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(CNN)   Will history be kind to Bush? If 70s porno flicks are any indication, the answer is "No"   (cnn.com ) divider line
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2012-06-01 06:33:58 AM  
I hate to break it to you all, but two things are inevitable. Bush will come back into style, and so will Mom jeans. Get used to it.
 
2012-06-01 07:44:24 AM  
Trying to work merkin into this but too early.
Hardy har subs.
 
2012-06-01 08:38:46 AM  

weave: I hate to break it to you all, but two things are inevitable. Bush will come back into style, and so will Mom jeans. Get used to it.


I'm sure there was a period in Russia where Stalin saw a resurgence in popularity as well.

Oh yes, I went there.
 
2012-06-01 08:58:45 AM  
i2.cdn.turner.com

Only the best photographers with mad skills have access to these sorts of events.
 
2012-06-01 08:59:52 AM  

weave: Bush will come back into style



Thank goodness, my luscious pubic mane has been a source of embarrassment for too long.
 
2012-06-01 09:01:12 AM  

weave: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Only the best photographers with mad skills have access to these sorts of events.


Actually that would have been a good shot if f it wasn't for the finger.

/hope that's a finger
 
2012-06-01 09:02:30 AM  
How kind will history be to Obama?
Yes...his ass will be kissed for generations by people too lazy to work and have their wealth redistributed.
 
2012-06-01 09:03:07 AM  

Mugato: weave: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Only the best photographers with mad skills have access to these sorts of events.

Actually that would have been a good shot if f it wasn't for the finger.

/hope that's a finger


They could have just totally edited that out. Bush and Obama should be the subject of the photo anyway. No need to have their ball-n'-chains dragging behind. Just crop and have the Presies be front and center.
 
2012-06-01 09:04:40 AM  

Mugato: Actually that would have been a good shot if f it wasn't for the finger.


Exactly. How the hell does a "pro" make that sort of mistake? And what was the "pro" using? Their phone? And what kind of idiot would allow that to be distributed to the pool? And what sort of editor would take that pool photo and post it to their website?
 
2012-06-01 09:15:43 AM  

weave: I hate to break it to you all, but two things are inevitable. Bush will come back into style, and so will Mom jeans. Get used to it.


Hey, I wouldn't mind some bush. It doesn't have to be Chewbacca in a head scissors, but something more than the pedobear approved look.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-01 09:59:57 AM  
Considering the ability of right wing types to reject reality I would expect him to be remembered as the man who got us out of Omaba's Iraq war.
 
2012-06-01 10:00:13 AM  

weave: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

Only the best photographers with mad skills have access to these sorts of events.


That isn't the photographer's finger. He actually caught the hand of God slapping Michelle Obama. This is Pulitzer material...or whatever they give to photographers.
 
2012-06-01 10:11:30 AM  
When I thin 70s bush, I think Lisa De Leeuw.
 
2012-06-01 10:13:12 AM  
St. Reagan was not particularly well appreciated when he left office. But his resume has since been relentlessly polished by the Neocons to the point he wouldn't be allowed to sit in the same room with himself.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-06-01 10:14:50 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: How kind will history be to Obama?
Yes...his ass will be kissed for generations by people too lazy to work and have their wealth redistributed.


It's kind of cute how the white trash clings to the pretense that they do all the work while everyone else is on welfare. It is especially funny when you remember that they live in fear of having their jerbs taken by illiterate illegal aliens from Latin America.
 
2012-06-01 10:21:36 AM  
he will likely be ranked with buchanan and garfield amongst the worst of all time by all but the most right-leaning historians.
 
2012-06-01 10:37:00 AM  

vpb: It's kind of cute how the white trash clings to the pretense that they do all the work while everyone else is on welfare.


And they worship the super rich like rock stars; the same people who not only don't give a shiat about them but would gleefully destroy them if it would raise their stock 1/2 of a point.
 
2012-06-01 11:28:11 AM  
Considering that even the PRESENT has already more or less decided that he was a self-evidently catastrophic f*ckup, I gotta go with "not bloody likely."
 
2012-06-01 12:08:08 PM  
www.adweek.com

/god
//for the win
 
2012-06-01 12:08:52 PM  
no, but history will be kind to the person that packs him into a cannon and fires him far far out into the ocean
 
2012-06-01 12:11:01 PM  
History will give Dubya only what he deserves.
 
2012-06-01 12:12:50 PM  
The Arab Spring would not have been possible if not for the efforts of President Bush, whose heroic stand in Iraq showed the Arabs that Freedom and Democracy can co-exist with their Moslem Faith. Remember how excited the world was to watch Egypt and Libya topple their rulers? And how Farkers cheered on the Green Revolution in Iran? Or even the current situation in Syria. It would not be possible without President Bush's Vision and Steadfast Resolve.
 
2012-06-01 12:15:13 PM  
Southern historical revisionists however will teach their children that he farted rainbows and he had a higher IQ than Einstein.
 
2012-06-01 12:17:42 PM  

Citrate1007: Southern historical revisionists however will teach their children that he farted rainbows and he had a higher IQ than Einstein.


You could make a case for Bush being smarter than Einstein. Yeah, he belonged to a certified genius, but he was still just a dog.
 
2012-06-01 12:18:00 PM  

FlashHarry: he will likely be ranked with buchanan and garfield amongst the worst of all time by all but the most right-leaning historians.


pretty much. bad economy, bad wars, torture, rendition, the "war on terror".... these are the sorts of things that history tends to judge extremely harshly.
 
2012-06-01 12:18:26 PM  
The only good thing Dubya ever did was help America elect the first Black president. And I'm sure his base really appreciates that.
 
2012-06-01 12:18:41 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: How kind will history be to Obama?
Yes...his ass will be kissed for generations by people too lazy to work and have their wealth redistributed.


I'm too lazy to have my wealth redistributed.
 
2012-06-01 12:19:42 PM  
There's already some backpedaling going on.

Now it's "We feel sorry for Bush because he was manipulated by the neocons and Dick Cheney so he wasn't that bad, in fact he might have been a good President if that other stuff hadn't happened."

Pathetic.
 
2012-06-01 12:20:55 PM  

FlashHarry: he will likely be ranked with buchanan and garfield amongst the worst of all time by all but the most right-leaning historians.


Wilson was the worst of all time.

Got us into a war that we had no business. Then refused to stand up to the French over reparations leading to he-whose-name-cannot-be-spoken. Plus, he was racist against blacks. But you libs love him anyway. By your metric, Bush would be one of the greatest presidents of all time.
 
2012-06-01 12:21:23 PM  

whidbey: Now it's "We feel sorry for Bush because he was manipulated by the neocons and Dick Cheney so he wasn't that bad, in fact he might have been a good President if that other stuff hadn't happened."


Funny then, that neoconservatives are so highly overrepresented in the Romney campaign. It's almost like they aren't actually hated by the party, they just make a good scapegoat when things go wrong...
 
2012-06-01 12:22:33 PM  

FuturePastNow: History will give Dubya only what he deserves.


Now if only The Hague would follow suit.
 
2012-06-01 12:23:26 PM  

Shaggy_C: whidbey: Now it's "We feel sorry for Bush because he was manipulated by the neocons and Dick Cheney so he wasn't that bad, in fact he might have been a good President if that other stuff hadn't happened."

Funny then, that neoconservatives are so highly overrepresented in the Romney campaign. It's almost like they aren't actually hated by the party, they just make a good scapegoat when things go wrong...


And the neocons that surround Obama are just peachy...
 
2012-06-01 12:25:22 PM  

Shaggy_C: whidbey: Now it's "We feel sorry for Bush because he was manipulated by the neocons and Dick Cheney so he wasn't that bad, in fact he might have been a good President if that other stuff hadn't happened."

Funny then, that neoconservatives are so highly overrepresented in the Romney campaign. It's almost like they aren't actually hated by the party, they just make a good scapegoat when things go wrong...


I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
2012-06-01 12:26:36 PM  

beta_plus: FlashHarry: he will likely be ranked with buchanan and garfield amongst the worst of all time by all but the most right-leaning historians.

Wilson was the worst of all time.

Got us into a war that we had no business. Then refused to stand up to the French over reparations leading to he-whose-name-cannot-be-spoken. Plus, he was racist against blacks. But you libs love him anyway. By your metric, Bush would be one of the greatest presidents of all time.


I have honestly never heard Woodrow Wilson praised as a great President by anyone of any political persuasion.
 
2012-06-01 12:26:44 PM  

rohar: And the neocons that surround Obama are just peachy...


What is this I don't even. Neoconservatives are leftists from the 1960 and 70s who moved into the Republican camp after becoming disillusioned with the 'peacenik hippy' stance that the party took during the Nixon years. Obama surrounds himself with some of the traditional leftists, yes, but how the fark can they be neoconservatives if they're still in the Democrat camp?
 
2012-06-01 12:27:00 PM  

TabASlotB: AbbeySomeone: Trying to work merkin into this but too early.
Hardy har subs.

In U.S.A, a merkin is a terrible excuse for a bush. [redacted? previously something along the lines of: "In '80s-era USSR"], Bush is a terrible excuse for a 'Merican?

/first thing that came to mind...


I guess the filter doesn't appreciate the great Yakov Smirnoff and his famed Russian Reversal style jokes. Phooey, I say. Phooey!
 
2012-06-01 12:31:04 PM  
 
2012-06-01 12:32:32 PM  
Why is CNN so terrible? What is it in their makeup that just makes them publish the stupidest f*cking stuff in the universe?
 
2012-06-01 12:33:55 PM  

Shaggy_C: The Arab Spring would not have been possible if not for the efforts of President Bush, whose heroic stand in Iraq showed the Arabs that Freedom and Democracy can co-exist with their Moslem Faith. Remember how excited the world was to watch Egypt and Libya topple their rulers? And how Farkers cheered on the Green Revolution in Iran? Or even the current situation in Syria. It would not be possible without President Bush's Vision and Steadfast Resolve.


I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, but you're unintentionally correct.

You would not have gotten to the Arab Spring without the fall of Saddam Hussein. Once the rest of the Arab world saw Iraqis voting in free elections, it dispelled the myth that the Arab world couldn't have democracy. That directly led to the Cedar Revolution in Lebanon in 2005.

But don't take my word for it. Walid Jumblatt, the Lebanese Druze leader said as much at the time:

"It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq," explains Jumblatt. "I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world." Jumblatt says this spark of democratic revolt is spreading. "The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing. The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it."


Now, the problem with the Arab Spring is that it's the Islamists that are gaining power in free elections. It could be that the Arab Spring descends into an Islamist Winter. Or maybe now that the Islamists have to actually produce results rather than just criticize they'll lose their luster with the "Arab street." Or maybe some of both.

But the invasion of Iraq is the antecedent to the Arab Spring. Does that mean that history will judge the war in Iraq more kindly? Probably, but the fact that Bush made his case based on WMDs that were never found will always be a historical fact. Had Bush pushed more strongly on the humanitarian case, maybe he would have done better.

But if I were to put money on it, I'd put good money on Bush being treated more kindly by history than by his contemporary critics. But that's not saying a hell of a lot.
 
2012-06-01 12:34:02 PM  
In my experience, I'm finding that the worst Dubya revisionists are usually Paultards. You know most of them voted for Bush; probably twice, and now they get to conveniently switch allegiances and claim to have all the solutions, after directly contributing to creating so many of the problems.
 
2012-06-01 12:34:29 PM  
I've had it with "Bu-bu-bu-Brazilian!"

/We get it. You want to cut down the rain forest.
 
2012-06-01 12:34:58 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Why is CNN so terrible? What is it in their makeup that just makes them publish the stupidest f*cking stuff in the universe?


They're trying to beat FOX News at their own game.
 
2012-06-01 12:35:15 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Why is CNN so terrible? What is it in their makeup that just makes them publish the stupidest f*cking stuff in the universe?


They're Corporate McNews.

I mean they came up 30 minutes of marketable soundbites and called it "CNN Headline News."

I gave up on them during the first Gulf War.
 
2012-06-01 12:35:56 PM  

Zerochance: In my experience, I'm finding that the worst Dubya revisionists are usually Paultards. You know most of them voted for Bush; probably twice, and now they get to conveniently switch allegiances and claim to have all the solutions, after directly contributing to creating so many of the problems.


They were old enough to vote?
 
2012-06-01 12:37:08 PM  

Shaggy_C: rohar: And the neocons that surround Obama are just peachy...

What is this I don't even. Neoconservatives are leftists from the 1960 and 70s who moved into the Republican camp after becoming disillusioned with the 'peacenik hippy' stance that the party took during the Nixon years. Obama surrounds himself with some of the traditional leftists, yes, but how the fark can they be neoconservatives if they're still in the Democrat camp?


Sure, if you ignore what happened in the Republican party about 1910 to 1920. The split between the Neocons and Paleaocons happened then, not the 1960s. Yes, after the split the divergence was even greater but that's kinda the normal course of things.

History with evangelical churches, liberal foreign policy, propping up large industries, reducing the federal payrolls, advancing racial tolerance. Ok, that last one the republican neocons seem to have forgotten, but how are these not typical of the neocon playbook?
 
2012-06-01 12:37:22 PM  

Snarfangel: Zerochance: In my experience, I'm finding that the worst Dubya revisionists are usually Paultards. You know most of them voted for Bush; probably twice, and now they get to conveniently switch allegiances and claim to have all the solutions, after directly contributing to creating so many of the problems.

They were old enough to vote?


You'd be surprised that many of them probably also voted Perot, THEN Bush.
 
2012-06-01 12:37:29 PM  

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears: Why is CNN so terrible? What is it in their makeup that just makes them publish the stupidest f*cking stuff in the universe?


Because it's not about *news*; it's about attracting viewers 24 hours/day. If pablum sells, hell, they'd be fools not to push pablum.
 
2012-06-01 12:41:07 PM  

taxandspend: Did this article say the financial collapse was out of his control? Because I'm pretty sure that was something that could have been stopped.

/also 9/11, that could have been stopped as well


What "financial collapse?" He gave the rich the tax breaks they deserved and rewarded big business for creating jobs and what happens....millions of people decide to become hippie slackers and quit looking for work.
 
2012-06-01 12:42:18 PM  
Number of times America was attacked on its own soil under Bush: 1
Number of times America was attacked on its own soil under Obama: 0

Number of Osama bin Ladens killed by Bush: 0
Number of Osama bin Ladens killed by Obama: 1

Number of times the economy tanked the worst in 70 years under Bush: 1
Number of times the economy tanked the worst in 70 years under Obama: 0
 
2012-06-01 12:42:18 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: I have honestly never heard Woodrow Wilson praised as a great President by anyone of any political persuasion.


he's ranked in the first quartile by most historians.
 
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