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(Investors Business Daily)   Heartless bastard just comes out and says that poor people don't deserve lights. Heartless bastard in question is: A.) Lord Voldemort, B.) Monty Burns, or C.) The Democratic Mayor of Detroit   (news.investors.com ) divider line 271
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2012-06-01 11:08:48 AM  
so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?
 
2012-06-01 11:12:46 AM  

Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?


With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.
 
2012-06-01 11:14:32 AM  
A few years ago I saw a great plan for tearing Detroit down. It may sound harsh but if half the city is falling apart and crime ridden then get rid of those areas, bulldoze them, replace them with parks, the remaining nice areas are even nicer and the area can begin to grow and prosper again.

Also forget lights, poor people don't deserve rights.
 
2012-06-01 11:15:49 AM  

unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.


I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.
 
2012-06-01 11:21:10 AM  
Turning off streetlights in alleyways and in low-income areas sounds like a fantastic idea.
Because as we know.. low-income areas are never crime-addled.. and criminals hardly ever operate in the cover of dark.
 
2012-06-01 11:22:47 AM  

unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.


I read a book, right wing apocalypse sci-fi, that had a military hero who had to liberate Muslim Detroit from a warlord populace in one chapter. I kind of thought it was fantasy then...but now...who knows.
 
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2012-06-01 11:31:46 AM  
Socialist Workers Paradise of Detroit North Korea? I can see that it's a quality piece of objective journalism.
 
2012-06-01 11:32:24 AM  

Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?



Weaver95,
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2012-06-01 11:38:36 AM  

AbbeySomeone: unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.

I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.


I don't want a 'utopia'. I want a solid base to ride out the collapse of the US empire, then be able to scavenge resources to build my new society.
 
2012-06-01 11:42:52 AM  

Weaver95: AbbeySomeone: unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.

I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.

I don't want a 'utopia'. I want a solid base to ride out the collapse of the US empire, then be able to scavenge resources to build my new society.


Won't work, if it all goes to pot the people who will pick up the pieces and create order are the criminals, and the more ruthless ones will quickly rise to the top and take local power, maybe you make a stand in your fortress but best case scenario is it'll end up like the ending of Scarface, you'll be shooting everyone that swarms in but there'll be too many of them. At least you'll have coke though. Note: Stock up on coke.

Or you acquiesce and let them take your fort then feel bad about letting them take your fort and not putting up a more heroic fight.
 
2012-06-01 11:49:19 AM  

Slaxl: Weaver95: AbbeySomeone: unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.

I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.

I don't want a 'utopia'. I want a solid base to ride out the collapse of the US empire, then be able to scavenge resources to build my new society.

Won't work, if it all goes to pot the people who will pick up the pieces and create order are the criminals, and the more ruthless ones will quickly rise to the top and take local power, maybe you make a stand in your fortress but best case scenario is it'll end up like the ending of Scarface, you'll be shooting everyone that swarms in but there'll be too many of them. At least you'll have coke though. Note: Stock up on coke.

Or you acquiesce and let them take your fort then feel bad about letting them take your fort and not putting up a more heroic fight.


what makes you think I'm not gonna be pro-active against the local criminals....

I have several strategies.
 
2012-06-01 11:53:19 AM  

Slaxl: A few years ago I saw a great plan for tearing Detroit down. It may sound harsh but if half the city is falling apart and crime ridden then get rid of those areas, bulldoze them, replace them with parks, the remaining nice areas are even nicer and the area can begin to grow and prosper again.

Also forget lights, poor people don't deserve rights.


That's happening whether it's planned or not. Wildlife is creeping back into large sections of Detroit. There were a few articles posted a couple of years back about how some people have taken to hunting the pheasants and racoons that have moved in, and are tending vegetable gardens in the empty lots.

There's good land under all that crumbling asphalt and discarded needles.
 
2012-06-01 11:56:12 AM  
Add in an estimated $2,000-plus per car for retiree health care and pensions for the Big Three, and you wonder not why Detroit failed, but why it didn't fail sooner.

The big "three" automakers are in cahoots with the UNIONS to GIVE our heritage away to the dirty 99¢! See? SEE? I've been telling you those huge corporations were all socialist! Lee Iacocca? Socialist! Roger Smith? Socialist! William CRAPO Durant? TREE HUGGING LIBTARD MOONBAT SOCIALIST I TELL YOU!!1! We let that pinko Frenchman Pierre S. du Pont take over GM in 1920, and what did that get us? The Great Derpression!! And Prohabition!
 
2012-06-01 12:00:25 PM  
that article wasn't biased at all.
 
2012-06-01 12:05:13 PM  
Give them three lights.
 
2012-06-01 12:05:29 PM  

Weaver95: Slaxl: Weaver95: AbbeySomeone: unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.

I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.

I don't want a 'utopia'. I want a solid base to ride out the collapse of the US empire, then be able to scavenge resources to build my new society.

Won't work, if it all goes to pot the people who will pick up the pieces and create order are the criminals, and the more ruthless ones will quickly rise to the top and take local power, maybe you make a stand in your fortress but best case scenario is it'll end up like the ending of Scarface, you'll be shooting everyone that swarms in but there'll be too many of them. At least you'll have coke though. Note: Stock up on coke.

Or you acquiesce and let them take your fort then feel bad about letting them take your fort and not putting up a more heroic fight.

what makes you think I'm not gonna be pro-active against the local criminals....

I have several strategies.


Dealing with local criminals won't be that challenging, so long as you have a plan and can keep them fighting each other.

I think the hardest thing will be treading that fine balance between accumulating enough guns to be able to hold your fortress and having the ATF decide you have too many guns before the collapse.

The second hardest might be securing a reliable source of potable water without relying on the city grid.
 
2012-06-01 12:05:49 PM  

Sybarite: Give them three lights.


Rationing? Lightbulb death panels.
 
2012-06-01 12:10:37 PM  

Slaxl: A few years ago I saw a great plan for tearing Detroit down. It may sound harsh but if half the city is falling apart and crime ridden then get rid of those areas, bulldoze them, replace them with parks, the remaining nice areas are even nicer and the area can begin to grow and prosper again.


Delta City, here we come!
 
2012-06-01 12:11:18 PM  

Shostie: Slaxl: A few years ago I saw a great plan for tearing Detroit down. It may sound harsh but if half the city is falling apart and crime ridden then get rid of those areas, bulldoze them, replace them with parks, the remaining nice areas are even nicer and the area can begin to grow and prosper again.

Delta City, here we come!


Raccoon City.
 
2012-06-01 12:11:21 PM  

unlikely:
I think the hardest thing will be treading that fine balance between accumulating enough guns to be able to hold your fortress and having the ATF decide you have too many guns before the collapse.


this is america. as long as i'm quiet and not making lots of noise, the ATF won't care. just file the paperwork, pay up promptly and do my level best to make sure the government forgets about me.

The second hardest might be securing a reliable source of potable water without relying on the city grid.

that's more of a challenge. however, cisterns and water filtration technology would be a good start. its also possible to do some research and find a spot that either has access to well water or is located near a source of water and build on top of that. Ideally, a combination of strategies would be best.
 
2012-06-01 12:15:13 PM  

Weaver95: Slaxl: Weaver95: AbbeySomeone: unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.

I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.

I don't want a 'utopia'. I want a solid base to ride out the collapse of the US empire, then be able to scavenge resources to build my new society.

Won't work, if it all goes to pot the people who will pick up the pieces and create order are the criminals, and the more ruthless ones will quickly rise to the top and take local power, maybe you make a stand in your fortress but best case scenario is it'll end up like the ending of Scarface, you'll be shooting everyone that swarms in but there'll be too many of them. At least you'll have coke though. Note: Stock up on coke.

Or you acquiesce and let them take your fort then feel bad about letting them take your fort and not putting up a more heroic fight.

what makes you think I'm not gonna be pro-active against the local criminals....

I have several strategies.


Do share some strategy, as a local neighbourhood criminal I'd like to know what I'm up aga... I mean, as a concerned citizen facing similar issues I'd like to know what I can do to help.
 
2012-06-01 12:19:28 PM  
Remember Roger and Me? What was that '88-'89? Flint was thriving until all the good jobs went to Mexico.
www2.wwnorton.com
Nobody saw this shiat coming
 
2012-06-01 12:25:59 PM  

Slaxl: A few years ago I saw a great plan for tearing Detroit down. It may sound harsh but if half the city is falling apart and crime ridden then get rid of those areas, bulldoze them, replace them with parks, the remaining nice areas are even nicer and the area can begin to grow and prosper again.

Also forget lights, poor people don't deserve rights.


They tried doing that in New Orleans after Katrina.

Local citizens through a fit saying we should be rebuilding all of the low income housing in the flooded areas.
 
2012-06-01 12:29:05 PM  
"Public" lighting isn't really a "right"... it is a public service that is determined by whether there is a need in an area. You can go to plenty of rural roads and corners that doesn't have public lighting on them. Does that mean the people who use it don't "deserve" lights? No, it is because barely anyone drives there and it is determined unnecessary.

Now, a city like Detroit, even in decline, has a much larger population per sq. mile anywhere in their city than the middle of nowhere Wyoming. But, if a certain street corner is not used by the majority of the people of the city and is determined to be of little use, I can see the issue's here. Of course, when saying "everyone should move to more centralized, 'better' neighborhoods"... the people who are still in these neighborhoods they want people out of, you think that if they COULD get to those "better" neighborhoods, they wouldn't have already?
 
2012-06-01 12:51:13 PM  
 
2012-06-01 01:00:16 PM  

dletter: "Public" lighting isn't really a "right"... it is a public service that is determined by whether there is a need in an area. You can go to plenty of rural roads and corners that doesn't have public lighting on them. Does that mean the people who use it don't "deserve" lights? No, it is because barely anyone drives there and it is determined unnecessary.

Now, a city like Detroit, even in decline, has a much larger population per sq. mile anywhere in their city than the middle of nowhere Wyoming. But, if a certain street corner is not used by the majority of the people of the city and is determined to be of little use, I can see the issue's here. Of course, when saying "everyone should move to more centralized, 'better' neighborhoods"... the people who are still in these neighborhoods they want people out of, you think that if they COULD get to those "better" neighborhoods, they wouldn't have already?


The lighting is also paid for by taxpayers so it would make sense that the areas that do have taxpayers will get more services. Silly I know.
 
2012-06-01 01:02:43 PM  

Slaxl: Also forget lights, poor people don't deserve rights.


High fiving to you!
 
2012-06-01 01:21:57 PM  

Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?


Depends on the city planning commission. Would they allow you to combine lots like that? I know in these parts its quite a process to get permission to join two residential lots together and allow you to build a single structure on it.
 
2012-06-01 01:27:16 PM  
All quotes are paraphrased:

Democratic Mayor of Detroit: "We can no longer even afford to repair streetlights in the entire city."

Investor.com: "Democrats don't think poor people deserve lights."

Democratic Mayor of Detroit: "Because of the massive contraction in population, Detroit covers more space that we can effectively run and provide for. It would be great if people would cluster together so that we could better serve their needs."

Investor.com: "Democrats are demanding that poor people move into ghettos, possibly for slaughter."

Democrats: "What would you have done differently?"

Investor.com: "If Republicans were elected, God's smiling face would light up the dark streets at night, the auto industry would be worth a million billion dollars, and there would be ZERO crime because of Jesus."
 
2012-06-01 01:31:42 PM  
Weaver, I'm just going to point out that I would make a great stooge/henchman for your compound.

/Decent at ropes, chemistry, and making fire without a lighter; I also have some medical training
//Easy to sodomize, if that's your thing (NTTAWWT)
 
2012-06-01 01:32:57 PM  
Where was Malcolm when Colorado Springs did it? Not uniony enough for him to slam?
 
2012-06-01 01:48:28 PM  

Weaver95: AbbeySomeone: unlikely: Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?

With the prices of land in the area, it is a very plausible theory too.

I can see that happening. You could create your own utopia.

I don't want a 'utopia'. I want a solid base to ride out the collapse of the US empire, then be able to scavenge resources to build my new society.


Yeah but you'd have to live in Detroit. I think I'd rather die.
 
2012-06-01 01:50:26 PM  
Labor overhead was an albatross around Detroit's neck. Until recently, total pay and benefits for a full-time worker at the Big Three averaged $140,000 a year vs. $80,00 for their foreign competitors.

Well, yes, paying your employees $139,920 more per year than your competition can make things somewhat unequal.

At least he made everything right be quoting both Karl Rove and Ronald Reagan in his editorial. Well done sir/ma'am/undecided.
 
2012-06-01 01:54:54 PM  
But they'll still have refrigerators, so they're not really poor
 
2012-06-01 01:58:14 PM  
Heartless bastard just comes out and says that poor people don't deserve lights. Heartless bastard in question is: A.) Lord Voldemort, B.) Monty Burns, or C.) Subby

Seriously, subby.. you suck.
 
2012-06-01 01:59:43 PM  

Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?


I've always wanted to do that. I don't even think you'd have to buy the land. Just get an old car factory in the middle of Detroit, and there's nobody around for miles to notice. Spend some time repairing all the machinery and your militia has everything it needs to survive the impending race war (after you start it, that is).
 
2012-06-01 02:07:56 PM  

Sybarite: Give them three lights.


I was told there would be four lights.
 
2012-06-01 02:08:14 PM  
What is this, the shiatty blog version of IBD?
 
2012-06-01 02:08:22 PM  
It's too bad the UAW never learned how to make cars that people wanted to drive.
 
2012-06-01 02:09:48 PM  

Weaver95: so I could, in theory, buy up a block of buildings and turn them into a separate compound - with independent power sources, food generation, etc - wall it in and live like a warlord?


And then someone else could take it. In theory.

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2012-06-01 02:12:53 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: But they'll still have refrigerators, so they're not really poor


and they can open them if they want to see anything.
 
2012-06-01 02:13:37 PM  
Hit the author of that drivel in the head with a steel pipe, perhaps.
 
2012-06-01 02:14:08 PM  
Strictly speaking, Lord Voldemort didn't have an economic platform. He himself was impoverished as a youth, if you recall.
 
2012-06-01 02:14:39 PM  

Slaxl: A few years ago I saw a great plan for tearing Detroit down. It may sound harsh but if half the city is falling apart and crime ridden then get rid of those areas, bulldoze them, replace them with parks, the remaining nice areas are even nicer and the area can begin to grow and prosper again.

Also forget lights, poor people don't deserve rights.


Who else read the headline as "rights".

Anyways in most cities thee are sparcly populated areas right outside the city limits without lights. As the city grows the areas that are most densely populated become incorporated into the city and they get lights. It sounds like the city is ultimately trying to shrink its incorporated zone away from sparsely populated areas, which is totally reasonable.
 
2012-06-01 02:15:02 PM  
Labor overhead was an albatross around Detroit's neck. Until recently, total pay and benefits for a full-time worker at the Big Three averaged $140,000 a year vs. $80,00 for their foreign competitors.

Where are you getting those figures? Oh, that's right, they're a crock of sh*t
 
2012-06-01 02:15:11 PM  
In the socialist worker's paradise that was the Motor City,

That's where I stopped reading. My derp shields can only take so much.
 
2012-06-01 02:17:33 PM  
So this is how it's going to be ALL THE TIME NOW mods/liters?

Really?


Fark this. I'm going somewhere a little less polarized for a while, like SFChron. Farking neocons over there are totes sane compared to this.
 
2012-06-01 02:17:57 PM  
I like how they weave in some blame on Obama for the fall of Detroit. Yeah, things are not working. Obama!
 
2012-06-01 02:19:12 PM  
Detroit, everyone is an @sshole. It's even worse than Jersey.
 
2012-06-01 02:19:24 PM  
Recently Indiana became a right-to-work state, cognizant that, in a high-tech global economy, risk takers take risks and businesses thrive only when taxes and regulations are kept low and manageable, and workers are not herded into union shops and employers shackled with union dictates.

Really? 'Cos it seems more that likely to me that Indiana realized that its only hope for survival is to race to the bottom with developing nations to provide cheap labor. But, hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.
 
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