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(BBC)   Two weeks ago, a community rallied round couple who lost 6 of their 14 children in a house fire. Today the police arrested the couple on suspicion of murder   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 148
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2012-05-29 11:31:27 AM
First thought:
14 kids? too many, they sound VERY trashy
-clicks link-
second thought:
They look very white trashy
third thought:
council house sounds like something the govt gives poor people for free
fourth thought:
the govt should've fixed these people

-I'm not even going to bother really reading the whole story..
 
2012-05-29 11:32:33 AM
An ounce of prevention...
 
2012-05-29 12:37:20 PM
Dude looks a bit like George Carlin...
 
2012-05-29 01:01:11 PM
Sad, indeed. Those poor children.
 
2012-05-29 01:02:13 PM
We're all probably better off that those ASBO magnets perished before they had time to continue this family line.
 
2012-05-29 01:04:56 PM
One would think the impeding chav shortage would increase their value.
 
2012-05-29 01:05:03 PM

Dr.Knockboots: council house sounds like something the govt gives poor people for free


A council house isn't free, it's generally fairly basic accommodation given to prevent people from becoming homeless (especially children) and generally charged out at an affordable rent, although the rent may be covered by certain government benefits.

Sadly the first thing I thought when I initially saw the story a couple of weeks ago was that they may have burned the place down themselves to get moved into bigger accommodation, given that this nugget was included:

The family attracted attention in 2006 when Mr Philpott asked the council for a larger house to accommodate his wife, girlfriend and 14 children.

Incredibly sad - my gut reaction is that they never wanted to harm the children and in desperation tried to engineer a move to a bigger house and it all went horribly wrong. In which case that means that 6 children have lost their lives and another 8 are going to spend a LONG time without their parents and (most likely) separated from each other.

Dreadful, dreadful story...

Still, innocent until proven guilty, eh?
 
2012-05-29 01:05:18 PM
14 kids at age 31?

Stop breeding, people.
 
2012-05-29 01:05:58 PM
The family attracted attention in 2006 when Mr Philpott asked the council for a larger house to accommodate his wife, girlfriend and 14 children.

Wait. Wife and girlfriend under one roof?

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-05-29 01:06:17 PM
I'm having difficulty understanding how could things get so desperate that someone could think "Our excess kids are a such burdeon honey, let's burn them alive", and then do so.
 
2012-05-29 01:06:22 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: We're all probably better off that those ASBO magnets perished before they had time to continue this family line.


Valiente: One would think the impeding chav shortage would increase their value.


Jesus Christ, I know this is Fark but these are innocent dead children we're talking about.........

/welcometofark.jpg
 
2012-05-29 01:08:10 PM
Huh. I've always thought those "we have 40 kids and have never worked a day in our lives so the government needs to give us a bigger free house because we deserve it for having children that we can't support" articles from the Daily Fail were sensationalized BS, but it turns out that at least one of them was true.
 
2012-05-29 01:11:28 PM
Doesn't really sound like the police think the parents actually had anything to do with the fire though. Sounds like they found accelerant at the point where the fire started and are simply doing police work, probably asking questions like, "Did you store petrol in this location?"

I'm going to go ahead and guess it's a "The government is not gonna use MY tax money to support these people any more" type person.
 
2012-05-29 01:12:01 PM
I grew up in a large family, twenty-eight siblings with thirty years between the youngest and oldest. Roughly half of us survived to adulthood. It wasn't uncommon that one of us, especially the younger ones, would go missing and no one would notice for weeks, possibly months. With that many people around, it was never a troubling loss, much less devastating. Although I can see how losing six at once might be sad for the parents, they still have over a 50% survival rate. That's pretty good considering they live in Derby, which is the abduction and child murder capital of England.
 
2012-05-29 01:13:22 PM
I see that they already have been found guilty, because when the police release a statement here that they arrested someone for serious crimes it is along the lines that he/she/they is/are to be seen innocent until proven guilty in court.
 
2012-05-29 01:13:49 PM
I was going to comment on the g/f and wife living in the house with the guy, but I see this has already been covered. \

/One man, a wife, and a girlfriend smells of the same covert polygamy that exists in the western US
//Excess children and government assistance seem to be a common factor supporting this theory
///discuss
 
2012-05-29 01:15:43 PM
Approves
i2.listal.com
 
2012-05-29 01:15:51 PM

spentmiles: I grew up in a large family, twenty-eight siblings with thirty years between the youngest and oldest. Roughly half of us survived to adulthood. It wasn't uncommon that one of us, especially the younger ones, would go missing and no one would notice for weeks, possibly months. With that many people around, it was never a troubling loss, much less devastating. Although I can see how losing six at once might be sad for the parents, they still have over a 50% survival rate. That's pretty good considering they live in Derby, which is the abduction and child murder capital of England.


All I can do is flail in confusion.
 
2012-05-29 01:16:08 PM

Creoena: 14 kids at age 31?

Stop breeding, people.


a minimum of 10.5 years to pop all those kids out. Gotta give props. I don't think I ever had dreams that big out of high school.
 
Heb
2012-05-29 01:16:27 PM

spentmiles: I grew up in a large family, twenty-eight siblings with thirty years between the youngest and oldest. Roughly half of us survived to adulthood. It wasn't uncommon that one of us, especially the younger ones, would go missing and no one would notice for weeks, possibly months. With that many people around, it was never a troubling loss, much less devastating. Although I can see how losing six at once might be sad for the parents, they still have over a 50% survival rate. That's pretty good considering they live in Derby, which is the abduction and child murder capital of England.

28!!! Your old dear must have had a fanny like Marry Poppins Bag.
 
2012-05-29 01:16:56 PM
Philpott is a very British name.
 
2012-05-29 01:17:05 PM

spentmiles: I grew up in a large family, twenty-eight siblings with thirty years between the youngest and oldest. Roughly half of us survived to adulthood. It wasn't uncommon that one of us, especially the younger ones, would go missing and no one would notice for weeks, possibly months. With that many people around, it was never a troubling loss, much less devastating. Although I can see how losing six at once might be sad for the parents, they still have over a 50% survival rate. That's pretty good considering they live in Derby, which is the abduction and child murder capital of England.


Good hell. Your mom makes the Duggars look like amateurs.
50% is acceptable?
We are humans not rabbits.
Did your parents eat their young too?
 
2012-05-29 01:17:13 PM

mod3072: Huh. I've always thought those "we have 40 kids and have never worked a day in our lives so the government needs to give us a bigger free house because we deserve it for having children that we can't support" articles from the Daily Fail were sensationalized BS, but it turns out that at least one of them was true.


At least the UK is becoming secualrised, so the incidence of excessive family sizes is dropping. No such luck in the USA where 75% still believe in teh sky fairies.

/ my great-grandparents were Wee-Free's and had 11 kids
 
2012-05-29 01:18:27 PM
www.sabinabecker.com
 
2012-05-29 01:18:50 PM
Philpott? More like Cobblepot, eh?

/crackpot
 
2012-05-29 01:20:38 PM

Pert: Incredibly sad - my gut reaction is that they never wanted to harm the children and in desperation tried to engineer a move to a bigger house and it all went horribly wrong. In which case that means that 6 children have lost their lives and another 8 are going to spend a LONG time without their parents and (most likely) separated from each other.


I would hope that's the case. I still think back to a case probably 20 years ago now in Detroit where a car with three young boys and their parents had the gas pedal "get stuck" and go into the Detroit River. All three kids died and everyone felt so bad watching their mourning father cry on the local news. And then it turned out he purposely drove the car into the river to collect the insurance on the kids. When a parent gets desperate, they can become horrible monsters.
 
2012-05-29 01:22:59 PM

Santa's Knee: [itsokaytolikeit.com image 480x444]
"Whar housing application? WHAR?"


That is so disgusting and yet surprisingly well done...

Where can I buy one?

/I imagine being able to squish the belly and seeing gross little fetuses floating around like those novelty dollar store toys.
 
2012-05-29 01:23:01 PM

Korzine: Doesn't really sound like the police think the parents actually had anything to do with the fire though. Sounds like they found accelerant at the point where the fire started and are simply doing police work, probably asking questions like, "Did you store petrol in this location the mailbox?"


Because, according to TFA, that's where the fire started. Something tells me they've got this all figured out already.
 
2012-05-29 01:24:18 PM
The herd needed thinning anyway.
 
2012-05-29 01:24:21 PM

Dr.Knockboots: First thought:
14 kids? too many, they sound VERY trashy
-clicks link-
second thought:
They look very white trashy
third thought:
council house sounds like something the govt gives poor people for free
fourth thought:
the govt should've fixed these people

-I'm not even going to bother really reading the whole story..


You sort of sound like a fire would do you some good as well.
 
Heb
2012-05-29 01:24:43 PM

ParaHandy: mod3072: Huh. I've always thought those "we have 40 kids and have never worked a day in our lives so the government needs to give us a bigger free house because we deserve it for having children that we can't support" articles from the Daily Fail were sensationalized BS, but it turns out that at least one of them was true.

At least the UK is becoming secualrised, so the incidence of excessive family sizes is dropping. No such luck in the USA where 75% still believe in teh sky fairies.

/ my great-grandparents were Wee-Free's and had 11 kids


Becoming? People might still tick Church of England on the Census, but that's a reflection of culture not belief. Even back in 2007 only 15% of people in the UK went to church once a month or more.
 
2012-05-29 01:24:55 PM

EdNortonsTwin: I'm having difficulty understanding how could things get so desperate that someone could think "Our excess kids are a such burdeon honey, let's burn them alive", and then do so.


Should have sold them for medical experments
 
2012-05-29 01:26:02 PM

Pert: Dr.Knockboots: council house sounds like something the govt gives poor people for free

A council house isn't free, it's generally fairly basic accommodation given to prevent people from becoming homeless (especially children) and generally charged out at an affordable rent, although the rent may be covered by certain government benefits.

Sadly the first thing I thought when I initially saw the story a couple of weeks ago was that they may have burned the place down themselves to get moved into bigger accommodation, given that this nugget was included:

The family attracted attention in 2006 when Mr Philpott asked the council for a larger house to accommodate his wife, girlfriend and 14 children.

Incredibly sad - my gut reaction is that they never wanted to harm the children and in desperation tried to engineer a move to a bigger house and it all went horribly wrong. In which case that means that 6 children have lost their lives and another 8 are going to spend a LONG time without their parents and (most likely) separated from each other.

Dreadful, dreadful story...

Still, innocent until proven guilty, eh?


That's the first thing I thought of when I first saw it on the news.

Korzine: Doesn't really sound like the police think the parents actually had anything to do with the fire though. Sounds like they found accelerant at the point where the fire started and are simply doing police work, probably asking questions like, "Did you store petrol in this location?"

I'm going to go ahead and guess it's a "The government is not gonna use MY tax money to support these people any more" type person.


The popo actually arrested 2 suspects and released them without charge before arresting the parents.

The popo first believed that it could have been someone who was pissed off at the family for the audacity for asking for a bigger house.

/If you think your house/flat is too small, stop having farking kids.
 
2012-05-29 01:26:11 PM

Pert: AverageAmericanGuy: We're all probably better off that those ASBO magnets perished before they had time to continue this family line.

Valiente: One would think the impeding chav shortage would increase their value.

Jesus Christ, I know this is Fark but these are innocent dead children we're talking about.........

/welcometofark.jpg


I'm sorry you slipped on Kofi Annan's soap on the way in, friendo.
 
2012-05-29 01:26:36 PM
Well done spentmiles.

I believe that anyone with more than.... Let's say 4? Even though I want to say 2 kids is an egomaniacal, world-destroying douche.

Burning your unnecessary children alive though deserves proximite judgment.

/has no children on purpose
//world already sucks, why inflict that on anyone else?
 
2012-05-29 01:28:07 PM

cgraves67: Philpott is a very British name.


It's also a lifestyle choice and slang for a uterus.
 
2012-05-29 01:28:08 PM

lemortede: spentmiles: I grew up in a large family, twenty-eight siblings with thirty years between the youngest and oldest. Roughly half of us survived to adulthood. It wasn't uncommon that one of us, especially the younger ones, would go missing and no one would notice for weeks, possibly months. With that many people around, it was never a troubling loss, much less devastating. Although I can see how losing six at once might be sad for the parents, they still have over a 50% survival rate. That's pretty good considering they live in Derby, which is the abduction and child murder capital of England.

Good hell. Your mom makes the Duggars look like amateurs.
50% is acceptable?
We are humans not rabbits.
Did your parents eat their young too?


Seriously? People bit on spentmiles?
 
2012-05-29 01:28:08 PM
Why only one of the two adult females arrested? Maybe, somebody, somewhere was feeling a wee bit slighted?

I mean, as long as we're jumping to conclusions, let's jump high.
 
2012-05-29 01:28:49 PM
They didn't have to burn the house down to get rid of six kits. They could have just stuffed them back into her vagina. They'd have fit.
 
2012-05-29 01:29:37 PM
Can't get a bigger house? Get a smaller family.

**shiver**

Those poor kids...
 
2012-05-29 01:30:43 PM

cherryl taggart: Why only one of the two adult females arrested? Maybe, somebody, somewhere was feeling a wee bit slighted?

I mean, as long as we're jumping to conclusions, let's jump high.


If she'd jumped higher, she wouldn't have completed 14 pregnancies.
 
2012-05-29 01:31:17 PM
As an aside, what kind of sociopaths have 29 like that shiatty tlc show promotes. That's television worthy? Should be stockade worthy for the arrogant farkers.
 
2012-05-29 01:33:06 PM
At least he didn't set the fire to get donations for Christmas gifts. then try to have the girlfriend killed
only to get shanked in prison

Hope the bastards burn in hell, or at least get a bigger council house.
 
2012-05-29 01:33:51 PM

Pert: AverageAmericanGuy: We're all probably better off that those ASBO magnets perished before they had time to continue this family line.

Valiente: One would think the impeding chav shortage would increase their value.

Jesus Christ, I know this is Fark but these are innocent dead children we're talking about.........

/welcometofark.jpg


No family in the first world countries with more than eight kids can be considered innocent if I believe TLC right.
 
2012-05-29 01:37:08 PM

Shadyman: The family attracted attention in 2006 when Mr Philpott asked the council for a larger house to accommodate his wife, girlfriend and 14 children.

Wait. Wife and girlfriend under one roof?

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 435x326]


This was my first reaction as well.
 
2012-05-29 01:37:52 PM

inclemency: Even though I want to say 2 kids is an egomaniacal, world-destroying douche.


trust me, the Earth doesn't care that you are not having kids.

The rest of us thank you though.

For every kid you don't have, I'm having THREE!
 
2012-05-29 01:38:23 PM

Santa's Knee: [itsokaytolikeit.com image 480x444]
"Whar housing application? WHAR?"


I just listened to her interview with Howard Stern a couple days ago, and that woman is a flaked out ADHD weirdo. She's so manic, she could hardly pay attention to what he was asking, then barely gave any sort of coherent answer among her stream-of-consciousness ramblings.

I feel sorry for her kids - it's not their fault that they don't have a Dad and their Mom is reality-deficient.
 
2012-05-29 01:38:37 PM

LazarusLong42: Seriously? People bit on spentmiles?


Yeah, I'm starting to think he might not always be telling the truth.
 
2012-05-29 01:41:22 PM
On the bright side, this may be good for the surviving kids, since tragedies can really motivate people to improve their lives. This could really light a fire under them to break the cycle of poverty.
 
2012-05-29 01:43:12 PM

joyride75: LazarusLong42: Seriously? People bit on spentmiles?

Yeah, I'm starting to think he might not always be telling the truth.


Maybe 4chan is wonky today and the summerfags have invaded Fark.
 
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