SharkTrager: Debeo Summa Credo: SharkTrager: An interesting thing happened this week.A guy I know who is a huge strip club fan was talking about the texts he gets from girls, and kind of what's happening in the clubs. I usually just like hearing his stories (You lie Chris Rock). But this was different.He said that what has been happening with the girls has happened two times before, and both times were right before recessions hit.His theory is that strippers are a leading indicator.I'm dying to know. What is happening with the girls that is a leading indicator of recessions?It has to do with a variety of things.The end of month rent is due texts are up. The number of times the dancers outnumber the customers is up. The number of obviously desperate dancers is up. The number of girls willing to meet outside the club is up. The amount they are quoting him is WAY down. While I'm not in that scene, I've heard enough stories, and remember enough from my younger days, to know that if he's telling the truth something has changed.Maybe it's just local, but it's pretty clear something changed, and it changed quickly.
MaudlinMutantMollusk: Cythraul: So vote Republican.Well, we could have voted for the Republican that's running HP right now/might have saved a lot of jobs right there now that I think about it
Shaggy_C: Obamacare comes into effect year by year and layoffs increase yaer by year coincidence?
forgotmydamnusername: High fuel prices ate into men's "money to be pissed away on strippers" funds?
SharkTrager: forgotmydamnusername: High fuel prices ate into men's "money to be pissed away on strippers" funds?Gas prices are down from a few months ago.The offers he claims to be getting are insane, and he's not the only one I've heard saying it. He's just the one I tend to believe.
rosebud_the_sled: Let me tell you a little something about HP.Their lay-offs are based upon a randomized method that has no input from middle or low management. They are so concerned about some special interest group suing them, that they are randomizing the people regardless of performance or necessity for future projects. It is interesting. I am watching complete projects that are crucial for the spoken "future of HP" being s**tcanned because the random lay-offs have eliminated critical leads or architects.Of course, this "random" selection has not targeted any executives, because they are more equal than the ones below.Meg is no different than Mark Hurd.HP is doomed to become another footnote. From what I understand, they planning on moving much of their development to China (H3C) to make sure that all of their products are infused with mainland China's "special" features.
immrlizard: Hp is suffering for a decade's worth of bad decisions. Some may have to do with the economy, but most of it is of their own doing.
LesserEvil: immrlizard: Hp is suffering for a decade's worth of bad decisions. Some may have to do with the economy, but most of it is of their own doing.They would have been in far worse shape if they hadn't picked up EDS. Some of it's a mixed bag (automotive business has sucked since GM spun EDS off and GM execs went on a warpath against "grievances" - only to find our competitors charged more for the same services they thought they were being overcharged on, but I digress), but in all, IT services have been a big money maker for HP. It's what got Leo into the Chair in the first place. but Leo's obsession with software, and his desire to kill the hardware end of things (HP's base) exposed his unsuitability to running a company like HP.What HP is mostly guilty of is not responding quicker to tightening their belts where hardware is concerned. I would also say they are guilty of dropping the ball in quality, but then again, so has pretty much every other company out there, in their rush to offshore manufacturing and customer service.They are, after all, the top PC company on the planet. That doesn't happen by making ONLY bad decisions.I will also interject one more thing here... HP isn't Apple, nor is Microsoft, Dell, Samsung, Toshiba... pretty much everybody is guilty of thinking they have the same sort of brand name magic Apple does, and have made attempt to compete with Apple on the same terms, only to fail miserably. Overpricing decent products and relying on your brand name doesn't work if your name isn't Apple (or Starbucks, McDonalds, IKEA, Toyota, Sony etc...). Some companies, for some bizarre reason, have attained cult status and can set their own pricing. Execs at many companies like HP forget this for some idiotic reasoning.... the Touchpad was a good example. It was a decent (but far from great) tablet, with a very good OS - but it was overpriced and execs targeted it to sell almost as well as the iPad. Really. My 12 year old could have told them they w ...
LesserEvil: Debeo Summa Credo: WTF? The bank fiasco was orchestrated by whom? For whom?I said Dodd, and clearly for the Democrats.
snowshovel: Yes, clearly this is the economy's fault. If people can't afford really cheap computers, I bet the sales of pricey computers that Apple makes must really be in a freefall.//or it could be that people who buy razon-thin margin computers equipment really have no brand loyalty to HP, and they've just moved on to the other, slightly even cheaper models made by competitors.///just like Obama told them too to screw over a Republican owned company, or something
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