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(The New York Times)   But without my 32oz soda, what will I wash my 1500 calorie pizza down with?   (nytimes.com) divider line 582
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2012-05-30 11:51:38 PM
Für die Volk
 
2012-05-30 11:57:37 PM
what will I wash my 1500 calorie pizza down with?

That's pretty healthy, for a pizza. Perhaps you meant just one slice.
 
2012-05-31 12:25:06 AM

cman: Für die Volk


As opposed to government-subsidized corn being sold back to us as pure sugar, pennies on the dollar? How about corn subsidies stop, then we'll see if sugar water is still sold at $1.25 a gallon in every single store in the US.
 
2012-05-31 12:36:14 AM
Just when I thought that Bloomberg could not be any more of a douche and a buzzkill.
 
2012-05-31 12:50:32 AM
Well what if i order two beverages?
 
2012-05-31 01:25:45 AM

ceebeecates4: Well what if i order two beverages?


That's exactly how retailers will get around this.
 
2012-05-31 01:28:48 AM

ceebeecates4: Well what if i order two beverages?


Then you will pay 1/3 more for the same amount of sugar water. Its a win win!
 
2012-05-31 01:40:30 AM
With beer.
 
2012-05-31 03:56:24 AM
of course, gigantic starbucks frappacinos are still allowed.
 
2012-05-31 03:57:05 AM
Don't worry, they are only banning sugary drinks. HFCS is not sugar.
 
2012-05-31 03:58:29 AM
I am sure this will go over smoothly and perfectly, with no repercussions or public backlash whatsoever.
 
2012-05-31 04:00:14 AM

dumbobruni: of course, gigantic starbucks frappacinos are still allowed.


Frap Frap Frap
 
2012-05-31 04:00:21 AM
I don't see why Bloomburg thinks it's his job to stop people from being fat.

/if i were him I'd release a public statement: "KNOCK IT OFF, FATTIES. You wanna shorten your lives with heart disease? Be my guest."

/dnrtfa
 
2012-05-31 04:00:48 AM

furiousxgeorge: Don't worry, they are only banning sugary drinks. HFCS is not sugar.


headline of the article says sugary, but its anything sweetened except for milkshakes and coffee (why?)

Lawrence Goins, 50, a postal worker who lives in Newark, took a more pragmatic approach.

"Some of those movies are three, three and a half hours long," Mr. Goins said. "You got to quench your thirst."


um, soda makes you more thirsty no?
 
2012-05-31 04:02:00 AM
New York is getting pretty stupid with the food rules.

They are probably one of the healthier cities as they have to walk everywhere.
 
2012-05-31 04:02:29 AM
HFCS trifecta in play?
 
2012-05-31 04:03:12 AM
"New York City is not about wringing your hands; it's about doing something," he said. "I think that's what the public wants the mayor to do."

Quatchi to Nanny Bloomers:

HOW ABOUT NO?!

This has to be the most absolutely, ridiculously, over-simplified non solutions EVAH.

Not so much a "do-gooder" as a "do-dumber".

/Fark the Nanny state with a pixie stick!
 
2012-05-31 04:04:00 AM
So... What's the obesity rate like in a city known for everybody WALKING EVERYWHERE? And fifth floor walk-ups.

And I don't mean that in a rhetorical fashion. Seriously, is NYC fat or just is Bloomberg just grandstanding? Oh, and I see he's going easy on the fruit juice. You know, when you take a fruit and render it free of filling and useful fiber.

Why not ban the individual use of elevators without a permit? Require four mile minimums on taxi rides. Get rid of buses. Flood the subways and let people row to work.
 
2012-05-31 04:04:13 AM

dumbobruni: of course, gigantic starbucks frappacinos are still allowed.


Are they? Coffee-based sweetened drinks are not allowed, as well as juice, but lattes and other 51%+ milk products are.

What the hell is in a frappucino anyway?
 
2012-05-31 04:04:57 AM
Well, as long as we're playing Parent-State, can we ban food from movie theatres? People noisily crackling and slurping and crunching is just as bad as the cell phones.

Also, popcorn smells worse than old people.


A local theatre I go to banned children under 16. It's worked fantastically.
 
2012-05-31 04:05:42 AM

Enemabag Jones: They are probably one of the healthier cities as they have to walk everywhere.


wildcardjack: So... What's the obesity rate like in a city known for everybody WALKING EVERYWHERE? And fifth floor walk-ups.

And I don't mean that in a rhetorical fashion. Seriously, is NYC fat or just is Bloomberg just grandstanding? Oh, and I see he's going easy on the fruit juice. You know, when you take a fruit and render it free of filling and useful fiber.


If you gentlemen would RTFA....
 
2012-05-31 04:06:38 AM

wildcardjack: a city known for everybody WALKING EVERYWHERE


Nobody drives in New York, there's too much traffic
 
2012-05-31 04:09:32 AM
good to see amerika keeping the 3rd reich spirit alive and well.

we need The Specials to make a follow-up hit. Rudy's not looking so bad now, eh?

/millionaire billionaire politicians scumbags need to just die
//yes i am bitter that i'm not dictator in charge
 
2012-05-31 04:10:22 AM
How can this possibly help when there are still free refills..or you can buy two. You are trying way too hard Blooms.

How about putting up some e-signs at the beginning of blocks where there is construction like they do on highways. That way, when I'm going down 39th I know that the road is basically shut between 8th and 9th so I don't get stuck between them and get all ragey..

No, he's worried about farking soda.
 
Skr
2012-05-31 04:13:12 AM
Bans like this seem, in practice, to speed up the "higher cost for less product/service" effect.

To bring you 30% less product, we had to increase the price 20%.



Dairy Queen recently pulled this shiat with their Malts. Decreased the large down to the previous medium size and jacked up the price.


Anyways there are stupid "personal responsibility bans" and this ban is one of them.


/not fat, just unhealthy
 
2012-05-31 04:14:28 AM
I've noticed a lot of people pointing out that you can just buy 2 cans/bottles/whatever.

Don't you think that may be the point?

Also, diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones) are exempt from the policy. Hmmm...
 
2012-05-31 04:17:07 AM

publikenemy: How about putting up some e-signs at the beginning of blocks where there is construction like they do on highways. That way, when I'm going down 39th I know that the road is basically shut between 8th and 9th so I don't get stuck between them and get all ragey..


No no no... That doesn't get him national press, and this whole Mayor thing has been "come suck my shriveled cock" for Bloomberg.
 
2012-05-31 04:18:11 AM

dumbobruni: furiousxgeorge: Don't worry, they are only banning sugary drinks. HFCS is not sugar.

headline of the article says sugary, but its anything sweetened except for milkshakes and coffee (why?)

Lawrence Goins, 50, a postal worker who lives in Newark, took a more pragmatic approach.

"Some of those movies are three, three and a half hours long," Mr. Goins said. "You got to quench your thirst."

um, soda makes you more thirsty no?


Nope. Just because it doesn't quench your thirst as well as water doesn't mean it doesn't quench it at all. As with water it depends on how cold it is, though. Warm soda won't do jack for your thirst, but soda fresh out of the machine or fridge or whatever is actually very refreshing in my experience. Not healthy, but refreshing.
 
2012-05-31 04:18:17 AM
The measure would not apply to diet sodas, fruit juices, dairy-based drinks like milkshakes, or alcoholic beverages; it would not extend to beverages sold in grocery or convenience stores.

Diet sodas taste like ASS, people. To me, artificial sweeteners generally taste like kerosene and rotting bananas. I'm serious- genetic factors establish perception to a large degree, and that's what I get from them.

The health value of fruit juices doesn't hold up to scrutiny. They have basically the same sugar as soda. They do have vitamins, but generally you don't NEED these. Who gets scurvy anymore?? Pretty damn unlikely- there's vitamin C in ketchup, and getting more in any form is of no additional value.

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LOL they're banning anything "under 70% fruit juice and over 16 oz". Well, smoothies! That's an interesting case... some blend with milk, yogurt, or honey, easily not "70% juice". Or carrot juice- a carrot is not a fruit. Arguably a pureed fruit is not actually a "juice" either, and if you centrifugally separated it into pulp and juice, you might be under 70% juice.

Oddly enough, simply diluting fruit juice with water could make it over 16 oz and under 70% juice, therefore illegal. Well, any of the proscribed drinks, if you took a legally sized small drink and diluted it over 16 oz would be illegal.

Hmm new market- we sell 16oz drinks with the soda machine tinkered with so it dispenses double the syrup, all the goodness of 32oz in a 16oz package!
 
2012-05-31 04:22:26 AM
Guess they are going with "If you buy one cup you are inclined to empty it, while you might be reluctant to buy a second one".

But...don't most of those "restaurants" got free refills anyway ?
 
2012-05-31 04:22:53 AM
1. I rarely drink soda.
2. I think mass soda consumption is one of the least healthy parts of the American diet (and that's saying something).
3. This law is retarded.
 
2012-05-31 04:23:35 AM
That's just stupid.
 
2012-05-31 04:24:15 AM

dumbobruni: furiousxgeorge: Don't worry, they are only banning sugary drinks. HFCS is not sugar.

headline of the article says sugary, but its anything sweetened except for milkshakes and coffee (why?)

Lawrence Goins, 50, a postal worker who lives in Newark, took a more pragmatic approach.

"Some of those movies are three, three and a half hours long," Mr. Goins said. "You got to quench your thirst."

um, soda makes you more thirsty no?


I avoid eating or drinking anything at the movies. I don't want to have to leave the movie for a bathroom break in the middle.
 
2012-05-31 04:24:21 AM

Oznog: The measure would not apply to diet sodas, fruit juices, dairy-based drinks like milkshakes, or alcoholic beverages; it would not extend to beverages sold in grocery or convenience stores.

Diet sodas taste like ASS, people. To me, artificial sweeteners generally taste like kerosene and rotting bananas. I'm serious- genetic factors establish perception to a large degree, and that's what I get from them.

The health value of fruit juices doesn't hold up to scrutiny. They have basically the same sugar as soda. They do have vitamins, but generally you don't NEED these. Who gets scurvy anymore?? Pretty damn unlikely- there's vitamin C in ketchup, and getting more in any form is of no additional value.

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LOL they're banning anything "under 70% fruit juice and over 16 oz". Well, smoothies! That's an interesting case... some blend with milk, yogurt, or honey, easily not "70% juice". Or carrot juice- a carrot is not a fruit. Arguably a pureed fruit is not actually a "juice" either, and if you centrifugally separated it into pulp and juice, you might be under 70% juice.

Oddly enough, simply diluting fruit juice with water could make it over 16 oz and under 70% juice, therefore illegal. Well, any of the proscribed drinks, if you took a legally sized small drink and diluted it over 16 oz would be illegal.

Hmm new market- we sell 16oz drinks with the soda machine tinkered with so it dispenses double the syrup, all the goodness of 32oz in a 16oz package!


This is politics. Your "reason" and "logic" have no place here.
 
2012-05-31 04:32:31 AM
Also, this reminds me of the Daily Show lampooning the San Francisco happy meal ban.

That's right, Bloomberg: You've gone too far left for even the mayor of friggin' San Francisco to agree with you.
 
2012-05-31 04:34:12 AM
can't wait until some caffeine addict pops a cap in this moron.
 
2012-05-31 04:39:15 AM
Will I still be able to get supersized diet pop? What about pitchers of beer, which range from 500 calories for light beer to 1000 calories for dark beer, all of which comes from carbs? Fark, what kind of world won't let you wash down pizza with a pitcher of beer?

wildcardjack: So... What's the obesity rate like in a city known for everybody WALKING EVERYWHERE? And fifth floor walk-ups.

And I don't mean that in a rhetorical fashion. Seriously, is NYC fat or just is Bloomberg just grandstanding? Oh, and I see he's going easy on the fruit juice. You know, when you take a fruit and render it free of filling and useful fiber.


He's just trying to prevent another Giuliani.
 
2012-05-31 04:40:43 AM

Oznog: Oddly enough, simply diluting fruit juice with water could make it over 16 oz and under 70% juice, therefore illegal. Well, any of the proscribed drinks, if you took a legally sized small drink and diluted it over 16 oz would be illegal.


That could make for some interesting panel questions. Get up with a 16oz bottle of juice and a cup of ice, pour the juice over the ice and say "Mayor, at what point is this illegal?"
 
2012-05-31 04:42:26 AM
starsrift
Enemabag Jones: They are probably one of the healthier cities as they have to walk everywhere.
If you gentlemen would RTFA....


I scanned it. What did I miss?

/If I missed something fine, but please don't be cryptic.
 
2012-05-31 04:43:43 AM
"Some of those movies are three, three and a half hours long," Mr. Goins said. "You got to quench your thirst."

I feel your pain, Mr. Goins, every minute of The Hangover felt like an hour... but you might want to get your watch checked out anyway - the only movie that's been released over three hours in theaters in years is the Titanic 3D rerelease.
 
2012-05-31 04:43:57 AM
When the anti-smoking Nazis got their way in bars they laid the groundwork for this type of thing. If you didn't see something like this coming after that happened then you are an idiot.
 
2012-05-31 04:47:09 AM
First they took The Deuce and gave it to Disney. Then they took the trans-fats, the pizzas and the calzones. Then they raised cigarettes to $11 a pack. Now they take the Big Gulps and Venti Lattes. Fun City is now No-Fun City unless you're a soccer mom with 3 kids or a vegan hipster. It's now Greenwich CT with cursing and smog. Soon they'll ban cursing too.
 
2012-05-31 04:47:12 AM
 
2012-05-31 04:47:36 AM

Radioactive Ass: When the anti-smoking Nazis got their way in bars they laid the groundwork for this type of thing. If you didn't see something like this coming after that happened then you are an idiot.


Yes, because of all the thousands of people keeling over from second-hand diabetes. And you know, just the other day, some guy coughed near me after eating a cheeseburger and my cholesterol skyrocketed.
 
2012-05-31 04:50:03 AM
If only we could pass more laws ... sigh ... with more laws we'd all be safe and happy.
 
2012-05-31 04:50:24 AM

Spaced Lion: I've noticed a lot of people pointing out that you can just buy 2 cans/bottles/whatever.

Don't you think that may be the point?

Also, diet sodas (which have been proven to be more detrimental to health than regular ones) are exempt from the policy. Hmmm...


By quacks who have something to sell you, yes. By actual scientists, no. Unless you think any bottlers actually use saccharin and aspartame anymore....
 
2012-05-31 04:57:55 AM

Enemabag Jones: starsrift
Enemabag Jones: They are probably one of the healthier cities as they have to walk everywhere.
If you gentlemen would RTFA....

I scanned it. What did I miss?

/If I missed something fine, but please don't be cryptic.


Near the bottom of the first page: In New York City, where more than half of adults are obese or overweight, Dr. Thomas Farley, the health commissioner, blames sweetened drinks for up to half of the increase in city obesity rates over the last 30 years. About a third of New Yorkers drink one or more sugary drinks a day, according to the city. Dr. Farley said the city had seen higher obesity rates in neighborhoods where soda consumption was more common.
 
2012-05-31 04:59:48 AM

ImpendingCynic: Radioactive Ass: When the anti-smoking Nazis got their way in bars they laid the groundwork for this type of thing. If you didn't see something like this coming after that happened then you are an idiot.

Yes, because of all the thousands of people keeling over from second-hand diabetes. And you know, just the other day, some guy coughed near me after eating a cheeseburger and my cholesterol skyrocketed.


There are thousands of people keeling over from second hand smoke? You do realize that that EPA study was found to be wrong and that it's conclusions were driven by politics and not science right?
 
2012-05-31 05:02:45 AM

Oznog: Hmm new market- we sell 16oz drinks with the soda machine tinkered with so it dispenses double the syrup, all the goodness of 32oz in a 16oz package!


www.huttsez.com

Likes where this thread is going.


/Hot.
 
2012-05-31 05:12:35 AM

Virtuoso80: 1. I rarely drink soda.
2. I think mass soda consumption is one of the least healthy parts of the American diet (and that's saying something).
3. This law is retarded.


Except some Americans, want government to pay for things like their health care. If we, the tax payers are going to be forced into that position we have a right to take measures to control costs . That means controlling things that may impact theri health.

SInce we face legal issues if we just try to reglated what the fat and obese consume (cannot discriminate against the fat and obese) we have to take the elementary school approach and punish the whole class for the actions of a few.
In this case it means a perfectly healthy person with 8% body fat cannot get a large coke in NYC just the same as a beach ball with lips cannot.

If you do not want government control do not accept /demand government money because you do not get one without the other.

Health Care Reform (Obamacare) is not about providing health care, it is about obtaining power.
 
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