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(Talking Points Memo)   Top conservatives want to repeal all of Obamacare, even the parts that regular GOPers and Teabaggers support. You see, Obamacare is kind of like the One Ring, and if you use it for good it will twist your actions to Obama's purpose   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 154
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2012-05-29 09:46:07 AM
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OBAMA BAD!
 
2012-05-29 09:48:55 AM
Also, if you put it on, Obama's Ringwraiths will find you and death panel your ass.

This was all written in the legislation. Seriously, go look, it's in there.
 
2012-05-29 09:52:36 AM
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They do look somewhat similar.
 
2012-05-29 09:53:55 AM
 
2012-05-29 09:58:26 AM
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/obligatory
 
2012-05-29 10:02:27 AM
So they're ditching "Repeal and Replace" in favor of the usual GOP mantra of "F*ck the Poor"?

If those leeches wanted proper medical care, they should have been born wealthy.
 
2012-05-29 10:11:25 AM
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All fellow members of the GOP Caucus hear me. Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing and have healthcare for the poor? How does the Caucus vote?
Entire GOP: fark THE POOR!
 
2012-05-29 10:11:37 AM
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TOP CONS TOP CONS TOP CONS TOP CONS
 
2012-05-29 10:11:49 AM
www.councilofelrond.com

"You have been summoned here to answer the threat of ObamaCare. America stands on the brink of a socialist era that none can escape. You will unite or you will fall. Each American is bound to this fate, this one doom".

www.theargonath.cc

"Bah! Let's just repeal it and be done with it!"

www.theargonath.cc

"One does not simply repeal ObamaCare. The black gates of Capitol Hill are guarded by more than just Orcs. There are Democrats there who do not sleep. And the Great Kenyan Usurper is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland riddled with free abortions and adequate social services. Not with 10,000 Freepers could you do this. It is folly".

www.fanzone50.com

"ObamaCare cannot be destroyed by any craft we here possess. ObamaCare was made in the depths of Lenin's Tomb. Only there can it be unmade. One of you must do this".
 
2012-05-29 10:12:41 AM
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Help!

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I'm sorry that is a pre-existing condition.
 
2012-05-29 10:13:50 AM
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2012-05-29 10:14:53 AM
Dean Clancy - "It's not the Republicans' fault if 25-year-old slackers suddenly are dropped from mom and dad's health insurance policy."

Still working on getting that youth vote, eh?
 
2012-05-29 10:16:27 AM
Conservative advocates are displeased that Republicans are privately weighing a replacement plan that involves reinstating popular elements of the health care law - including its coverage guarantee regardless of pre-existing conditions, the ability to remain on a parent's plan until age 26 and provisions that close the Medicare "doughnut hole."

The individual mandate is what pays for coverage of pre-existing conditions, you farking idiots.
 
2012-05-29 10:17:33 AM

vernonFL: [t2.gstatic.com image 347x145]

Help!

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I'm sorry that is a pre-existing condition.


Oh come on! How could being stabbed with a Morgul blade by a Naz'Ghul be considered a pre-existing condition?!
 
2012-05-29 10:19:08 AM
This must be what happens when Snidely Whiplash is elected to Congress.
 
2012-05-29 10:20:07 AM

CPT Ethanolic: Health Care and Constitutional Chaos


Outstanding link
 
2012-05-29 10:23:41 AM
The Republicans will put forth a version of "Obamacare" that is virtually identical to what was passed in 2009, they just won't call it "Obamacare" Viola!

Problem solved.
 
2012-05-29 10:25:14 AM
"[FreedomWorks's leader Dean Clancy said] 'It's not the Republicans' fault if 25-year-old slackers suddenly are dropped from mom and dad's health insurance policy.'"

As a 24-year-old who had to struggle hard to afford health insurance because I got dropped off my parent's plan before the ACA went into effect, I want to tell Mr. Clancy to go take a long walk off a short pier. He has no damn clue how expensive health insurance is to people my age, and how hard it is even for people who do get jobs right out of college to afford it. The extension to 26 is one of the most important parts of the health care bill because it allows young people to get a head start in life without having to worry about the massive costs of health problems.
 
2012-05-29 10:27:59 AM
I am frightened of the government!
 
2012-05-29 10:30:52 AM

Cythraul: vernonFL: [t2.gstatic.com image 347x145]

Help!

[t0.gstatic.com image 232x217]

I'm sorry that is a pre-existing condition.

Oh come on! How could being stabbed with a Morgul blade by a Naz'Ghul be considered a pre-existing condition?!


Sir if you look in the fine print of your policy you can clearly see that on page 15 section 127, subsection C) it states that pre-existing conditions including but not limited to cardiac disease, lyphomas, nicotine related illness and wounds inflicted by scimitar wielding Goblins are not covered!
 
2012-05-29 10:34:40 AM

NuttierThanEver: Cythraul: vernonFL: [t2.gstatic.com image 347x145]

Help!

[t0.gstatic.com image 232x217]

I'm sorry that is a pre-existing condition.

Oh come on! How could being stabbed with a Morgul blade by a Naz'Ghul be considered a pre-existing condition?!

Sir if you look in the fine print of your policy you can clearly see that on page 15 section 127, subsection C) it states that pre-existing conditions including but not limited to cardiac disease, lyphomas, nicotine related illness and wounds inflicted by scimitar wielding Goblins are not covered!


What about feelings of repression caused by delusional monarchs claiming to have their authority endowed upon them by a watery tart who lobbed a scimitar at them? Is that covered?
 
2012-05-29 10:35:29 AM

vernonFL: The Republicans will put forth a version of "Obamacare" that is virtually identical to what was passed in 2009, they just won't call it "Obamacare" Viola!

Problem solved.


www.dsokids.com

Don't look at me, I ain't solving shiat.

Rincewind53: "[FreedomWorks's leader Dean Clancy said] 'It's not the Republicans' fault if 25-year-old slackers suddenly are dropped from mom and dad's health insurance policy.'"


Actually, by common sense cause-and-effect, yes. Yes, it is. If I were to say to Clancy that "It's not the Democrats' fault if 50-year-old nonprofit executives have to pay for health insurance rather than freeride at the hospital", he'd call me an idiot and a liar. So I will do the same.
 
2012-05-29 11:01:31 AM
It's no wonder Sen. Snowe is calling it quits and telling the GOP to EABOD.

Also, I can see already that this thread will be full of win.
 
2012-05-29 11:05:29 AM
The GOP acting like a bunch of dicks to the detriment of our country. Huh. Now there's something that you don't see every day.

Oh wait. You see that every goddamn day.
 
2012-05-29 11:08:56 AM
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2012-05-29 11:11:23 AM
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2012-05-29 11:19:34 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why it's so horrible to make sure your fellow Americans have health insurance.

I don't claim to be better than anyone else, but I begin to wonder if all the Christians in the GOP have ever picked up a Bible:

Proverbs 31:8-9 "Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy."

Matthew 25:42-46 "For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

"He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
 
2012-05-29 11:24:24 AM

PacManDreaming: I begin to wonder if all the Christians in the GOP have ever picked up a Bible


People have beat on that dead horse for some time. Hippie, Commie, likes to party Jesus is sometimes quite contradictory to GOP Jesus.
 
2012-05-29 11:29:18 AM

PacManDreaming: I'm still trying to figure out why it's so horrible to make sure your fellow Americans have health insurance.

I don't claim to be better than anyone else, but I begin to wonder if all the Christians in the GOP have ever picked up a Bible:

Proverbs 31:8-9 "Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy."

Matthew 25:42-46 "For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

"He will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."


Have you heard of the ever increasingly popular 'Prosperity Doctrine?' It seems there are so many flavors of Christianity, who knows what the hell Jesus would be cool with these days.
 
2012-05-29 11:52:27 AM

PacManDreaming: I don't claim to be better than anyone else, but I begin to wonder if all the Christians in the GOP have ever picked up a Bible:


Only when Leviticus comes into play. Except for the cotton/poly thing. And football. And sport hunting. And eating shellfish. And...

Cythraul: It seems there are so many flavors of Christianity


If Christianity came in mocha flavor (or, hell, even Ben & Jerry's "Cherry Garcia"), I'd jump back into church for it.

...

I f*cking crave ice cream now. Dammit.
 
2012-05-29 12:14:15 PM
I've said before. Given the chance, Republicans will repeal 'Obamacare.' Then they'll replace it with a nearly identical bill that they'll call something like the "Liberty Freedom Anti-Terrorist Free Market Health Care Act" which keeps practically every facet of 'Obamacare' intact. Then they'll take credit for 'fixing' health care.
 
2012-05-29 12:21:25 PM
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2012-05-29 12:37:40 PM

Cythraul: Have you heard of the ever increasingly popular 'Prosperity Doctrine?' It seems there are so many flavors of Christianity, who knows what the hell Jesus would be cool with these days.


From where I'm standing, if I were to be a Christian again, I'm pretty sure I'd start with what Jesus is actually quoted as saying, and not what the dude on TV is telling me.

/prosperity doctrine is some divisive, horrible shiat
 
2012-05-29 12:39:13 PM
Conservative advocates are displeased that Republicans are privately weighing a replacement plan that involves reinstating popular elements of the health care law - including its coverage guarantee regardless of pre-existing conditions, the ability to remain on a parent's plan until age 26 and provisions that close the Medicare "doughnut hole."

Well, that certainly would fark over health insurance companies--so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if some of them got out of the business. The entire concept of insurance is based on the principle of spreading risks, so the requirement to insure everyone regardless of health history only works if everyone--sick and healthy people alike--buys insurance, because the only way the insurer can feasibly be expected to insure sick people who uses lots of health care is to spread the risk by insuring healthier people who use very little health care.

If they are required to insure people with pre-existing conditions, but with no mandate for healthy people to buy insurance, I'd hate to see what kind of exhorbitant premiums they would have to charge for such coverage.
 
2012-05-29 12:41:40 PM
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2012-05-29 12:42:20 PM

Cyberluddite: Conservative advocates are displeased that Republicans are privately weighing a replacement plan that involves reinstating popular elements of the health care law - including its coverage guarantee regardless of pre-existing conditions, the ability to remain on a parent's plan until age 26 and provisions that close the Medicare "doughnut hole."

Well, that certainly would fark over health insurance companies--so much so that I wouldn't be surprised if some of them got out of the business. The entire concept of insurance is based on the principle of spreading risks, so the requirement to insure everyone regardless of health history only works if everyone--sick and healthy people alike--buys insurance, because the only way the insurer can feasibly be expected to insure sick people who uses lots of health care is to spread the risk by insuring healthier people who use very little health care.

If they are required to insure people with pre-existing conditions, but with no mandate for healthy people to buy insurance, I'd hate to see what kind of exhorbitant premiums they would have to charge for such coverage.


I'm okay with this. The more private insurers get out of the field, the better the case is for a Universal Healthcare system.

/or just lowering the medicare minimum age to 0
 
2012-05-29 12:44:17 PM
So is this just going to ping pong back and forth depending which party gets power? Is that how it's going to work?
 
2012-05-29 12:47:50 PM
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2012-05-29 12:48:33 PM

propasaurus: I've said before. Given the chance, Republicans will repeal 'Obamacare.' Then they'll replace it with a nearly identical bill that they'll call something like the "Liberty Freedom Anti-Terrorist Free Market Health Care Act" which keeps practically every facet of 'Obamacare' intact. Then they'll take credit for 'fixing' health care.


While your basic point seems correct, I doubt that's what they'll call it. It doesn't result some kind of snappy acronym, and you know they're all about the acronyms these days. It doesn't matter how clumsy or awkard the title is as long as they can come up some acronym they like, such as how they passed a mouthful like the "Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act," just so it would be more commonly known as the "USA Patriot Act."
 
2012-05-29 12:50:31 PM

CPT Ethanolic: Health Care and Constitutional Chaos


Why should we listen to those intellectual elitists?

/Not serious
 
2012-05-29 12:51:38 PM
The only thing I can remember about the last healthcare "debate" was this:

Republicans were against government health care.
Republicans were PISSED OFF that Obama wanted to cut Medicare spending.

And then shortly after that Republicans were PISSED OFF that Medicare spending wasn't being cut.
 
2012-05-29 01:06:49 PM
If there's one thing Jesus wasn't about, it was healing the sick.
 
2012-05-29 01:15:20 PM

Mugato: So is this just going to ping pong back and forth depending which party gets power? Is that how it's going to work?


I don't think so. If Obama wins in November, which I'm thinking he will, they won't be able to continue this one argument for 4 more years. It'll get especially hard to sell the wharrgarbl as the components of this legislation become active over the next couple years, and people discover that it isn't all that bad.
 
2012-05-29 01:39:18 PM
This thread has potential...
 
2012-05-29 01:40:04 PM
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Going great, guys. See you in November.
 
2012-05-29 01:40:45 PM

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2012-05-29 01:41:48 PM
There's a very good reason health insurance companies refuse to offer individual insurance plans to people with pre-existing conditions: there is literally no way to make these plans actuarially sound. They know too much about how expensive their health care is.
 
2012-05-29 01:43:19 PM

PacManDreaming: I don't claim to be better than anyone else, but I begin to wonder if all the Christians in the GOP have ever picked up a Bible:


Picked it up? Sure, to wave it around. But actually read the book? Not a chance.
 
2012-05-29 01:43:52 PM
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awkwarddddd...
 
2012-05-29 01:44:46 PM

Serious Black: There's a very good reason health insurance companies refuse to offer individual insurance plans to people with pre-existing conditions: there is literally no way to make these plans actuarially sound. They know too much about how expensive their health care is.


Sure there is - they can stop acting as if each "plan" is an entity independent of all their other insurance customers, and instead lump everyone who works for them into a single risk pool, thereby acting like an actual insurance company
 
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