Didn't we cover this yesterday? Link

FTFA: "Palmer Park neighbors say they are concerned about rodents and the effect on property values."

You're living in Detroit, your property values are already in the toilet. Turning a run down park nearby into actual greenspace with trees won't hurt you.

They might have done better to plant a shade tree like oak, maple or elm, but apple will do well.

The idea about a public park apple orchard being a source of apples for sale is a little naive though.

Headline...."ax"....."apples"

FTA:
Rochelle Lento, also with the group, said members sought residents' input over the past 14 months including in community meetings.

They should probably attend those meetings. You never know when they might tear down the planet for a transgalactic highway.

the main issue to me is that you shouldn't do public works that require significant maintenance. There are lots of other types of trees that are beautiful but don't require significant pruning, clean-up, harvesting, pest control, etc. It always sounds great when you have a gung-ho team at the beginning, but later on it is going to be a drain that is probably unsustainable.

kmmontandon: As for concerns about rodents: "I've never seen any research or evidence that those things are real," Lento said.


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Came for ROUS ... leaves satisified.

kmmontandon: As for concerns about rodents: "I've never seen any research or evidence that those things are real," Lento said.


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Beat me to it.

Beautify Detroit? That farking shiathole should be bulldozed.

Something tells me that the people planting these trees haven't considered the raw amount of work that goes into maintaining an orchard. Hell, I own a lot with only 6 fruit trees on it and between the pruning, the spraying and cleaning up the fallen fruit, it's NOT an easy task at all, if you want to have fruit you can actually, you know, eat. Orchards do not maintain themselves.

500 apple trees? Five HUNDRED? Are they crazy? Who's going to use the park with so many rotten apples underfoot? Just think of all the animals that will attract. The deer will love it, raccoons, squirrels, birds, will thank you for the feast. But 500-800? What were they thinking?

They are right, plant some oaks or pines or something nice

libranoelrose: RibbyK: Didn't we cover this yesterday? Link

Can you see the apples from spaaaaaace?

Why, yes I can. They look like iPods, iPhones and cultists.

What were they thinking? This is Detroit. You can't have beautiful fruit-bearing trees in a park, where there should be rusting old cars, crack dealers and guys butt-farking and blowing each other.

Only in Detroit.

The concern is with all the driver-bys in Detroit its only a matter of time before the apple get all shot up. They then fall to the ground and kids eat them. So in short if you support apple trees you support kids eating bullets and dying.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Sliding Carp: Does she think that random, uncultivated apples look like what you see in the store? I suspect they won't sell nearly as many of their apples as they seem to think they will. On the other hand, a couple of restaurants with smart chefs will be making some killer pies and dumplings.

Cider, perhaps?

Dickens Cider?

FTFA:
"Palmer Park neighbors say they are concerned about rodents and the effect on property values."


If they were concerned about property values, perhaps they shouldn't be living in Detroit.

We don't plant orange trees in the parks in Florida. Why not? Because even Floridians are not that farking stupid.

Johnny Appleseed only planted so many apples because he needed the acidity in his diet to quiet his raging, untreated gonorrhea!

I thought we have previously agreed that Detroit should be nuked from orbit. Just to be sure.

Sticky Hands: I've been eating little green apples, and I think maybe a little nap will do me good.

What Stickey Hands may look like

They should release some pigs to grow fat on the apples and provide much needed protein. On second thought, wild horses would be much prettier and they could tame and ride them to help stop global warming.

I wanted a loquat tree because the fruit is tasty, but decided against it because of these buggers.

No big deal but I have dogs. They'll go CRAZY if they find one, and will jump the fence if they see one flee that way.

Possums do NOT learn a sense of fear. Well they're generally nomadic and new ones come be regularly, unfamiliar with the "Here There Be Dogs" situation.

Detroit already has a problem with stray cats. Just herd the cats near the apply trees and they'll take care of any rats that might come.

From the comments, I can only conclude that Detroiters are dumb.

there are peach trees too! and other gardens to come as a nod to the park's history as a farm & will help to create no mow zones that gobble up the citie's money in labor and fuel. That money can be put to other good uses, right?!?!

Peaches. In Detroit. Have you considered growing citrus too?

Well, well, well.......it's nice to see that people are as nuts in Michigan as they are in New York, LOL. Plant the apple trees and the neighborhood will be even more beautiful for it. Just think of all the kids that will be happier because of the orchard in their city neighborhood. They will be able to boast to their friends that they have an orchard in their back yard. This should be a non issue. Residents, move on to an issue that really matters.

Yes. Who can forget the intense envy we all had as children for the kids that lived by the orchard?

Do the people who are protesting have another idea to beautify the park? I have worked on clean-up crews in the park and it's a mess. And that's a shame because it is a beautiful park. What is that doing for property values. Perhaps jobs can be created with the orchard.

False dichotomy. I don't have to have a plan to know that yours is stupid.

They nearby residents said the trees would attract rats. Don't they want them out of their houses?

I hope they win. I hope a TV crew shows up to film the residents merrily hacking away at the trees. And then I hope they return in 5 years and ask how the big empty lot is doing.

They misunderstood.
They're not apple trees, they're Apple trees. They bare iPods, iPhones, Macbooks, and so on.
The trees have brushed aluminum bark & gorilla glass leaves. they're very lovely.

kmmontandon


As for concerns about rodents: "I've never seen any research or evidence that those things are real," Lento said.


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Ferment it into hard cider, save money at the liquor store!

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Ferment it into hard cider, save money at the liquor store!

Or they can use the rat turds to make jenkum

When I was a kid my family had a few apple trees, two in the front yard and two in the back yard. They came with the property. I think they were crabapple trees but wasn't too sure. I do know when I ate one it was hard and bitter and caused me to spit it out. Anyways while the apple trees did have beautiful blooms, when the apples dropped on the ground and sit there it was not exactly pretty. I have seen bees, and fruit flies galore attracted to the rotting fruit on the ground. But our novel solution to taking care of the rotting fruit was geese. They loved eating that stuff.

So my csb tale is while fruit trees do have pretty blooms, those blooms don't last long and then you got a whole lot of fruit to deal with. Which will be a PITA if you don't have a way of taking care of it.

Press them apples for cider, let it ferment and get hard, sell it to the bruthas in place of Schlitz Malt Lickety Bull, it tastes better anyway, everyone is happy. It's Detroit for Crissakes, the shiathole of the country! Get Les Gold from American Pawn and Jewelry involved, that Jew boy will make a thriving bidness out of it.

Rapmaster2000: Peaches. In Detroit. Have you considered growing citrus too?

I grew up in SW Ontario about two hours east of Detroit. Had a peach tree in the backyard next to the pear tree. Peaches grow fine in that climate.

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An orchard in a park? Inconceivable!

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