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(The New York Times)   Reason #3187 why Mayor Bloomberg needs to be punched in the face by a hobo with barbed wire for knuckles   ( nytimes.com) divider line
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2012-05-31 11:39:34 PM  
Jon Stewart tore this up tonight. Awesome.
 
2012-06-01 12:09:00 AM  
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2012-06-01 12:10:55 AM  

make me some tea: Jon Stewart tore this up tonight. Awesome.


Agreed.

Considering the public backlash to this (moreso than the smoking and trans fat thing). Do you think NYC will still be stupid enough to move forward with this?
 
2012-06-01 12:11:14 AM  
yep, no less of a stupid idea than when we talked about it earlier today
 
2012-06-01 12:11:50 AM  
Maybe if they put in REAL SUGAR instead of that HFCS crap, people wouldn't obese so quickly.
 
2012-06-01 12:12:55 AM  
You know what I'll be the odd man out and admit it:

I actually thought turning part of Broadway into a pedestrian mall was a good idea.

This on the other hand...
 
2012-06-01 12:13:20 AM  
www.nobodygoeshere.com
 
2012-06-01 12:13:41 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Maybe if they put in REAL SUGAR instead of that HFCS crap, people wouldn't obese so quickly.


I already miss my Kosher coke.
 
2012-06-01 12:14:09 AM  
Why can't we just make really fat people illegal? That seems like it gets to the root of the problem so much better.
 
2012-06-01 12:15:10 AM  
Fu(k, tax it, don't ban it. shiat. People can go back to the soda fountain for 2nds, 3rds, 4ths etc..
 
2012-06-01 12:15:38 AM  

Mrtraveler01: I already miss my Kosher coke.


Well, of course! HFCS us pretty hard to snort.
 
2012-06-01 12:16:00 AM  
I don't drink very much sugary soda but I drink a lot of red wine. There's a lot of sugar in wine right? How does a glass of Merlot compare to a Coca-Cola? Should we ban wine too because of all the sugar? Actually I think orange juice has a lot of sugar too. Should that be banned?
 
2012-06-01 12:16:13 AM  
Tyranny....it's good for the body.
 
2012-06-01 12:16:29 AM  

zarberg: Why can't we just make really fat people illegal? That seems like it gets to the root of the problem so much better.


Might as well just institute a ban on people from Mississippi.

Never seen so many fatasses in one spot.
 
2012-06-01 12:18:05 AM  
"New York City is not about wringing your hands; it's about doing something," he said.

So...New Yorkers will handle this themselves by being active and choosing smaller sizes themselves? Oh, not what you meant, I guess.
 
2012-06-01 12:19:12 AM  
I didn't realize obesity was such a problem in NYC. I thought the only fat people there were tourists.
 
2012-06-01 12:19:50 AM  

Mrtraveler01: make me some tea: Jon Stewart tore this up tonight. Awesome.

Agreed.

Considering the public backlash to this (moreso than the smoking and trans fat thing). Do you think NYC will still be stupid enough to move forward with this?


There are a lot of stupid laws here. People just work around them, that's all. This will be no different.
 
2012-06-01 12:21:17 AM  
As a smoker who has put up with far more abuse from the government my immediate reaction to this, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Hey, your bad health choices are costing me money, biatches. That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth, I don't want to hear your whining.
 
2012-06-01 12:21:59 AM  
So soda is bad, but milkshakes and alcoholic beverages are okay? Anyone feel like comparing the calories per equal volume on those?
 
2012-06-01 12:22:26 AM  

OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,


No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.
 
2012-06-01 12:23:16 AM  

make me some tea: breath


breathe, even
 
2012-06-01 12:24:04 AM  

Ramien: So soda is bad, but milkshakes and alcoholic beverages are okay? Anyone feel like comparing the calories per equal volume on those?


Not to mention the massive calorie-and-sugar bombs they sell at Starbucks. They're basically dessert but people will suck one down inside of an hour.
 
2012-06-01 12:24:12 AM  

make me some tea: OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,

No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.


I see you beat me to it.
 
2012-06-01 12:24:48 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Maybe if they put in REAL SUGAR instead of that HFCS crap, people wouldn't obese so quickly.


Maybe if people exercised more frequently, they "wouldn't obese" at all, regardless of the crap they put into their bodies.
 
2012-06-01 12:24:57 AM  

OgreMagi: As a smoker who has put up with far more abuse from the government my immediate reaction to this, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Hey, your bad health choices are costing me money, biatches. That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth, I don't want to hear your whining.


it's almost as if you directly blame people who consume sugary sodas for smoking bans. That's some wicked stoopid misdirected anger, mister.
 
2012-06-01 12:25:41 AM  

wedding vegetables: Ramien: So soda is bad, but milkshakes and alcoholic beverages are okay? Anyone feel like comparing the calories per equal volume on those?

Not to mention the massive calorie-and-sugar bombs they sell at Starbucks. They're basically dessert but people will suck one down inside of an hour.


how long does it take you to eat dessert?
 
2012-06-01 12:25:43 AM  
I agree with OgreMagi. It was fine and dandy to treat us smokers like garbage and tax the crap out of us and push us outside. Its even gone so far as to ban having a separate building with separate ventilation if it is a restaurant.

Now they are coming after other things that they consider unhealthy. Sucks to be you I guess?

That said, why do people keep voting this fascist piece of shiat in as mayor? Do New Yorkers crave being controlled and ordered around like slaves?
 
2012-06-01 12:25:59 AM  
*shrugs*

Good.
 
2012-06-01 12:26:00 AM  
Subby sounds fat
 
2012-06-01 12:26:47 AM  

jenlen: That said, why do people keep voting this fascist piece of shiat in as mayor? Do New Yorkers crave being controlled and ordered around like slaves?


maybe it's because we leave the over the top drama to the Broadway types.
 
2012-06-01 12:30:02 AM  

make me some tea: OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,

No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.


The study on second hand smoke showed that environmental factors have a far greater impact on your health than my smoking. All those cars on the road you are walking next to put out more pollution just starting up than my smoking. Besides, I'm not smoking around you, so my bad habit has absolutely no impact on you, unlike your car, you gaia killing bastard.
 
2012-06-01 12:31:23 AM  

jenlen: Do New Yorkers crave being controlled and ordered around like slaves?


They live in New York City, so we have ample evidence that they are severely brain damaged.
 
2012-06-01 12:31:35 AM  

OgreMagi: make me some tea: OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,

No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.

The study on second hand smoke showed that environmental factors have a far greater impact on your health than my smoking. All those cars on the road you are walking next to put out more pollution just starting up than my smoking. Besides, I'm not smoking around you, so my bad habit has absolutely no impact on you, unlike your car, you gaia killing bastard.


So I should breathe in your smoke if I want to go out to a bar or to get something to eat?
 
2012-06-01 12:32:14 AM  

skullkrusher: OgreMagi: As a smoker who has put up with far more abuse from the government my immediate reaction to this, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Hey, your bad health choices are costing me money, biatches. That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth, I don't want to hear your whining.

it's almost as if you directly blame people who consume sugary sodas for smoking bans. That's some wicked stoopid misdirected anger, mister.


No, I blame people who think having the government control every aspect of our daily lives is a good idea.
 
2012-06-01 12:33:32 AM  

OgreMagi: jenlen: Do New Yorkers crave being controlled and ordered around like slaves?

They live in New York City, so we have ample evidence that they are severely brain damaged.


Well your replies here and your profile put you on my Favorited list anyways :)
 
2012-06-01 12:33:48 AM  

OgreMagi: skullkrusher: OgreMagi: As a smoker who has put up with far more abuse from the government my immediate reaction to this, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Hey, your bad health choices are costing me money, biatches. That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth, I don't want to hear your whining.

it's almost as if you directly blame people who consume sugary sodas for smoking bans. That's some wicked stoopid misdirected anger, mister.

No, I blame people who think having the government control every aspect of our daily lives is a good idea.


It's a choice between voting for people who want to tell us how to eat and drink or voting for people who want to tell us how to pray and think.

Kind of a catch 22 there.
 
2012-06-01 12:34:17 AM  
Again?

didn't Bloomberg do this yesterday too?

according to fark he did.
 
2012-06-01 12:34:27 AM  
Soda thread morphed into smoking thread.
 
2012-06-01 12:34:47 AM  

OgreMagi: skullkrusher: OgreMagi: As a smoker who has put up with far more abuse from the government my immediate reaction to this, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Hey, your bad health choices are costing me money, biatches. That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth, I don't want to hear your whining.

it's almost as if you directly blame people who consume sugary sodas for smoking bans. That's some wicked stoopid misdirected anger, mister.

No, I blame people who think having the government control every aspect of our daily lives is a good idea.


and there's some sort of significant overlap between those nanny staters and people who drink a jug o' Coke a day?
 
2012-06-01 12:35:40 AM  

Mrtraveler01: OgreMagi: make me some tea: OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,

No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.

The study on second hand smoke showed that environmental factors have a far greater impact on your health than my smoking. All those cars on the road you are walking next to put out more pollution just starting up than my smoking. Besides, I'm not smoking around you, so my bad habit has absolutely no impact on you, unlike your car, you gaia killing bastard.

So I should breathe in your smoke if I want to go out to a bar or to get something to eat?


Smoking isn't allowed in bars and restaurants in my state. However, I think it should be up to the owner to decide, and for you to choose to go to a establishment that allows smoking or one that bans it.

And move your fat ass over. You're crowding my space on the buses and planes. And I would appreciate it if you would find somewhere else to waddle. You're too fat to walk around and you walk too slow.
 
2012-06-01 12:35:41 AM  

king of vegas: Soda thread morphed into smoking thread.


Yep.

Because people know there are second hand effects when I drink a soda.

/rolls eyes
 
2012-06-01 12:35:42 AM  

Mrtraveler01: OgreMagi: make me some tea: OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,

No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.

The study on second hand smoke showed that environmental factors have a far greater impact on your health than my smoking. All those cars on the road you are walking next to put out more pollution just starting up than my smoking. Besides, I'm not smoking around you, so my bad habit has absolutely no impact on you, unlike your car, you gaia killing bastard.

So I should breathe in your smoke if I want to go out to a bar or to get something to eat?


if you go to a bar that allows smoking, sounds like yer axin for it ;)
 
2012-06-01 12:35:50 AM  

Ramien: So soda is bad, but milkshakes and alcoholic beverages are okay? Anyone feel like comparing the calories per equal volume on those?


If sodas can't be too big, then the next thing is to ban steaks (more than 6 oz).
 
2012-06-01 12:36:38 AM  

OgreMagi: And move your fat ass over. You're crowding my space on the buses and planes. And I would appreciate it if you would find somewhere else to waddle. You're too fat to walk around and you walk too slow


You don't even know what I look like do you?
 
2012-06-01 12:36:52 AM  
But Bloomberg has no problems with you stuffing doughnuts down your throat...well as long as they are trans-fat free i guess. Link
 
2012-06-01 12:37:44 AM  

skullkrusher: OgreMagi: skullkrusher: OgreMagi: As a smoker who has put up with far more abuse from the government my immediate reaction to this, "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

Hey, your bad health choices are costing me money, biatches. That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth, I don't want to hear your whining.

it's almost as if you directly blame people who consume sugary sodas for smoking bans. That's some wicked stoopid misdirected anger, mister.

No, I blame people who think having the government control every aspect of our daily lives is a good idea.

and there's some sort of significant overlap between those nanny staters and people who drink a jug o' Coke a day?


Since the smoking taxes were passed by referendum here, I'd say, yes there is.

/and there's yet another cigarette tax on the ballot for the next election.
 
2012-06-01 12:37:46 AM  

OgreMagi: make me some tea: OgreMagi: That's the argument you guys used to justify banning smoking everyone and taxing the holy shiat out of cigarettes, so shut your farking mouth,

No, it's not. It's because your smoke negatively affects the health of nonsmokers who have to breath it.

The study on second hand smoke showed that environmental factors have a far greater impact on your health than my smoking. All those cars on the road you are walking next to put out more pollution just starting up than my smoking. Besides, I'm not smoking around you, so my bad habit has absolutely no impact on you, unlike your car, you gaia killing bastard.


Um. Bullshiat.

/former smoker
 
2012-06-01 12:38:38 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Ramien: So soda is bad, but milkshakes and alcoholic beverages are okay? Anyone feel like comparing the calories per equal volume on those?

If sodas can't be too big, then the next thing is to ban steaks (more than 6 oz).


This will be bad news for the 96er.

Link
 
2012-06-01 12:39:06 AM  
As liberal as I may be (and I'm pretty liberal), I'm against the proposal as it is. It's just too easy to create a situation where the law causes more problems than it's worth.

If someone wants to eat crap and stuff themselves with garbage, that's their prerogative. But I like the idea that the government takes a more proactive role in promoting good health when it's done right. The smoking indoors ban is a perfect example. Secondhand smoke in a closed environment stinks, the butts stink, your clothes stink, it's harmful to others, and smoking causes health problems.

Obesity is a real problem from all the deaths it causes, etc, but it's trickier to address. A good law was forcing the fast food people to post the caloric information of all their food on the wall of each restaurant. Some customers pay attention and adjust their diet, or order something different altogether. This ban would just cause confusion and headaches.
 
2012-06-01 12:39:45 AM  
Just another way Republicans are getting government out of our lives.
 
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