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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-05-31 09:08:31 AM
Miami police said they discovered on Saturday 31-year-old Rudy Eugene naked, eating the face of another man, also nude, before ordering Eugene to back away, The Daily Hampshire Gazette reported.

The Daily Hampshire Gazette is a local newspaper from Massachusetts. This is the news reporting version of a submitting a Gawker reblog page to fark instead of the real source.
 
2012-05-31 09:13:01 AM
Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.
 
2012-05-31 09:24:21 AM
mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.


Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.
 
2012-05-31 09:30:02 AM
Stupid article
Stupid headline
Stupid Green
 
2012-05-31 09:34:35 AM
nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.


Absolutely.
 
2012-05-31 09:35:49 AM
nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.


Maybe we need another accidental synthesis problem like the people in the 80s who took MPTP thinking it was MPPP.
 
2012-05-31 09:39:16 AM
Diogenes: nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.

Maybe we need another accidental synthesis problem like the people in the 80s who took MPTP thinking it was MPPP.


The key is to keep drugs as illegal as possible.

Only through a total lack of any oversight can we ensure that people will be safe.

War on Drugs!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-31 09:41:26 AM
nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.


To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.
 
2012-05-31 09:47:05 AM
I feel sorry for the pusher of this stuff. You don't want to admit what you do for a living and if you do get sent to prison you sure as hell aint gonna tell your cell mate. It's like going to state prison for jaywalking. Guys in there for tax evasion will make you their biatch.
 
2012-05-31 09:47:38 AM
vpb: To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.

I couldn't agree more. At least with pot you know what you are getting. Sure it can theoretically be laced with something but that's ALMOST unheard of. You take some random herbs sprayed with `something' in China, or a pill someone made, who the hell knows what you've got.

There was a teenager around here who was killed at a concert, well not really an overdose but dehydration as a result of a bad ecstasy pill. I believe they found it to contain PMA and possibly other chemicals, I don't remember exactly. If she had just smoked it up a bit, no doubt she would be alive today. Christ make MDMA legal, let Pfizer make it, at least then people will know what they are getting. Plus we could tax the shiat out of it. But no, reefer madness!
 
2012-05-31 09:53:59 AM
vpb: nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.

To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.


I have, but that was just because that guy had an empty bag of Crunch Tators on his head.

Man, I miss Crunch Tators.
 
2012-05-31 09:54:37 AM
mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.


It's just PCP or synthetic PCP

betcha a dollar
 
2012-05-31 09:59:31 AM
What happens if you actually bathe in the stuff?
 
2012-05-31 10:00:11 AM
When I smoke pot I play the piano really fast and jump out a window.
 
2012-05-31 10:03:34 AM
doglover: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

It's just PCP or synthetic PCP

betcha a dollar


I was thinking that as well.

Storytime with Bunny:

Back in the mid 90's here in Arlington, TX there was a rehab facility called the THC Building, which never ceased to make me laugh. Anyway, I had a friend in HS who worked there, mostly as a candy striper, just doing crap work like hauling things around or emptying trash or whatever.

One Friday night they brought a guy in who was freaking out of his mind on PCP. He was strapped down to a gurney, with thick, huge leather straps. At some point he had had enough and pulled his hands right through the straps, removing most of the skin from his hands and forearms and proceeded to try and free the rest of himself.

My friend told me it took 6 people just to hold that guy down, despite his legs and midsection still being securely strapped in.

PCP is some bad shiat.
 
2012-05-31 10:10:32 AM
the_rev: When I smoke pot I play the piano really fast and jump out a window.

Upright or grand? I mean, either way that is a huge window and I am impressed with your upper body strength.
 
2012-05-31 10:28:14 AM
the_rev: When I smoke pot I play the piano really fast and jump out a window.

I thought I was the only one that did that. My African-American friend just runs around yelling "OOGA BOOGA Where da white wimmin at?"
 
2012-05-31 12:55:15 PM
Calgon, take me away...to a world of DEATH!!!
 
2012-05-31 12:57:21 PM
Nobody used bath salts until they outlawed Cannabis.



There is your farking problem.
 
2012-05-31 12:57:57 PM
Diogenes: What happens if you actually bathe in the stuff?

I would imagine it would burn like hell.

mr_bunny: vpb: nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.

To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.

I have, but that was just because that guy had an empty bag of Crunch Tators on his head.

Man, I miss Crunch Tators.


I have never seen anyone get in trouble from just smoking weed. The synthetic weed seems to make headlines quite a bit. Outlawing weed is harmful obviously.

Also, Ballwin? I think not.
 
2012-05-31 12:58:48 PM
So I tried THC for the first time in my life last week a few weeks leading up to my 30th.

I have asthma so can't smoke, but I found some interesting recipes online. Ended up making Gee and then using that in a ton of stuff.

--

Holy fark have I been lied to. Jesus Christ, that's illegal? I want to go back and cock punch every single cop and DARE presenter I ever had. Alcohol has much more serious side effects than that.

I already believed that everything should be decriminalized/legalized (Like how Portugal does it) and that was just because of my observations on society. There is absofarkinglutely no reason this should be illegal.

The WORST possible side effect is that we all turn into the British and queue for everything.
 
2012-05-31 12:59:03 PM
I agree that its probably PCP. Which also explains why they are naked.
 
2012-05-31 01:01:27 PM
vpb: nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.

To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.


I dunno man, I've heard of REALLY bad cases of The Munchies.
 
2012-05-31 01:01:45 PM
I've been around drugs for a long time, but PCP is something that I've never encountered, never seen anyone on it, except on youtube. What in the hell does that drug do to you exactly? I know bath salts aren't exactly the same, but the hyperviolent, total disorientation seems similar. What in the hell is the upside of doing these things? Or is life just so shiatty that eating people's faces is a nice break from reality, literally.
 
2012-05-31 01:02:11 PM
mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

Or the cocaine psycosis. I heard Drew on the radio yesterday saying that- if I can't trust Drew to give the correct info, who can I trust?
 
2012-05-31 01:02:31 PM
Dear Abby,

My son has been acting strange lately. He used to wake up early, but now he stays up all night and sleeps late. He seems anxious whenever he's around me and has become more secretive in the last six months. I am concerned, of course, so last week while he was out, I went through his drawers. I found a large quantity of bath salts, some of which he'd taken from me; others, he'd bought himself. Do you think my son might be turning into a homosexual?

Thank you for your insight,

Concerned in Fort Wayne
 
2012-05-31 01:03:38 PM
nekom: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

Not that I buy into the drug war propaganda, but to be fair, MDPV is some pretty nasty stuff. If that's still what they use for `bath salts' that is, I can't keep track of all of these designer drugs.

Kids, just go buy some pot, stay away from all that dangerous crap.


Pot laws are what is dangerous about pot...doing the stuff that hasn't been tagged with a 20 year prison sentence is a safer bet (long term)
 
2012-05-31 01:03:42 PM
doglover: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

It's just PCP or synthetic PCP

betcha a dollar


Yep, synthetic cannabinoids don't make you eat someones face off. PCP on the other hand... Saying it "may" be bath salts is just bullshiat propaganda. Not saying these synthetic drugs aren't dangerous mind you, but it should be fought in an honest manner.

Remember kids if you want to do a dissociate, do ketamine, not PCP! The dextromethorphan in Robotussen is also pretty safe as long as its the only active ingredient.
 
2012-05-31 01:04:46 PM
What is MDPV and is that the same chemical used in LSD or PCP or is it just used in bath salts? How is bath salts related to epsom salts or the soak salts i can get at Bath & Body Works?
 
2012-05-31 01:05:56 PM
Unbelievable idiocy coming out of this. Everything at this point is pure speculation. The farking public relations cop was telling the press all about the drug that done it before the body was even cool, let alone before the labs had done anything. I've seen the cops say now that it was "Bath salts" (mm-mephadrone), "Bath salts" (MDPV misidentified), LSD, "Super LSD" (whatever the hell that is) and cocaine. Damn that guy was on a lot of drugs!

"Bath salts" seem to be an ecstasy replacement since ecstasy has become somewhat rare. It appears to do basically the same thing: you feel loved and blissful. There have been several reports of overdose, but the symptoms of this case would be completely unique if the drug is at all involved.
 
2012-05-31 01:07:12 PM
I actually work in the news department at a radio station and we are planning on doing a feature on "bath salts". If you have actually done the stuff and would be willing to do a personal interview on monday for our story, please send me a message with your phone # and a good time to reach you.
 
2012-05-31 01:09:01 PM
FTA: "...as well as synthetic cannabinoids..."

f0.bcbits.com

O_o
 
2012-05-31 01:09:17 PM
mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.


He was a feral vampire. No, drugs were ever used. Rudy had been attacked by a vampire, died and then woke up in a morgue. Hence, he was naked. He wandered out of the morgue and attacked the first warm body he saw.

There were no drugs involved. There, is that what you want to hear?

/or the guy could have been a zombie
//or maybe had rabies
///but heaven forbid you say drugs may have been involved because drugs are supposed to be super duper awesome, right?
 
2012-05-31 01:10:00 PM
SlothB77: What is MDPV and is that the same chemical used in LSD or PCP or is it just used in bath salts? How is bath salts related to epsom salts or the soak salts i can get at Bath & Body Works?

Bath salts is just what they are called because they can't be sold for human consumption. You can't actually use them as bath salt. Well, you could, but you wouldn't want to.
 
2012-05-31 01:11:48 PM
SlothB77: What is MDPV and is that the same chemical used in LSD or PCP or is it just used in bath salts? How is bath salts related to epsom salts or the soak salts i can get at Bath & Body Works?

SlothB77: What is MDPV and is that the same chemical used in LSD or PCP or is it just used in bath salts? How is bath salts related to epsom salts or the soak salts i can get at Bath & Body Works?

MDPV is it's own chemical, from what I have read, it is a speedy hallucinogen, it sounds more like PCP than acid from the extreme cases in the news, but I have never tried it so I cannot speak 1st hand.

It is marketed as "novelty bath salts" (*not for human consumption wink, wink, nod, nod) at head shops until they were banned in the UK and USA. However it is easy to order the stuff in bulk to be delivered to Mexico or Canada, or pretty much anywhere in continental Europe.
 
2012-05-31 01:12:31 PM
vpb: To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.

I did once, but it was the face of a chocolate bunny from Easter.
 
2012-05-31 01:12:46 PM
pirrip: Bath salts" seem to be an ecstasy replacement since ecstasy has become somewhat rare

Not really. It can be any formulation for any intent. It's just marketed in the headshops as bath salts.

It's been around for along time. First time I saw it, in person, was in the mid nineties. I thought the guy was f'n nuts snorting bath salts he purchased at the headshop. I really thought they were bathsalts.
 
2012-05-31 01:13:07 PM
www.healthcare9.com
What a bath salts user might look like
 
2012-05-31 01:16:58 PM
pirrip: Unbelievable idiocy coming out of this. Everything at this point is pure speculation. The farking public relations cop was telling the press all about the drug that done it before the body was even cool, let alone before the labs had done anything. I've seen the cops say now that it was "Bath salts" (mm-mephadrone), "Bath salts" (MDPV misidentified), LSD, "Super LSD" (whatever the hell that is) and cocaine. Damn that guy was on a lot of drugs!

"Bath salts" seem to be an ecstasy replacement since ecstasy has become somewhat rare. It appears to do basically the same thing: you feel loved and blissful. There have been several reports of overdose, but the symptoms of this case would be completely unique if the drug is at all involved.


Oh? I was under the impression 'bath salts' were the poor poor-man's meth. I had heard a story that they came about from truckers? Since amphetamines are hard to come by, and regular meth has a pretty bad rep and harsh penalties, that's why you find 'bath salts' at the most random locations, like, mega truck stop plaza in the middle of bumfark-nowhere. Why would they sell 'bath salts' there? For truckers to stay awake so they can haul loads for 72 straight hours?

*shrugs* i don't know if any of that is true, just speculation.
 
2012-05-31 01:19:07 PM
doglover: mr_bunny: Gee, earlier they were saying it was a new, dangerous form of "Super LSD".

I kind of wish that the drug warriors would get their story straight so I will know which chemicals I should live in constant fear of.

It's just PCP or synthetic PCP

betcha a dollar


was it cocaine? i bet it was cocaine.
www.gigatonne.com
 
2012-05-31 01:22:24 PM
Why is bath salts always bath salts in the media, not meth/pcp/coke analogue or whatever, but incense is always "synthetic marijuana".
 
2012-05-31 01:22:25 PM
vonapathy: pirrip: Unbelievable idiocy coming out of this. Everything at this point is pure speculation. The farking public relations cop was telling the press all about the drug that done it before the body was even cool, let alone before the labs had done anything. I've seen the cops say now that it was "Bath salts" (mm-mephadrone), "Bath salts" (MDPV misidentified), LSD, "Super LSD" (whatever the hell that is) and cocaine. Damn that guy was on a lot of drugs!

"Bath salts" seem to be an ecstasy replacement since ecstasy has become somewhat rare. It appears to do basically the same thing: you feel loved and blissful. There have been several reports of overdose, but the symptoms of this case would be completely unique if the drug is at all involved.

Oh? I was under the impression 'bath salts' were the poor poor-man's meth. I had heard a story that they came about from truckers? Since amphetamines are hard to come by, and regular meth has a pretty bad rep and harsh penalties, that's why you find 'bath salts' at the most random locations, like, mega truck stop plaza in the middle of bumfark-nowhere. Why would they sell 'bath salts' there? For truckers to stay awake so they can haul loads for 72 straight hours?

*shrugs* i don't know if any of that is true, just speculation.


That's a nice way to say:
He's a dumbfark who thinks if he spews something, it must hold the same weight as anything else. Even if he is not familiar with any concept around the subject.
 
2012-05-31 01:23:12 PM
nekom: vpb: To me the best argument for legalizing some drugs is to keep people from taking the more dangerous things like this. I can't remember anyone eating someones face because they smoked a doobie.

I couldn't agree more. At least with pot you know what you are getting. Sure it can theoretically be laced with something but that's ALMOST unheard of. You take some random herbs sprayed with `something' in China, or a pill someone made, who the hell knows what you've got.

There was a teenager around here who was killed at a concert, well not really an overdose but dehydration as a result of a bad ecstasy pill. I believe they found it to contain PMA and possibly other chemicals, I don't remember exactly. If she had just smoked it up a bit, no doubt she would be alive today. Christ make MDMA legal, let Pfizer make it, at least then people will know what they are getting. Plus we could tax the shiat out of it. But no, reefer madness!


That's what always scared me off E. Who the hell knows whats in that pill?
 
2012-05-31 01:25:26 PM
jdmac: I actually work in the news department at a radio station and we are planning on doing a feature on "bath salts". If you have actually done the stuff and would be willing to do a personal interview on monday for our story, please send me a message with your phone # and a good time to reach you.

You should hit up Dynascape. He may have some contacts for you.
 
2012-05-31 01:26:15 PM
spentmiles

Dear Concerned in Fort Wayne,
Yes. When he's old enough your son will be a regular at After Dark's drag show. Be supportive and go see him perform.

/Fort Wayne represent!
 
2012-05-31 01:35:56 PM
mr_bunny: Back in the mid 90's here in Arlington, TX there was a rehab facility called the THC Building, which never ceased to make me laugh.

There's a THC Ophthalmology in Ft. Worth that always makes me chuckle when I pass. Lots of glaucoma patients, I bet.
 
2012-05-31 01:50:29 PM
incendi: mr_bunny: Back in the mid 90's here in Arlington, TX there was a rehab facility called the THC Building, which never ceased to make me laugh.

There's a THC Ophthalmology in Ft. Worth that always makes me chuckle when I pass. Lots of glaucoma patients, I bet.


/le googles THC Ophthalmology
 
2012-05-31 02:02:41 PM
Blowmonkey: I've been around drugs for a long time, but PCP is something that I've never encountered, never seen anyone on it, except on youtube. What in the hell does that drug do to you exactly? I know bath salts aren't exactly the same, but the hyperviolent, total disorientation seems similar. What in the hell is the upside of doing these things? Or is life just so shiatty that eating people's faces is a nice break from reality, literally.

It's not particularly that cool. I had some crappy weed that was laced with it one time. Even thought the bud was crap, we smoked a lot of it to see the effects. It makes you feel like you're watching somebody else through your eyes. I washed the dishes and It felt like my hands did not belong to me. Weird, but not really that interesting or euphoric.

As far as Ketamine is concerned, I don't know that it's any safer. It's a matter of dosage. It doesent matter whether it's K, G, or PCP, if you take too much of a dissociative it will inhibit your ability to get up and move around for a while. Some people find this extremely frightening.

And for the love of God just stay away from Datura or anything in the nightshade family. Unless of course you *want* to have a waking nightmare.
 
2012-05-31 02:15:16 PM
Ketamine is far safer than PCP - mostly because the paralytic effects are immediate at higher doses. Good luck eating a face off when your limbs are completely immobile.
 
2012-05-31 02:32:39 PM
MrJesus: Good luck eating a face off

So it's come to this has it? Not sure why "good luck eating a face..." struck me as so funny. but it sorta is now that eating faces is our pop culture.
 
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