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2012-05-30 11:49:56 AM

Solon Isonomia: mjohnson71: zekeburger: I didn't think Pete Campbell could be more of a sleazeball and then I watched this episode.

I hope Trudy finds out he cheated on her with Rory Gilmore and takes his head off with the gun he has in his office.

BTW: did Rory get some after-market work done? She looks "chestier" than I remember.

I'm guessing some double stick tape and some of those cutlet-like thingies.


I doubt that would work during Pete's daydream when she came into the office with the strategicly opened fur coat.

/Inside boob.
 
2012-05-30 12:02:04 PM

wedding vegetables: I guess I didn't realize that Joan was struggling so much. She mentioned that $50k would be four times what she makes in a year, which would put her around $12,500. In today's dollars, that'd be over $80k a year.

I know the cost of living in Manhattan is high, but even with a baby, I'd think she'd be making enough to be doing okay. Not only that, but with her divorce impending, she'd likely get child support, since Greg hasn't figured out it's not his kid and they couldn't do paternity testing back then.

It just makes me sad, I guess. I wanted to see her become more of a player, but not like that. Still, it was pretty slick of Lane to suggest the partnership rather than the cash. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.


There was no child support in the 1960s.
 
2012-05-30 12:24:34 PM
Loved the episode, but making Joan a partner? Really? Who's next, Dawn the secretary? Come on.
 
2012-05-30 12:28:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Loved the episode, but making Joan a partner? Really? Who's next, Dawn the secretary? Come on.


They're building for an implosion.

...again.

/when it's good, it's great
//when it's bad, it's merely "meh"
 
2012-05-30 12:43:55 PM

Uncle Pooky: HoboCop: Show needs more Roger Sterling

"Am I the only one who wants to see this?"

/Woefully underused this year.


I disagree. I think that Roger has found his role on the show as comic relief. He isn't in a lot of scenes, but when he is, he takes them over. He has at least one line in every episode that makes me LOL.

"Happy Pearl Harbor day!"
(Don walks out of the bathroom)
"I see you just finished your bombing"
 
2012-05-30 12:53:36 PM

zabadu: wedding vegetables: I guess I didn't realize that Joan was struggling so much. She mentioned that $50k would be four times what she makes in a year, which would put her around $12,500. In today's dollars, that'd be over $80k a year.

I know the cost of living in Manhattan is high, but even with a baby, I'd think she'd be making enough to be doing okay. Not only that, but with her divorce impending, she'd likely get child support, since Greg hasn't figured out it's not his kid and they couldn't do paternity testing back then.

It just makes me sad, I guess. I wanted to see her become more of a player, but not like that. Still, it was pretty slick of Lane to suggest the partnership rather than the cash. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

There was no child support in the 1960s.


Yeah, I'm standing all kinds of corrected in this thread. :)

I'm still astonished, though. How does anyone live in NYC for an extended period of time if they don't make mid-6 figures?
 
2012-05-30 01:43:23 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Loved the episode, but making Joan a partner? Really? Who's next, Dawn the secretary? Come on.


Third Season Flinale, "Shut the Door, Have a Seat". They didn't start to breathe easy until Joan arrived.
 
2012-05-30 01:44:21 PM

tommylikewingy: Uncle Pooky: HoboCop: Show needs more Roger Sterling

"Am I the only one who wants to see this?"

/Woefully underused this year.

I disagree. I think that Roger has found his role on the show as comic relief. He isn't in a lot of scenes, but when he is, he takes them over. He has at least one line in every episode that makes me LOL.

"Happy Pearl Harbor day!"
(Don walks out of the bathroom)
"I see you just finished your bombing"


The earlier episode this year at this awards ceremony was great. Roger playing against Sally was perfect. That needs to happen at least once or twice a season.
 
2012-05-30 01:44:36 PM
Pete was never a likable character but jeez, he's really becoming a scumbag this season.
I just wonder what's going to happen to Peggy. Is she off the show? She was always one of the lead characters. It seems odd that she'd be out of the show.

I'm glad that we've been seeing less and less of Betty Draper. Even this "fat Betty" storyline is thoroughly uninteresting and makes the character less sympathetic.

I've really been enjoying this past season. Makes up for having to wait so long for it.
 
2012-05-30 02:18:58 PM
Jaguar needs to put on some big boy pants. They should be flattered to be featured in MM.

I really liked how they did the loop back to show us that Don had not made it in time to stop Joan. Seems like she did it to "take one" for the team thinking that they all wanted/needed her too. Interesting to me that she wore the Fur Wrap that Roger gave to her in Season 1.

I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Peggy is probably in for a rude awakening, that guy she meet with seemed more skeevy than Pete. (and that's saying alot)
 
2012-05-30 02:20:52 PM

tommylikewingy: Uncle Pooky: HoboCop: Show needs more Roger Sterling

"Am I the only one who wants to see this?"

/Woefully underused this year.

I disagree. I think that Roger has found his role on the show as comic relief. He isn't in a lot of scenes, but when he is, he takes them over. He has at least one line in every episode that makes me LOL.

"Happy Pearl Harbor day!"
(Don walks out of the bathroom)
"I see you just finished your bombing"


Yeah, that's top notch writing and characterization. Good example.
 
2012-05-30 02:25:10 PM

rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.


Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.

Peggy is probably in for a rude awakening, that guy she meet with seemed more skeevy than Pete. (and that's saying alot)

Freddy Rumsen? Naw, he's an OK guy. After all, he was up front that if she quit, he was going to ask for her job. Plus he gave her some good advice about knowing when it was time to go. Plus he's one of the few characters who isn't a skirt-chaser.
 
2012-05-30 02:33:05 PM

shivashakti: Pete was never a likable character but jeez, he's really becoming a scumbag this season.
I just wonder what's going to happen to Peggy. Is she off the show? She was always one of the lead characters. It seems odd that she'd be out of the show.

I'm glad that we've been seeing less and less of Betty Draper. Even this "fat Betty" storyline is thoroughly uninteresting and makes the character less sympathetic.


I loved seeing Betty Draper until this season. I hated it when when spoke, but I loved seeing her.
 
2012-05-30 02:34:17 PM

OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.

Peggy is probably in for a rude awakening, that guy she meet with seemed more skeevy than Pete. (and that's saying alot)

Freddy Rumsen? Naw, he's an OK guy. After all, he was up front that if she quit, he was going to ask for her job. Plus he gave her some good advice about knowing when it was time to go. Plus he's one of the few characters who isn't a skirt-chaser.


No, the guy that hired her, who thinks he's Don Draper, but acts like Pete.
 
2012-05-30 02:40:08 PM

SharkTrager: OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
Peggy is probably in for a rude awakening, that guy she meet with seemed more skeevy than Pete. (and that's saying alot)

Freddy Rumsen? Naw, he's an OK guy. After all, he was up front that if she quit, he was going to ask for her job. Plus he gave her some good advice about knowing when it was time to go. Plus he's one of the few characters who isn't a skirt-chaser.

No, the guy that hired her, who thinks he's Don Draper, but acts like Pete.


Ted Chaough. He's been on the show before, and he's pretty slimy.

I'm fascinated with how far Freddy's character has come. His conversation with Peggy this week was so sweet. He's always been a fan of hers, but it's amazing how much she's changed his perception of women. In the first season, he'd be thinking something like, "That Peggy's pretty good at this...for a girl." Now it's just, "Peggy is good at this."

He'd always have little nicknames for her, but again, in the first season it was a not-so-subtle way for a man to keep a secretary in her place, but when he called her "Ballerina" this time, you could tell it was affectionate in a different way--it was based on their history together.
 
2012-05-30 02:40:32 PM

OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.


So do we think the open elevator shaft Don saw is a Chekhov's Gun? Or just there for symbolism. It seems a bit harsh to toss a character down the elevator shaft, but then I remember the John Deere account. And there's also Pete's rifle that we were reminded he had earlier this season.

Pete Campbell reminds me of Joffrey from Game of Thrones. They're both perfectly casted so that the viewer wants to punch them in the face before they even start talking.
 
2012-05-30 02:41:18 PM

SharkTrager: OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.

Peggy is probably in for a rude awakening, that guy she meet with seemed more skeevy than Pete. (and that's saying alot)

Freddy Rumsen? Naw, he's an OK guy. After all, he was up front that if she quit, he was going to ask for her job. Plus he gave her some good advice about knowing when it was time to go. Plus he's one of the few characters who isn't a skirt-chaser.

No, the guy that hired her, who thinks he's Don Draper, but acts like Pete.


Oh, him? Yeah, that guy had "dick" written all over him.

Wonder if she's gone from the show of if there's going to be a new story line with the other agency? I thought Freddy was gone for good, but apparently he's back.
 
2012-05-30 02:46:15 PM

NeoCortex42: OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.

So do we think the open elevator shaft Don saw is a Chekhov's Gun? Or just there for symbolism. It seems a bit harsh to toss a character down the elevator shaft, but then I remember the John Deere account. And there's also Pete's rifle that we were reminded he had earlier this season.

Pete Campbell reminds me of Joffrey from Game of Thrones. They're both perfectly casted so that the viewer wants to punch them in the face before they even start talking.


I would rather strangle Joffrey.

oops, did I say too much?
 
2012-05-30 02:53:32 PM

NeoCortex42: OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.

So do we think the open elevator shaft Don saw is a Chekhov's Gun? Or just there for symbolism. It seems a bit harsh to toss a character down the elevator shaft, but then I remember the John Deere account. And there's also Pete's rifle that we were reminded he had earlier this season.


I think the seeds of Pete's destruction are of his own making, his constant pursuit of women. And Rory seems perfectly suited to lead him on with her "go away - come take me" routine.

Pete is starting to remind me of the Fred McMurray character in "Double Indemnity," the guy who thinks he's this big lady-killer but who's actually too unwise to know when he's being taken over the hurdles.

Forty-Two: SharkTrager: OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
Peggy is probably in for a rude awakening, that guy she meet with seemed more skeevy than Pete. (and that's saying alot)

Freddy Rumsen? Naw, he's an OK guy. After all, he was up front that if she quit, he was going to ask for her job. Plus he gave her some good advice about knowing when it was time to go. Plus he's one of the few characters who isn't a skirt-chaser.

No, the guy that hired her, who thinks he's Don Draper, but acts like Pete.

Ted Chaough. He's been on the show before, and he's pretty slimy.

I'm fascinated with how far Freddy's character has come. His conversation with Peggy this week was so sweet. He's always been a fan of hers, but it's amazing how much she's changed his perception of women. In the first season, he'd be thinking something like, "That Peggy's pretty good at this...for a girl." Now it's just, "Peggy is good at this."

He'd always have little nicknames for her, but again, in the first season it was a not-so-subtle way for a man to keep a secretary in her place, but when he called her "Ballerina" this time, you could tell it was affectionate in a different way--it was based on their history together.



Yeah, that seems to be a theme this season - men learning how to accept women as friends and co-workers. Don is forming a really good relationship with Joan, Roger is being nice to his ex, and Freddy was obviously assuming the role of the older friend with Peggy.

Don's obviously heartbroken face when he realized that Joan had slept with that fat slug was priceless, it was there just for a second. It was the face of someone who was sad that a friend had made a big mistake.
 
2012-05-30 03:01:29 PM
www.rowenashores.com

I always wanted the XKE.
 
2012-05-30 03:06:56 PM
If you guys don't read it already, I highly recommend Brian Moylan's recaps of the episodes. He usually picks up things I don't see, or dismiss out of hand as not substantial.

Excerpt: "Joan's gonna do it. I told you! And she asks for a partnership because Joan isn't dumb. I love that she's all, "Do I have to do all of it myself!" For the first time Joan isn't tending to all the details and that is because she is really going to bring this whole thing home. "Which one is he?" she asks on the way out, as if it matters. There are finger smudges on the door. Nothing is clean in this office. No one is without blame."


Link
 
2012-05-30 03:12:20 PM
My wife has a dream car of an xke convertable. There was a local gathering I drove past of xke owners where I dropped-by to see if anyone would let her drive one around the track. It cost me a local hooker for an out of state owner. However, the wife got it out of her system. I had helped rebuild one and knew how awful they were to keep running.
 
2012-05-30 03:22:16 PM

SharkTrager: I loved seeing Betty Draper until this season. I hated it when when spoke, but I loved seeing her.


I can at least understand why she hated Don. Don slept around constantly...which made her somewhat sympathetic. But there's no longer anything likable about her as a person.

She's not a sympathetic character. She's not a particularly good mother or a person. And now she's obsessed over the fact that she's not rail-thin anymore. She keeps calling herself fat, when she's not. Maybe her massive insecurities stem from when Don was cheating on her constantly, but she can't let go of it. Instead, trying to sabotage Don's current marriage despite the fact that she has her own new husband now.

She's annoying and petty, regardless of what she looks like.
 
2012-05-30 03:56:35 PM

shivashakti: SharkTrager: I loved seeing Betty Draper until this season. I hated it when when spoke, but I loved seeing her.

I can at least understand why she hated Don. Don slept around constantly...which made her somewhat sympathetic. But there's no longer anything likable about her as a person.

She's not a sympathetic character. She's not a particularly good mother or a person. And now she's obsessed over the fact that she's not rail-thin anymore. She keeps calling herself fat, when she's not. Maybe her massive insecurities stem from when Don was cheating on her constantly, but she can't let go of it. Instead, trying to sabotage Don's current marriage despite the fact that she has her own new husband now.

She's annoying and petty, regardless of what she looks like.


Betty is a child in an adult body. The only believable relationship she had was with Glen Bishop who outgrew her. I loved that they had her seeing a child psychologist.
 
2012-05-30 04:05:23 PM

Carth: Betty is a child in an adult body. The only believable relationship she had was with Glen Bishop who outgrew her. I loved that they had her seeing a child psychologist.


I know these are fictional characters, but whenever they show Betty and the kids, I keep wondering how those kids are going to grow up.
 
2012-05-30 04:32:47 PM

shivashakti: Carth: Betty is a child in an adult body. The only believable relationship she had was with Glen Bishop who outgrew her. I loved that they had her seeing a child psychologist.

I know these are fictional characters, but whenever they show Betty and the kids, I keep wondering how those kids are going to grow up.


Well, in the case of Bobby, they just trade him in for a new model every year or two.
 
2012-05-30 04:42:59 PM
Mad Men is about the hidden side of the fifties and sixties and the decline of the generation between the "Greatest" and the Boomers.

It feels like the Wire to me in the sense that the way the upper middle class white folk of Manhattan struggle in their respective turfs as the corner boys did in Bodymore Murderland. Maybe not a great metaphor, but Mad Men is quickly rising to Wire heights in my book
 
2012-05-30 05:09:10 PM

The Homer Tax: Uncle Pooky: "Am I the only one who wants to see this?"

"Is it just me, or is the lobby full of..."


"Right when he got it in the door."
 
2012-05-30 06:34:33 PM

NeoCortex42: OldManDownDRoad: rogiesangel:
I also really hope that Pete falls out the window or down the elevator shaft.

Every time I see Pete's smug face, I want to give it a hard slap.

But take heart - I think Rory Gilmore is going to take him over the falls. She's certainly playing some heavy games with him.

So do we think the open elevator shaft Don saw is a Chekhov's Gun? Or just there for symbolism. It seems a bit harsh to toss a character down the elevator shaft, but then I remember the John Deere account. And there's also Pete's rifle that we were reminded he had earlier this season.

Pete Campbell reminds me of Joffrey from Game of Thrones. They're both perfectly casted so that the viewer wants to punch them in the face before they even start talking.


I think the Chekhov's Gun was earlier in the season when Megan and Peggy were going through Don's Rolodex and realized that he still had four numbers for Duck Phillips. I think he'll be working with Peggy again.
 
2012-05-30 07:08:53 PM

shivashakti: Carth: Betty is a child in an adult body. The only believable relationship she had was with Glen Bishop who outgrew her. I loved that they had her seeing a child psychologist.

I know these are fictional characters, but whenever they show Betty and the kids, I keep wondering how those kids are going to grow up.


Looks like having Don and Megan around helps a lot. Megan appears to be comfortably taking on the mother role and with more panache than Betty. The episode where Betty tries to sabotage Don and Megan by mentioning Anna to Sally, then backfiring on her because Sally figured out what Betty intended made me applaud to the screen.

/also likes Sally in The Legend of Korra
//"Promise me you wont be so difficult in your teens." "I'll make no such promises."
 
2012-05-30 08:30:49 PM

The Homer Tax: Mentat: Watching Pete get his ass kicked was a great moment in television.

GRIMY LITTLE PIMP!

This season has been astounding. The Roger Sterling Acid Trip episode was one of the greatest things I have ever seen. Even the less-good episodes this season have been better than anything else on television. Like I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the notion that this show is tantamount to a soap opera is just inconceivable to me - I don't know if it could be any more the opposite of exactly that.


I love this season. I hear people complaining that it's becoming too dark and cynical. Well, it's 1967. They're all one year from seeing the world fall apart around them. I think this season is doing a great job of capturing that zeitgeist.
 
2012-05-30 08:46:17 PM

CigaretteSmokingMan: [www.rowenashores.com image 562x318]

I always wanted the XKE.


My father has a V12 coupe, it's liquid sex.
 
2012-05-30 10:58:44 PM

The Homer Tax: But, you're missing out on probably the greatest television show...ever?


Maybe the greatest ass ever. The show shed the only interesting part of it and is now about a bunch of douchey advertising executives.
 
2012-05-30 11:48:02 PM

moothemagiccow: Maybe the greatest ass ever. The show shed the only interesting part of it and is now about a bunch of douchey advertising executives.


Nope, Roger Sterling is still there. Happy Pearl Harbor Day!
 
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