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2012-05-31 10:22:12 AM
For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.
 
2012-05-31 10:32:35 AM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


For the last time: Bush NEVER made that decision and focused our war effort in a country bin Laden wasn't anywhere near. You can't be that retarded.
 
2012-05-31 10:39:13 AM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


God forbid you give the Seal team chance to practice and train on a mockup of the compound he was in. Clearly they should just have been sent in blind, what could possibly have gone wrong?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-31 10:49:17 AM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


Somehow I don't think that is going to be the last time we hear this derp.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-31 10:57:51 AM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

God forbid you give the Seal team chance to practice and train on a mockup of the compound he was in. Clearly they should just have been sent in blind, what could possibly have gone wrong?


That's what Jimmy Carter did, and look how well it worked out.
 
2012-05-31 11:01:15 AM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


You promise that's for the last time? Because it's horseshiat.
 
2012-05-31 11:19:47 AM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


That's the derpspin that you think might work? "It coulda gone wrong"?

Yes, that's very convincing.
 
2012-05-31 11:23:19 AM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


Is that you, Mr. Rumsfeld?

Donald Rumsfeld 2012: "I don't think it was a tough decision. We've seen a lot of instances where presidents over the years have -- have had to make decisions like that... And finally, when all that comes together, to not make that decision, it seemed to me, would just be dumbfounding. I can't imagine any president not making that decision."

Easy decision Donald? You can't imagine any President not making this decision?

A secret military operation in early 2005 to capture senior members of Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas was aborted at the last minute after top Bush administration officials decided it was too risky and could jeopardize relations with Pakistan, according to intelligence and military officials. The mission was called off after Donald H. Rumsfeld, then the defense secretary, rejected an 11th-hour appeal by Porter J. Goss, then the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, officials said. Members of a Navy Seals unit in parachute gear had already boarded C-130 cargo planes in Afghanistan when the mission was canceled, said a former senior intelligence official involved in the planning.

You can't think of any President that wouldn't make the same call, Mr. Rumsfeld? How about the one you worked for?
 
2012-05-31 11:29:03 AM
Mitt's foreign policy experience relates to Switzerland and the Caymens?
 
2012-05-31 11:46:44 AM
Two weeks later, when Chen arrived in New York, Romney declared himself "relieved" and said the episode "underscores the need for the United States to forthrightly stand up for the human rights of the Chinese people."

I'm damn near surprised Romney didn't take credit for this bailout.

www.trbimg.com

"The trees in Pakistan are clearly the wrong height for a successful military operation."
 
2012-05-31 11:56:46 AM
They just won't give Obama anything. He kills bin Laden and they find a way to spin it. It's farking sick.
 
2012-05-31 11:58:15 AM

Mugato: They just won't give Obama anything. He kills bin Laden and they find a way to spin it. It's farking sick.


I don't think al-Qaeda was as mad about bin laden being killed as the Republicans are.
 
2012-05-31 12:01:29 PM
"The politics of failure have failed. We need to make them work again!"

Yeah, OK there Governor Kang Romney.
 
2012-05-31 12:19:58 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: You can't think of any President that wouldn't make the same call, Mr. Rumsfeld? How about the one you worked for?


Journalists can't ask those sort of questions lest they get their access revoked. Just have to parrot whatever the narrative of the day is.
 
2012-05-31 12:44:47 PM

vpb: That's what Jimmy Carter did, and look how well it worked out.


6/10.
 
2012-05-31 01:24:51 PM

DammitIForgotMyLogin: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

God forbid you give the Seal team chance to practice and train on a mockup of the compound he was in. Clearly they should just have been sent in blind, what could possibly have gone wrong?


Our foreign policy should be based "YEE HAW!"

/what trolls/right wingers actually believe
 
2012-05-31 01:25:51 PM
Romney's decision would have been whatever would have gotten him elected.



To him, that's the right thing to do.
 
2012-05-31 01:26:11 PM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


You're a worthless troll. Fix the problem with counseling or gravity.
 
2012-05-31 01:27:08 PM
Does he have any old pictures of him bicycling around France during the Vietnam war? Because I'd be interested in seeing those.
Whar pictures? Whar?
 
2012-05-31 01:28:14 PM

Aarontology: Mugato: They just won't give Obama anything. He kills bin Laden and they find a way to spin it. It's farking sick.

I don't think al-Qaeda was as mad about bin laden being killed as the Republicans are.


Surprised that the GOP hasn't gone with "You gave OBL everything he wanted! 72 virgins! More proof that even for terrorists, you're an entitlement whore!"
 
2012-05-31 01:29:01 PM
Correction to headline:

The guy who failed to stop Osama bin Laden from attacking America and killing 3,000 and then failed to have him killed claims the guy who did have Osama bin Laden killed is weak on foreign policy and national security

/amidoinitrite?
 
2012-05-31 01:29:46 PM

vpb: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Somehow I don't think that is going to be the last time we hear this derp.


"Sure, it was successful, but what if it hadn't been?"

Seriously. That's the best these idiots have.

And considering they didn't have concrete proof that bin Laden was in the compound, calling it a "no brainer" is literally a no-brainer.

Once, more, to emphasize how little these farkers have to work with:

Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

So, Obama shouldn't get credit for the raid...but he should have gotten the blame if it had failed.

THIS IS WHAT THE RIGHT-WING ACTUALLY BELIEVES
AND WHAT TROLLS CLAIM TO BELIEVE
 
2012-05-31 01:30:25 PM
We get it, he's white.
 
2012-05-31 01:30:35 PM

coeyagi: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

You're a worthless troll. Fix the problem with counseling or gravity.


It's by far the most bizarre, reality-warping take on the whole affair I've heard yet.

I mean for crying out loud, you could at least try the "It was purely symbolic at this point and didn't serve to make us safer" thing, or "Bush loosened the lid on the jar" thing.

But no, he completely denies the facts and the results.
 
2012-05-31 01:33:35 PM
But Romney did have many good ideas about killing Bin Laden and is more than willing to take credit for the entire operation.
 
2012-05-31 01:34:17 PM

Lost Thought 00: But Romney did have many good ideas about killing Bin Laden and is more than willing to take credit for the entire operation.


Yes, I was most inspired by the "Old Age" plan from Mittens.
 
2012-05-31 01:35:00 PM

rufus-t-firefly: vpb: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Somehow I don't think that is going to be the last time we hear this derp.

"Sure, it was successful, but what if it hadn't been?"

Seriously. That's the best these idiots have.

And considering they didn't have concrete proof that bin Laden was in the compound, calling it a "no brainer" is literally a no-brainer.

Once, more, to emphasize how little these farkers have to work with:

Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

So, Obama shouldn't get credit for the raid...but he should have gotten the blame if it had failed.

THIS IS WHAT THE RIGHT-WING ACTUALLY BELIEVES
AND WHAT TROLLS CLAIM TO BELIEVE


Seal Team 6 could get a lot more work done if Big Government would just get out of its way.
 
2012-05-31 01:35:56 PM

jehovahs witness protection: bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


And your mom took so long to get Romney off last night, he could have dropped a deuce on her sheets while he was waiting. Of course, that didn't actually happen, but it COULD'VE happened, so it's fair if we all blame him as though he did it, okay?
 
2012-05-31 01:37:36 PM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


Oh fark you. For a no-brainer decision, Clinton didn't make it, Bush didn't make it, and everybody and their dog (including Rmoney) called Obama naive and clueless for saying he would make it in 2008. It's easy to Monday morning quarterback now that it's successful, but that doesn't make it true.
 
2012-05-31 01:39:21 PM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


7/10. You got bites, so that counts for something.
 
2012-05-31 01:39:30 PM

HeartBurnKid: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Oh fark you. For a no-brainer decision, Clinton didn't make it, Bush didn't make it, and everybody and their dog (including Rmoney) called Obama naive and clueless for saying he would make it in 2008. It's easy to Monday morning quarterback now that it's successful, but that doesn't make it true.


Actually, Clinton *did* try to take Bin Laden out with airstrikes, and that resulted in screaming accusations of "WAG THE DOG, WAG THE DOG WAAARRRGGGHH" from the right.
 
2012-05-31 01:41:22 PM
So, killing people is the be all end all of forigen relations?
Good to knOw.
 
2012-05-31 01:41:26 PM
Fox News used to say that Bush kept America safe (if you leave out 9/11, anthrax) but they never say this about Obama.
 
2012-05-31 01:41:47 PM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


Bush had intel on Bin Laden's whereabouts BEFORE 9/11, look where THAT got us. In other words, Bush sat on it for 8 years, Obama made a decision and saw it through to its conclusion in 3. Math may not be your strong suit, so I guess I will explain to you how 8 is a larger number than 3 is.
 
2012-05-31 01:42:38 PM

Felgraf: HeartBurnKid: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Oh fark you. For a no-brainer decision, Clinton didn't make it, Bush didn't make it, and everybody and their dog (including Rmoney) called Obama naive and clueless for saying he would make it in 2008. It's easy to Monday morning quarterback now that it's successful, but that doesn't make it true.

Actually, Clinton *did* try to take Bin Laden out with airstrikes, and that resulted in screaming accusations of "WAG THE DOG, WAG THE DOG WAAARRRGGGHH" from the right.


Clinton launched cruise missiles. He didn't send in a team to finish the job. Partially because of the right's whining, to be sure.
 
2012-05-31 01:43:12 PM
jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Christ, you're retarded. You're actually taking a mission that was planned and executed perfectly without loss of American troops, and crying because it "could have" gone wrong? Is all this dumbassery because of Romney simpering during the primaries that he himself wouldn't have authorized a raid into Pakistan? Do you idiots need to try to reduce Obama to Thurston Howell's level?
 
2012-05-31 01:43:17 PM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


It is truly amazing how full of shiat you are.
 
2012-05-31 01:43:35 PM

Ned Stark: So, killing people is the be all end all of forigen relations?
Good to knOw.


Look how stupid you are.
 
2012-05-31 01:43:37 PM
Again, I'm left to wonder who's the bigger asshole: the troll or his enabler.
 
2012-05-31 01:43:41 PM
The guy who didn't have Osama bin Laden killed

You mean Bill Clinton?
 
2012-05-31 01:44:01 PM
Yet for all his criticisms of the president, it has been difficult to tell exactly what Romney would do differently.

You mean that Mitt is a flip flopper? The Etch a Sketch Candidate? A windsock? Schrödinger's Candidate?

When did THIS happen? I thought the guy was clear on his intentions and never wavered? Wait, my bad, that is ANYONE else.
 
2012-05-31 01:44:41 PM

red5ish: Does he have any old pictures of him bicycling around France during the Vietnam war? Because I'd be interested in seeing those.
Whar pictures? Whar?


i151.photobucket.com

/obviously photoshopped, can tell by the pixels
 
2012-05-31 01:45:12 PM
Its easier to go to war with new countries when you can put a face to the fear. Obama stupidly eliminated that face.
 
2012-05-31 01:45:33 PM

Mikey1969: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Bush had intel on Bin Laden's whereabouts BEFORE 9/11, look where THAT got us. In other words, Bush sat on it for 8 years, Obama made a decision and saw it through to its conclusion in 3. Math may not be your strong suit, so I guess I will explain to you how 8 is a larger number than 3 is.


But Bush kept him on the run, so it was harder to target him. Once Obama took office bin Laden just settled down. It's much easier to target some old dude sitting in a house, smoking pot, and watching porn.
 
2012-05-31 01:48:27 PM
www.politifake.org

And since we're mentioning France and Vietnam... can't resist.

/I can't remember what Kerry did during the war
 
2012-05-31 01:48:59 PM
Didn't everyone go batshiat when he said in the 2008 primary that he would go into Pakistan and kill bin laden if there was good intelligence? Now it's suddenly an 'easy' decision?
 
2012-05-31 01:49:59 PM

jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.


Good point. I am pretty sure there was NOBODY watching the house while they worked out the details. No spies. No drones. No satellites. Nothing.

And more to the point, who the hell wants a President who weighs his options carefully when deciding to perform a military operation in a foreign country with whom we are not at war and who has agreed to let us do it!?!?!?! I say just charge in ham-fisted and start shooting.

You must be a poli-sci super genius.
 
2012-05-31 01:50:33 PM
You'd be pissed too if Obama eliminated your biggest ally.
 
2012-05-31 01:50:41 PM

rnld: Fox News used to say that Bush kept America safe (if you leave out 9/11, anthrax)


"But aside from that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"
 
2012-05-31 01:51:07 PM

Diogenes: Mikey1969: jehovahs witness protection: For the last time: Obama took so long making a no-brainer decision, bin Laden could have been hidden in a different shiathole country before SEAL team 6 could have made a move.

Bush had intel on Bin Laden's whereabouts BEFORE 9/11, look where THAT got us. In other words, Bush sat on it for 8 years, Obama made a decision and saw it through to its conclusion in 3. Math may not be your strong suit, so I guess I will explain to you how 8 is a larger number than 3 is.

But Bush kept him on the run, so it was harder to target him. Once Obama took office bin Laden just settled down. It's much easier to target some old dude sitting in a house, smoking pot, and watching porn.


Dad?
 
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