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2012-05-29 11:52:04 AM
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2012-05-29 11:54:29 AM
No shiat. Seal Team 1 goes into Norkville via Kodiak then sub.
 
2012-05-29 11:55:51 AM
What the General MEANT to say is that the US has NOT been parachuting Special Forces into North Korea to perform special reconnaissance while wearing funny hats.
 
2012-05-29 11:57:16 AM
I'm glad that's cleared up. I guess we can resume talking about the Flame malware that may or may not have been sent to Iran by us.
 
2012-05-29 12:01:12 PM
The CIA does not count as troops, right?
 
2012-05-29 12:03:03 PM
And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....
 
2012-05-29 12:03:18 PM
Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?
 
2012-05-29 12:04:29 PM

Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....



I'm pretty sure Americans would feel right at home in a rural Burger King. ;)
 
2012-05-29 12:05:17 PM

mongbiohazard: Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


I'm pretty sure Americans would feel right at home in a rural Burger King. ;)


B is for Best. ;-)
 
2012-05-29 12:05:51 PM

AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?


It's the fapping outside the window.
 
2012-05-29 12:06:24 PM

AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?


'Cause who your ex is dating isn't a matter of national or global security.

Snukes not withstanding...
 
2012-05-29 12:07:30 PM
What the General MEANT to say is that the US has NOT been parachuting Special Forces into North Korea to perform special reconnaissance -At least not anymore, thanks a lot, Gen Bigmouth
 
2012-05-29 12:08:04 PM
The fun part is when there's another surge of "traffic deaths" over the next two weeks as Nork officials get "retired" for not finding the troops we never sent in...
 
2012-05-29 12:12:25 PM
www.filmoa.com
"We're gonna have to wingsuit in. It's the only way to get cose."
/hot
 
2012-05-29 12:13:57 PM
I would be surprised if south Korea hasn't done soundings and readings with ground-penetrating radar to ferret out most of the tunnels. They likely have a sensor network sensitive enough to detect the changing of the guard in Panmunjom.
 
2012-05-29 12:14:19 PM
FTA: "We don't know how many we don't know about."

nice
 
2012-05-29 12:14:32 PM
Godspeed guys. Get home safely. In a sub. On the way to Yemen. And then another cross-border mission into Iran. Happy Memorial Day!
 
2012-05-29 12:16:48 PM

kryphon: [www.filmoa.com image 640x360]
"We're gonna have to wingsuit in. It's the only way to get cose."
/hot


Heh, I just watched that over the weekend. Still lots of fun.

Anyways, I sincerely hope that they did parachute in. N. Korea really needs to be taken down. There are people dying from starvation, disease, and torture every single day. It needs to go away.
 
2012-05-29 12:19:19 PM
If anyone is genuinely surprised that this would be happening:

/slap
//double slap
 
2012-05-29 12:19:32 PM
And Iran. There are no boots on the ground in Iran. Talking about boots on the ground could be dangerous to the boots. Poor little boots. Leave the boots alone!

What about the claims from the White House and elsewhere that American agents are in Iran, making contact with dissidents, gathering information, etc.?

The White House doesn't know anything about covert activities in Iran.

Are they prepping for an eventual attack on Iran's nuclear cababilities?

The Pentagon has no knowledge of preparations for anything, although naturally we are prepared for everything.

I obtained this redacted intelligence report. The only word visible is "Moon". Is the US Government interested in the Moon?

That was a typo. They probably meant Noon.

So you deny the USA is interested in the Moon?

I don't know anything about the Moon. The Moon is classified. Nobody ever saw the Moon. You can't prove anything. This astronomy business is pure speculation. The Moon is just a theory.

But surely everybody knows the Moon exists?

The Moon may exist for civilian purposes but the Moon does not exist for military or intelligence purposes. We have nothing further to say on this subject. This press conference is over.
 
2012-05-29 12:20:02 PM
Leak my foot. Now BK resources are being expended in Chinese fire drill fashion to find all the phantom westerners. Hyena laughs can be heard in the pentagon passageways. International jokes and leg pulling can be costly.
 
2012-05-29 12:23:29 PM

sure haven't: kryphon: [www.filmoa.com image 640x360]
"We're gonna have to wingsuit in. It's the only way to get cose."
/hot

Heh, I just watched that over the weekend. Still lots of fun.

Anyways, I sincerely hope that they did parachute in. N. Korea really needs to be taken down. There are people dying from starvation, disease, and torture every single day. It needs to go away.


Meh don't honestly give a damn about the people. They aren't worth the expense of invading and rebuilding. It'd take decades to bring them up to the modern level. The cost to benefit ratio is skewed totally. I'd rather let China deal with it and they pragmatically have same reasoning I have so nothing happens.

Still having a nutjob crazy with weapons waving them around to compensate for the parts fatty hasn't seen in years that is the key problem that may need a bit of work. If they were just sitting quietly in the corner being crazy on the inside and not bothering anyone we could safely ignore them totally. As is though they're a problem.
 
2012-05-29 12:26:06 PM
This is a press conference! The last thing I'm going to do is answer a lot of questions!

/not obscure
 
2012-05-29 12:27:24 PM

Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


Would have worked like a charm in 1986.
www.swotti.com
 
2012-05-29 12:31:38 PM
Loose hips swing dips, as the beat boys say.

The moment she walked into the room I knew she was trouble. The persistant bass drum line told me.

Her nickname was Cassandra. They called her that because even when you saw her in a real good light, you couldn't believe her.

My name was Caligula Jones. My parents were dips. Swinging dips. My Mother wasn't too bad but my Father was more ignorant that a Presidential Press Secretary defending his boss agains charges of pretty much everything going.

But that's a horse of another color. This is about war. The first casualty of war is balanced budgets, but never mind that, it has nothing to do with this case. The truth also takes a big hit in wars, and my job was uncovering the truth and then covering it up again somewhere where it's not so easy to find the next time somebody goes looking--especially if they're paying me well to do the looking. I am, so to speak, in the recovery and disposal business.

But I digress. This discussion is about North Korea, not about covert war with the Axis Powers. Suffice to say I took one look at her and I ran. Ba-da-boom! Bing!
 
2012-05-29 12:31:47 PM
Anyways, I sincerely hope that they did parachute in. N. Korea really needs to be taken down. There are people dying from starvation, disease, and torture every single day. It needs to go away.

It is, to say the least, not our problem. They have no resources that we need, they are not actively attempting any hostile takeovers of neighboring countries, and they are not doing anything to directly harm Americans. In short, the problem is entirely "over there" and we are way "over here." Consequently, I think that if the North Koreans want a better life, they need to arm themselves with pitchforks and whatever else they can find and go pick a fight. The last thing we need right now is another war.
 
2012-05-29 12:33:47 PM

xaldin: Meh don't honestly give a damn about the people.



You sound like a really nice caring loving person.
 
2012-05-29 12:34:30 PM

pho75: It is, to say the least, not our problem.



What? You mean the Korean War is just a libtard myth?
 
2012-05-29 12:35:40 PM

The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: I would be surprised if south Korea hasn't done soundings and readings with ground-penetrating radar to ferret out most of the tunnels. They likely have a sensor network sensitive enough to detect the changing of the guard in Panmunjom.


UGS. Unattended ground sensors.

They work very well when installed correctly. The challenge is data exfiltration. Most are designed to communicate via radio. That makes them vulnerable to being scouted out when they sound.

Several options for more covert action exist however.

1. Planned asset loss with a full transmission after a period of collection. Ie dump the data at once over the air. Zeroize memory.

2. Don't care. Let them operate as normal and if they are found, then we learn about the North's EM scan capability an patrol response patterns. We would know when the device is approached.

3. Covert extraction. No rf transmission. Data collection by hand. Personally this option seems way too risky on many levels.

4. Basic one time tripline reporting. Can be done by RF but other methods exist.

5. Goofy stuff (return flight AUAVS) not likely.
 
2012-05-29 12:42:52 PM
No face palms yet?
 
2012-05-29 12:45:01 PM

AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?


I know there may be some attractive North Korean women, but parachuting in seems rather desperate.
 
2012-05-29 12:46:06 PM

Joe Peanut: mongbiohazard: Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


I'm pretty sure Americans would feel right at home in a rural Burger King. ;)

B is for Best. ;-)


Best King?

That's just silly...
 
2012-05-29 12:46:07 PM
The reporter, David Axe, started to back off his report (the original story has been pulled off the Diplomat site), but other reporters at the special ops conference (in Florida last week) are backing him up, saying the general did say what he said, and not as a hypothetical: Context of the Korea Special Forces Story

The general, in correspondence to someone else, says he "misspoke."

/stubmitter
 
2012-05-29 12:50:39 PM
Grated cheese and rice on crackers! This article was a pile of meaningless gibberish.

Do these people not know the differences between Special Forces, Special Operations Forces, and Special Recon Forces?

Why this is news is beyond me. Black ops units have been doing special recon since the early sixties. How is this news?
 
2012-05-29 12:51:04 PM
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Ted: My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're coming in from the north, below their radar.
 
2012-05-29 12:51:21 PM

AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?


It's probably what you're wearing. Just wear camo and carry a rifle. Shouldn't be a problem.
 
2012-05-29 12:53:57 PM

intelligent comment below: xaldin: Meh don't honestly give a damn about the people.


You sound like a really nice caring loving person.


Not everybody is our concern. Our house isn't in order. They can starve until we have our act together for all many of us care.
 
2012-05-29 12:53:59 PM

Snarfangel: AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?

I know there may be some attractive North Korean women, but parachuting in seems rather desperate.


HALO with long glide path from the back of a cargo "UPS" plane. NBD.
 
2012-05-29 12:54:49 PM

Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


Have you walked into your local liquor store or donut shop lately?
 
2012-05-29 12:54:57 PM

Odoriferous Queef: AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?

It's the fapping outside the window.


`'Tis some visitor,' I muttered, `fapping at my chamber door -
Only this, and nothing more.'
 
2012-05-29 01:07:04 PM

Joe Peanut: mongbiohazard: Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


I'm pretty sure Americans would feel right at home in a rural Burger King. ;)

B is for Best. ;-)

Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


Hmmm you do realize that there are plenty of Asian Americans in the US military right? .... or are you just making your usual stereotype where American = white only?
 
2012-05-29 01:10:18 PM

Snarfangel: Odoriferous Queef: AsprinBurn: Why is it that if Navy SEALS do it, it's called recon, but when I do it, it's called stalking?

It's the fapping outside the window.

`'Tis some visitor,' I muttered, `fapping at my chamber door -
Only this, and nothing more.'


Too damn funny,

/ I got nothing.
 
2012-05-29 01:10:54 PM
The sad part is journalists feel entitled to try and endanger the lives of SpecOps soldiers in pursuit of 'getting the story'. They will routinely use snippets of information across a variety of conferences/press releases, make a guess, and attempt to pass off like they know something in an effort to gain additional information from folks who then believe they know more than they do. The worst part is if they find something, they'll actually -have to be pressured- to give the military time to extract forces before running the story. They would rather run the story than ensure the safety of the folks involved.

That, is sickening.

Citation needed? It happened frequently '01-'04, feel free to google it yourself. Still happens today. Black Ops makes for pageviews, pageviews make ad impressions, ad revenue creates cash flow. Cash > Lives.
 
2012-05-29 01:11:43 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Not everybody is our concern. Our house isn't in order. They can starve until we have our act together for all many of us care.



So you fark up and split a country then say "It's not our problem!"

That's rich.

Of course you don't care, you're a selfish arrogant fark like many people.
 
2012-05-29 01:13:58 PM
And it's most certainly NOT about the B-3 bomber.
 
2012-05-29 01:17:40 PM

pho75: the problem is entirely "over there" and we are way "over here."


Except we do a lot of trade with China and South Korea, hurting them hurts us

/especially if 30 million starving N. Koreans come flooding across either border and seriously damages the economy of either or both countries
 
2012-05-29 01:23:58 PM

mrphil: And it's most certainly NOT about the B-3 bomber.


Now we have the B-4, time shifting bomber.
 
2012-05-29 01:26:02 PM
intelligent comment below SmartestFunniest 2012-05-29 01:11:43 PM


Smeggy Smurf: Not everybody is our concern. Our house isn't in order. They can starve until we have our act together for all many of us care.


So you fark up and split a country then say "It's not our problem!"

That's rich.

Of course you don't care, you're a selfish arrogant fark like many people.


South Korea is our close friend - if they have a famine - then I would say its our problem. We only feed North Koreans because their govt is blackmailing us and threatening our ally. Otherwise, why are the citizens of a crazy paranoid stalinist state on the other side of the globe our concern?
 
2012-05-29 01:26:58 PM

SuperNinjaToad: Joe Peanut: mongbiohazard: Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....


I'm pretty sure Americans would feel right at home in a rural Burger King. ;)

B is for Best. ;-)
Joe Peanut: And a groups of Americans would blend in so well in rural BK.....

Hmmm you do realize that there are plenty of Asian Americans in the US military right? .... or are you just making your usual stereotype where American = white only?


They still wouldn't blend in very well. Outside of the ruling elite, North Koreans are chronically malnourished, and would definitely notice if there was a group of tall, extraordinarily fit and healthy (by their standards) people wandering the countryside, even if they were ethnically Korean.
 
2012-05-29 01:29:57 PM

SirEattonHogg: South Korea is our close friend - if they have a famine - then I would say its our problem. We only feed North Koreans because their govt is blackmailing us and threatening our ally. Otherwise, why are the citizens of a crazy paranoid stalinist state on the other side of the globe our concern?



Your country created the divide between North and South but suddenly it's not your problem? You created the atmosphere allowing a military dictatorship in charge of the North. Be a man and fix your mistakes. Don't act like it wasn't your fault.
 
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