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2012-05-30 03:13:06 AM  

Nrokreffefp: ladyfortuna: I wonder how the guy who rear-ended my car Friday evening rates his driving... according to the thing the police gave me at the hospital he was born in '67 so not exactly a senior citizen, but how else do you explain slamming into a stopped, signaling vehicle that is properly yielding to oncoming traffic ~_~

/my poor car
//and my poor neck, although that at least heals eventually
///fark bad drivers in an uncomfortable place

My guess is that they (you) were looking to cross a double yellow line to turn left, which is illegal and causes many accidents. I have no idea if that is accurate, but I'd put my cash on it.


Nope. I was about to legally turn onto a highway on-ramp that has no traffic light, and was yielding for oncoming traffic with my signal on. Absolutely legal and properly executed. Moron in the pickup truck smashed right into the back of my car; he got tickets and I got an ER visit complete with backboard and neck brace. Still waiting on the accident report to find out exactly what happened. I was basically minding my own business and as far as I know he wasn't paying any attention to what was in front of him. There's also a passing/turn lane on that road right next to where I was, because it's literally right across from the hospital.

I'm incredibly lucky that I wasn't hurt worse, especially since he knocked me into the path of another car. Managed to recover and steer onto the should of the on-ramp instead of hitting them, put car in park, and turn it off before freaking out that my neck was farked up. Seriously excellent response time from all the emergency people; they'll be getting a thank you card at some point here.

/you lost the wager
//your cash, por favor
 
2012-05-30 03:13:46 AM  

Nrokreffefp: cross a double yellow line to turn left, which is illegal


Only sometimes, and that is only if the statute calls out "impeding traffic" at the same time, and that varies from state to state. In NV impeding traffic even slightly while making a left hand turn (just make sure nobody is behind you) will get you a ticket. In all of New England, it won't. Because impeded traffic here is a way of life when all your roads that are not interstates are former cattle paths and Indian trails.

A blanket statement like yours is simply wrong.
 
2012-05-30 03:14:59 AM  

ladyfortuna: also I used to think that way until I tailgated some jerk who did a brake check, and then decided to follow me when I turned onto a different road. That was one of the scariest five minute periods of my driving experience, till I lost them by taking back roads home at rather unsafe speeds. Figured at that point it was less risky than possibly getting shot or something.



It's too funny.
 
2012-05-30 03:15:32 AM  

change1211: Nrokreffefp:

That always sucks, I went through something like that a few years ago. Just make sure you get all the care you need, soft tissue injuries take a very long time to get better.


Thanks! Good to know; luckily I work from home so can take it pretty easy for a while. I did have a not so fun spell at the grocery this evening where it felt like getting stabbed through the right half of my skull, but the heating pad helps.
 
2012-05-30 03:16:56 AM  

Quaker: Then you need to tailgate the shiat out of them.


Tailgating is dangerous and passive aggressive. Never tailgate. If you want to warn another driver, use the horn.
 
2012-05-30 03:17:27 AM  

bel4sucks: ladyfortuna: also I used to think that way until I tailgated some jerk who did a brake check, and then decided to follow me when I turned onto a different road. That was one of the scariest five minute periods of my driving experience, till I lost them by taking back roads home at rather unsafe speeds. Figured at that point it was less risky than possibly getting shot or something.


It's too funny.


There was more to it, he was being a douche up ahead of me for a while. Also I was about 10 years younger and stupider. (Not saying I'm not still stupid, just less so). This time of night I have clarity issues with my posts.
 
2012-05-30 03:19:53 AM  

zepillin: 97% of turn signal use is superfluous,other than that; yeah


So farking what? Yes, it's a turn-only lane, yes I'm stopped at at light. No, there's nobody else out at 4am in the middle of nowhere. It's not hurting anyone and it should be a reflex. Use the farking signal, it's important.

//taken to using it when backing out
 
2012-05-30 03:22:15 AM  

ladyfortuna: change1211: Nrokreffefp:

That always sucks, I went through something like that a few years ago. Just make sure you get all the care you need, soft tissue injuries take a very long time to get better.

Thanks! Good to know; luckily I work from home so can take it pretty easy for a while. I did have a not so fun spell at the grocery this evening where it felt like getting stabbed through the right half of my skull, but the heating pad helps.


Heh, when I got hit I was right in the middle of final exams, it was pretty hard to take a test when you couldn't move your neck at all.

Heating pads, a very good pillow and a good physiotherapist are three of the things that got me through my accident.

Poor car though, I got hit while stopped at a red by a SUV with big steel bars going around 80km/hr. Was less than fun. They ended up having to use the jaws to get my trunk open and the fire truck ran over my calculator!
 
2012-05-30 03:23:59 AM  
I was at a gas station over the weekend when a tiny, old lady asked me for help pumping her gas. She said her arthritis made it painful to squeeze the handle, and she apparently didn't know how to work the auto-pump doohickey. Sympathetic, i agreed to assist. The moment I squeezed the handle, gas came pouring out of the tank because it was already full. Apparently, she'd gotten a fill-up just a few minutes earlier, but had forgotten.

/CSB
 
2012-05-30 03:25:24 AM  
Ooof, change1211, fortunately mine wasn't as bad as yours. They gave me the soft collar and I stopped wearing it last night (partly because OMG hot the last couple of days). Probably just did too much running around today trying to catch up.
 
2012-05-30 03:26:59 AM  
The worst drivers by far are males in their teens or twenties.

Ask anyone who works for an insurance company.
 
2012-05-30 03:32:10 AM  

ladyfortuna: Ooof, change1211, fortunately mine wasn't as bad as yours. They gave me the soft collar and I stopped wearing it last night (partly because OMG hot the last couple of days). Probably just did too much running around today trying to catch up.


I was pretty lucky, my car destroyed itself in order to protect me, it was around six inches shorter, the engine had somehow dented the hood and my seat had broken to soften the blow. It was quite confusing, I remember thinking to myself 'Hey, why am I leaning so far back, my seat doesn't even go this far back' followed by 'Hmm, the smoke pillowing from my engine doesn't look very good, I should leave.'

I guess it worked out in the end, I eventually got better and traded a Gold 99 XK8 Coupe for a '05 black convertible because of how much my insurance overpaid for the car.
 
2012-05-30 03:32:57 AM  

phlegmmo: ...none of the study participants rated their driving as poor and fewer than 1 percent rated their driving as fair...

That's probably true for every age group. Hell, all the people I know think they're above average drivers -- and many are not.


You can quantify driving skill. Miles driven in the last year * accidents in the last 3 years * average driving speed. Luck does play a part, as does being forced to drive overly fatigued, but if the skill isn't there, one of those is going to trip up anyone who thinks they're more skilled than they are.

Let's give those maps from the other thread the force of law at DMV offices.

/I'd be considered moderately highly skilled by that measure, so of course I'd propose it.
//I freely admit that I don't measure up to a number of people I know, and that just my own skills aren't the only factor on the road.
///I still hate spaced-out idiots and codgers anyway.
 
2012-05-30 03:35:03 AM  

moothemagiccow: zepillin: 97% of turn signal use is superfluous,other than that; yeah

So farking what? Yes, it's a turn-only lane, yes I'm stopped at at light. No, there's nobody else out at 4am in the middle of nowhere. It's not hurting anyone and it should be a reflex. Use the farking signal, it's important.

//taken to using it when backing out


LOL, actually it's not important at all, except to avoid startling other drivers in tight merge situations it serves no purpose what so ever

driving by assumption and expectations instead by what is actually happening on the road is no way to go to town, sonny
 
2012-05-30 03:38:34 AM  

Gimmick: I was at a gas station over the weekend when a tiny, old lady asked me for help pumping her gas. She said her arthritis made it painful to squeeze the handle, and she apparently didn't know how to work the auto-pump doohickey. Sympathetic, i agreed to assist. The moment I squeezed the handle, gas came pouring out of the tank because it was already full. Apparently, she'd gotten a fill-up just a few minutes earlier, but had forgotten.

/CSB


And this is why I ride my bike on the sidewalk kids. (There are almost zero pedestrians where I ride, so don't flip out on me)
 
2012-05-30 03:41:39 AM  
and I'll leave the turn signal on for ya ; )
 
2012-05-30 03:43:08 AM  

Old enough to know better: Gimmick: I was at a gas station over the weekend when a tiny, old lady asked me for help pumping her gas. She said her arthritis made it painful to squeeze the handle, and she apparently didn't know how to work the auto-pump doohickey. Sympathetic, i agreed to assist. The moment I squeezed the handle, gas came pouring out of the tank because it was already full. Apparently, she'd gotten a fill-up just a few minutes earlier, but had forgotten.

/CSB

And this is why I ride my bike on the sidewalk kids. (There are almost zero pedestrians where I ride, so don't flip out on me)


Strangely my town didn't get the memo about driving everywhere, so it really is dangerous to ride on the sidewalks. I wish it were otherwise some days. Basically my town just sucks for riding, period.

zepillin: moothemagiccow: zepillin: 97% of turn signal use is superfluous,other than that; yeah

So farking what? Yes, it's a turn-only lane, yes I'm stopped at at light. No, there's nobody else out at 4am in the middle of nowhere. It's not hurting anyone and it should be a reflex. Use the farking signal, it's important.

//taken to using it when backing out

LOL, actually it's not important at all, except to avoid startling other drivers in tight merge situations it serves no purpose what so ever

driving by assumption and expectations instead by what is actually happening on the road is no way to go to town, sonny


Yeah, using my turn signal certainly made no difference to the moron who plowed into me... but it did for the purposes of not getting a ticket of my very own!

They come with the car... use them.
 
2012-05-30 03:50:01 AM  

change1211:

Heh, when I got hit I was right in the middle of final exams, it was pretty hard to take a test when you couldn't move your neck at all.


Yeah, there's always a spate of car accidents during finals week.

\Oh? You mean it really happened and it wasn't an excuse to get out of a final?
 
2012-05-30 03:51:13 AM  

ladyfortuna: They come with the car... use them.


So do the airbags. Use them.
 
2012-05-30 03:53:13 AM  

Bunnyhat:
And police need to pull people a lot less for speeding and more for things like following to closely, not using turn signals, running red lights, texting while driving, etc etc.
I would bet that following cars to closely ends up causing more preventable accidents then speeding alone does.


This is what they do in Germany. You can go as fast as you like on the Autobahn but if you tailgate or do anything except pay attention to the road they'll come down on you like a ton of bricks.

/ There's *lots* of police cars on the Autobahn.
// It always feels wrong to speed past one, even though you know it's allowed.
 
2012-05-30 04:02:00 AM  

bubo_sibiricus: Nrokreffefp: cross a double yellow line to turn left, which is illegal

Only sometimes, and that is only if the statute calls out "impeding traffic" at the same time, and that varies from state to state. In NV impeding traffic even slightly while making a left hand turn (just make sure nobody is behind you) will get you a ticket. In all of New England, it won't. Because impeded traffic here is a way of life when all your roads that are not interstates are former cattle paths and Indian trails.

A blanket statement like yours is simply wrong.


All blanket statements are wrong. Every single one of them.
 
2012-05-30 04:12:35 AM  
You're driving like a bat out of Hades!

adland.tv
 
2012-05-30 04:20:46 AM  

ladyfortuna: Old enough to know better: Gimmick: I was at a gas station over the weekend when a tiny, old lady asked me for help pumping her gas. She said her arthritis made it painful to squeeze the handle, and she apparently didn't know how to work the auto-pump doohickey. Sympathetic, i agreed to assist. The moment I squeezed the handle, gas came pouring out of the tank because it was already full. Apparently, she'd gotten a fill-up just a few minutes earlier, but had forgotten.

/CSB

And this is why I ride my bike on the sidewalk kids. (There are almost zero pedestrians where I ride, so don't flip out on me)

Strangely my town didn't get the memo about driving everywhere, so it really is dangerous to ride on the sidewalks. I wish it were otherwise some days. Basically my town just sucks for riding, period.

zepillin: moothemagiccow: zepillin: 97% of turn signal use is superfluous,other than that; yeah

So farking what? Yes, it's a turn-only lane, yes I'm stopped at at light. No, there's nobody else out at 4am in the middle of nowhere. It's not hurting anyone and it should be a reflex. Use the farking signal, it's important.

//taken to using it when backing out

LOL, actually it's not important at all, except to avoid startling other drivers in tight merge situations it serves no purpose what so ever

driving by assumption and expectations instead by what is actually happening on the road is no way to go to town, sonny

Yeah, using my turn signal certainly made no difference to the moron who plowed into me... but it did for the purposes of not getting a ticket of my very own!

They come with the car... use them.


In this case I am the decider, what I do goes
suck it up you impotent little snit
 
2012-05-30 04:21:13 AM  

Pichu0102: I'm glad all those public transportation plans got axed and people without transportation get 13 block long four lane traffic roads with no crosswalk between those 13 blocks.


Eh, it's worse than that. A lot of cities already had decent public transportation, not just plans, but tore them out for improvements that would allow more car traffic. And now those same cities complain that they don't have the money to completely rebuild their transportation system. When they could have instead kept what public transportation they had and maintained and updated it over the years. Fact is, most of them don't want to give their citizens decent public transit anyway, and at this point the citizens don't really want it either.

So now most families have two or more cars, and everyone is reliant on them, so we have failing roads, congestion, massive reliance on gasoline, not to mention any newer neighborhoods are generally built with horrible layouts for anything but driving a car. So how do we get back to decent and reliable public transportation? It will take a long time, if at all, or extremely outrageous gas prices, before that happens. No one is going to put money into something that people mostly don't seem to be interested in. People will complain about gas but still use their SUV to run across town for a gallon of milk, so the chance of a new public transit system being utilized to the extent that will cover its cost, or people willing to pay fairly high taxes in the beginning for something like that is low in most cities.

And with insurers, carmakers, oil companies, government, etc., all making their buck from people having multiple cars, there are plenty that will do anything in their power to make sure people don't really want that.

What I'd like to see implemented in various cities is something similar to the electric bus system in downtown Chattanooga. It's clean, and they stop on a pretty constant basis, 24/7. When we were there, we didn't even end up driving, since it was easier to hop the bus, and if we drank we didn't have to worry about getting a cab and leaving our car somewhere, try to walk back in an unfamiliar are, or risking a DUI trying to make it back to the hotel.
Obviously that's is a fairly small area, but I don't see why similar couldn't be done in many cities, at least having various buses service certain parts of the city (like around areas that have a lot of people, restaurants, bars, etc.), to relieve congestion. That way at least people could park somewhere once they got off the hwy, or main route, and catch the bus, which would relieve the congestion of stop and go traffic, and parking problems, during busy hours in areas like that.
 
2012-05-30 05:57:52 AM  

zepillin: moothemagiccow: zepillin: 97% of turn signal use is superfluous,other than that; yeah

So farking what? Yes, it's a turn-only lane, yes I'm stopped at at light. No, there's nobody else out at 4am in the middle of nowhere. It's not hurting anyone and it should be a reflex. Use the farking signal, it's important.

//taken to using it when backing out

LOL, actually it's not important at all, except to avoid startling other drivers in tight merge situations it serves no purpose what so ever

driving by assumption and expectations instead by what is actually happening on the road is no way to go to town, sonny


I bet you're one of those assholes who doesn't move when an ambulance is coming
 
2012-05-30 06:19:20 AM  

untaken_name: bubo_sibiricus: Nrokreffefp: cross a double yellow line to turn left, which is illegal

Only sometimes, and that is only if the statute calls out "impeding traffic" at the same time, and that varies from state to state. In NV impeding traffic even slightly while making a left hand turn (just make sure nobody is behind you) will get you a ticket. In all of New England, it won't. Because impeded traffic here is a way of life when all your roads that are not interstates are former cattle paths and Indian trails.

A blanket statement like yours is simply wrong.

All blanket statements are wrong. Every single one of them.


You do realize that you are extremely annoying... right? I would guess that you are someone's red headed stepchild. no one else would have you.

Can you go away now (and hopefully forever)? If not, I'll have to log off for the couple of hours that would be your lifetime. Flies only live for a couple of hours... right?

And just so you know, I have a battery operated fly swatter. And I DO know how to use it.

Now shut up and go away little man (yes, I like some of the old school stuff). But I am certain it is wasted on you. But you going away would be a nice gesture.
 
2012-05-30 06:45:35 AM  
Eighty-five percent of senior U.S. drivers don't want to have to re-take a driving test, and will happily run down the reasons why

FIFTY

FTA: "...thus possibly indicating a lack of awareness in regards to driving abilities"

First yesterday, now today... why do we always mistake a "lack of giving a crap" for a "lack of awareness"?
 
2012-05-30 07:02:54 AM  
Safe Driving test, every ten years, no exceptions.
 
2012-05-30 07:03:38 AM  

zepillin: driving by assumption and expectations instead by what is actually happening on the road is no way to go to town, sonny


Odd. That's precisely what makes "superfluous signalling" kinda important. Assuming you're going to drive a certain way based on context or circumstances is going to get me in trouble, sooner or later.

There's an intersection not far from where I live, it's the end of a one-way access road coming from the mouth of a freeway off-ramp, and it's two lanes. As you reach the end of the access road, perhaps 100 feet from the intersection, there's signs very clearly marking the right lane for right turns only, and the left lane for either going straight or left turns.

The sign's in black and white. It's law. So I guess when you turn right out of that right lane it's a given, right?

Not hardly. Thanks mostly to out-of-state drivers that apparently aren't used to the notion of turn-specific lanes, it's pretty common for drivers in the right lane to instead go straight ahead. If you had no idea this was the situation, there's no way you'd be prepared for it, and yeah, this sort of thing causes accidents at that intersection with regularity.


There's another odd intersection I navigate every day, a five-way, that suffers from similar conditions. It's actually the second of a pair of nearby intersections that receives a heavy flow of traffic from a nearby turnpike- most of which tends to turn right at the second intersection- but not always. As a driver coming from that right-hand road, you face the hazard that drivers coming from your left aren't required to stop.

The problem this causes is that they also feel they aren't required to signal either. It's hard to see very far up the road coming from your left, so people can fly at you pretty quick, giving you very little time to react. If they're not signalling to turn to their right, you have no way of knowing if they're going to head straight instead, t-boning you right as you're trying to turn to your left.

Did I mention that waiting till the intersection is clear is pretty much a long wait for a train that never comes?


Yeah, all of these sorts of problems are mostly solved by signalling- even when you think it "serves no purpose".
 
2012-05-30 07:29:11 AM  
eighty-five percent also got it wrong when asked which side the brake is on
 
2012-05-30 08:35:06 AM  
Now that old people are using cell phones more, if we had honest Police and a thorough study I believe sincerely we'd see a dramatic shift in who is causing freeway accidents.
 
2012-05-30 08:50:53 AM  
Some of us old people not only drive, we fly airplanes.
 
2012-05-30 09:40:12 AM  

SkunkWerks: Not hardly. Thanks mostly to out-of-state drivers that apparently aren't used to the notion of turn-specific lanes, it's pretty common for drivers in the right lane to instead go straight ahead.


There's a lot of intersections like that around where I live, and it's definitely not the out-of-towners that are the problem. The main drag through town is three lanes in each direction with additional right turn shoulder lanes that run down the entire way. At every intersection the shoulder lanes are clearly marked right-turn only with posted signs and with painted markings on the road. But that never seems to stop the self-important douches in the right driving lane from cutting over to the turn lane, roaring up 4 or 5 car lengths and then cutting back over into the drive lane. Days like that I wish I could just see the hand of God reach down and swat those assholes off the road.
 
2012-05-30 10:17:17 AM  

wutchamacallem: Some of us old people not only drive crash cars, we fly crash airplanes.

 
2012-05-30 10:46:10 AM  
Since this is 85% of those who self-select to keep driving, I'm not too surprised.
 
2012-05-30 10:57:49 AM  
Two words: macular degeneration

Everyone should be tested for vision loss everytime they have to renew their driving privilege. And yes it is a privilege not a right. I once worked for the Florida DHSMV on the Mature Driver Vision Program and some of the horror stories of drivers and the lenghts they would go to to renew their licenses while being clinically blind would boggle your mind. Thanks for the safety AARP.
 
2012-05-30 11:15:08 AM  

CasperImproved: untaken_name: bubo_sibiricus: Nrokreffefp: cross a double yellow line to turn left, which is illegal

Only sometimes, and that is only if the statute calls out "impeding traffic" at the same time, and that varies from state to state. In NV impeding traffic even slightly while making a left hand turn (just make sure nobody is behind you) will get you a ticket. In all of New England, it won't. Because impeded traffic here is a way of life when all your roads that are not interstates are former cattle paths and Indian trails.

A blanket statement like yours is simply wrong.

All blanket statements are wrong. Every single one of them.

You do realize that you are extremely annoying... right? I would guess that you are someone's red headed stepchild. no one else would have you.

Can you go away now (and hopefully forever)? If not, I'll have to log off for the couple of hours that would be your lifetime. Flies only live for a couple of hours... right?

And just so you know, I have a battery operated fly swatter. And I DO know how to use it.

Now shut up and go away little man (yes, I like some of the old school stuff). But I am certain it is wasted on you. But you going away would be a nice gesture.


You do realize that thread-jumping to attack me instead of defending your own statements makes you look even more intellectually weak and stupid than just not defending the statements you choose to make, right? Of course not. That would take intelligence.
 
2012-05-30 11:28:29 AM  

turbidum: Bunnyhat: I think people should be retested every 4 years when they renew their license.
Too many people take the test at age 16 and forget the rules of the road for the rest of their life.

And police need to pull people a lot less for speeding and more for things like following to closely, not using turn signals, running red lights, texting while driving, etc etc.
I would bet that following cars to closely ends up causing more preventable accidents then speeding alone does.

And the worst part about those tailgaters is that they often blame the car in front of them for stopping too suddenly and causing the accident in question.

/2-second rule, not 2-car-length rule


7 times out of 10, tailgating just means "YOU are not maintaining an appropriate speed".

the other 3 out of 10 are just speeding dicks.
 
2012-05-30 12:11:34 PM  

bingethinker: These must be the people who think they're safe drivers because they're doing 20 m.p.h. less than everybody else, and blocking the left lane.


Oh, my favorite is in a 55mph limit with 2 lanes you have guy in the right going 55 and someone going 56 who decides they need to pass them for the next 5 or so miles.

I seriously am considering having my engineer friend make me a sonic weapon for my car so I can irritate drivers and/or shatter their glass. That would at least make me feel better since I am not allowed to murder them.
 
2012-05-30 12:34:58 PM  

havocmike: turbidum: Bunnyhat: I think people should be retested every 4 years when they renew their license.
Too many people take the test at age 16 and forget the rules of the road for the rest of their life.

And police need to pull people a lot less for speeding and more for things like following to closely, not using turn signals, running red lights, texting while driving, etc etc.
I would bet that following cars to closely ends up causing more preventable accidents then speeding alone does.

And the worst part about those tailgaters is that they often blame the car in front of them for stopping too suddenly and causing the accident in question.

/2-second rule, not 2-car-length rule

7 times out of 10, tailgating just means "YOU are not maintaining an appropriate speed".

the other 3 out of 10 are just speeding dicks.


Actually, 10 times out of 10, tailgating means that the perpetrator is a small-dicked asshole. Also, 10 times out of 10, somebody tailgating me means that I slow down, since I want to minimize potential collision speeds. The best is a guy tailgating me until he can blow by me in the other lane, only to have me pull up beside him at the next light. Invariably it is an asshole in an SUV. I assume that it's because the same small-dicked assholes that tailgate are the same small-dicked assholes that buy SUVs.
 
2012-05-30 12:45:18 PM  

EngineerAU: I've started incorporating a driving test into dating. After going on a couple of dates, I come up with a reason why the woman should drive us. Those who are aggressive or act like jerks on the road tend to act like jerks in the relationship once the "on my best behavior" period expires. It's a nice filter to use before things get too serious.

Some just have poor driving skills which isn't the same as driving like an ass. I don't hold that against them, though I will insist on doing most of the driving.


This is bad for you. Everyone has a bad day driving. What if you get that person on that day.
 
2012-05-30 01:03:50 PM  

pion: havocmike: turbidum: Bunnyhat: I think people should be retested every 4 years when they renew their license.
Too many people take the test at age 16 and forget the rules of the road for the rest of their life.

And police need to pull people a lot less for speeding and more for things like following to closely, not using turn signals, running red lights, texting while driving, etc etc.
I would bet that following cars to closely ends up causing more preventable accidents then speeding alone does.

And the worst part about those tailgaters is that they often blame the car in front of them for stopping too suddenly and causing the accident in question.

/2-second rule, not 2-car-length rule

7 times out of 10, tailgating just means "YOU are not maintaining an appropriate speed".

the other 3 out of 10 are just speeding dicks.

Actually, 10 times out of 10, tailgating means that the perpetrator is a small-dicked asshole. Also, 10 times out of 10, somebody tailgating me means that I slow down, since I want to minimize potential collision speeds. The best is a guy tailgating me until he can blow by me in the other lane, only to have me pull up beside him at the next light. Invariably it is an asshole in an SUV. I assume that it's because the same small-dicked assholes that tailgate are the same small-dicked assholes that buy SUVs.


Get out of the fast lane, asshole.
 
2012-05-30 02:50:23 PM  

pion: havocmike: turbidum: Bunnyhat:
Actually, 10 times out of 10, tailgating means that the perpetrator is a small-dicked asshole. Also, 10 times out of 10, somebody tailgating me means that I slow down, since I want to minimize potential collision speeds. The best is a guy tailgating me until he can blow by me in the other lane, only to have me pull up beside him at the next light. Invariably it is an asshole in an SUV. I assume that it's because the same small-dicked assholes that tailgate are the same small-dicked assholes that buy SUVs.


You know the left lane is not for being a slow asshole, right? If you've got a line of cars on your ass and a mile of open road in front of you it may not be a small-dicked asshole SUV driver that's the problem.

Also, by slowing down you're actually creating / increasing the speed difference which is more likely to result in a collision. That really sounds like you're justifying your driving like an asshole by trying to create safety reasons as to why you're in the right. The best course of action would be to move over to resolve any potential collision situation. But that won't let you show up that small dicked asshole in a SUV who's tailgating you, would it? And the point of your actions are to show them up, not to let it go and get out of a situation where an accident could be caused. That's what you're saying, at least.

Not that I don't do that too, but I don't try to come up with BS reasons to justify it. I really, really try not to be an asshole. But almost everybody does it one time or another. The say "fark that guy, I'll show him". I just try to recognize when I'm getting upset and calm down. But that doesn't always happen. I'd say 99% of the time I get my ass ridden I'll just get over. But I'm no saint behind the wheel.

Also, where can i get this study correlating dick size and tailgating or SUV driving? Because your post sounds like there's an awful lot of smug in it with out much in substance for basis of an argument. As opposed to the post you were replying to, which does have something of substance in its argument.

\Doesn't drive an SUV
\\Really hopes this is a troll and not how the other drivers on the road think. That they're always in the right when they're talking about how they're wrong.
\\\How about you have to get tested within a year of getting a moving violation?
 
2012-05-30 03:27:09 PM  

Molavian: Get out of the fast lane, asshole.


If we're talking about the highway, nobody really tailgates me on the highway.

MadMattressMack: pion: havocmike: turbidum: Bunnyhat:
Actually, 10 times out of 10, tailgating means that the perpetrator is a small-dicked asshole. Also, 10 times out of 10, somebody tailgating me means that I slow down, since I want to minimize potential collision speeds. The best is a guy tailgating me until he can blow by me in the other lane, only to have me pull up beside him at the next light. Invariably it is an asshole in an SUV. I assume that it's because the same small-dicked assholes that tailgate are the same small-dicked assholes that buy SUVs.

You know the left lane is not for being a slow asshole, right? If you've got a line of cars on your ass and a mile of open road in front of you it may not be a small-dicked asshole SUV driver that's the problem.

Also, by slowing down you're actually creating / increasing the speed difference which is more likely to result in a collision. That really sounds like you're justifying your driving like an asshole by trying to create safety reasons as to why you're in the right. The best course of action would be to move over to resolve any potential collision situation. But that won't let you show up that small dicked asshole in a SUV who's tailgating you, would it? And the point of your actions are to show them up, not to let it go and get out of a situation where an accident could be caused. That's what you're saying, at least.

Not that I don't do that too, but I don't try to come up with BS reasons to justify it. I really, really try not to be an asshole. But almost everybody does it one time or another. The say "fark that guy, I'll show him". I just try to recognize when I'm getting upset and calm down. But that doesn't always happen. I'd say 99% of the time I get my ass ridden I'll just get over. But I'm no saint behind the wheel.

Also, where can i get this study correlating dick size and tailgating or SUV driving? Because your post sounds like there's an awful lot of smug in it with out much in substance for basis of an ...


I'm sorry you have to spend 5 paragraphs defending driving dangerously close to another driver. I'm pretty sure that makes the problem YOU, not the driver in front of you, particularly if they drive the speed limit. Must be why you take things so personally.
 
2012-05-30 03:35:01 PM  

pion: Molavian: Get out of the fast lane, asshole.

If we're talking about the highway, nobody really tailgates me on the highway.

MadMattressMack: pion: havocmike: turbidum: Bunnyhat:
Actually, 10 times out of 10, tailgating means that the perpetrator is a small-dicked asshole. Also, 10 times out of 10, somebody tailgating me means that I slow down, since I want to minimize potential collision speeds. The best is a guy tailgating me until he can blow by me in the other lane, only to have me pull up beside him at the next light. Invariably it is an asshole in an SUV. I assume that it's because the same small-dicked assholes that tailgate are the same small-dicked assholes that buy SUVs.

You know the left lane is not for being a slow asshole, right? If you've got a line of cars on your ass and a mile of open road in front of you it may not be a small-dicked asshole SUV driver that's the problem.

Also, by slowing down you're actually creating / increasing the speed difference which is more likely to result in a collision. That really sounds like you're justifying your driving like an asshole by trying to create safety reasons as to why you're in the right. The best course of action would be to move over to resolve any potential collision situation. But that won't let you show up that small dicked asshole in a SUV who's tailgating you, would it? And the point of your actions are to show them up, not to let it go and get out of a situation where an accident could be caused. That's what you're saying, at least.

Not that I don't do that too, but I don't try to come up with BS reasons to justify it. I really, really try not to be an asshole. But almost everybody does it one time or another. The say "fark that guy, I'll show him". I just try to recognize when I'm getting upset and calm down. But that doesn't always happen. I'd say 99% of the time I get my ass ridden I'll just get over. But I'm no saint behind the wheel.

Also, where can i get this study correlating dick s ...


Is it really that hard to just move over and let people by?
 
2012-05-30 03:46:49 PM  

pion: :.


Can you show where I defended driving dangerously close to somebody else? I don't see anywhere that I did nor did I ever intend to do so. Also, i never once said I tailgate. I said I understand that people get upset, but that I try and get over it. And that maybe other people should try that instead of escalating the situation. As opposed to the guy who I responded to who was trying to justify making 2 wrongs into a right for safety reasons.

So you didn't read what I wrote and made up what you wanted me to say instead, then tried to attack me on that? Maybe I'm behind 9/11, the Kennedy deaths, and Lady Gaga as well. Will it make you feel better to say I'm the source of those problem for those as well?
 
2012-05-30 04:39:02 PM  
As tempting as it is to make fun of oblivious old farkers, almost everybody in America drives like a stupid asshole, it just depends on their age group.

Teenagers and younger 20-somethings drive badly because they're stupid and inexperienced.

People 25-60 drive badly because they're just assholes, with a subset of people who are just completely incompetent. They know (mostly) what the rules of the road are, they just don't care.

The old farkers just refuse to acknowledge that they can't see and their reflexes are compromised by decrepitude.
 
2012-05-30 04:51:34 PM  

wutchamacallem: Some of us old people not only drive, we fly airplanes.


I wish more of you 'old people' did. My dad is pushing 60 and is working on his CFI right now. All the training and skill that it takes to be a pilot tends to translate into making you an excellent and situationally aware driver. I don't mind old pilots behind the wheel.
 
2012-05-30 05:17:43 PM  

havocmike: turbidum: Bunnyhat: I think people should be retested every 4 years when they renew their license.
Too many people take the test at age 16 and forget the rules of the road for the rest of their life.

And police need to pull people a lot less for speeding and more for things like following to closely, not using turn signals, running red lights, texting while driving, etc etc.
I would bet that following cars to closely ends up causing more preventable accidents then speeding alone does.

And the worst part about those tailgaters is that they often blame the car in front of them for stopping too suddenly and causing the accident in question.

/2-second rule, not 2-car-length rule

7 times out of 10, tailgating just means "YOU are not maintaining an appropriate speed".

the other 3 out of 10 are just speeding dicks.


I'm pretty much always at or above the speed limit on the freeways around here. They're pretty much all just speeding dicks.

/worst was when a guy, right after rush hour, was gesturing for me to move to the right (I was in the far left lane). I refused because I was already going 70-75 and because there were a bunch of cars in front of me, so he wasn't going to be making much headway anyways. He proceeded to shift lanes left and drove on the shoulder. Passed him a couple minutes later, where he had been stopped by a cop.
 
2012-05-30 06:17:17 PM  
Engage CSB...

A friend of mine had his unoccupied, parked car hit by a girl who left a note which read, "Sorry I hit your car. If you park better it wouldn't have happen. You must be Asian. I'm only writing this cause someone saw me do it. - good driver (not Asian)".

End CSB.

I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics you'd have to go through to convince yourself you're a good driver right after you hit a PARKED CAR.
 
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