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(Huffington Post)   Former Senator Alan Simpson (R-easonable Republican): "Show me a guy who won't compromise and I'll show you a guy with rock for brains"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 95
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2012-05-28 01:55:54 PM  
he's right, of course. and his norquist quote is hilarious: "For heaven's sake, you have Grover Norquist wandering the earth in his white robes saying that if you raise taxes one penny, he'll defeat you. He can't murder you. He can't burn your house. The only thing he can do to you, as an elected official, is defeat you for reelection. And if that means more to you than your country when we need patriots to come out in a situation when we're in extremity, you shouldn't even be in Congress."
 
2012-05-28 01:58:31 PM  

FlashHarry: he's right, of course. and his norquist quote is hilarious: "For heaven's sake, you have Grover Norquist wandering the earth in his white robes saying that if you raise taxes one penny, he'll defeat you. He can't murder you. He can't burn your house. The only thing he can do to you, as an elected official, is defeat you for reelection. And if that means more to you than your country when we need patriots to come out in a situation when we're in extremity, you shouldn't even be in Congress."


This man has no place in today's GOP.
 
2012-05-28 01:59:28 PM  
I would use a word other than "rock", but I can agree with the thought. And the Senator probably has to keep his language PG for a broader consumption.
 
2012-05-28 02:40:06 PM  
i105.photobucket.com
RINO
 
2012-05-28 03:47:16 PM  

St_Francis_P: This man has no place in today's GOP.


Yeah, he'll be tarred, feathers and replaced by a Tea Partier before the week's end.

Still, good on this guy for thinking for himself, even if the rest of his party won't.
 
2012-05-28 03:47:59 PM  
talkaboutequality.files.wordpress.com

I can has a rock brain?
 
2012-05-28 03:48:11 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: ... feathers

feathered ...

/FTFM.
//My kingdom for an edit button.
 
2012-05-28 03:50:03 PM  
well your party members' heads rival the contents of a quarry
 
2012-05-28 03:50:30 PM  
His praise the east line was hilarious too.
 
2012-05-28 03:50:44 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
/GIS "rock for brains"
 
2012-05-28 03:53:38 PM  
Yes, and the modern Republican party pretty much worships those who have rocks for brains.
 
2012-05-28 03:54:29 PM  
He's a realist, and therefore impure in the eyes of St. Grover.
 
2012-05-28 03:59:12 PM  
Another republican legislator criticizing the extremism of his party ... from the comfortable safety of retirement.
 
2012-05-28 04:01:05 PM  
Astonishing. I didn't care so much for the man when he is in the Senate, because I agreed with him on virtually nothing, but he has found an amazing second wind of statesmanship now that he doesn't have to answer to any voters. He is smart and thoughtful and he cares.

I wish that some people in his party would just listen to him.
 
2012-05-28 04:03:46 PM  
Add another person to the GOP's America's Enemies hit list.
 
2012-05-28 04:09:07 PM  
List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
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Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
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Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
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Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
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Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Bono
Bono Impersonators
Former Republican Senator Alan Simpson
 
2012-05-28 04:09:20 PM  
So it's just gonna be John Bohner and Mitch McConnell pics for an entire thread?

/turtles all the way down...
 
2012-05-28 04:15:06 PM  
He says this as he sucks from the government's teat.
 
2012-05-28 04:19:30 PM  

Doc Daneeka: List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Bono
Bono Impersonators
Former Republican Senator Alan Simpson


you forgot LOLcats
 
2012-05-28 04:21:04 PM  
Saying things like that, this guy is clearly as unAmerican as they come. It's a tragedy he was ever elected and a shame anyone would even think of listening to him now.
 
2012-05-28 04:21:48 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Another republican legislator criticizing the extremism of his party ... from the comfortable safety of retirement.


exactly, still waiting for any sitting R to speak the truth.
 
2012-05-28 04:26:23 PM  
This is what happens when you perceive the other side as evil incarnate.
 
2012-05-28 04:44:13 PM  
Alan Simpson reasonable? That's nearly as big a joke as his congressional GOP successors.

Simpson is an idiot and an asshole. That he fails to dial the crazy to 11 doesn't make him "reasonable."
 
2012-05-28 04:48:25 PM  
That why everyone loved this guy while he was in office. I'm sure there were countless times he was shouting this from the mountain tops. Like the article says "if reelection means more to you than country, you shouldn't be in Congress".
 
2012-05-28 04:57:38 PM  
reddogreport.com

Every single one of the above pledged on a nationwide broadcast that they would NOT accept even a 10:1 ratio of budget cuts to tax increases. And one of these brainiacs now has a shot at the Oval Office.

/actually, Huntsman *might* have dropped out by then, not sure
 
2012-05-28 05:00:10 PM  
Well lets look...

He was one of those early border-fence types.

He demanded Devil's Tower continue to be called that, and not changed to its Native American name.

Bills that made it easier for Debt Collectors to get assets from debtors.

Doesn't sound entirely without politics to me.
 
2012-05-28 05:02:45 PM  
He didn't get re--el-ected
 
2012-05-28 05:05:04 PM  
It's funny that in politics, caving in completely is "compromise", unless you're the one being asked to do it....
 
2012-05-28 05:11:35 PM  
They ALL have rocks for brains. Whether its on wars, the poor, health care or concrete how can you spend more than you take in and think it's a good idea.
 
2012-05-28 05:20:28 PM  
Goodfella: He says this as he sucks from the government's teat.

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2012-05-28 05:31:49 PM  
On Fiscal Policy I agree that compromise is reasonable and necessary.

On social policy Moderates are just as bad as the enemy
 
2012-05-28 05:32:45 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: [reddogreport.com image 600x349]

Every single one of the above pledged on a nationwide broadcast that they would NOT accept even a 10:1 ratio of budget cuts to tax increases. And one of these brainiacs now has a shot at the Oval Office.

/actually, Huntsman *might* have dropped out by then, not sure


RON PAUL doesn't drop out, he falls back to a stronger position.

/also that's the most Ron Paul look I've ever seen on Ron Pauls face.
 
2012-05-28 05:34:53 PM  
ReBorglicans are not interested in Compromise. its all about them, their control/power, and of course, their money.

compromise is just a word.

look at it from the standpoint of a 10 year old brat who doesn't get his way and throws a tantrum.
 
2012-05-28 05:35:29 PM  
I'll put it simply:

Congressmen, Senators, and the President have exactly one oath, affirmation, or pledge, and one only, that they have any business taking that would in any way have anything even remotely to do with how they would perform their elected duties, and that's the Oath or Affirmation of their respective Offices in the U.S. Constitution.

Anyone who has taken any other such oath and does not publicly repudiate it and actually act accordingly should be considered ineligible to hold any such public office, just as much as if not more so than a non-natural born citizen should be considered ineligible to hold the offices of President or Vice President.

Anyone who is in such an office (Congressman, Senator [including V.P.], and President) who actually acts on any other oath, pledge, or affirmation than the one in the Constitution, regardless of what it's about, in the performance of his or her elected duties, has committed treason against the United States and must be impeached, removed from office, and tried for additional penalties for treason.

Anyone who is in such an office who has, by their actions, placed such a non-Constitutional oath or pledge or affirmation ahead of or in higher priority or primacy than his or her Constitutional Oath or Affirmation, has committed high treason and should be impeached, removed from office, and executed by firing squad. Accepting a position of such authority and trust, and then betraying the Constitution, constitutes waving of the Right to Life.

All of this is vastly exacerbated if said pledge was invented by a teenager who, in later life, is never elected to any actual position of Constitutional authority himself, and/or whose implementation places the United States itself in jeopardy (including economic jeopardy, e.g. reduction of credit rating), especially when this man's stated goal is to destroy the Government of the United States (shrink it to be small enough to "drown in a bathtub," and then proceed to do precisely that). Any Congressman or Presidential candidate pledging loyalty to any person (particularly one who is him/herself never elected nor officially appointed to any Federal Government position of authority) over the Constitution, especially one who has stated outright that his goal is the destruction of the Federal Government, has committed a level of treason that goes beyond mere "High Treason."
 
2012-05-28 05:48:40 PM  

Oldiron_79: On social policy Moderates are just as bad as the enemy.


Explain this further so I know how many times I need to bash my head into the wall.
 
2012-05-28 05:49:45 PM  
whoa. a guy who is working for the 0bama administration has negative comments about the GOP!


Where is Rick Romero when there is breaking news like this!
 
2012-05-28 05:52:11 PM  
Fluorescent Testicle: Oldiron_79: On social policy Moderates are just as bad as the enemy.

Explain this further so I know how many times I need to bash my head into the wall.


He's saying that there is no compromise for basic freedoms. Not worded so well but I get where he's coming from.
 
2012-05-28 05:53:10 PM  
He seems bitter after 0bama decided to ignore his work on the Simpson-Bowles commission.

0bama put him in his place. Thanks for your work, now sit down and shut up.
 
2012-05-28 05:58:01 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: whoa. a guy who is working for the 0bama administration has negative comments about the GOP!


Where is Rick Romero when there is breaking news like this!


So, is this cheese running out of your ears?
 
2012-05-28 06:09:26 PM  

Veloram: He's a realist, and therefore impure in the eyes of St. Grover.


That's part of the problem with NeoCons as a movement, is a promotion of subjective reality. Not just as a way of explaining how belief systems can promote a narrative, but now pushed as a means of demanding equal time for bald faced falsehoods that they can then claim have equal footing with facts. It's made far worse, when you have an entire Justification Machine in publishing and in the media to push these beliefs as if they had any basis in reality. This is why Birtherism is still around. This is why Trickle Down Economics is no longer Voodoo Economics, we have an industry whose entire basis is to prop up and defend the indefensible, and make it at least seem plausible. Inconveniently not true, but it could be if you were to just ignore facts, figures, and just believe. Which is part, why NeoCons and the Evangelicals have gotten along so well. They both need to refute those pesky eggheads who have independent peer reviewed articles, and instead, have had to manufacture wholecloth, a chain of institutions and journals along with media and captive authors to generate the illusion of scholarship, full well knowing that a lot of folks don't actually check credentials.

By pushing this very subjective reality, and passing it off as if it were indeed fact, and entirely cutting it free from even the remotest of connection with the original use within their own movement of the term, we have the sh*tbag that is the current crop of manufactured journals and media support for asinine ideas, that just "ask the question."

The intellectual dishonesty was what turned me off NeoConservatives to begin with, a willful misrepresentation of the original material not withstanding, it is essentially looking to a misquoted, often entirely out of context passage in a wayward journal, and looking to promote THAT as a central premise to lie, cheat, and then claim, because they have a "belief" that it has to be given equal time.

It is a whining, puling, gut maggoty sort of cretinous malformation of intellectual process, and trying to paint this disingenuous asshattery as "noble."

And then to double down upon their "belief" and the insistence that it has equal footing with facts, and then to declare intellectual Jihad against those Unbelievers, whilst simultaneous trying to cry Holocaust when someone dares refute them.

This is what we are faced with. Grover Norquist and his ilk are not just poor scholars, not just willfully ignorant economists, distorting facts to accommodate a raiding of the Federal and State piggy banks, but they are whiny little girls who cry "HE HIT BACK!" when you call them on their douchebaggery.

It isn't confined to the Right, but Gottverdammt they made it mainstream...
 
2012-05-28 06:21:48 PM  
He'll be a democrat in the Fox News ticker by the end of the day.
 
2012-05-28 06:22:55 PM  

St_Francis_P: FlashHarry: he's right, of course. and his norquist quote is hilarious: "For heaven's sake, you have Grover Norquist wandering the earth in his white robes saying that if you raise taxes one penny, he'll defeat you. He can't murder you. He can't burn your house. The only thing he can do to you, as an elected official, is defeat you for reelection. And if that means more to you than your country when we need patriots to come out in a situation when we're in extremity, you shouldn't even be in Congress."

This man has no place in today's GOP.


Eh, he was convicted of destroying government property, and admitted to burning federal property as a teen. So I think he earned lifetime membership then. Link
 
2012-05-28 06:24:03 PM  
reddogreport.com

I'm imagining the set of candidates as a bluegrass band.
 
2012-05-28 06:24:32 PM  
Sad that he is "former" senator, not current.
 
2012-05-28 06:26:08 PM  

carpbrain: He is smart and thoughtful and he cares.


He, like all "moderate" republicans, is a spineless pussy. He had the opportunity to influence the party in a way the average person does not, and chose to sit around with his thumb up his ass instead.
 
2012-05-28 06:30:55 PM  
Senator Simpson, I'd like you to meat Speaker John Boehner
 
2012-05-28 06:31:09 PM  
Compromise is neither always good or always bad. Our country and society are based on certain principles, and violating those principles in the name of compromise is not a positive thing.

For example, if you wanted to restrict 1st amendment rights, and I didn't, the solution is not, "well, let's just restrict them a little bit." The solution is to protect the principles laid out in that amendment without compromise.

On the other hand, if the consequences of non-compromise are worse than the compromise, then obviously it's beneficial to compromise. For example: We need to pass a budget or else nothing gets paid for, so unless you really think letting the Federal Government grind to a halt is better (and some do), then obviously some kind of compromise has to be reached.

It's seriously not that complicated, but unfortunately all the partisan absolutism is this country blurs rational thought in favor of reactionary thought.
 
2012-05-28 06:37:13 PM  

The Iconoclast: tenpoundsofcheese: whoa. a guy who is working for the 0bama administration has negative comments about the GOP!


Where is Rick Romero when there is breaking news like this!

So, is this cheese running out of your ears?

That ain't cheese...

 
2012-05-28 06:42:49 PM  

Virtuoso80: For example, if you wanted to restrict 1st amendment rights, and I didn't, the solution is not, "well, let's just restrict them a little bit." The solution is to protect the principles laid out in that amendment without compromise.


What are you talking about? 1st amendment rights are (rightly) restricted in all sorts of ways.

You have freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean that you are allowed to libel, slander, plagiarize, incite a riot, make threats against the President, etc.

You have freedom of religion, but the courts have ruled that doesn't mean you are allowed to incorporate illegal things (drugs, polygamy, etc) into your religious practice, even if that is a sincere part of your belief system.

If you believe that the freedoms and rights laid out in the Constitution should be completely unfettered and uncompromised, you are mistaken.
 
2012-05-28 06:44:05 PM  
"Bipartisanship" is best defined as "Democrats coming around to the Republican point of view."
 
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