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2012-05-31 09:07:18 AM

imontheinternet: Real world problems. Nanny state solutions.

The government should just ban everything but fresh fruits and vegetables, then we can all skip through our garden utopia, healthy and happy. While they're at it, they should ban cigarettes, alcohol, and porn to keep our minds and bodies healthy and clean.

Thank you so much for protecting us from our own free will, Mayor Farkstick.


Free will is great as long as you do not pass on the cos toexercisingit it to others.

Who has to pickup the cost when the fatties lifestyle starts affecting their health. We already see a lot of the costs such as Increased injuries among first responders who have to move their fat bodies. The purchase of stretchers and other medial equipment capable of handling their larger sizes.

To all the advocates of a single payer government health care system think we can afford to cover the future health care costs of a population that is moving past 30% towards 50% obese without imposing some draconian rules with regards to life style?

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2012-05-31 09:07:23 AM

Rich Cream: imontheinternet: Salt Lick Steady: Alphax: I met a guy who was some sort of linguistics specialist, who found me fascinating

I once met a linguistics guy who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy, who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy who found me; fascinating.


I once met a linguistics guy whom found me fascinating.
 
2012-05-31 09:08:08 AM

Nemo's Brother: Is there anything the Liberals don't try to ban in the name of the children?


Trolling?
 
2012-05-31 09:10:06 AM

Rich Cream: imontheinternet: Salt Lick Steady: Alphax: I met a guy who was some sort of linguistics specialist, who found me fascinating

I once met a linguistics guy who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy, who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy who found me; fascinating.


Aaah. Can I make fascinating a verb?
 
2012-05-31 09:10:39 AM

dumbobruni: um, soda makes you more thirsty no?


No.
 
2012-05-31 09:11:42 AM

advres: Just watch this

BUT, people should have the right to be as unhealthy as they like. Seriously though, stop ingesting sugar by the ton people.



What if the soda is sugar free?
 
2012-05-31 09:11:49 AM
Maybe Bloomie should allow Phys-ed in schools....like dodge-ball, kick-ball, running around on the play ground. Even if you cut out 'sugary drinks' & 'fat foods'....children will gain weight if they are inactive.
 
2012-05-31 09:12:51 AM
THERE IS NO SUGAR IN THE SODA! IT'S HFCS!!!!! IT'S ALL LIES!!!!

/really, why show sugar packets?
 
2012-05-31 09:13:02 AM
Sometimes, people are too stupid for their own good. Sometimes, a product needs to be banned to keep people from hurting themselves.

Sugary soda is one of those things.
 
2012-05-31 09:13:02 AM
Liberal New Yorker here. This is a stupid farking ban.

That said, I would like to see more encouragement for restaurants and fast food places to sell unsweetened iced tea. Lipton Brisk stuff and anything that comes out of a soda fountain is just flat, tea-flavored soda and farking disgusting. I don't expect you to brew with quality leaves, but how hard is it to set up a hopper with some orange pekoe so I can just chug that teay goodness without it tasting like farking syrup?

/Doesn't drink regular soda.
//Can chug gallons of unsweetened or only slightly sweetened (one or two packets of sweet and low per gallon) iced tea.
///Bladder of a champ.
 
2012-05-31 09:13:13 AM

This text is now purple: dumbobruni: um, soda makes you more thirsty no?

No.


Though, for me at least, it does nothing to make me less thirsty.
 
2012-05-31 09:13:21 AM
If restaurants don't want to comply with this, they can just hire enough private security to defeat the NYPD in combat. It's not like there's no choice.
 
2012-05-31 09:14:44 AM

Nem Wan: If restaurants don't want to comply with this, they can just hire enough private security to defeat the NYPD in combat. It's not like there's no choice.


Indeed. Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong here we come!
 
2012-05-31 09:15:37 AM

Salt Lick Steady: imontheinternet: Salt Lick Steady: Alphax: I met a guy who was some sort of linguistics specialist, who found me fascinating

I once met a linguistics guy who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy, who found me fascinating.

What's with the unnecessary comma? Is there a joke I'm missing?


Commas should be used for clauses beginning in who or which, unless those clauses are necessary for identification. Granted, it's a bit archaic, but if we're going to nitpick....
 
2012-05-31 09:16:07 AM

Spaced Lion: diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones)


[citation needed]

Diet soda has 0 calories, so it cannot make you fat unless you replace those calories with other calories. Despite what the hipster-granolas tell you, you cannot make fat out of 0 calories.
 
2012-05-31 09:16:37 AM
Heh.
 
2012-05-31 09:17:05 AM
I'm in KY - we were recently second in the nation for obesity; now we're sixth. This is a die-hard red state, full of people that want "government out of their MediCare" and yet we are also just absolutely full of disgustingly obese tubs of lard that never met a deep-fried meal they didn't like.

Let me put it this way: I'm in a small department of 11 people, and only three of us (myself and two other dudes) are not overweight. I hate to call it an "epidemic" because I believe obesity is ultimately rooted in poor impulse control, but something has got to be done. I am also torn because I don't believe it is right for Government to tell us what to consume, but sometimes you do have to protect people from themselves, particularly when they're ignorant motherfarkers.

I know quite a few fat people whose idea of eating a "healthy meal" is having a salad for lunch, and drowning that shiat in ranch dressing.
 
2012-05-31 09:18:08 AM

ox45tallboy: [i775.photobucket.com image 640x360]

"...and it's been deemed that anything not good for you is bad; hence, illegal. Alcohol, caffeine, contact sports, meat... "

/DAMN that movie was freakin' prophetic


Most near future SciFi shows I see, I imagine what I would be doing in that situation. I am pretty sure I had no place in that world.
 
2012-05-31 09:18:15 AM

Alphax: It's soda in St. Louis.. but warsh, yes. Though I've trained myself to stop saying it that way.


Any other words you've trained yourself to speak correctly?
 
2012-05-31 09:18:22 AM

Zerochance: I know quite a few fat people whose idea of eating a "healthy meal" is having a salad for lunch, and drowning that shiat in ranch dressing.


Yeah, caesar is much more healthy.
 
2012-05-31 09:18:29 AM

Salt Lick Steady: imontheinternet: Salt Lick Steady: Alphax: I met a guy who was some sort of linguistics specialist, who found me fascinating

I once met a linguistics guy who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy, who found me fascinating.

What's with the unnecessary comma? Is there a joke I'm missing?


Yeah, I didn't get that either.

I *was* gonna ask at one point if your linguist was particularly cunning but then thought better of it.

/I have eschewed those sort of low brow jokes these days, ya know.
//Yes siree, bub, nothing but the straight and narrow path for me now.
///*smug*
 
2012-05-31 09:18:42 AM

kmmontandon: what will I wash my 1500 calorie pizza down with?

That's pretty healthy, for a pizza. Perhaps you meant just one slice.


Nah, you're thinking Chicago-style, where a 16" pizza has enough cheese and toppings to feed a family of eight.
 
2012-05-31 09:18:54 AM
As long as cigarettes as still legal........
 
2012-05-31 09:20:11 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Nurse, can you believe what this liberal nanny state is doing now? Ban on gigantic sodas? *snort* I think it's clear that I'm perfectly capable of taking care of myself. Now nurse, listen carefully...I need you to cash my disability check and acquire me two of these "big gulps", for Raul, the bedpan boy will be here soon. Watching his lithe muscles hoist my leavings leads me to perspire and I'll require sugary refreshment.


I wonder how many people are employed because of the need for fatty hoists.
 
2012-05-31 09:20:18 AM

ferretman: Maybe Bloomie should allow Phys-ed in schools....


2. What are the New York State requirements for physical education?

All students in K-12 must attend and participate in a physical education program.

All pupils in grades K-3 shall attend and participate in physical education on a daily basis.

All pupils in grades 4-6 shall attend and participate in physical education not less than three times per week.

All pupils in grades 7-12 shall attend and participate in physical education for not less than three times per week in one semester, and not less than two times per week in the other semester.

3. What is the time requirement for physical education per calendar week?

120 minutes per calendar week exclusive of any time that may be required for dressing and showering.

4. Are there any waivers or exemptions for physical education?

No.

This reminder that NYC schools still have gym comes courtesy of the NY State Education Department.
 
2012-05-31 09:20:20 AM

mccoma: Most near future SciFi shows I see, I imagine what I would be doing in that situation. I am pretty sure I had no place in that world.


Not this guy?


A]ccording to Cocteau's plan, I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal?
 
2012-05-31 09:20:31 AM
This just means that, in New York, you won't be able to get a proper cuppa.

/like mine with too much sugar and too much cream
//in a TARDIS mug as well
 
2012-05-31 09:20:47 AM
When Adkisson's Army rises up to eliminate all Liberals and all forms of Liberalism from this great nation of ours, insanity like this will be a thing of the past. Saul Alinsky. You Liberal pieces of shiat have destroyed our freedoms for the last time. God hates you and wants you gone.
 
2012-05-31 09:20:47 AM
32 ounces is for pussies. I'll have one 128 ounce Super Mega Extreme Gulp™ 5000 please.
 
2012-05-31 09:20:53 AM

Bloody William: Liberal New Yorker here. This is a stupid farking ban.

That said, I would like to see more encouragement for restaurants and fast food places to sell unsweetened iced tea. Lipton Brisk stuff and anything that comes out of a soda fountain is just flat, tea-flavored soda and farking disgusting. I don't expect you to brew with quality leaves, but how hard is it to set up a hopper with some orange pekoe so I can just chug that teay goodness without it tasting like farking syrup?

/Doesn't drink regular soda.
//Can chug gallons of unsweetened or only slightly sweetened (one or two packets of sweet and low per gallon) iced tea.
///Bladder of a champ.


Tea is all I drink. I get up in the morning, brew a bag of tea, throw in a little bit of sugar. Here in the south, you buy sweet tea and it'll eat the enamel off your teeth.

Bladder challenge!
 
2012-05-31 09:21:18 AM

machoprogrammer: Spaced Lion: diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones)

[citation needed]

Diet soda has 0 calories, so it cannot make you fat unless you replace those calories with other calories. Despite what the hipster-granolas tell you, you cannot make fat out of 0 calories.



Certain artificial sweeteners have other side effects. The most interesting one I've heard about is making you more hungry. This is second hand and I have no citation, so feel free to disregard. A friend (who is diabetic and drinks diet sodas frequently) once told me that a certain sweetener caused an effect where the brain expected calories and when they weren't there you began craving them. I've never cared enough to verify though.
 
2012-05-31 09:22:41 AM

imontheinternet: Real world problems. Nanny state solutions.

The government should just ban everything but fresh fruits and vegetables,.

That leaves out any food that a Monsanto product has been within a mile of.
 
2012-05-31 09:23:05 AM

Bloody William: but how hard is it to set up a hopper with some orange pekoe so I can just chug that teay goodness without it tasting like farking syrup?


Orange pekoe is a tea grade, not a blend.
 
2012-05-31 09:23:12 AM

ph0rk: Zerochance: I know quite a few fat people whose idea of eating a "healthy meal" is having a salad for lunch, and drowning that shiat in ranch dressing.

Yeah, caesar is much more healthy.


Particularly when you douse enough to make the bacon bits and cheese float around the bowl.
 
2012-05-31 09:23:23 AM

Salt Lick Steady: Tea is all I drink. I get up in the morning, brew a bag of tea, throw in a little bit of sugar. Here in the south, you buy sweet tea and it'll eat the enamel off your teeth.


I put sweet tea up there with Thai iced tea and Vietnamese coffee in "Nice dessert beverage, but I couldn't drink more than a glass." That stuff's like tea syrup.

I have plenty of bags at home, but I should go down to Christopher Street for tons of gay porn loose tea at McNulty's, the best tea shop in the city. Nothing but barrels and mason jars full of teas sold in bulk. You can get a good green and white tea blend for $12 a pound.
 
2012-05-31 09:23:32 AM

fracto73: machoprogrammer: Spaced Lion: diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones)

[citation needed]

Diet soda has 0 calories, so it cannot make you fat unless you replace those calories with other calories. Despite what the hipster-granolas tell you, you cannot make fat out of 0 calories.


Certain artificial sweeteners have other side effects. The most interesting one I've heard about is making you more hungry. This is second hand and I have no citation, so feel free to disregard. A friend (who is diabetic and drinks diet sodas frequently) once told me that a certain sweetener caused an effect where the brain expected calories and when they weren't there you began craving them. I've never cared enough to verify though.


Many contain phenylalanine, which in sufficient quantities competes with tryptophan for crossing the blood-brain barrier.

Not enough tryptophan can lead to depressed mood. Hooray!
 
2012-05-31 09:24:26 AM

henryhill: As long as cigarettes as still legal........


Electronic Cigarette with cola flavored nic juice, FTW!
 
2012-05-31 09:25:31 AM

quatchi: Salt Lick Steady: imontheinternet: Salt Lick Steady: Alphax: I met a guy who was some sort of linguistics specialist, who found me fascinating

I once met a linguistics guy who found me fascinating.

I once met a linguistics guy, who found me fascinating.

What's with the unnecessary comma? Is there a joke I'm missing?

Yeah, I didn't get that either.

I *was* gonna ask at one point if your linguist was particularly cunning but then thought better of it.

/I have eschewed those sort of low brow jokes these days, ya know.
//Yes siree, bub, nothing but the straight and narrow path for me now.
///*smug*


Don't care. I'm still laughing at "fizzy pop."

/he was more lunging than cunning
 
2012-05-31 09:26:10 AM

hasty ambush: Free will is great as long as you do not pass on the cos toexercisingit it to others.

Who has to pickup the cost when the fatties lifestyle starts affecting their health. We already see a lot of the costs such as Increased injuries among first responders who have to move their fat bodies. The purchase of stretchers and other medial equipment capable of handling their larger sizes.

To all the advocates of a single payer government health care system think we can afford to cover the future health care costs of a population that is moving past 30% towards 50% obese without imposing some draconian rules with regards to life style?


Even accepting your assumption that government social engineering is necessary to curtail healthcare costs, the tax code provides a better vehicle than outright bans.
 
2012-05-31 09:26:27 AM

This text is now purple: Bloody William: but how hard is it to set up a hopper with some orange pekoe so I can just chug that teay goodness without it tasting like farking syrup?

Orange pekoe is a tea grade, not a blend.


Swag tea. Ditch tea. Tea that's mostly seeds and stems. General "tea" that has unspecific tea-ness about it. It's iced tea! You don't need a good blend, as long as it still is actual tea and doesn't come from those horrible powders.
 
2012-05-31 09:26:43 AM

machoprogrammer: Spaced Lion: diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones)

[citation needed]

Diet soda has 0 calories, so it cannot make you fat unless you replace those calories with other calories. Despite what the hipster-granolas tell you, you cannot make fat out of 0 calories.


First, he didn't say they caused weight gain, he said they were unhealthy. Second, it has been shown in rats that exposure to artificial sweeteners can mess with the body's response to sugar and cause overeating.

Of course, that study was done by the "hipster-granolas" at Behavioral Neuroscience, so feel free to disregard it. They probably just got into behavioral neuroscience because you hadn't heard of it.
 
2012-05-31 09:27:02 AM

henryhill: As long as cigarettes as still legal........


Maybe they should make them shorter
 
2012-05-31 09:27:46 AM
64-oz plastic cups are awesome bathtub toys for tots. If you take those away what will I replace them with? Expensive kid bath toys?
 
2012-05-31 09:28:04 AM
- Get the Tobacco Lobbyists to help the soda jerks out.

- Instead of banning sugary beverages, stick warning labels on them & let the customers decide what they put in their bodies.


WARNING: Drinking 64 oz of this chemical mixture will make you fat & sick & destroy your stomach & other vital organs. Enjoy Coke!
 
2012-05-31 09:28:50 AM

Radioactive Ass: liam76: There is no second hand fat, or second hand calories from soda's.

The comparison is idiotic.


Read my other comments on why the comparison is valid. Hint: It has nothing to do with secondhand smoke in particular but on how some people will try to control the actions of other people even when those actions are otherwise legal.


Hint: you don't get to decide why I think smoking bans are or are not ok.

You argument is like saying that since I support noise ordinances I must also support legal limits on how loud earphones can be.
 
2012-05-31 09:29:22 AM

Bloody William: I put sweet tea up there with Thai iced tea and Vietnamese coffee in "Nice dessert beverage, but I couldn't drink more than a glass." That stuff's like tea syrup.


It's like muscadine wine. Blech.
 
2012-05-31 09:29:34 AM
Taxing bad food is certainly offensive, but it would be less offensive if healthy food options were even remotely close to as available to the degree that bad food is. If I could get a salad at 3AM, I would.
 
2012-05-31 09:29:49 AM

Bloody William: I have plenty of bags at home, but I should go down to Christopher Street for tons of gay porn loose tea at McNulty's, the best tea shop in the city. Nothing but barrels and mason jars full of teas sold in bulk. You can get a good green and white tea blend for $12 a pound.


I'm a big tea drinker myself.

If you live near a Chinatown, or have some specialty Chinese stores, do yourself a favor and try out a good Chinese tea (their black teas are specifically good).

I'm lucky to live about 4 blocks from Chinatown here in Montreal and I gotta tell you, it shows that they've been growing tea for 4000 years in China. Some really really good ones.
 
2012-05-31 09:30:58 AM
I for one applaud Bloomberg.

I'm sick and tired of putting the effort in to being healthy and having to help supplement the health insurance of the people primarily eat fast food and soda, and then claim the reason they're overweight with diabetes and a heart condition is because of genetics.

But to really make a dent, we need to do what we've done with cigarettes: tax the hell out of soda.
 
2012-05-31 09:33:23 AM

machoprogrammer: Spaced Lion: diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones)

[citation needed]

Diet soda has 0 calories, so it cannot make you fat unless you replace those calories with other calories. Despite what the hipster-granolas tell you, you cannot make fat out of 0 calories.


At least daily consumption of diet soda was associated with a 36% greater relative risk of incident metabolic syndrome and a 67% greater relative risk of incident type 2 diabetes compared with nonconsumption
 
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