With regard to the Wright imbroglio--I doubt there isn't a black church in the entire country in which the pastor doesn't inveigh against systemic racism in the United States at least once a month. Can you blame them? Look hard enough at anyone's background and you will find multiple examples of guilt by association, if that's what you want to find. The simple fact of the matter is, whatever black church Obama chose to attend during his Chicago days, chances are excellent it had a Rev. Wright somewhere in the vicinity. The game of "heads I win, tails you lose" may be fun to play but it doesn't serve to prove anything except for the fact that the person indulging in it is a douche.

That twit used a lot of words to essentially say "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!! The media won't endlessly repeat our anti-Obama talking points!"

ox45tallboy: Mike Chewbacca: For the record, I'm somewhere around (-4.5, -5). You can understand why I consider myself to be unrepresented in our government.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Strict libertarianism does NOT advance a society; it discourages people from working together for a common goal.

Who said anything about strict libertarianism? Of course, I'd be happy if everyone in our government dropped down to around 1 or 2 rather than the 6 or 7 they are now.

ox45tallboy: Mike Chewbacca: How does a troll like tenpoundsofcheese have 14 greens?

Hey, I'd like to think that the modmins generally judge a headline on its merits, rather than by the submitter.

Hahahahaha!

Oh, the victimhood!

i like to pretend like I've never heard of any of the nontroversies, it infuriates tards.

me: Rev. Wright, who's that?
them: blah,blah,blah, on Fox news...
me: What channel is this Fox news on... i never heard of them...
them: OMG! blah,blah,BLAH!...
me: i think you're just making it all up
them: head assplodin'

The Washington Examiner cured my flatulence, or so they claim. Hand me another Dependz.

slayer199: Obama gets a pass on things like medical marijuana ("What I'm not going to be doing is using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue,"), closing Gitmo, creation of the Foreclosure Prevention Fund, etc. What continually amazes me is that liberals who were so passionate on these issues give him a pass on his broken promises which makes them as bad as conservatives giving Bush a pass for his misdeeds. Additionally, you seldom see anyone in the media criticize Obama on these issues.

Allow me to float an idea. I think this may actually not be because the media gives him a pass, but rather because the opposition party gives him a pass on these issues. The mainstream media are biased toward ratings, and unless you can get someone from the other side up there yelling about the issue, then you're not going to get the same ratings. When Bush was running Guantanamo, there were democrats willing to stand up and say "this is wrong!". Obama has done at least enough to keep most of his base from standing up and opposing him (sure they grumble, but that doesn't make for good TV - you'd need a real rift in the party before that became profitable), and you aren't going to find the Republican party yelling about how he didn't close Guantanamo, or is killing too many terrorists. The fact that the media isn't reporting on them makes me think that the Republicans haven't opposed these issues effectively, either because they agree with Obama or because they've decided these aren't important issues at the moment.

If the opposition party is making it's loudest and most dramatic stand on health care reform, the birth certificate issue, and the economy, then that's what the media will focus on. There's no one currently making it profitable for the media to report on other things the president is doing, which means that the media won't report on them, and the president gets to go along without the same level of scrutiny.

You just never hear anything negative about Obama. Other than all the negative things.

I'm consistently amazed at how people cry about not knowing anything about the man when they can recite his family tree going back three generations, where he went to school since the age of 2, every friend he has had for the past 30 years, details about his birth certificate, and every single page from two different books he has written.

The man is a mystery wrapped in an enigma that was jizzed on by Winston Churchill.

Poopspasm: The old republican party is just the new democratic party. The only way you're hosed is if you have truly liberal ideas. For example, I believe that victimless crimes should all be struck off, that the wealthy should be taxed at a higher rate, that the military budget should be cut by about 25% and the resultant savings invested in education and energy infrastructure, that elections should be publicly funded (and "donating" to political campaigns should be punishable by life in prison), and that medical care should be a right. Show me who's fighting for my ideas.

With the exception of throwing people in jail for donating to elections, I'm right there with you. I'm just talking about the very specific case of people who want to classify themselves AS Republican, but don't support batsh*t insanity. It's really more of a semantic argument that I'm making.

As for somebody to fight for liberal ideals, you're right. There's nobody. And this is also a damn shame.

slayer199: I'm NOT saying Romney or any other Republican would be better.

That's kinda the point then.

Liberals aren't going to vote for Romney and they can assume that he would be worse on marijuana and gay rights issues. So, people are left with accepting someone that is remotely close to what they believe, even if there are major differences.

Oh good, it's this thread again. I am going just going to pony bomb these from now on.

Why doesn't the media cover the false equivalencies that right-wing hacks want them to cover?!?!?!?

Just think, conservatives, if the media stopped covering fake death panels, Obama's birth certificate, and Reverend Wright...they might actually cover the stuff that Liberals hate Obama for

bulldg4life: slayer199: I'm NOT saying Romney or any other Republican would be better.

That's kinda the point then.

Liberals aren't going to vote for Romney and they can assume that he would be worse on marijuana and gay rights issues. So, people are left with accepting someone that is remotely close to what they believe, even if there are major differences.

Exactly.

Jeremiah Wright? That is what this is all about? Maybe the reason is because nobody really cares about Jeremiah Wright. Nobody is scared of him or feel he has programmed President to "hate America" and enslave the Caucasian race. I think I an starting to understand this Jeremiah Wright derangement syndrome.

It is kind of like the "Half Hour News Hour" and why it never caught on with anyone other than the hardcore FOX News viewership unlike The Daily Show. Their jokes were based on stereotypes and opinions that only a hardcore conservative FOX News viewer would understand and actually "get" the joke. Since they find it so funny they can't concieve anyone else not finding it funny, they blame the "liberal media" for not covering it like the Daily Show and that is why it failed.

Well to them Jeremiah Wright is the personification of evil and they fel President Obama is his puppet. They are "outraged" and frustrated why most people do not share their outrage. Since they can't comprehend most people don't care they blame the "liberal media" for "burying" the story. They just feel if they raise enough noise the "liberal media" and all the "sheeple" who will not "group think" like them will finally see the "light" and no longer support President Obama. Because in reality most normal people just done't care about Jeremiah Wright, the people suffering from Jeremiah Wright derangement syndrome get all frustrated like the author of the article referenced in this thread.

Yeah, like how that whole "Birther" thing completely went away the moment President Obama showed his birth certificate. Or how President Bush's record of going AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard was spotlighted in the 2004 election!

PanicMan: Not all campaign books are treated equally. Just look at Edward Klein and J.H. Hatfield.

Klein, of course, is the author of the new book "The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House." Hatfield, now dead and forgotten, wrote a book about George W. Bush, "Fortunate Son," during the 2000 presidential contest.

Oh, of course. Anybody who's anybody is intimately familiar with the writings of Edward Klein.
/SARCASM

Hatfield wrote an anti-Bush book, then killed himself.

I'm sure the right-wing wouldn't freak the fark out if Klein was to commit suicide. If they did, that would look like a double-standard.

PanicMan: From the comments. For your consideration, I think it speaks for its self:

Pompus

The fact that Precious Token is going to lose in a landslide, despite having the media as an arm of his campaign and despite a massive well-organized effort to promote vote fraud, underscores just how truly worthless and despicable Precious Token truly is. No candidate in American history has ever had the media so 100% in his back pocket--effectively embargoing any news that might negatively reflect on their Precious Token--yet he is going down and going down hard. Lesson=the presidency is not the kind of position to be filled with reference to affirmative action quotas. America has finally awakened and smelled the coffee. Oh, and good luck getting another black person elected president any time in the next 100 years. It has now been demonstrated that election of a black man comes complete with the implicit threat of race riots and mass beatings and murders of whites who resist a redistributionist agenda. Never again.

Holy shiat, that actually made me dumber by reading that. Whoever wrote that is a bad person, and should feel bad for writing that.

slayer199: Note: I never said a thing about being conservative or liberal. I love how you make the assumption that I'm a conservative drone because I had the audacity to criticize your dear leader.

When you say stupid crap like that, you pretty much make it obvious that you are a retard.

aug3: i like to pretend like I've never heard of any of the nontroversies, it infuriates tards.

I make them break it down and see where the talking point runs out of fuel.

Who is he? And what did he do? What is a czar? When was this? How is that socialism? Why is that bad? How much would that cost? How did this happen with no one knowing about it?

"How can you guys be so unhappy with Obama when I'm so unhappy with Obama? You think you got coal in your stocking? I wanted single-payer health care, a carbon emissions bill, gun control, and legalized pot. If you get to carry around all this outrage over me getting that shiat, shouldn't I have gotten it?"

--Some guy in the media who never criticizes Obama

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What actual bias looks like:

Dennis Miller has usually been happy to spray his acerbic wit across the political spectrum, but things will be different on his new CNBC talk program. President Bush is in a mock-free zone.

"I like him," Miller explained. "I'm going to give him a pass. I take care of my friends."

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making up lies and then crying about then is what keeps the media in false balance mode. It's a working strategy for the "conservative" agenda.

slayer199: Either way it's nobody else's damn business who wants to be married so long as they're adults.

Does that mean you're happy with Obama's approach to DOMA?

slayer199: ox45tallboy: slayer199: So it's only a state's rights issue when it's gay marriage (despite the fact that a majority of the population does not support gay marriage and a number of states have passed laws banning it)

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That's good news...but there was a thread a week or two ago about a poll where it wasn't a majority. Still not to the point of being a clear majority. It really depends on how the question is phrased. In the polls I've read, If the question is legalized civil unions it's a majority...if it's marriage it isn't. Either way it's nobody else's damn business who wants to be married so long as they're adults. Considering that 32 states have voted NOT to legalize it, support is not there.

That's because old people are dicks.



/my Silent Generation parents both support(ed) gay marriage.

There are a lot of legitemate criticisms which can be levied against President Obama by conservatives inthsi upcomming Presidential election. When on topic the conservatives do gain political points with the public. Yet for some reason they can't stay on topic. They have to go "derp" and bring up stuff like LGBT bigotry, anti-birth control, questioning President Obama's citizenship, and Jeremiah Wright. Stuff nobody cares about and turns independent voters off. It is like they have "derped" so much they cannot control it. It seems like "derp" and the GOP " seems to have a relationship like the scorpion and the frog.

slayer199: Need I point out again how the media fawned Obama for taking on the issue of gay marriage (state's rights) while NOT attacking him on medical marijuana (state's rights).

I may have missed it, but when did Obama discuss gay marriage in the context of state's rights? I thought he wants it to be legal everywhere and not have it be a state-to-state issue. You seem to be placing your own personal viewpoint filter on this.