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(Cracked)   Seven famous musicians who stole some of their biggest hits. Difficulty: they consider Green Day to be "famous" and "musicians"   (cracked.com) divider line 261
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2012-05-30 09:32:08 PM  
65 million albums sold worldwide and 5 Grammys. I'd say they are famous musicians.
 
2012-05-30 09:42:12 PM  
I actually like American Idiot, but I'm a sucker for theme albums. Flame away.
 
2012-05-30 09:43:14 PM  
On John Williams: Check out John Williams' theme back to back with Dvorak's Symphony No. 9:

An ascending half step is hardly copyright-worthy. Otherwise, the "two bits" part of "shave and a haircut" would also be an egregious copy.
 
2012-05-30 09:45:00 PM  
I'm not fan of green day at all, but hey subby, how many albums have you released? How many copies have you sold? Just sayin.
 
2012-05-30 10:21:47 PM  
Author clearly isnt very knowledgeable because this list could have been a lot better...

The Rolling Stones
Led Zeppelin
Van Halen

The biggest names have all ripped off someone else. And so what?

Next: did you know that comedian stole that joke from someone else?
 
2012-05-30 10:22:57 PM  
Great read.

I LOL'd.

DESPISE The Strokes.

/asked Julian about that riff when he was on the Stern Show
//he laughed it off and said, "yeah...we had to answer for that in court"
 
2012-05-30 10:37:23 PM  
The Verve/The Rolling Stones
 
2012-05-30 10:39:38 PM  

GAT_00: I actually like American Idiot, but I'm a sucker for theme albums. Flame away.


Good album, I thought.
 
2012-05-30 11:17:37 PM  
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2012-05-30 11:41:09 PM  
Music works like this all the freakin' time. Virtually no one cares much.
 
2012-05-30 11:58:10 PM  
List fails horribly without Elvis.

I mean, come on... the whole reason Rock and Roll gained mainstream acceptance was because an attractive white man covered all the black rock and roll songs and made them palatable for mass consumption in the '50s.
 
2012-05-31 12:02:16 AM  

Godscrack: [img593.imageshack.us image 520x427]


Exactly.

Exhibit "A"

"Blinded by the Light" is a song written and originally recorded by Bruce Springsteen, although it is mostly known by its 1976 #1 hit version recorded by Manfred Mann's Earth Band.

Source
 
2012-05-31 12:15:15 AM  
I like Cracked links and I read them, but before I read the rest of this one I want to point out this line:

lot of people accuse hip-hop artists of stealing their best music. You can't get through a rap song nowadays without hearing bits and snippets of other popular songs that have been "sampled" in.

Not nowadays. Most rap songs nowadays are combining a singer and original albeit simple beats and harmony phrases.

Maybe you were thinking about 25 years ago.
 
2012-05-31 12:21:03 AM  
i.imgur.com
Simpsons Did It
 
2012-05-31 12:22:58 AM  
The music industry is a pretty dirty business. I don't know why it's such a big deal to steal a riff or two. We're all about remixes and remakes anyway, why put the reigns on them to make it sound more like the original song?
 
2012-05-31 12:31:33 AM  
Wow.
 
2012-05-31 01:12:54 AM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: An ascending half step is hardly copyright-worthy. Otherwise, the "two bits" part of "shave and a haircut" would also be an egregious copy.


Not to mention that Dvorak died in 1904, so Williams could have ripped entire passages and shoved it into his music if he wanted and had it be legal, acceptable and really, it's part of the point of having a public domain.

It's not all about being able to freely distribute copyrighted works. You build on top of the public domain.
 
2012-05-31 01:35:52 AM  

nekom: I'm not fan of green day at all, but hey subby, how many albums have you released? How many copies have you sold? Just sayin.


Green Day has also sold farkloads of t-shirts to teenagers. I bet subby has only sold several t-shirts to teenagers.
 
2012-05-31 01:35:54 AM  
Yeah subby, Green Day are quite famous and also they're very good musicians.
 
2012-05-31 01:36:23 AM  

houndoggie: 65 million albums sold worldwide and 5 Grammys. I'd say they are famous musicians.


FTFY.
 
2012-05-31 01:38:19 AM  
2 of John Cougar Mellencamp's big hits were swiped from other musicians:

For "Jack and Diane", he stole from Steve Miller's "Take the Money and Run"

Same story telling lyrics, same hand clapping, and an eerily similar opening line:

"This is the story of Jack and Diane, two American kids doing the best they can" vs.

""This is the story of Bobby Joe and Billy Sue, two young lovers with nothing better to do""

And Mellencamp also swiped "The Authority Song" from Bobby Fuller's "I fought the Law"
 
2012-05-31 01:41:22 AM  

Gunderson: Same story telling lyrics, same hand clapping, and an eerily similar opening line:


The songs are vaguely similar, doesn't mean Mellencamp swiped anything.
 
2012-05-31 01:41:23 AM  
Musicians stealing riffs from other musicians?!

This is unheard of! Quick, someone tell the president!
 
2012-05-31 01:43:23 AM  
 
2012-05-31 01:43:36 AM  

dameron: Not to mention that Dvorak died in 1904, so Williams could have ripped entire passages and shoved it into his music if he wanted and had it be legal, acceptable and really, it's part of the point of having a public domain.


Never mind that in the old days composers used to borrow from each others work all the time. The opening of Beethoven's Fifth, isn't original. Sure the arrangement is original to Beethoven but the actual theme? Not his work.
 
GOB
2012-05-31 01:44:36 AM  

Relatively Obscure: Music works like this all the freakin' time. Virtually no one cares much.


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2012-05-31 01:47:29 AM  

WhyteRaven74: Yeah subby, Green Day are quite famous


Granted.

WhyteRaven74: and also they're very good musicians.


Denied!
 
2012-05-31 01:54:02 AM  

fusillade762: No Nirvana vs Killing Joke?

Killing Joke also sued Nirvana during this phase, alleging that the riff for the latter's song "Come as You Are" was copied from the riff for their song "Eighties".[10][11] The lawsuit was dropped after the sudden death of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain.[27]


Its a wonder Tom Scholz never sued them for how much "Smells Like Teen Spirit" sounds like "More Than A Feeling".
Then again, Boston ripped off "Louie Louie" for that, so maybe not such a wonder.
 
2012-05-31 01:54:54 AM  
I'm not a huge green day fan, but your lawn sucks submitter.
 
2012-05-31 01:57:51 AM  
No-one tell the author of that article about the Beastie Boys.

They might not be able to handle it ...
 
2012-05-31 02:02:36 AM  

SilentStrider: fusillade762: No Nirvana vs Killing Joke?

Killing Joke also sued Nirvana during this phase, alleging that the riff for the latter's song "Come as You Are" was copied from the riff for their song "Eighties".[10][11] The lawsuit was dropped after the sudden death of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain.[27]

Its a wonder Tom Scholz never sued them for how much "Smells Like Teen Spirit" sounds like "More Than A Feeling".
Then again, Boston ripped off "Louie Louie" for that, so maybe not such a wonder.


The ultimate song.
 
2012-05-31 02:06:26 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: List fails horribly without Elvis.

I mean, come on... the whole reason Rock and Roll gained mainstream acceptance was because an attractive white man covered all the black rock and roll songs and made them palatable for mass consumption in the '50s.



If covering a few Otis Blackwell songs == "all the black rock and roll songs" then yes, he did that. But more accurately he covered songs by a wide variety of country, rhythm and blues, and gospel artists and other varied songwriters.
 
2012-05-31 02:08:59 AM  

Beerguy: Godscrack: [img593.imageshack.us image 520x427]

Exactly.

Exhibit "A"

"Blinded by the Light" is a song written and originally recorded by Bruce Springsteen, although it is mostly known by its 1976 #1 hit version recorded by Manfred Mann's Earth Band.

Source



Why are people having such trouble distinguishing between doing a cover version, and stealing a song and claiming it as your original work?
 
2012-05-31 02:11:26 AM  
They left out one for Green Day

Brain Stew

25 or 6 to 4

Similar lyrical themes (mind numbed after a long night of drug abuse), main riff is almost identical.
 
2012-05-31 02:12:17 AM  
Good article but I think the whole idea of limited musical variety in pop music is far more aptly summed up with the song "Four Chords" by Axis of Awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ
 
2012-05-31 02:16:52 AM  
Sorry, meant to write "lack of orginiality" more than "lack of variety"
 
2012-05-31 02:17:17 AM  
Nirvana's Nevermind is an almost song for song copy of The Tinkler's Casserole. The lyrics are absolutely the same in most of the songs, same order, same melodies, same drumbeats, but with electric guitar instead of acoustic instruments.
 
2012-05-31 02:23:29 AM  

Snapper Carr: They left out one for Green Day

Brain Stew

25 or 6 to 4

Similar lyrical themes (mind numbed after a long night of drug abuse), main riff is almost identical.


Huh. Never noticed that and I love 25 or 6 to 4. Green Day not so much.
 
2012-05-31 02:28:24 AM  
You guys act like Green Day are the Milli Vanilli of Rock. GD's songs are good.
 
2012-05-31 02:30:01 AM  

Snapper Carr: They left out one for Green Day

Brain Stew

25 or 6 to 4

Similar lyrical themes (mind numbed after a long night of drug abuse), main riff is almost identical.


Really? That's "almost identical?" A two-strum riff versus a five-strum riff is "almost identical"? Plus the fact that Chicago puts in drums and a horn section before the verse start, whereas GD starts immediately.

/Chicago fan.
//Other than the same progression, they're nothing alike.
///What's next, claiming everyone rips of Pachelbel's Canon?
 
2012-05-31 02:36:18 AM  

IlGreven: Really? That's "almost identical?" A two-strum riff versus a five-strum riff is "almost identical"? Plus the fact that Chicago puts in drums and a horn section before the verse start, whereas GD starts immediately.


Under Pressure's goes: "da da da dada da da \ da da da dada da da" and Ice Ice Baby's goes: "da da da dada da da \ DA da da da dada da da"

Completely different songs
 
2012-05-31 02:38:14 AM  
Daft Punk pretty much made their career on stealing funk songs and barely changing them. Among the folks & songs they stole from:

Edwin Birdsong "Cola Bottle Baby"
George Duke "I Love You More"
Anthony and the Imperials "Can You Imagine"
Barry Manilow "Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed"
Breakwater "Release the Beast"

Yes, all the coolest parts of the best Daft Punk songs were composed 20 years ago by funk musicians.

That said, they seem to have eased up on that practice, and the TRON soundtrack was damned good.

And no matter how much they stole, they aren't anywhere near as bad as Timbaland, who not only steals licks, but steals WHOLE SONGS and then just adds drums, or a vocal track, or just changes the speed and calls it his. He doesn't even bother to play it himself-- He just plays someone else's music from beginning to end.

And to those who say this is "sampling", you're wrong. Sampling is when you take small pieces of other songs and put them together to make something new, as if you're making a collage out of music. What Timbaland does is to take entire songs or several measures, and slightly changes them before claiming authorship... In other words, the man is an outright plagiarist.

You can research it on YouTube. It's late... I don't have time to post links.
 
2012-05-31 02:40:30 AM  

Snapper Carr: IlGreven: Really? That's "almost identical?" A two-strum riff versus a five-strum riff is "almost identical"? Plus the fact that Chicago puts in drums and a horn section before the verse start, whereas GD starts immediately.

Under Pressure's goes: "da da da dada da da \ da da da dada da da" and Ice Ice Baby's goes: "da da da dada da da \ DA da da da dada da da"

Completely different songs


Oh, man..! You get points for actually quoting Vanilla Ice's lame defense as seen on Mtv all those years ago. Good one.
 
mjg
2012-05-31 02:44:12 AM  
List fails without mention of Coldplay ripping off Joe Satriani.
 
2012-05-31 02:47:06 AM  
All hit songs are the same.
Link
 
2012-05-31 02:49:30 AM  

Snapper Carr: They left out one for Green Day


25 or 6 to 4



ripped off the end of...

Babe, I'm Gonna Leave You
 
2012-05-31 03:02:29 AM  
The ever-intriguing rock critic Will Shade went on a tear about Jimmy Page. It seemed to both cement Shade's reputation as over-the-top and affect Page not at all: Thieving Magpies.
 
2012-05-31 03:04:29 AM  

kmmontandon: No-one tell the author of that article about the Beastie Boys.

They might not be able to handle it ...


Not sure if sampling = stealing necessarily.
 
2012-05-31 03:08:38 AM  
I give them credit for the Radiohead "Creep" thing as I'd missed that.

But they utterly fail, as a number of the stolen songs weren't the bands/artists' "biggest.

And they forgot this:

Flaming Lips v. Cat Stevens

which lead to Cat Stevens getting a co-writing credit on "Flight Test".
 
2012-05-31 03:11:21 AM  

BSABSVR: I'm not a huge green day fan, but your lawn sucks submitter.


Dude, I'm old enough to remember when Dookie came out and I went "meh, punks did it already."
 
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