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(Washington Examiner)   From the desk of Captain Obvious: The media has a different standard when it comes to unconfirmed negative rumors about Bush in 2000 and negative facts about Obama in 2012   (campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com) divider line 276
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2012-05-29 09:44:30 AM  
http://washingtonexaminer.com/

Nope, not even gonna give that one a page view.
 
2012-05-29 09:58:27 AM  
but... but.... bush!
 
2012-05-29 09:58:49 AM  
Yeah... It's a "best seller".

That'll happen when the publisher and other right wing groups buy palettes of them to give away for free.
 
2012-05-29 10:10:45 AM  

make me some tea: http://washingtonexaminer.com/

Nope, not even gonna give that one a page view.


Wise move. More false equivalence nonsense.
 
2012-05-29 10:11:20 AM  
Perhaps because Bush wasn't the incumbent in 2000 like Obama is in 2012.
 
2012-05-29 10:50:28 AM  
FTFA: For a while, the tale that Bush had been arrested for cocaine possession, even though it was told by an unknown author who was also a felon who apparently made the whole thing up -- that tale was the talk of the 2000 presidential race. (Hatfield committed suicide in 2001.)

itsnotamatch.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-05-29 11:12:42 AM  
Two books by two different authors tells us something about "the media" as a whole?

Captain Obvious says "'Conservatives' are whiny pussies who love to stoke fear and play the role of victim. They really don't know how to do anything else"
 
2012-05-29 11:18:17 AM  
Why do "you people" refuse to admit that there is obviously a double standard when it comes to reporting Obama's failures?
 
2012-05-29 11:20:31 AM  
But that's why we have Fox News. They make everything fair and balanced.
 
2012-05-29 11:21:57 AM  

xanadian: FTFA: For a while, the tale that Bush had been arrested for cocaine possession, even though it was told by an unknown author who was also a felon who apparently made the whole thing up -- that tale was the talk of the 2000 presidential race. (Hatfield committed suicide in 2001.)

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I blame that McCoy boy.
 
2012-05-29 11:26:34 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Why do "you people" refuse to admit that there is obviously a double standard when it comes to reporting Obama's failures?


You poor victim..."conservatives" just aren't given a fair chance at anything. "You people" are so unfairly treated. It brings a tear to the eye of bald eagles everywhere.
 
2012-05-29 11:33:00 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: Why do "you people" refuse to admit that there is obviously a double standard when it comes to reporting Obama's failures?


How is this piece an example of that? What "failure" is represented here? Rev. Wright shoots his mouth off and some alleged anonymous 3rd party allegedly offered him money to knock it off?

Wow - the media totally gave the uninvolved Obama a real pass on this one!
 
2012-05-29 11:34:49 AM  
I don't vote for either party...couldn't stand Bush and I don't like Obama either.

That being said, there is a double standard in the media when pointing out Bush's failures vs. Obama's.

Obama gets a pass on things like medical marijuana ("What I'm not going to be doing is using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue,"), closing Gitmo, creation of the Foreclosure Prevention Fund, etc. What continually amazes me is that liberals who were so passionate on these issues give him a pass on his broken promises which makes them as bad as conservatives giving Bush a pass for his misdeeds. Additionally, you seldom see anyone in the media criticize Obama on these issues.

I can see an argument being made that Obama is a better choice than x Republican...but not reporting, excusing or holding Obama accountable for his failures smacks of bias.
 
2012-05-29 11:41:14 AM  

slayer199: Additionally, you seldom see anyone in the media criticize Obama on these issues.


Baloney.
 
2012-05-29 11:42:58 AM  

xanadian: FTFA: For a while, the tale that Bush had been arrested for cocaine possession, even though it was told by an unknown author who was also a felon who apparently made the whole thing up -- that tale was the talk of the 2000 presidential race. (Hatfield committed suicide in 2001.)


This. I kept waiting, the entire campaign, for them to deny that story. They never did. They did everything the could to destroy Hatfield's credibility, and ultimately Hatfield himself. But they never said it didn't happen. Not that I would have ever voted for Bush anyway, but this incident totally put me off him and his methods for good.
 
2012-05-29 11:44:34 AM  
I didn't vote for either party... couldn't stand Bush and I don't like Obama either. But you have to admit, Obama is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY bad.
 
2012-05-29 11:50:20 AM  

Diogenes: Baloney.


Oh? Other than Reason.com (which is a libertarian site), only HuffPo has been consistently critical of Obama on medical marijuana. Hell, his own party (Pelosi and Frank) have been more critical of Obama on the issue than the media. NYTimes wrote a piece excusing Obama on his failure to close Gitmo (due to government inertia against closure). Factor in his promise of government transparency (not), his non-war war with Libya, and he gets a pass more often than not.

Let me ask....are YOU critical of Obama on these issues or does he get a pass from you as well? Seems like fark liberals are willing to give Obama a pass as well.

I'm writing from the standpoint of someone that can't stand either party and has voted 3rd party for more than 20 years. If you don't believe the media tilts to the left (other than Fox News which is extreme right), then perhaps it says more about your personal bias than it says about the media.
 
2012-05-29 11:56:03 AM  

slayer199: Seems like fark liberals are willing to give Obama a pass as well.


hahhhhhh holy shiat
 
2012-05-29 11:56:40 AM  

Jackson Herring: I didn't vote for either party... couldn't stand Bush and I don't like Obama either. But you have to admit, Obama is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY bad.


Yeah, he bad. "Shaft" kind of bad.
 
2012-05-29 12:06:36 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Why do "you people" refuse to admit that there is obviously a double standard when it comes to reporting Obama's failures?


How could they report on Bush's failures before he had any?
 
2012-05-29 12:13:55 PM  

slayer199: What continually amazes me is that liberals who were so passionate on these issues give him a pass on his broken promises


Are you new around here? "Liberals" who were so passionate on these issues (I'm not a liberal, but I want to see Gitmo closed) are vocally disappointed about these issues. It's not that they aren't upset, it's that the Republicans have answered by doubling down on the stupid rather than trying to bring those who are to their side.
 
2012-05-29 12:16:02 PM  
Some trolls here seem to neglect reality: we have had like TEN birther greens in the past couple days.

But yeah, buy into the double standard, you farking twits.
 
2012-05-29 12:16:48 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: wo books by two different authors tells us something about "the media" as a whole?


Authors are now media?

Shoooot. I've written stuff that has been published (beyond Fark even). So now I'm a member of the evil media elite? Bwuh huh huh haa ha ha
 
2012-05-29 12:17:08 PM  

coeyagi: Some trolls here seem to neglect reality: we have had like TEN birther greens in the past couple days.

But yeah, buy into the double standard, you farking twits.


Where's your flag pin commie?
 
2012-05-29 12:17:29 PM  

slayer199: Obama gets a pass on things like medical marijuana ("What I'm not going to be doing is using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue,"), closing Gitmo, creation of the Foreclosure Prevention Fund, etc


You understand that he's not a dictator, right? There are other powerful bodies of government involved in these decisions.
 
2012-05-29 12:18:02 PM  

Jackson Herring: I didn't vote for either party... couldn't stand Bush and I don't like Obama either. But you have to admit, Obama is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY bad.


President Bill Pullman: Today (in this thread), we celebrate our Independents™ Day! (cue patriotic David Arnold music)
 
2012-05-29 12:18:51 PM  

DarnoKonrad: coeyagi: Some trolls here seem to neglect reality: we have had like TEN birther greens in the past couple days.

But yeah, buy into the double standard, you farking twits.

Where's your flag pin commie?


Dunno, lemme go talk to the binder clips over here. Maybe they stole it.
 
2012-05-29 12:19:04 PM  
Yeah we never heard about the rumors about Obama's Kenyan birth, or his ties to Reverend Wright, or Bill Ayers, or the rumor that he didn't really write his book, or the "madrassa" he supposedly attended growing up, or ...
 
2012-05-29 12:19:25 PM  
I see the GOP is starting early to pick out reasons Romney will lose in November. Anything rather than looking in the mirror, I suppose.
 
2012-05-29 12:20:08 PM  
Not all campaign books are treated equally. Just look at Edward Klein and J.H. Hatfield.

Klein, of course, is the author of the new book "The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House." Hatfield, now dead and forgotten, wrote a book about George W. Bush, "Fortunate Son," during the 2000 presidential contest.


Oh, of course. Anybody who's anybody is intimately familiar with the writings of Edward Klein.
/SARCASM
 
2012-05-29 12:20:18 PM  
The right would rather discuss Obamas place of birth, 57 states, his lack of experience and the police state Obama will start once he becomes President. They have no time to discuss his actual record.
 
2012-05-29 12:20:30 PM  

timujin: slayer199: What continually amazes me is that liberals who were so passionate on these issues give him a pass on his broken promises

Are you new around here? "Liberals" who were so passionate on these issues (I'm not a liberal, but I want to see Gitmo closed) are vocally disappointed about these issues. It's not that they aren't upset, it's that the Republicans have answered by doubling down on the stupid rather than trying to bring those who are to their side.


If memory serves, Obama did actually try to close Gitmo, but Congress axed the idea.
 
2012-05-29 12:22:02 PM  
We know the following: Bush was arrested as a juvenile and never revealed why he was arrested; and, Bush was grounded (the rest of his records were "accidentally" destroyed).

No explanation for either has ever been offered...
 
2012-05-29 12:22:13 PM  
So in one book, Bush was allegedly arrested for cocaine possession.

In the other, Rev. Wright says that a friend of Obama's offered him a bribe to stay out of the public eye, which he refused.

Clearly since these are identical situations the media's handling of them shows flagrant bias.
 
2012-05-29 12:22:50 PM  
This is nothing compared to when Obama sent his jackbooted assassin squad to kill a fine, upstanding, lib-hater in his sleep.
 
2012-05-29 12:22:53 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Yeah we never heard about the rumors about Obama's Kenyan birth, or his ties to Reverend Wright, or Bill Ayers, or the rumor that he didn't really write his book, or the "madrassa" he supposedly attended growing up, or ...


... binder clips is proof of his Leninist background, he has Imperialist Japan aspirations because he allowed his daughters to eat edamame on 12/7, or that by drinking Yuengling he's secretly a Neonazi, or by eating Grey Poupon he's secretly negotiating a re-takeover with of the United States by Britian, or by eating dog in Indonesia (and acquiring it's soul), he's secretly trying to become a socialist Lycan to take over the Vampires of the GOP... or...
 
2012-05-29 12:24:05 PM  

slayer199: Diogenes: Baloney.

Oh? Other than Reason.com (which is a libertarian site), only HuffPo has been consistently critical of Obama on medical marijuana. Hell, his own party (Pelosi and Frank) have been more critical of Obama on the issue than the media. NYTimes wrote a piece excusing Obama on his failure to close Gitmo (due to government inertia against closure). Factor in his promise of government transparency (not), his non-war war with Libya, and he gets a pass more often than not.

Let me ask....are YOU critical of Obama on these issues or does he get a pass from you as well? Seems like fark liberals are willing to give Obama a pass as well.

I'm writing from the standpoint of someone that can't stand either party and has voted 3rd party for more than 20 years. If you don't believe the media tilts to the left (other than Fox News which is extreme right), then perhaps it says more about your personal bias than it says about the media.


7/10
 
2012-05-29 12:24:55 PM  
This is different because black.
 
2012-05-29 12:25:04 PM  
FTFA: Unlike the media storm over "Fortunate Son," the Wright revelation has attracted very little comment in the press. The Associated Press and most of those outlets that talked about Bush and cocaine? They've had little or nothing to say about Jeremiah Wright and alleged payoffs.

Two things:

1: The Wright issue has been hashed out over and over and over again in the press. If they've ignored this latest revelation in the case, it's only because nobody gives a shiat about Wright at this point.

2: Drugs and sex sell. Thus, they're what the media focuses on. This is why the Lewinsky affair was a media circus, but the fact that the Bush White House lied to get us into Iraq was barely a blip on the radar.
 
2012-05-29 12:25:23 PM  
You mean like how the media slurps every negative rumor about Obama like the cure for cancer is in there, whereas they carried water for Bush right up until they had to try to get behind McCain and Palin instead?
 
2012-05-29 12:27:03 PM  
No, Captain Obvious would never get hired at the Washington Examiner.
 
2012-05-29 12:27:38 PM  
I'm glad we're finally getting a book about Obama, there's been a real gap in the market.
 
2012-05-29 12:27:44 PM  

slayer199: only HuffPo has been consistently critical of Obama on medical marijuana.


I've seen plenty of criticism from people who support medical marijuana (HuffPo included). If you're expecting to see criticism from people who agree with Obama on the issue, I suggest holding your breath. That usually works.

slayer199: his own party (Pelosi and Frank) have been more critical of Obama on the issue than the media


Who reported on that criticism? If your answer is "the media", that kind of blows your point out of the water.
 
2012-05-29 12:27:48 PM  

timujin: slayer199: What continually amazes me is that liberals who were so passionate on these issues give him a pass on his broken promises

Are you new around here? "Liberals" who were so passionate on these issues (I'm not a liberal, but I want to see Gitmo closed) are vocally disappointed about these issues. It's not that they aren't upset, it's that the Republicans have answered by doubling down on the stupid rather than trying to bring those who are to their side.



This, this this.

There are liberals who aren't happy with Obama and his center right type of governing, but because of where he stands, the Republicans are moving farther right, instead of courting new constituents.

John Stewart is the typical example the right has for the left's mouthpiece, and he has been critical of Obama on many, many things. I don't know of any right wing piece of media (although I am only stating from what I've seen and I may be wrong) that ever was critical of Bush, frankly about anything.

The difference between real liberals and real conservatives is tht real liberals have very little representation in government.
 
2012-05-29 12:28:01 PM  
From the comments. For your consideration, I think it speaks for its self:

Pompus

The fact that Precious Token is going to lose in a landslide, despite having the media as an arm of his campaign and despite a massive well-organized effort to promote vote fraud, underscores just how truly worthless and despicable Precious Token truly is. No candidate in American history has ever had the media so 100% in his back pocket--effectively embargoing any news that might negatively reflect on their Precious Token--yet he is going down and going down hard. Lesson=the presidency is not the kind of position to be filled with reference to affirmative action quotas. America has finally awakened and smelled the coffee. Oh, and good luck getting another black person elected president any time in the next 100 years. It has now been demonstrated that election of a black man comes complete with the implicit threat of race riots and mass beatings and murders of whites who resist a redistributionist agenda. Never again.
 
2012-05-29 12:28:30 PM  

SurfaceTension: xanadian: FTFA: For a while, the tale that Bush had been arrested for cocaine possession, even though it was told by an unknown author who was also a felon who apparently made the whole thing up -- that tale was the talk of the 2000 presidential race. (Hatfield committed suicide in 2001.)

This. I kept waiting, the entire campaign, for them to deny that story. They never did. They did everything the could to destroy Hatfield's credibility, and ultimately Hatfield himself. But they never said it didn't happen. Not that I would have ever voted for Bush anyway, but this incident totally put me off him and his methods for good.


It was pretty well known that Bush Jr had substance abuse problems even before Hatfield's book came out.

Likewise Wright's "God damn America" was beaten like a dead horse throughout the entire 2008 campaign.

But this is the Examiner who don't want facts to get in the way of their narrative.
 
2012-05-29 12:29:01 PM  

slayer199: Obama gets a pass on...closing Gitmo..what continually amazes me is that liberals...give him a pass


If "liberals give him a pass" on the issue of Gitmo in particular then it would probably be because they're knowledgeable enough to know that Congress has refused on all accounts to appropriate any funds to close out Gitmo or transfer any prisoners out of the facility, even though both Presidents Obama and Bush wanted to do so. If you weren't concern trolling, you could have done a quick search figured out the facts. If Congress absolutely refuses to cooperate there isn't much there that the President can do--Congress holds the power of the purse and therefore they, not the President, are responsible for the failure to close Gitmo.
 
2012-05-29 12:29:44 PM  

PanicMan: It has now been demonstrated that election of a black man comes complete with the implicit threat of race riots and mass beatings and murders of whites who resist a redistributionist agenda. Never again.


holy. f*cking. christ. how did you go through the comments to find that gem without your face melting off?
 
2012-05-29 12:29:51 PM  

slayer199: I don't vote for either party...couldn't stand Bush and I don't like Obama either.

That being said, there is a double standard in the media when pointing out Bush's failures vs. Obama's.

Obama gets a pass on things like medical marijuana ("What I'm not going to be doing is using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue,"), closing Gitmo, creation of the Foreclosure Prevention Fund, etc. What continually amazes me is that liberals who were so passionate on these issues give him a pass on his broken promises which makes them as bad as conservatives giving Bush a pass for his misdeeds. Additionally, you seldom see anyone in the media criticize Obama on these issues.

I can see an argument being made that Obama is a better choice than x Republican...but not reporting, excusing or holding Obama accountable for his failures smacks of bias.


That's because Obama tried to do those things and met with GOP fear-mongering and barriers that he was thwarted. I can't blame him for that, though I supposed he could have just used signing statements to circumvent the law a la Bush.
 
2012-05-29 12:30:07 PM  

PanicMan: The fact that Precious Token is going to lose in a landslide, despite having the media as an arm of his campaign and despite a massive well-organized effort to promote vote fraud, underscores just how truly worthless and despicable Precious Token truly is. No candidate in American history has ever had the media so 100% in his back pocket--effectively embargoing any news that might negatively reflect on their Precious Token--yet he is going down and going down hard. Lesson=the presidency is not the kind of position to be filled with reference to affirmative action quotas. America has finally awakened and smelled the coffee. Oh, and good luck getting another black person elected president any time in the next 100 years. It has now been demonstrated that election of a black man comes complete with the implicit threat of race riots and mass beatings and murders of whites who resist a redistributionist agenda. Never again.


I'm guessing the site filters all the slave names from "Roots".
 
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