Harv72b: signing him to a last place roster makes about as much sense as arguing about it on the internet.

Sure, if you completely ignore the reasons that dragonchild and I laid out RE: money, keeping prospects in the minors, promotions, etc.

What doesn't make any sense is signing him to pitch for a playoff team...which is what you suggested (but then pretended you were only talking about having him COACH such a team):

Harv72b: But if anyone claimed him I would expect it to be a team with a good shot at the postseason and an otherwise young staff, who could afford to hide him as a spot starter/long relief kind of guy. Maybe a Tampa Bay or someone.

Harv72b: If he's being brought in solely for clubhouse purposes, then he should be a coach regardless of how good the team as a whole is.

Either you actually think Moyer can be a good pitcher for a playoff team (which is insane), or those two quotes don't match up.

ripped shamelessly from the last jaime moyer thread.

When Giancarlo Stanton launched a missile that broke a scoreboard panel in Miami for a paralyzing grand slam, the end had arrived. There was no longer a margin for error. Just a window of defeat when he was on the mound. The feel-good story had given way to an uncomfortable reality.

I watched that game on tv specifically because moyer was pitching. When Stanton crushed that grand slam, I wondered if I was watching moyer's last game. I don't know if I've seen a homer get out of the park that quickly. Breaking part of the video panel on the scoreboard was icing on the cake. You could see the defeated look on moyer's face. It was kinda sad. The funny thing is, he was doing OK up until that point. I think he was in the fifth inning and had only given up a couple of runs.

/the young rising star got the better of the old wily vet that day.

buttery_shame_cave: [espn.go.com image 374x1100]


ripped shamelessly from the last jaime moyer thread.

That picture is hilarious, and there's a lot of great little gems (Washington AL & NL teams, the fact that he retired with 479 wins, etc...)

But one thing always bugs me: he can't be the first pitcher to throw underhand. Until 1884, that was actually required.

DeWayne Mann: buttery_shame_cave: [espn.go.com image 374x1100]


ripped shamelessly from the last jaime moyer thread.

That picture is hilarious, and there's a lot of great little gems (Washington AL & NL teams, the fact that he retired with 479 wins, etc...)

But one thing always bugs me: he can't be the first pitcher to throw underhand. Until 1884, that was actually required.

from what i understand, the history of the sport is broken down into two segments, with the modern-age being counted after something like 1896 or somewhere in there, when the system and organization became much closer to what exists today.

or i could be way the fark off on that.

TheManofPA: Philly loves Moyer

Everywhere loves Moyer. Dude has been a non-stop class train the whole ride. I think the fact that he's been able to maintain that 'happy to be here' mentality the whole time is what makes it so hard to walk away. And the dude should teach a class on athlete's 'foundations'. If you do it right they aren't just a tax dodge and a place for your troublesome family members to 'work'.

MAYORBOB: Here's hoping Jamie manages to catch on with a team so he can pitch at age 50. The guy has been a class act wherever he played.

I'm pretty sure he'll get picked up somewhere.

As for subtard- fark you in the face with a rusty pitchfork.

DeWayne Mann: Harv72b: So Moyer's out of the majors

No he's not. I wouldn't be surprised if someone claimed him. I'd keep an eye on Minnesota.

Come back home to the Cubs, Jamie. Some of the young'ns need serious work here.

JohnBigBootay: PowerSlacker: Seattle sports fans are notorious suckers. Some of them even want Sternball back after the way he plunger raped them.

I just find it really odd how beloved he is even after burning the place down on sports radio on his way out of town the first time and signing with cincy for less that seattle would have given him. Then he comes back - does ok the for an old part-time guy the first year. The second year he's asleep in the dugout (Griffey's treatment of the 30 yr beat reporter who broke the story is reprehensible) and couldn't hit a homer with a golfball and whines about being benched after 100 plate appearances with nary a HR and only 7 RBI's. Then quits and leaves in the middle of the night without even facing his teammates. Has he even been seen in town since he left? The dude hates seattle and he has since before he left the first time. But the locals are still in love with the guy. He'd have to buy a billboard with him giving the finger before anyone would notice it though.

I really don't get the love for the guy at all. He's damn near Barry Bonds level of toxic, which is no surprise given their very similar bio's.

The sleeping in the clubhouse thing REALLY chapped my ass. Can you imagine sleeping in Lou Pinella's clubhouse? You'd have a black eye and be on a bus to the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers before the inning was over.

And they all went with the defense of spoiled brats everywhere and blamed the mediaaaaarrrrgh

buttery_shame_cave: from what i understand, the history of the sport is broken down into two segments, with the modern-age being counted after something like 1896 or somewhere in there, when the system and organization became much closer to what exists today.

or i could be way the fark off on that.

There's still a lot of disagreement, but the general consensus is to have the modern era start in 1901, when the AL formed.

But that doesn't make 19th century players "not major-leaguers." If you played in the NL, AL, the Federal League, the first American Association, the professional version of the National Association, the first Union Association, or the Players League...you're considered a major-leaguer. And that brings us all the way back to 1869.