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Deucednuisance		2012-06-01 02:57:06 PM

lennavan: If the hitman does not follow through, then it's just all talk.

That is just all kinds of incorrect.

Keywords for your research: "Conspiracy", "Attempt", "arrested hiring hitman".

Apparently you're going to be surprised.

Big_Fat_Liar		2012-06-01 02:57:27 PM

qorkfiend: Worse than a direct call to mutilate people with acid? What do you consider worse?

DIAF

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 02:58:49 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: qorkfiend: Worse than a direct call to mutilate people with acid? What do you consider worse?

DIAF

Yeah, but have any Democrats actually said their opponents should die in a fire?

Brandyelf		2012-06-01 03:00:06 PM

Jackal_N: skullkrusher: skullkrusher: lennavan: Link

thank you . Where am I looking specifically?

I did find this

"Whereas childless women earn 94 cents of a childless man's dollar, mothers earn only 60 cents of a father's dollar."

Don't ever take anyone else's word on something as important as birth control.
Ever. Ever. Ever.

/Very, very lucky.
//And eventually much smarter and careful.

^^ This.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:00:49 PM

qorkfiend: Big_Fat_Liar: qorkfiend: Worse than a direct call to mutilate people with acid? What do you consider worse?

DIAF

Yeah, but have any Democrats actually said their opponents should die in a fire?

If they had, would you have taken them seriously? Do you not get that it doesn't make sense to take them seriously?

dr_blasto		2012-06-01 03:00:50 PM

Serious Black: gulogulo: Brandyelf: On her facebook page...

"Statement from Friends of Nan Hayworth

That's not her facebook page, though. But still, it's pretty stupid. I can't find the passage you're talking about on her FB

I just found it. This is the page it was found on, and the letter the aforementioned Farker posted was added by somebody else by the name of Diane Sugarman. Since it wasn't posted by Nan Hayworth herself or a spokesman, I have to question the veracity of the letter. I find it hard to believe somebody could be so damn callous and genuinely evil.

Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating ~~throwing~~ hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

lennavan		2012-06-01 03:03:48 PM

Deucednuisance: lennavan: If the hitman does not follow through, then it's just all talk.

That is just all kinds of incorrect.

Keywords for your research: "Conspiracy", "Attempt", "arrested hiring hitman".

Apparently you're going to be surprised.

Keywords for your research: "sarcasm," snark," context" and "quotation punctuation rules."

First you will be shocked. Then you will learn something.

skullkrusher		2012-06-01 03:04:06 PM

qorkfiend: skullkrusher: qorkfiend: Jackal_N: SkunkWerks: Voting Republican is a learned behavior.

If more people would actually listen to what they say (instead of letting their minister, 1%ers, favorite fear monger, etc. tell them how to vote)
it would become an UNlearned behavior.

...and yes, $40k-a-year Republicans, I'm looking at you.
...and 1%ers are laughing at you.

I think a lot of people have internalized "both sides are bad". They don't even think in those terms; they see a reprehensible act or statement by a politician, and assume that all politicians would act the same way in the same situation.

I think a lot of people don't even follow what's going on and pull the same lever they've been pulling for the past few decades

Right, and if they do hear about it, it's waved off as "business as usual in politics".

for a long time that was the case. Both sides were indeed bad and in more or less equal measure so it became what people perceived as a lesser of 2 evils sort of thing. While both sides remain bad, one has gotten all George Thoroughgood and the other remains Michael Jackson. I think a lot of people don't pay all that much attention and just keep on keeping on with D or R or whatever without regard for changes that have happened. The R's are straight up, almost to a person, certi-farking-fiable these days.

Jackal_N		2012-06-01 03:04:50 PM

ciberido		2012-06-01 03:05:15 PM

vernonFL: Rep. Nan' s district includes Peeksgill.

[a.abcnews.com image 530x411]

Well, you take the good, you take the bad.

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:06:19 PM

Wangiss: qorkfiend: Big_Fat_Liar: qorkfiend: Worse than a direct call to mutilate people with acid? What do you consider worse?

DIAF

Yeah, but have any Democrats actually said their opponents should die in a fire?

If they had, would you have taken them seriously? Do you not get that it doesn't make sense to take them seriously?

I might, if the Democrats had spent the last 4 years ramping up their violent rhetoric, catering to the extremists in their party, and whipping their supporters into a frenzy.

dr_blasto		2012-06-01 03:07:42 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: qorkfiend: Worse than a direct call to mutilate people with acid? What do you consider worse?

DIAF

He's not just a random asshole on the internet posting anonymously. He's her goddamn campaign spokesman. Further to the point, he's not just wishing a horrible death by fire. He's called for action "...hurl acid at them" which is significantly worse.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:08:49 PM

dr_blasto: Serious Black: gulogulo: Brandyelf: On her facebook page...

"Statement from Friends of Nan Hayworth

That's not her facebook page, though. But still, it's pretty stupid. I can't find the passage you're talking about on her FB

I just found it. This is the page it was found on, and the letter the aforementioned Farker posted was added by somebody else by the name of Diane Sugarman. Since it wasn't posted by Nan Hayworth herself or a spokesman, I have to question the veracity of the letter. I find it hard to believe somebody could be so damn callous and genuinely evil.

Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:09:07 PM

Jackal_N: qorkfiend: Jackal_N: SkunkWerks: Voting Republican is a learned behavior.

If more people would actually listen to what they say (instead of letting their minister, 1%ers, favorite fear monger, etc. tell them how to vote)
it would become an UNlearned behavior.

...and yes, $40k-a-year Republicans, I'm looking at you.
...and 1%ers are laughing at you.

I think a lot of people have internalized "both sides are bad". They don't even think in those terms; they see a reprehensible act or statement by a politician, and assume that all politicians would act the same way in the same situation.

You are right, but considering many politicians' behavior, a lot of them in both all parties need to work on their ethics.

Sure, but there are varying degrees of "bad". "Throw acid at them" is substantially worse than "vernonFL: Rep. Nan' s district includes Peeksgill.

[a.abcnews.com image 530x411]

It's "Peekskill" :P

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:09:59 PM

qorkfiend: Jackal_N: qorkfiend: Jackal_N: SkunkWerks: Voting Republican is a learned behavior.

If more people would actually listen to what they say (instead of letting their minister, 1%ers, favorite fear monger, etc. tell them how to vote)
it would become an UNlearned behavior.

...and yes, $40k-a-year Republicans, I'm looking at you.
...and 1%ers are laughing at you.

I think a lot of people have internalized "both sides are bad". They don't even think in those terms; they see a reprehensible act or statement by a politician, and assume that all politicians would act the same way in the same situation.

You are right, but considering many politicians' behavior, a lot of them in both all parties need to work on their ethics.

Sure, but there are varying degrees of "bad". "Throw acid at them" is substantially worse than "vernonFL: Rep. Nan' s district includes Peeksgill.

[a.abcnews.com image 530x411]

It's "Peekskill" :P

Maybe not "substantially worse" than vernonFL. Quote failure.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:11:12 PM

dr_blasto: Big_Fat_Liar: qorkfiend: Worse than a direct call to mutilate people with acid? What do you consider worse?

DIAF

He's not just a random asshole on the internet posting anonymously. He's her goddamn campaign spokesman. Further to the point, he's not just wishing a horrible death by fire. He's called for action "...hurl acid at them" which is significantly worse.

Whoops, you and I both forgot our ellipses:

"...hurl some acid at..." is the exact assholish quote.

mrshowrules		2012-06-01 03:12:04 PM

Publikwerks: mrshowrules: lennavan: umad: You're probably right. One gender taking years off from their careers probably doesn't have any affect on the amount of money they make or the rate at which they advance up the ladder. No affect at all.

No no no, I'm starting to rethink things. You're probably right. There is no way to account for that when performing a gender pay gap study. No way at all. All women take years off from their careers to have babies. And they all stay home. All of them. No possible way you could compare women who do not ever take time off or have kids with men who do not take time of or have kids. Nope.

Hold on, I bet you a man would be capable of adjusting for this in a study.

I bet paid maternity and paternity leave would fix this up. You pay a guy to go home with his wife and new baby, I betcha alot would jump on it.

I have two kids (Canada). We get 12 months total. How we split that is between my wife and I. She got the whole 12 month each time. 100% pay. Some European countries give up to 24 months. Might be excessive but the 3 months you get in the US is a joke.

skullkrusher		2012-06-01 03:13:10 PM

mrshowrules: Publikwerks: mrshowrules: lennavan: umad: You're probably right. One gender taking years off from their careers probably doesn't have any affect on the amount of money they make or the rate at which they advance up the ladder. No affect at all.

No no no, I'm starting to rethink things. You're probably right. There is no way to account for that when performing a gender pay gap study. No way at all. All women take years off from their careers to have babies. And they all stay home. All of them. No possible way you could compare women who do not ever take time off or have kids with men who do not take time of or have kids. Nope.

Hold on, I bet you a man would be capable of adjusting for this in a study.

I bet paid maternity and paternity leave would fix this up. You pay a guy to go home with his wife and new baby, I betcha alot would jump on it.

I have two kids (Canada). We get 12 months total. How we split that is between my wife and I. She got the whole 12 month each time. 100% pay. Some European countries give up to 24 months. Might be excessive but the 3 months you get in the US is a joke.

US maternity leave is not paid either.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:14:21 PM

skullkrusher: mrshowrules: Publikwerks: mrshowrules: lennavan: umad: You're probably right. One gender taking years off from their careers probably doesn't have any affect on the amount of money they make or the rate at which they advance up the ladder. No affect at all.

No no no, I'm starting to rethink things. You're probably right. There is no way to account for that when performing a gender pay gap study. No way at all. All women take years off from their careers to have babies. And they all stay home. All of them. No possible way you could compare women who do not ever take time off or have kids with men who do not take time of or have kids. Nope.

Hold on, I bet you a man would be capable of adjusting for this in a study.

I bet paid maternity and paternity leave would fix this up. You pay a guy to go home with his wife and new baby, I betcha alot would jump on it.

I have two kids (Canada). We get 12 months total. How we split that is between my wife and I. She got the whole 12 month each time. 100% pay. Some European countries give up to 24 months. Might be excessive but the 3 months you get in the US is a joke.

US maternity leave is not paid either.

The FMLA leave you get from the government isn't, but every employer I've worked for has given paid maternity leave of varying lengths. I recognize not all employers do, but it's not like it isn't happening in the U.S.

dr_blasto		2012-06-01 03:14:53 PM

Wangiss: dr_blasto: Serious Black: gulogulo: Brandyelf: On her facebook page...

"Statement from Friends of Nan Hayworth

That's not her facebook page, though. But still, it's pretty stupid. I can't find the passage you're talking about on her FB

I just found it. This is the page it was found on, and the letter the aforementioned Farker posted was added by somebody else by the name of Diane Sugarman. Since it wasn't posted by Nan Hayworth herself or a spokesman, I have to question the veracity of the letter. I find it hard to believe somebody could be so damn callous and genuinely evil.

Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

Oh, I did miss it. Sorry, he's only advocating hurling acid at 13 women. Probably only wants that to hit their toes or something and, true, he didn't mention the pH level recommended in this action-maybe the Farker upthread was right and he just wanted it to be orange juice and simply forgot how to spell 'orange' before he had to post that message in a public forum. That makes this completely different, please accept my apologies for somehow thinking this was actually something bad to say as a spokesman for a congressional campaign. I guess we're all good now, right?

skullkrusher		2012-06-01 03:16:25 PM

Wangiss: skullkrusher: mrshowrules: Publikwerks: mrshowrules: lennavan: umad: You're probably right. One gender taking years off from their careers probably doesn't have any affect on the amount of money they make or the rate at which they advance up the ladder. No affect at all.

No no no, I'm starting to rethink things. You're probably right. There is no way to account for that when performing a gender pay gap study. No way at all. All women take years off from their careers to have babies. And they all stay home. All of them. No possible way you could compare women who do not ever take time off or have kids with men who do not take time of or have kids. Nope.

Hold on, I bet you a man would be capable of adjusting for this in a study.

I bet paid maternity and paternity leave would fix this up. You pay a guy to go home with his wife and new baby, I betcha alot would jump on it.

I have two kids (Canada). We get 12 months total. How we split that is between my wife and I. She got the whole 12 month each time. 100% pay. Some European countries give up to 24 months. Might be excessive but the 3 months you get in the US is a joke.

US maternity leave is not paid either.

The FMLA leave you get from the government isn't, but every employer I've worked for has given paid maternity leave of varying lengths. I recognize not all employers do, but it's not like it isn't happening in the U.S.

right - I was comparing to Canada and Europe where it is paid by law.
My wife got 4 months paid from work. Now they're letting her work from home part time too. Been fortunate.

lennavan		2012-06-01 03:16:37 PM

Wangiss: Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

Good to know you're doing your part advancing the tall tale from "women" to now "all women" and "hurling acid at them" to "directly onto the FACES."

Deucednuisance		2012-06-01 03:17:36 PM

lennavan: First you will be shocked. Then you will learn something.

How about you just express yourself clearly?

"Writing for comprehension", and all.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:18:14 PM

dr_blasto: I just found it. This is the page it was found on, and the letter the aforementioned Farker posted was added by somebody else by the name of Diane Sugarman. Since it wasn't posted by Nan Hayworth herself or a spokesman, I have to question the veracity of the letter. I find it hard to believe somebody could be so damn callous and genuinely evil.

Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

Oh, I did miss it. Sorry, he's only advocating hurling acid at 13 women. Probably only wants that to hit their toes or something and, true, he didn't mention the pH level recommended in this action-maybe the Farker upthread was right and he just wanted it to be orange juice and simply forgot how to spell 'orange' before he had to post that message in a public forum. That makes this completely different, please accept my apologies ~~for somehow thinking this was actually something bad to say as a spokesman for a congressional campaign~~. I guess we're all good now, right?

Yes, thank you.

Maud Dib		2012-06-01 03:18:34 PM

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:19:34 PM

lennavan: Wangiss: Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

Good to know you're doing your part advancing the tall tale from "women" to now "all women" and "hurling acid at them" to "directly onto the FACES."

You're such a charmer, lennavan. Now what the hell was the point of your post?

mrshowrules		2012-06-01 03:20:25 PM

gulogulo: mrshowrules: Women have a biological condition that hampers their ability to advance in a career.

Well, not all of us want to have babies. And there's still prejudice in the work place, where I've seen women held back from promotions on the -chance- that they might get pregnant. It's not like it's policy, as Wangiss suggests. It's much more insidious, and not so obviously deliberate, but it's there.

Arguably gay men are the ideal employee. Reasons why there are so many of them working in DC. They frequently have less family commitments, can work crazy hours, travel and basically live for work.

I'm a dude and my career is hurting because of my family commitments. I frequently have to miss work for appointments. I'm not flexible in terms of working late and the young childless employees or old people with grown up kids (or no kids) are the ones getting the promotion. You cannot prevent all inequality or discrimination but you address the big gaps and live with the rest. Equal pay for equal work and 12 months paid maternity are a very good start.

/farking all day probably is hurting my career also

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:21:02 PM

Maud Dib: [i865.photobucket.com image 640x266]

Muriatic will give the added benefit of making their farts stink more.

/Worked in an R/C aircraft muffler factory. Yes, really.

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:21:20 PM

mrshowrules: /farking all day probably is hurting my career also

The hell you say?

Brandyelf		2012-06-01 03:22:31 PM

Wangiss: The FMLA leave you get from the government isn't, but every employer I've worked for has given paid maternity leave of varying lengths. I recognize not all employers do, but it's not like it isn't happening in the U.S.

True. When I had my daughter (11 years ago now), it was actually termed "short term disability", and my state (NY) paid some (I forget how much, but it wasn't much) for 6 weeks (8 weeks if you had a c-section). I actually had private short-term disabilty insurance, so I got just about 100% of my pay (they subtracted the pittance the state gave out from what they paid though)

Still... 6 weeks is just not long enough. I was lucky enough to have a "work from home" agreement with the company I was with then (I could bring my daughter with me when I needed to go in) but I don't know many who were that lucky.

Citrate1007		2012-06-01 03:22:33 PM

I need to find myself a conservative woman who considers herself lesser than me...

lennavan		2012-06-01 03:23:44 PM

Wangiss: lennavan: Wangiss: Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

Good to know you're doing your part advancing the tall tale from "women" to now "all women" and "hurling acid at them" to "directly onto the FACES."

You're such a charmer, lennavan. Now what the hell was the point of your post?

Just to make fun of you making the same hyperbole mistake you accused him of. That's all. Neener.

This text is now purple		2012-06-01 03:23:55 PM

qorkfiend: I might, if the Democrats had spent the last 4 years ramping up their violent rhetoric, catering to the extremists in their party, and whipping their supporters into a frenzy.

fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com

Like this?

lennavan		2012-06-01 03:26:21 PM

Deucednuisance: lennavan: First you will be shocked. Then you will learn something.

How about you just express yourself clearly?

"Writing for comprehension", and all.

I'm pretty sure you're the only one who missed the sarcasm. That post was one of a series of posts in what you might consider a "conversation." You missed the sarcasm because you missed the "context." I forgive you.

"Reading for context" and all.

/you didn't google quotation mark punctuation rules, did you? :-(

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:26:40 PM

This text is now purple: qorkfiend: I might, if the Democrats had spent the last 4 years ramping up their violent rhetoric, catering to the extremists in their party, and whipping their supporters into a frenzy.

[fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com image 600x425]

Like this?

That picture covers the last 4 years and clearly shows Democratic politicians doing (something)? Amazing.

SkunkWerks		2012-06-01 03:27:17 PM

qorkfiend: Jackal_N: SkunkWerks: Voting Republican is a learned behavior.

If more people would actually listen to what they say (instead of letting their minister, 1%ers, favorite fear monger, etc. tell them how to vote)
it would become an UNlearned behavior.

...and yes, $40k-a-year Republicans, I'm looking at you.
...and 1%ers are laughing at you.

I think a lot of people have internalized "both sides are bad". They don't even think in those terms; they see a reprehensible act or statement by a politician, and assume that all politicians would act the same way in the same situation.

I think that's an extremely naive way of viewing the world. For one thing, it's a touch too rational for the voting proletariat, whose particular partisan leanings definitely play a factor in which politicians are viewed as the "greater" of all "evils".

Sure, they might say "all politicians are crooks" or "all politicians lie", but at the end of the day, they still play their favorites.

Which is, incidentally, how we get threads like this one.

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:29:28 PM

SkunkWerks: qorkfiend: Jackal_N: SkunkWerks: Voting Republican is a learned behavior.

If more people would actually listen to what they say (instead of letting their minister, 1%ers, favorite fear monger, etc. tell them how to vote)
it would become an UNlearned behavior.

...and yes, $40k-a-year Republicans, I'm looking at you.
...and 1%ers are laughing at you.

I think a lot of people have internalized "both sides are bad". They don't even think in those terms; they see a reprehensible act or statement by a politician, and assume that all politicians would act the same way in the same situation.

I think that's an extremely naive way of viewing the world. For one thing, it's a touch too rational for the voting proletariat, whose particular partisan leanings definitely play a factor in which politicians are viewed as the "greater" of all "evils".

Sure, they might say "all politicians are crooks" or "all politicians lie", but at the end of the day, they still play their favorites.

Which is, incidentally, how we get threads like this one.

Sure. The mindset just brings the parties into balance so they can rationalize playing their favorites, instead of having to explain "Clearly A is worse than B, but I'm voting A anyway" to themselves.

Citrate1007		2012-06-01 03:30:17 PM

dr_blasto:
Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Conservatives have been conditioned this way for so long even their core platform requires cognative dissonance. SMALL GOVERNMENT!!! Okay but why all of the authoritarian penis goes where rape wand legislation? GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF HEALTHCARE!!! Okay, but again with legislating an unecessary proceedure involving a rape wand. STIMULUS BAD WE NEED TAX BREAKS!!! Okay, but most of the stimulus was tax breaks, infact Obama passed one of the largest tax breaks ever that benifited anyone who was working. OBAMA WILL TAKE OUT GUNS Okay, but your guy Mitt has signed in more gun bans as governor than Obama has.

Owell had nothing on these folks.

zenobia		2012-06-01 03:30:17 PM

SkunkWerks: Wangiss: Diogenes: Lost Thought 00: What will his defense be? I've never used Facebook and it's just an overzealous (literally) staffer? It's just an "expression" and I didn't know it had real world implications? This is a liberal MSM media hatchet witch hunt and I never did anything wrong?

I'm going with, "I'm sorry I offended anyone who is sensitive to female assault and disfigurement."

That's perfect!

Nah. Needs more blaming of the "oversensitive"- implied preferably.

Easy fix: "I'm sorry if I offended anyone who is may be sensitive to female assault and disfigurement."

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:34:29 PM

lennavan: Wangiss: lennavan: Wangiss: Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Did you miss it? This tall tale has evolved a lot already, and you're not keeping up. We're not just going to "hurl acid at" certain female Democratic senators, no. Republicans are literally throwing mutilation-pH acid directly onto the FACES of (and this part is thanks to you--thanks for catching it) all women.

This idiot is a douchebag, and so are you.

/And so am I for pointing it out.

Good to know you're doing your part advancing the tall tale from "women" to now "all women" and "hurling acid at them" to "directly onto the FACES."

You're such a charmer, lennavan. Now what the hell was the point of your post?

Just to make fun of you making the same hyperbole mistake you accused him of. That's all. Neener.

Really? Because I got all that crap from this thread. That's what I was talking about. You can actually see it grow, like Biollante, from one guy blowing smoke, getting larger and larger until it's institutional misogynistic hatred, indicative of an undeniable subhuman nature that infects anyone with an R. (I may have added a touch of exaggeration that time, but not much if any.)

100 Watt Walrus		2012-06-01 03:34:30 PM

Kittypie070: ...the very ignorance and illiteracy and misogyny that create the climate for these acid attacks can and does bleed over into the political realm. Nicholas Kristof, the New York Times op-ed columnist who traveled to Pakistan last year to write about acid attacks, put it this way in an essay at the time: "I've been investigating such acid attacks, which are commonly used to terrorize and subjugate women and girls in a swath of Asia from Afghanistan through Cambodia. Because women usually don't matter in this part of the world, their attackers are rarely prosecuted and acid sales are usually not controlled. It's a kind of terrorism that becomes accepted as part of the background noise in the region...

NSFW -- Irum Saeed, 30, poses for a photograph at her office at the Urdu University of Islamabad, Pakistan, Thursday, July 24, 2008

NSFW -- Is this really what we, The United States of America, want in our interior dialogue? REALLY!?

What say we inundate this asshat's inbox with such photos?

Citrate1007		2012-06-01 03:36:29 PM

I also love all of the GOP shills/trolls that are justifying this because he didn't mean all women, just the ones he disagrees with. It is also in no way proper to form a comparisson between this and farkers in the Middle East who often do it to punish or kill wives/daughters that are percieved as being sinful in their eyes.

Yes, be that guy. Be so partisan that you have to defend this guy.

lennavan		2012-06-01 03:36:33 PM

Wangiss: Really? Because I got all that crap from this thread. That's what I was talking about.

He never said ALL women. That's what I was making fun of you about.

Wangiss: You can actually see it grow

Yeah, in your very own post. Neener.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:39:27 PM

Citrate1007: dr_blasto:
Jesus.
Republicans:
Hey, pointing out our blatant racism shows you're the real racist
Hey, pointing out our blatant policies favoring the already exceptionally wealthy people at the expense of the middle class shows you're the one committing class warfare
Hey, pointing out our blatant attacks on women and statements advocating throwing hurling farking acid at them shows YOU are really the one engaging in the war on women.

Orwell would be impressed.

Conservatives have been conditioned this way for so long even their core platform requires cognative dissonance. SMALL GOVERNMENT!!! Okay but why all of the authoritarian penis goes where rape wand legislation? GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF HEALTHCARE!!! Okay, but again with legislating an unecessary proceedure involving a rape wand. STIMULUS BAD WE NEED TAX BREAKS!!! Okay, but most of the stimulus was tax breaks, infact Obama passed one of the largest tax breaks ever that benifited anyone who was working. OBAMA WILL TAKE OUT GUNS Okay, but your guy Mitt has signed in more gun bans as governor than Obama has.

O[r]well had nothing on these folks.

"Okay but why all of the authoritarian penis goes where rape wand legislation?"

Or on you. Thanks for that.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:40:56 PM

Citrate1007: I also love all of the GOP shills/trolls that are justifying this because he didn't mean all women, just the ones he disagrees with. It is also in no way proper to form a comparisson between this and farkers in the Middle East who often do it to punish or kill wives/daughters that are percieved as being sinful in their eyes.

Yes, be that guy. Be so partisan that you have to defend this guy.

Not one single person in this thread has defended this guy. Ever once. At all.

Wangiss		2012-06-01 03:43:57 PM

lennavan: Wangiss: Really? Because I got all that crap from this thread. That's what I was talking about.

He never said ALL women. That's what I was making fun of you about.

Wangiss: You can actually see it grow

Yeah, in your very own post. Neener.

I know he never said all women. Do you understand that I'm talking about things folks in this thread have written and gotten themselves worked up about? I know exactly what he said. I've even quoted it verbatim. You're going on as though I made that shiat up. It's all upthread from well-meaning but overreactionary people.

This guy should be fired, but it's not really my decision. And we won't be seeing him go to jail either. There's a reason for that. Overreactionaries refuse to understand that reason on principle.

Kittypie070		2012-06-01 03:45:12 PM

GO TO SLEEP, winterwhile

qorkfiend		2012-06-01 03:45:24 PM

Wangiss: "Okay but why all of the authoritarian penis goes where rape wand legislation?"

Or on you. Thanks for that.

How would you classify all of the various mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasound laws?

What do you call the insertion of an object into a sexual organ against the wishes of the "patient"? What term would you use when such an action is mandated by a central authority?

mrshowrules		2012-06-01 03:45:29 PM

skullkrusher: mrshowrules: Publikwerks: mrshowrules: lennavan: umad: You're probably right. One gender taking years off from their careers probably doesn't have any affect on the amount of money they make or the rate at which they advance up the ladder. No affect at all.

No no no, I'm starting to rethink things. You're probably right. There is no way to account for that when performing a gender pay gap study. No way at all. All women take years off from their careers to have babies. And they all stay home. All of them. No possible way you could compare women who do not ever take time off or have kids with men who do not take time of or have kids. Nope.

Hold on, I bet you a man would be capable of adjusting for this in a study.

I bet paid maternity and paternity leave would fix this up. You pay a guy to go home with his wife and new baby, I betcha alot would jump on it.

I have two kids (Canada). We get 12 months total. How we split that is between my wife and I. She got the whole 12 month each time. 100% pay. Some European countries give up to 24 months. Might be excessive but the 3 months you get in the US is a joke.

US maternity leave is not paid either.

You are not even paid for those lousy 3 months? It is even worse than I thought.

Bill Murray said I was weird		2012-06-01 03:45:29 PM

I think its rather telling that lordaction refuses to condemn the hateful ideas this man proposed. I guess that means he wholeheartedly condones, agrees, and supports throwing acid on women. Big surprise.

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