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(Reuters)   *DOG WHISTLE* Mitt Romney releases his birth certificate. *DOG WHISTLE* No reason. *DOG WHISTLE* Why do you ask. *DOG WHISTLE*   (reuters.com) divider line 202
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2012-05-30 12:28:30 PM
msnbcmedia1.msn.com

I'm not an expert, but I don't trust any document that has "VOID" written over and over again in the margins.
 
2012-05-30 12:29:19 PM

Rev.K: GET JOE ARPAIO ON THE CASE!


Joe doesn't want to vacation...er investigate in Mexico.
 
2012-05-30 12:30:25 PM

Magorn: I swear to Buddha if one more person cites DeVattel as a legal authority on ANYTHING.....


When you meet that person on the road, cut him down.
 
2012-05-30 12:31:53 PM

Magorn: tkwasny: FlashHarry: well, it does prove that, like obama, his father wasn't born in the US.

interestingly, if romney wins, he'll be the first mexican-american president.

What it doesn't prove is if George Romney was a US citizen at the time of the birth of Mitt Romney. A more strict interpretation of natural born citizen means at the time of the birth BOTH parents are US citizens AND the place of birth is US soil domestic (50 states) or abroad (armed forces bases, Guam, etc.) So says one of the many founding documents used to construct the constitution:


http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

Book 1 Chapter XIX
§ 212. Citizens and natives.

I swear to Buddha if one more person cites DeVattel as a legal authority on ANYTHING.....

He was a Swiss asshole who wrote a book in the 1700's his opinions were NEVER influential or accepted as part of English or American common law the way Blackstone's were, AND he totally reversed his position on "natural born citizenship" later when it was convenient for Switzerland. There is exactly ZERO evidence that ANY of the founding fathers every heard of or read Vattel's writings; he is only popular now because the die hard birthers want another way to declare Obama ineligible now that he's produced a Long form BC

(and they don't realize how many of their own tea party darlings like Rubio this interpretation would knock out of the running for pres or VP)


Vattel was never a legal authority. It was a book of ideas. What evidence is there that ANY of the founding fathers did not refer to the ideas of Vattel, since you obviously have conclusive evidence that is the case, I'd love to see it. I want anyone ineligible to be knocked out of the running or the office if they slipped through. Look at these cases dealing with women rights, etc. that mention citizenship and natural born citizenship.


http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/minorvhapp.html

http://supreme.justia.com/us/143/135/case.html

http://supreme.justia.com/us/193/621/
 
2012-05-30 12:32:52 PM
I do not understand the dog whistle thingy. Perhaps someone can explain.
 
2012-05-30 12:33:27 PM

Lucky LaRue: VOID


It's a watermark on the document that shows up when you photocopy or scan an original.
 
2012-05-30 12:33:47 PM

teenuc: Snarfangel: You're not fooling anyone, Rommeybot 2000. You may have been constructed in Michigan, but that doesn't make you a natural born citizen.

Nothing manufactured in Michican is still running after 60+ years.


my '52 Buick had never had any major mechanical or body work yet still ran & drove beautifully when I sold it a couple years ago. Original radio worked too.
 
2012-05-30 12:34:21 PM

nekom: FlashHarry: interestingly, if romney wins, he'll be the first mexican-american president.

Actually, that would be cool if he actually acknowledged that. Another barrier torn down. It would be cool to see a female POTUS soon as well. But i see no reason to believe Obama won't get a second term, so that will all have to wait.


No no no.


Black President
Mexcian American President
Chinese American President
Midddle Eastern-American President
Quadrapylaegic, Native American President
Down Syndrom, East Ecuidorian President
Woman President
 
2012-05-30 12:34:27 PM

Lucky LaRue: [msnbcmedia1.msn.com image 640x378]

I'm not an expert, but I don't trust any document that has "VOID" written over and over again in the margins.


It only means that this silly bullshiat will make you want to pee.
 
2012-05-30 12:35:17 PM

danielscissorhands: I do not understand the dog whistle thingy. Perhaps someone can explain.


Obama eats dogs.
 
2012-05-30 12:37:20 PM

tkwasny: What evidence is there that ANY of the founding fathers did not refer to the ideas of Vattel


You're asking him to prove a negative? Good luck with that.

According to you, Chester A. Arthur was ineligible because his mother was not born in the US. Clearly he was knocked out of the office, right?

Oh wait, no he wasn't.
 
2012-05-30 12:38:09 PM

LarryDan43: Rev.K: GET JOE ARPAIO ON THE CASE!

Joe doesn't want to vacation...er investigate in Mexico.


I think Joe has a house in San Carlos. Or one of his relatives, I'm not sure.
 
2012-05-30 12:38:47 PM

Lucky LaRue: [msnbcmedia1.msn.com image 640x378]

I'm not an expert, but I don't trust any document that has "VOID" written over and over again in the margins.


Notice how the "voids" are much lighter than the rest of the printing...obviously they tried to doctor it to hide the truth.
 
2012-05-30 12:41:07 PM
Issued in 2012? Mittens must be hiding something. Maybe he's super jealous and wants a birther conspiracy of his own.
 
2012-05-30 12:42:13 PM

tkwasny: Vattel was never a legal authority. It was a book of ideas.


So's Mein Kampf. So is Das Kapital. So what?

tkwasny: What evidence is there that ANY of the founding fathers did not refer to the ideas of Vattel, since you obviously have conclusive evidence that is the case, I'd love to see it.


In other words, you have no proof that the founding fathers even bothered to read or consider this either.

tkwasny: http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/minorvhapp.html

http://supreme.justia.com/us/143/135/case.html

http://supreme.justia.com/us/193/621/


And none of those cases defined what a natural born citizen is.
 
2012-05-30 12:42:14 PM

danielscissorhands: I do not understand the dog whistle thingy. Perhaps someone can explain.


The piezoelectric sensors Mitt employs in his major auditory and vision platform are able to detect sound waves up to 100,000 Hz. Thus, his aides can communicate with him via dog whistles.

Watch the "bomb-sniffing" dogs whenever Mitt is at a debate.
 
2012-05-30 12:46:00 PM
So, it was suggested that George Romney was a citizen because he was born on foreign soil to at least one natural-born citizen?

And what is with the crooked line at the bottom of this document dated 2012? What is Romney hiding? I want to see his long-form Unicorn certificate.
 
2012-05-30 12:48:56 PM

danielscissorhands: I do not understand the dog whistle thingy. Perhaps someone can explain.


The racist dog whistle, as I understand it, is that racists no longer speak in obvious racist terms. Now they have to find ways to talk around racism, so that other racists understand what they are trying to communicate without actually using obvious racism.

"We don't want 'thugs' in our schools," for example, depending on context, could basically be a racist who is REALLY saying he doesn't want black kids there.

A lot of things said about Obama, a centrist compromiser whose ideologies are not particularly different from those of Clinton, Carter, and LBJ, fall into that category.
 
2012-05-30 12:49:17 PM

SharkTrager: I hate Romney, but the faux outrage he released it is stupid.

One of the standard responses to Birthers is "Why don't they make the other guy release his birth certificate if it's so damn important." It only makes sense to release it.


Except that he released his "Certificate of Live Birth" and not his long form birth certificate.

WHAR BIRTH CERTIFICATE ROMNEY WHAR?

Also, something something Pixels.
 
2012-05-30 12:49:24 PM
When will he reveal his planet Kolob birth certificate?
 
2012-05-30 12:49:58 PM

Ricardo Klement: gotye pic


Can someone explain this to me?? It seems like a joke, and I like jokes.... Thanks in advance.
 
2012-05-30 12:50:37 PM
I'm sorry but that Birth certificate is clearly faked.
 
2012-05-30 12:52:25 PM

Lucky LaRue: [msnbcmedia1.msn.com image 640x378]

I'm not an expert, but I don't trust any document that has "VOID" written over and over again in the margins.


I think we need to wait for WND to weigh in on this.
 
2012-05-30 12:53:49 PM

ruetheday69: It's a watermark on the document that shows up when you photocopy or scan an original.


So you agree this image is not the original!

QED. Mitt Romney was never born.

/I demand to see the original image scanned without the VOID message. Since they have the original, it should be easy to produce.
 
2012-05-30 12:54:22 PM

tkwasny: Vattel was never a legal authority.


Why, then, did you cite him as one?

tkwasny: What evidence is there that ANY of the founding fathers did not refer to the ideas of Vattel,


Asking to prove a negative? Nice. Let's try the positive approach, shall we? How about you show us a Founding Father citing deVattel with approval?

tkwasny: Look at these cases dealing with women rights, etc. that mention citizenship and natural born citizenship.


None of which is relevant to your claim that deVattel's work is authoritative.

Do go on, this is quite entertaining.

On the level of this.
 
2012-05-30 12:54:32 PM
There are multiple reasons why Romney released this document.

First, his father was accused by the Democratic Party back in 1968 of not being a "natural born citizen" when he made a short run at being the GOP nominee for President. However, the Democrats failed to realize that unlike the United States, which determines citizenship at birth "Jus Solis" (born of the land), in Mexico, citizenship at birth is determined by "Jus Sanguine" (born of the blood). Since neither of George Romney's parents were citizens of Mexico, neither were any of their children.

Second, it gives the birthers that Mitt is quietly attempting to court a reason to say "See, our guy released his birth certificate without a problem. Why won't the Obama people release the real birth certificate?"

Third, his people want to see if the Obama campaign will rise to the bait and try to start shiat about George Romney having been born on Mexican soil or start a whisper campaign about Mitt being an "anchor baby".

Fourth, the Romney camp hopes it will give them an in with Hispanic voters.

Also, the reason that document reads "VOID" along the sides is due to a security watermark in the paper, to prevent the document from being copied. It only shows up when exposed to high intensity light, such as in a xerographic imaging or reproducer (scanner or copier).
 
2012-05-30 12:55:08 PM

vygramul: A lot of things Pretty much anything said about Obama, a centrist compromiser whose ideologies are not particularly different from those of Clinton, Carter, and LBJ, fall into that category.


See his healthcare reform law as a handout to the health insurance industry? Racist!

Question the timing of his support for gay marriage? Racist!

Oppose his administration's aggressive enforcement of federal immigration and drug laws? Racist!
 
2012-05-30 12:55:56 PM

Dee Snarl: Ricardo Klement: gotye pic

Can someone explain this to me?? It seems like a joke, and I like jokes.... Thanks in advance.


"You didn't have to cut me off," lyric.

The bottom of the bc is cut-off.
 
2012-05-30 12:56:57 PM

poonesfarm: Lucky LaRue: [msnbcmedia1.msn.com image 640x378]

I'm not an expert, but I don't trust any document that has "VOID" written over and over again in the margins.

Notice how the "voids" are much lighter than the rest of the printing...obviously they tried to doctor it to hide the truth.


I know y'all are being sarcastic, but in the interest of heading off genuine derp from literal-minded derpers... that's a security feature of the paper the birth certificate is printed on.

The VOID VOID VOID is minimally visible on the original document, but shows up on photocopies. Alternative usage: some states require prescription pads to have this feature for controlled substances.

I know, I know... [thatsthejoke.jpg]

Both sides make bad comments about the other guy's birf certicat, so vote Republican.

We now return you to the derp thread, already in progress.
 
2012-05-30 12:59:36 PM

GoldSpider: vygramul: A lot of things Pretty much anything said about Obama, a centrist compromiser whose ideologies are not particularly different from those of Clinton, Carter, and LBJ, fall into that category.

See his healthcare reform law as a handout to the health insurance industry? Racist!

Question the timing of his support for gay marriage? Racist!

Oppose his administration's aggressive enforcement of federal immigration and drug laws? Racist!


Of course, objections like this, in the face of obvious racism surrounding questioning his place of birth, gives racists cover, while lying about the fact that people understand the difference between political bullshiat, like going apeshiat over Obama passing the Heritage Foundation's healthcare plan, and racism, like "Obamabucks" distributed by one Republican Committe having KFC and watermelon on it.
 
2012-05-30 01:02:04 PM
I can tell by several pixels of the digitalized version of the birth certificate that I photographed from my TV that Mitt Romney was born in Cuba and that his real father is Fidel Castro. Also, I don't trust any birth certificate that says Michegan Novelty Co. Pat. Pending 1976 on it and has a giant watermark that says "SPECIMEN ONLY. NOT A REAL DOCUMENT." Also, it was made of 100% recycled corn-based bio-degradable plastic. And was notorized by a cat paw print. And the cat mispelled "cat".

Besides the Constitution says that you are not a "natural born citizen" unless you are born in the contiguous 47* states of two white Conservative Protestant American parents of natural born ancestry for at least five generations.

They tell me that Mexico, Panama, Canada, and Guatemala are not real American states. Neither are Puerto Rico, Guam, Alaska, Hawaii, the American Virgin Islands or military bases in Germany.

*I'll be damned if I'm going to recognize Missouri.
 
2012-05-30 01:02:14 PM

Parthenogenetic: The VOID VOID VOID is minimally visible on the original document, but shows up on photocopies.


HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS FORGED AND HE MADE IT ON A PHOTOCOPIER!

*Runs around with a pyramid hat made out of real tin foil, because aluminum foil does jack shiat.*
 
2012-05-30 01:03:30 PM
Why do Farkers ignore this, I figured of anyone you all would be all over this.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-05-30 01:03:59 PM

lennavan: eats


OK...so follow me here....

If Bush Eats Kittens..

www.dailylolpics.com

And Obama eats Puppies...

thepatriotperspective.files.wordpress.com

What is next with Mitt Romney?????


images.cheezburger.com
 
2012-05-30 01:05:01 PM

Praise Cheesus: Also, the reason that document reads "VOID" along the sides is due to a security watermark in the paper, to prevent the document from being copied.


And yet, IT WAS!

J'ACCUSE!
 
2012-05-30 01:05:49 PM
Will he release his college transcripts?
 
WGJ
2012-05-30 01:08:20 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

All this proves is that he's a rat.
 
2012-05-30 01:08:21 PM

WhoIsWillo: Aarontology: You'd have to screen him for nanites to make sure he hasn't taken control of the EMP emitter. Because if you end up with a super powered Romney bot with an EMP gun, then not even the Avengers can save us.

In this case, we would inject Barack Obama with the Super Soldier serum and expose him to high levels of gamma radiation.


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-30 01:15:01 PM

vygramul: Dee Snarl: Ricardo Klement: gotye pic

Can someone explain this to me?? It seems like a joke, and I like jokes.... Thanks in advance.

"You didn't have to cut me off," lyric.

The bottom of the bc is cut-off.


Wow, you guys are up on your Gotye.

Thanks.
 
2012-05-30 01:20:23 PM

JusticeandIndependence: I want to see the extra long form. Why won't Romney release anything about his past? What is he hiding?


Exactly.

My birth certificate is small, has a smudged footprint and some doctors scrawl --- it's looks amateur. It's totally unacceptable for getting anything important so years ago I had to ask my birth state for a new certified digital looking thing and it looks just like Romney's and Obama's.

It's great to know people can't just enter data like that in a computer and *poof* birth certificate, isn't it?
 
2012-05-30 01:21:29 PM
So other than overtly bigoted racism ...why aren't "birthers" demanding Romneys long form birth certificate?
 
2012-05-30 01:26:22 PM
So...that is not an original... Did that security feature exist in 1947?? You know with the "Void" watermark for photocopies
 
2012-05-30 01:30:35 PM

Danger Mouse: Will he release his college transcripts?


I, for one, would like to see his second-marking-period report card from third grade. I really can't understand why he hasn't produced it yet, if he has nothing to hide.
 
2012-05-30 01:30:44 PM

easypray: So other than overtly bigoted racism ...why aren't "birthers" demanding Romneys long form birth certificate?


Some people might be convinced by that, but I'm demanding the director's cut, with additional voice-over commentary by Romney.
 
2012-05-30 01:34:11 PM
It doesn't matter anyway. Romney is just a pale duplicate of Obama. I mean that literally, too... He's just like Obama, but with lighter skin. He's still just a corporate tool, working for the megacorporations and the plutocrats who really own and control everything in our government and our nation.

It doesn't matter who wins. Either way, the President is a useless happy face sticker.
 
2012-05-30 01:35:41 PM

CheekyMonkey: Danger Mouse: Will he release his college transcripts?

I, for one, would like to see his second-marking-period report card from third grade. I really can't understand why he hasn't produced it yet, if he has nothing to hide.


"If Joseph has eight wives, and Brigham has seven, how many wives do they have together?"
 
2012-05-30 01:37:02 PM

cherry_ice_cream: So...that is not an original... Did that security feature exist in 1947?? You know with the "Void" watermark for photocopies


Did photocopiers exist in 1947?

Xerography was invented in the 1959.
 
2012-05-30 01:37:40 PM

WhoIsWillo: Why will Mitt Romney not let us push 10,000 volts of electricity through his body to prove he is not a robot?


upload.wikimedia.org

It's the amperage that you care about.
 
2012-05-30 01:37:59 PM
That doesn't look like the Michigan birth certificate I have.

FAKE!!!!!
 
2012-05-30 01:39:17 PM
Where were the Birthers when George Romney was running? They missed their chance at being correct about something.
 
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