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2012-05-31 11:20:25 PM
Uh... the guns were never out of ET.

Sure, Spielberg did the much-ballyhooed remaster, but disc 2 of the DVD Set was the original 1982 version of the movie, guns and all.

ET was never like Star Wars, where Lucas just refuses to put the damn original versions out because of spite. The original version of ET was never missing... it was just on the down low.
 
2012-06-01 12:21:59 AM
Just in time to sell blu-rays before that medium dies out.
 
2012-06-01 03:19:37 AM
Old news is so exciting!
 
2012-06-01 03:24:08 AM
I feel really sorry for the people whose memories of their childhoods were ruined by the absence of guns in the hands of the policemen chasing Elliot and E.T. Looking back, though, the penis breath comment is a bit vulgar for kids. I didn't get it at the time because I was 6-7 years old, but the implication is that his brother had blown someone.
 
2012-06-01 03:27:42 AM

jaylectricity: Just in time to sell blu-rays before that medium dies out.


Indeed. I'm sure this is in no way an attempt to cash in on yet another version.
 
2012-06-01 03:28:14 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Uh... the guns were never out of ET.

Sure, Spielberg did the much-ballyhooed remaster, but disc 2 of the DVD Set was the original 1982 version of the movie, guns and all.

ET was never like Star Wars, where Lucas just refuses to put the damn original versions out because of spite. The original version of ET was never missing... it was just on the down low.


Shut the fark up. Seriously. Lucas put out the originals on DVD a few years ago.

I tried to watch People Vs George Lucas a few weeks back.

Do you know what I saw? Spoiled farking whiny biatchy losers.

Tolkien changed an entire chapter of the original Hobbit to make it fit with LOTR.

You didn't know that? Guess why? You were born DECADES after the first version.All you now is Tolkien's final vision.

Guess what? Decades after you are gone-the kids who follow Star Wars will watch it from episode I to VI and farking enjoy themselves. And they will also have the fantastic Clone Wars to watch as well!

No farking kid knows who E.T. these days. But they know who farking Yoda is, biaches!
 
2012-06-01 03:49:22 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Tolkien changed an entire chapter of the original Hobbit to make it fit with LOTR.


And that's OK, 'cause unlike Lucas, Tolkien could write.
 
2012-06-01 03:53:44 AM
E.T. 2: The trigger finger glows again...
 
2012-06-01 03:55:25 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Darth_Lukecash: Tolkien changed an entire chapter of the original Hobbit to make it fit with LOTR.

And that's OK, 'cause unlike Lucas, Tolkien could write.


He was probably a better director, too.
 
2012-06-01 03:58:11 AM

Darth_Lukecash: FirstNationalBastard: Uh... the guns were never out of ET.

Sure, Spielberg did the much-ballyhooed remaster, but disc 2 of the DVD Set was the original 1982 version of the movie, guns and all.

ET was never like Star Wars, where Lucas just refuses to put the damn original versions out because of spite. The original version of ET was never missing... it was just on the down low.

Shut the fark up. Seriously. Lucas put out the originals on DVD a few years ago.

I tried to watch People Vs George Lucas a few weeks back.

Do you know what I saw? Spoiled farking whiny biatchy losers.

Tolkien changed an entire chapter of the original Hobbit to make it fit with LOTR.

You didn't know that? Guess why? You were born DECADES after the first version.All you now is Tolkien's final vision.

Guess what? Decades after you are gone-the kids who follow Star Wars will watch it from episode I to VI and farking enjoy themselves. And they will also have the fantastic Clone Wars to watch as well!

No farking kid knows who E.T. these days. But they know who farking Yoda is, biaches!


He's not going to sleep with you.

Truth be told, I'm not much of a Star Wars fan. The first time I ever saw the original trilogy was the '97 Special Editions. My childhood wasn't raped, nor was it even touched inappropriately in the no-no zone.

However, there is a large group of people who want the ORIGINAL original trilogy released... not just some shiatty non-anamorphic laser disc master from the early 1990s, but a true HD, Anamorphic Widescreen master of the movies they saw as kids.

Lucas knows this, and refuses to make it happen, even though he has to know it would make him money and earn him quite a bit of goodwill from the people who used to buy his stuff.

So, what other reason, other than spite or "I'm right and your wrong and these are my toys and you can't play with them!" is there for not cleaning up an original print of the movies and releasing them for the large, vocal group of people who want to see them?
 
zez
2012-06-01 03:59:40 AM

NorCalLos: Looking back, though, the penis breath comment is a bit vulgar for kids.


I remember watching E.T. with my college girlfriend and she whispered in my ear that she, "didn't mind penis breath"
 
2012-06-01 04:48:18 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Shut the fark up. Seriously. Lucas put out the originals on DVD a few years ago.


No he didn't. He put out a horrible quality transfer from the 1993 laserdisc release.
 
2012-06-01 04:48:27 AM

Darth_Lukecash: Shut the fark up. Seriously. Lucas put out the originals on DVD a few years ago.


In crappy non-anamorphic format that basically cuts down the vertical resolution of the actual movie part of the picture down from 480 lines to something like 250 lines due to the black bars at the top and bottom being encoded in the movie. The upshot of this is that basically watching some of the most important films of the 20th century as they were originally released on my 55" HDTV in what is basically the same quality as a YouTube video at the lowest setting.
 
2012-06-01 05:05:38 AM
There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link
 
2012-06-01 05:23:13 AM

Darth_Lukecash: You didn't know that? Guess why? You were born DECADES after the first version.


This makes you what, 87? Being young is not a barrier to knowing things that happened in the past.
 
2012-06-01 07:03:32 AM

Skyfrog: There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link


As far as I know, the last true IB Technicolor prints were done for The Godfather Part II in 1974. The only surviving 35mm/70mm Blow-up prints of the original Star Wars would only be in Eastman Color. And, sad to say, they would've faded completely to magenta by now. The only possible place an "immaculate" copy of the OCN exists would be in the Lucasfilm Archives. I don't think 20th Century Fox has a copy in their archives any more, GL most likely bought it from them. Which means, we won't get a proper release of the original version until Lucas dies.

Ideally, I'd love to see a 3-disc Criterion release of Star Wars. Disc 1 would be the original theatrical cut. Disc 2 would have the infamous "Lost Cut." Disc 3 would hold the usual behind-the-scenes stuff & Criterion's usual critical evaluations/appreciations of the film.
 
2012-06-01 07:03:38 AM

Hand Banana: Darth_Lukecash: Shut the fark up. Seriously. Lucas put out the originals on DVD a few years ago.

No he didn't. He put out a horrible quality transfer from the 1993 laserdisc release.


I own this box set so i can concur they are crappy quality

Just download this people

The Force is strong with this one
 
2012-06-01 07:47:20 AM

zez: NorCalLos: Looking back, though, the penis breath comment is a bit vulgar for kids.

I remember watching E.T. with my college girlfriend and she whispered in my ear that she, "didn't mind penis breath"


And then you blew her?
 
2012-06-01 07:56:16 AM
Because here in New Rome there can never be enough implied or potential violence in kids' movies.

/E.T., I've never seen it and hope I never will.
 
2012-06-01 08:14:13 AM

Allansfirebird: Skyfrog: There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link

As far as I know, the last true IB Technicolor prints were done for The Godfather Part II in 1974. The only surviving 35mm/70mm Blow-up prints of the original Star Wars would only be in Eastman Color. And, sad to say, they would've faded completely to magenta by now. The only possible place an "immaculate" copy of the OCN exists would be in the Lucasfilm Archives. I don't think 20th Century Fox has a copy in their archives any more, GL most likely bought it from them. Which means, we won't get a proper release of the original version until Lucas dies.


I really don't care about this issue that much -- I don't feel that Lucas raped my childhood -- but I imagine that the first step in the 1997 restoration was to create a new print, and that print is what went under a film to digital conversion so that the new digital special effects could be added. The print was then stuck in the archives. So in the theory, that print could be run through the Lowry digital restoration process and further enhanced.

And let's keep in mind the highly successful restorations done to films in really terrible condition, such as Vertigo, which was on the brink of being lost.
 
2012-06-01 08:21:21 AM

thornhill: Allansfirebird: Skyfrog: There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link

As far as I know, the last true IB Technicolor prints were done for The Godfather Part II in 1974. The only surviving 35mm/70mm Blow-up prints of the original Star Wars would only be in Eastman Color. And, sad to say, they would've faded completely to magenta by now. The only possible place an "immaculate" copy of the OCN exists would be in the Lucasfilm Archives. I don't think 20th Century Fox has a copy in their archives any more, GL most likely bought it from them. Which means, we won't get a proper release of the original version until Lucas dies.


I really don't care about this issue that much -- I don't feel that Lucas raped my childhood -- but I imagine that the first step in the 1997 restoration was to create a new print, and that print is what went under a film to digital conversion so that the new digital special effects could be added. The print was then stuck in the archives. So in the theory, that print could be run through the Lowry digital restoration process and further enhanced.

And let's keep in mind the highly successful restorations done to films in really terrible condition, such as Vertigo, which was on the brink of being lost.


Citizen Kane's current HD master was created from worn out theater prints, because all original elements have been lost over time. Same goes for Sunset Boulevard. My Fair Lady was resurrected in the mid-90s from various surviving elements. Hell, even Manos: The Hands of Fate is getting a beautiful HD Remaster from newly recovered elements.

Lucas's story of the original version being unavailable just doesn't hold water.
 
2012-06-01 08:35:43 AM
Also, it's important for kids to get the message that when they go hunting for space creatures and little boys, the cops will bring rifles. Just in case they need to kill something.
 
2012-06-01 08:40:10 AM
I am watching this:

www.panelsonpages.com

so I am getting a kick out of this thread.
 
2012-06-01 08:41:58 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: I am watching this:

[www.panelsonpages.com image 529x654]

so I am getting a kick out of this thread.


Hey, I started this, and I'm not even a Star Wars freak.

/As for ET... I wish they would do a proper ET Video Game... none of that Atari dropping down holes shiat.
 
2012-06-01 08:55:34 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Jim from Saint Paul: I am watching this:

[www.panelsonpages.com image 529x654]

so I am getting a kick out of this thread.

Hey, I started this, and I'm not even a Star Wars freak.

/As for ET... I wish they would do a proper ET Video Game... none of that Atari dropping down holes shiat.


There is no "proper" ET game. There are no elements there to make any knid of game that isn't as dumb as the original.
 
2012-06-01 08:57:41 AM

thornhill: Allansfirebird: Skyfrog: There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link

As far as I know, the last true IB Technicolor prints were done for The Godfather Part II in 1974. The only surviving 35mm/70mm Blow-up prints of the original Star Wars would only be in Eastman Color. And, sad to say, they would've faded completely to magenta by now. The only possible place an "immaculate" copy of the OCN exists would be in the Lucasfilm Archives. I don't think 20th Century Fox has a copy in their archives any more, GL most likely bought it from them. Which means, we won't get a proper release of the original version until Lucas dies.


I really don't care about this issue that much -- I don't feel that Lucas raped my childhood -- but I imagine that the first step in the 1997 restoration was to create a new print, and that print is what went under a film to digital conversion so that the new digital special effects could be added. The print was then stuck in the archives. So in the theory, that print could be run through the Lowry digital restoration process and further enhanced.

And let's keep in mind the highly successful restorations done to films in really terrible condition, such as Vertigo, which was on the brink of being lost.


One of my favorite commentary tracks is the one on the Vertigo DVD with Robert Harris and Jim Katz where they discuss the restoration of the film. IIRC, the only color reference they had for the correct color timing was a pristine sample of the paint color from the car that Kim Novak drives in the film. There's still a bunch of problems with that restoration that they mention. Some scenes they couldn't eliminate all of the yellow saturation problems due to insufficient funding. Sections of the last 20 minutes were taken from as far away as a 8th generation copy of the original print, that's why the contrast is still spotty. I think Vertigo was the second most difficult restoration project RAH undertook, after Lawrence of Arabia.

Very relevant username, BTW, thornhill.
 
2012-06-01 09:05:58 AM

Allansfirebird:

One of my favorite commentary tracks is the one on the Vertigo DVD with Robert Harris and Jim Katz where they discuss the restoration of the film. IIRC, the only color reference they had for the correct color timing was a pristine sample of the paint color from the car that Kim Novak drives in the film. There's still a bunch of problems with that restoration that they mention. Some scenes they couldn't eliminate all of the yellow saturation problems due to insufficient funding. Sections of the last 20 minutes were taken from as far away as a 8th generation copy of the orig ...


I loved his Yellow Layer Failure column at Digital Bits. And his commentaries on restoration are great.

He was also involved with the My Fair Lady restoration and commentary.
 
2012-06-01 09:21:52 AM

FirstNationalBastard: thornhill: Allansfirebird: Skyfrog: There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link

As far as I know, the last true IB Technicolor prints were done for The Godfather Part II in 1974. The only surviving 35mm/70mm Blow-up prints of the original Star Wars would only be in Eastman Color. And, sad to say, they would've faded completely to magenta by now. The only possible place an "immaculate" copy of the OCN exists would be in the Lucasfilm Archives. I don't think 20th Century Fox has a copy in their archives any more, GL most likely bought it from them. Which means, we won't get a proper release of the original version until Lucas dies.


I really don't care about this issue that much -- I don't feel that Lucas raped my childhood -- but I imagine that the first step in the 1997 restoration was to create a new print, and that print is what went under a film to digital conversion so that the new digital special effects could be added. The print was then stuck in the archives. So in the theory, that print could be run through the Lowry digital restoration process and further enhanced.

And let's keep in mind the highly successful restorations done to films in really terrible condition, such as Vertigo, which was on the brink of being lost.

Citizen Kane's current HD master was created from worn out theater prints, because all original elements have been lost over time. Same goes for Sunset Boulevard. My Fair Lady was resurrected in the mid-90s from various surviving elements. Hell, even Manos: The Hands of Fate is getting a beautiful HD Remaster from newly recovered elements.

Lucas's story of the original version being unavailable just doesn't hold water.


After the brilliant work done for the recent North by Northwest restoration, it seems like there is no limit on what the Lowry process can do. So yes, it seems likely that with a million or two dollars and access to everything in the LucasFilm and Fox vaults, a high quality restored print of the 1977 release could be created.
 
2012-06-01 09:28:26 AM

Allansfirebird: One of my favorite commentary tracks is the one on the Vertigo DVD with Robert Harris and Jim Katz where they discuss the restoration of the film. IIRC, the only color reference they had for the correct color timing was a pristine sample of the paint color from the car that Kim Novak drives in the film. There's still a bunch of problems with that restoration that they mention. Some scenes they couldn't eliminate all of the yellow saturation problems due to insufficient funding. Sections of the last 20 minutes were taken from as far away as a 8th generation copy of the original print, that's why the contrast is still spotty. I think Vertigo was the second most difficult restoration project RAH undertook, after Lawrence of Arabia.

Very relevant username, BTW, thornhill.


The flashback scene was also highly problematic, as well as the audio in general.

Hopefully for the eventual Blu-ray release the latest technology will be used to make additional improvements.

Robert Harris also deserves lots of praise for the Rear Window restoration. I got to see a 35mm print of it -- absolutely amazing. The current DVD version fails to capture how vivid the colors are. Hopefully the delay in the Blu-ray release (as well as other Hitchcock films) means that Universal is doing additional restoration work (The Birds, for instance, is being restored).
 
2012-06-01 09:42:28 AM
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YEE HAW!!
 
2012-06-01 10:57:01 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: There is no "proper" ET game. There are no elements there to make any knid of game that isn't as dumb as the original.


You just can't make it vermicious enough.
 
2012-06-01 11:16:50 AM
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Also, Han Solo shot first!
 
2012-06-01 11:30:52 AM
 
2012-06-01 11:33:07 AM
These people are not "raping your childhood". They are making your adulthood suck. Your childhood was great.
 
2012-06-01 12:08:19 PM

zez: I remember watching E.T. with my college girlfriend and she whispered in my ear that she, "didn't mind penis breath"


So she was okay with you liking the cawk?
 
2012-06-01 01:25:03 PM

EnderX: Also, Han Solo shot first!


Technically, the only shot was Han's.
 
2012-06-01 03:37:37 PM
Hopefully the Blu-Ray has some boardroom footage of the guy who said they couldn't use M & Ms in the film getting fired.
 
2012-06-01 05:08:51 PM
Going back to E.T. - I wish Spielberg made a companion edition with "penis breath" with something else. I wouldn't even mind words typically banned on Fark, but penis breath leads to questions. Spielberg even admitted that it was in there for the sole purpose of getting a PG rating - because back then you couldn't request a more restrictive rating and a G rating scares away teens and adults.
 
2012-06-02 06:22:52 PM

FirstNationalBastard: thornhill: Allansfirebird: Skyfrog: There is an immaculate quality 1977 Technicolor print of Star Wars somewhere out there. I just hope it gets transferred and released before Lucas and his army of Storm Troopers find it and confiscate it. Link

As far as I know, the last true IB Technicolor prints were done for The Godfather Part II in 1974. The only surviving 35mm/70mm Blow-up prints of the original Star Wars would only be in Eastman Color. And, sad to say, they would've faded completely to magenta by now. The only possible place an "immaculate" copy of the OCN exists would be in the Lucasfilm Archives. I don't think 20th Century Fox has a copy in their archives any more, GL most likely bought it from them. Which means, we won't get a proper release of the original version until Lucas dies.


I really don't care about this issue that much -- I don't feel that Lucas raped my childhood -- but I imagine that the first step in the 1997 restoration was to create a new print, and that print is what went under a film to digital conversion so that the new digital special effects could be added. The print was then stuck in the archives. So in the theory, that print could be run through the Lowry digital restoration process and further enhanced.

And let's keep in mind the highly successful restorations done to films in really terrible condition, such as Vertigo, which was on the brink of being lost.

Citizen Kane's current HD master was created from worn out theater prints, because all original elements have been lost over time. Same goes for Sunset Boulevard. My Fair Lady was resurrected in the mid-90s from various surviving elements. Hell, even Manos: The Hands of Fate is getting a beautiful HD Remaster from newly recovered elements.

Lucas's story of the original version being unavailable just doesn't hold water.


Maybe Lucas is full of crap, but he said the early stuff was all worn out because of the multiple bits overlayed to get the special effects in with the regular footage.

The early stuff was used for the VHS release back when it was still in good condition, so that is the best record left of the original movie.
 
2012-06-02 06:25:26 PM

Darth_Lukecash: I tried to watch People Vs George Lucas a few weeks back.


I actually enjoyed that movie, and I've never given a faint purple fark about the Star Wars universe.
 
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