AM

StingerJ: Lately I've been preferring Bing maps over Google. Google sometimes gives some batshiat crazy directions, like taking some two lane state highway rather than the parallel interstate. The Bing times seem to be closer to actual time as well. Google is far, far better at finding businesses, though.

Our internet is pretty slow at work, and Google apparently is a bandwidth hog. Bing is much smoother at work.


Funny. I find Google's directions second to none. Even if their default selection isn't very attractive, they usually provide alternatives which tend to do the trick.

Google is also developing their own isometric aerial photography database. Not as comprehensive as Bing's, but it is growing...
 
2012-06-02 12:39:24 AM
Yahoooooooooooo.

Naw just kidding.
 
2012-06-02 12:39:24 AM
Bing! Bing! Bing!

www.cartoonscrapbook.com

//my lawn, stay off
 
2012-06-02 12:44:15 AM

sure haven't: Bing looks fantastic... and that's about it.

I have a windows phone, and I never use the built-in Bing, because it sucks my ass. Oh my gosh is sucks so bad.
bing maps is a pathetic piece of garbage. It can't even find some street addresses, let alone generic things like grocery stores.
I'll go to Bing for laughs to see how terrible it is at finding stuff. Then open up Google for a real answer.

My goodness what a piece of junk. I really wish Microsoft would stop trying to be everything. Windows 7 is great, stick with that, the Xbox is great, stick with that. Stop trying to be a search engine company too. It takes more than what they think it does. I know Google would never allow an in-built Google thing in a Microsoft phone platform, but still. Maybe just allow people to mod it.

Bing is so completely useless it's insane.


As a genuine query, where do you live? I've heard that Bing is really bad in some places, but all the issues you list on your WP are not ones that I have run into myself. Hell, for some reason, the Bing results on my phone are better than the ones I get if I use it on any desktop
 
2012-06-02 12:57:23 AM

fusillade762: If MS is paying them to appeal to architects alone I assume it's not much.


Architects
Massive responsibility.
Crazy liability insurance fees.
Years of post-secondary education followed by a lengthy apprenticeship.
Incredible knowledge spanning numerous disciplines.
Paid less than the guy who unclogs your toilet.

I don't know what it is about architects but they have NOT protected their profession, and the associated fees at all.
 
2012-06-02 01:17:08 AM

LavenderWolf: Smeggy Smurf: Bing has some of the best aerial photographs anywhere. The oblique view is very useful for architects and planning urban/suburban bike rides. That's not enough to beat Google.

whatshisname: The aerial photos on Bing are useful. We use them at our architecture office all the time.

How much does Microsoft pay you guys? I could really get into the commenting-for-profit business....


Meh, I can't stand Bing, since it's the default search on my IE-only hospital work computers. I can't tell you how many times I've clicked thru searches on Bing, only to give up and try Google and have what I want come up as the first hit..

...but Bing's aerial photos ARE really nice.
 
2012-06-02 01:19:59 AM
Bing is great for porn.
 
2012-06-02 01:23:10 AM
It would be nice if Bing were a comparable search engine to Google.

But it's not.
 
2012-06-02 01:34:02 AM
Bing is much better at finding pornography.

/exeunt
 
2012-06-02 04:17:43 AM
I really don't know that I've ever used Bing. I certainly haven't gone to it on purpose.
 
2012-06-02 04:53:07 AM

loonatic112358: is it me, or does it seem like they're trying to copy google plus


Just you.

/srsly, just you
 
2012-06-02 05:12:22 AM
My in-laws use Bing exclusively for searches, since they hate Google with a passion and refuse to use any of their services. From what I've seen they haven't been hobbled by their decision. I don't really get the Bing hate. It seems functional enough. You type stuff in and it gives you links or pics. I did notice that Google changed their image search to mimic Bing's format, which is odd since apparently Bing fails so hard.
 
2012-06-02 05:53:29 AM
As long as they keep having the commercials with the word "doing" up on the screen, I'm fine.

/chuckle every time
 
2012-06-02 07:39:22 AM
I'm getting sick of search engines trying to read my mind and guess what I "probably wanted" to search for, rather than searching for exactly what the fark I typed in.

Google has been doing this more and more, forcing me to put quotation marks around every word I search for to get meaningful results in far too many cases. I tried switching to Bing, but Bing gives even worse results, particularly searching for something obscure.

Now it looks like Bing is going even further in the direction of "oh, we think you meant to search for..." with their social media integration. I don't give a flying fark what people on twitter or facebook have been clicking "like" on. Just show me the results that best match what I searched for.

I just want a plain search engine that gives me what I search for. Is that so hard to ask? Something like Google circa 2008. Thanks.
 
2012-06-02 07:51:56 AM
If you're a privacy freak, Startpage.com is great. They don't record your ip address, and you get pretty much the same results as google.

Link

from their homepage:

"Startpage offers you Web search results from Google in complete privacy!

When you search with Startpage, we remove all identifying information from your query and submit it anonymously to Google ourselves. We get the results and return them to you in total privacy.

Your IP address is never recorded, your visit is not logged, and no tracking cookies are placed on your browser. When it comes to protecting your privacy, Startpage runs the tightest ship on the Internet. Our outstanding privacy policy and thoughtful engineering give you great search results in total anonymity. Here are some of our key features:

Free proxy surfing available.
Praised by privacy experts worldwide.
Twelve-year company track record.
Third-party certified.
No IP address recorded.
No record is made of your searches.
No identifying or tracking cookies used.
Powerful SSL encryption available.
To learn more, check out our privacy page and read our privacy policy. We're confident you'll like what you see."
 
2012-06-02 09:27:29 AM

the_sidewinder: sure haven't: Bing looks fantastic... and that's about it.

I have a windows phone, and I never use the built-in Bing, because it sucks my ass. Oh my gosh is sucks so bad.
bing maps is a pathetic piece of garbage. It can't even find some street addresses, let alone generic things like grocery stores.
I'll go to Bing for laughs to see how terrible it is at finding stuff. Then open up Google for a real answer.

My goodness what a piece of junk. I really wish Microsoft would stop trying to be everything. Windows 7 is great, stick with that, the Xbox is great, stick with that. Stop trying to be a search engine company too. It takes more than what they think it does. I know Google would never allow an in-built Google thing in a Microsoft phone platform, but still. Maybe just allow people to mod it.

Bing is so completely useless it's insane.

As a genuine query, where do you live? I've heard that Bing is really bad in some places, but all the issues you list on your WP are not ones that I have run into myself. Hell, for some reason, the Bing results on my phone are better than the ones I get if I use it on any desktop


I'm Canadian. And admittedly, I know Bing on WP doesn't officially "support" Canada. I don't care. If you're gonna sell your product in a country, have it work. I don't care that Bing doesn't work in Canada, to me it's just useless. Even when it does "support" this country, I'll still never use it out of spite, if I'm still on WP by that point.
 
2012-06-02 09:43:31 AM

sure haven't: the_sidewinder: sure haven't: Bing looks fantastic... and that's about it.

I have a windows phone, and I never use the built-in Bing, because it sucks my ass. Oh my gosh is sucks so bad.
bing maps is a pathetic piece of garbage. It can't even find some street addresses, let alone generic things like grocery stores.
I'll go to Bing for laughs to see how terrible it is at finding stuff. Then open up Google for a real answer.

My goodness what a piece of junk. I really wish Microsoft would stop trying to be everything. Windows 7 is great, stick with that, the Xbox is great, stick with that. Stop trying to be a search engine company too. It takes more than what they think it does. I know Google would never allow an in-built Google thing in a Microsoft phone platform, but still. Maybe just allow people to mod it.

Bing is so completely useless it's insane.

As a genuine query, where do you live? I've heard that Bing is really bad in some places, but all the issues you list on your WP are not ones that I have run into myself. Hell, for some reason, the Bing results on my phone are better than the ones I get if I use it on any desktop

I'm Canadian. And admittedly, I know Bing on WP doesn't officially "support" Canada. I don't care. If you're gonna sell your product in a country, have it work. I don't care that Bing doesn't work in Canada, to me it's just useless. Even when it does "support" this country, I'll still never use it out of spite, if I'm still on WP by that point.


Posting from Nokia Lumia, so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-06-02 10:08:23 AM
Locked down computers at work, had an issue with a system so I searched on the Microsoft error code from the event log.
Bing offered 10 links to sites that would fix the PC for a price....
Google brought up the MS Technet page with the easy fix and a link to the download...
 
2012-06-02 10:23:57 AM
I can't wait for them to roll out MooF, Zunk and Plung.

Someone needs to tell MSFT that babyspeak websites and gadgets died in the tech crash.
 
2012-06-02 10:48:17 AM
i use bing on my work PC (since everything requires IE and i was too lazy to change the default.)

its not bad, but i still prefer google
 
2012-06-02 10:57:39 AM

Lorelle: /made sure I kept my yearly winnings under $600 so I didn't have to pay taxes on them


You still have to pay taxes on them.
 
2012-06-02 10:59:11 AM

sure haven't: I'm Canadian


Now I get to ask where in Canada, because I'm in Calgary

/Also, handset and carrier
 
2012-06-02 11:03:19 AM

the_sidewinder: sure haven't: I'm Canadian

Now I get to ask where in Canada, because I'm in Calgary

/Also, handset and carrier


Or not, don't really care
 
2012-06-02 11:15:01 AM

Basily Gourt: If you're a privacy freak, Startpage.com is great. They don't record your ip address, and you get pretty much the same results as google.

Link

from their homepage:

"Startpage offers you Web search results from Google in complete privacy!

When you search with Startpage, we remove all identifying information from your query and submit it anonymously to Google ourselves. We get the results and return them to you in total privacy.

Your IP address is never recorded, your visit is not logged, and no tracking cookies are placed on your browser. When it comes to protecting your privacy, Startpage runs the tightest ship on the Internet. Our outstanding privacy policy and thoughtful engineering give you great search results in total anonymity. Here are some of our key features:

Free proxy surfing available.
Praised by privacy experts worldwide.
Twelve-year company track record.
Third-party certified.
No IP address recorded.
No record is made of your searches.
No identifying or tracking cookies used.
Powerful SSL encryption available.
To learn more, check out our privacy page and read our privacy policy. We're confident you'll like what you see."


I'm not so sure about the IP addresses not being recorded.. The site is running Apache, which, by default logs IP addresses in the access_logs and error_logs (and others if you tell it to)..I guess it is possible to turn it off in Apache, but can't imagine any server admin would do that.. Not knocking the service, it sounds like a great idea, just a little suspicious of no IP addresses recorded on their systems.
 
2012-06-02 11:44:37 AM
Bing Is Not Google.
 
2012-06-02 12:31:30 PM

jack21221: I'm getting sick of search engines trying to read my mind and guess what I "probably wanted" to search for, rather than searching for exactly what the fark I typed in.

Google has been doing this more and more, forcing me to put quotation marks around every word I search for to get meaningful results in far too many cases


Man, I knew others had to have this same complaint. At least 80% of searches I do on Google require using quotation marks to filter out the crap it thinks I am looking for. Sometimes the other results are so confusing, I thought I typed in the wrong query.
 
2012-06-02 12:49:45 PM

blackminded: Bing is much better at finding pornography.

/exeunt


zarberg: Bing is great for porn.


You guys do know there are actually porn search engines, right?
 
2012-06-02 12:53:54 PM

flaminio: Bing Is Not Google.


If Bing stands for Bing Is Not Google, doesn't that create some sort of infinite loop?
 
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