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(USA Today)   Andy Rooney's WWII scoop from Nov 7th, 1944: The day Nazi 'robot rockets' almost bombed New York   (usatoday.com) divider line 86
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2012-05-28 09:29:34 AM
Chucko the Rocket Robot unavailable for comment.
 
2012-05-28 09:38:52 AM
Did you ever notice how the Nazis are always rocket bombing places?...
 
2012-05-28 09:42:44 AM
What a robot-Hitler invasion on 'merikuh might look like:
1.bp.blogspot.com

(Lord, that was a STUPID movie! Funny as hell - but stupid.)
 
2012-05-28 09:43:55 AM
USA Today, where they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.
 
2012-05-28 10:11:58 AM

Joe USer: USA Today, where they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.


Except that Rooney, like most educated Americans, was referring to the giant terminal with all the trains in it. (Subscription required- Harper's-- you should get it.)

In November 1944, I left the First Army
near Aachen, Germany, as a Stars and
Stripes reporter and returned to New York
for two months on this reportorial rotation
system. The second day back, before I had
any intention of going to work, I met a
friend on the crosstown shuttle who told
me in an excited subway whisper that the
previous afternoon, election.day, the Germans had launched a projectile against
New York City from the deck of an outlying U-boat. He said that he had actually
seen the missile en route on the radar
screen but that it had either been shot
down by alert coastal patrol planes or had .
fallen short. The V-1 weapon the Germans
used on London t~aveled about two hundred fifty miles per hour and could be
overtaken and knocked down by fighter
planes.
We shuttled between Grand Central
and Times Square twice while I listened to
his story before I finally got off where I got
on...

// Which do you think Rooney is referring to-- the giant train station or the post office?

// Is that really an important enough point to bring to our attention, Cliff Clavin?

// Reading-- how does it work?
 
2012-05-28 10:24:20 AM
Don't you just hate that?
 
2012-05-28 10:33:20 AM
 
2012-05-28 12:18:44 PM
Amid the din, Rooney's buddy, an intelligence officer, shared an astonishing story. The day before, which happened to be Election Day, Army Air Force radar had detected the Germans launching a missile aimed at New York City from a U-boat situated several hundred miles out into the Atlantic. Fighter planes up and down the East Coast had immediately been scrambled.

That guy should have been busted down to recruit and sent to the Pacific Theater with a bottle of sake tied to his ass. Not only did he talk about secret intelligence, he talked about it to a reporter, on a crowded train. What a maroon.
 
2012-05-28 01:03:05 PM
www.top-in-hollywood.com

LOL TOHTENKOPF
 
2012-05-28 01:08:14 PM
Looks like the Nazis really hated the village. Enough to center a nuke around it.
 
2012-05-28 01:09:37 PM
Silly!

The Nazi's came from the dark side of the moon!
 
2012-05-28 01:09:37 PM
For being an insufferable crank in his later years, he sure looked dapper back in the day.
 
2012-05-28 01:10:09 PM

Joe USer: they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.


A station has trains going THROUGH it, while a terminal is just that, the end of all line.

/But it doesn't matter because GST and likely the GSS Post Office were destroyed in The Avengers. Hope they get it fixed. I liked the clock.
 
2012-05-28 01:16:51 PM

notmtwain: Snarky is fine but it's supposed to at least be accurate or relevant. Anybody who had ever been to New York would know that the 42nd Street subway station is called 42nd Street/ Grand Central because it is part of Grand Central Station.

Your comment was neither accurate nor relevant.


You're spot on, except for the fact that there is no "Grand Central Station", at least not for about 100 years.

It's a common mistake. Us New Yorkers use it to poke fun at people in the far outer boroughs, like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.
 
2012-05-28 01:18:39 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: Amid the din, Rooney's buddy, an intelligence officer, shared an astonishing story. The day before, which happened to be Election Day, Army Air Force radar had detected the Germans launching a missile aimed at New York City from a U-boat situated several hundred miles out into the Atlantic. Fighter planes up and down the East Coast had immediately been scrambled.

That guy should have been busted down to recruit and sent to the Pacific Theater with a bottle of sake tied to his ass. Not only did he talk about secret intelligence, he talked about it to a reporter, on a crowded train. What a maroon.


Or he was told to leak it to make the US Navy look better at handling the threat than they actually were.
 
2012-05-28 01:18:57 PM

RibbyK: Joe USer: they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.

A station has trains going THROUGH it, while a terminal is just that, the end of all line.

/But it doesn't matter because GST and likely the GSS Post Office were destroyed in The Avengers. Hope they get it fixed. I liked the clock.


I've got good and bad news. It's fixed up just like it was, but there's an Apple store in it now.
 
2012-05-28 01:19:01 PM
seems pretty obvious to me. There are a lot of Jewish people in New York.
 
2012-05-28 01:20:15 PM

Joe USer:
It's a common mistake. Us New Yorkers use it to poke fun at people in the far outer boroughs, like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.


Today I learned that New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts are boroughs of NYC.
 
2012-05-28 01:22:33 PM
FTA: By then Rooney, all of 25, was a grizzled journalist; he knew how to handle a hot tip.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-28 01:27:30 PM
For a long time, we were scared the Soviets would detonate a nuclear device in a major harbor or just outside of it so as to create an enormous tsunami.
 
2012-05-28 01:28:44 PM
Benevolent Misanthrope

That guy should have been busted down to recruit and sent to the Pacific Theater with a bottle of sake tied to his ass.

That's the funniest thing I've read all day.
 
2012-05-28 01:30:47 PM

ds_4815: FTA: By then Rooney, all of 25, was a grizzled journalist; he knew how to handle a hot tip.

[i.imgur.com image 171x320]


They grew up fast in those days, seriously.
 
2012-05-28 01:34:13 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Joe USer:
It's a common mistake. Us New Yorkers use it to poke fun at people in the far outer boroughs, like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.

Today I learned that New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts are boroughs of NYC.


The more you know. ===★

/Everything outside of the 5 boroughs are "outer boroughs"
 
2012-05-28 01:36:18 PM
"I have heard from my friends that they launched the first projectile before they were caught but they don't know what happened to it," he told Rooney, speculating that the attacking U-boats had been "immobilized" by radio beams that somehow disrupted their electric motors. "They (the U-boat crews) couldn't move and they were all captured alive," he said.

I found this tidbit interesting.
 
2012-05-28 01:40:44 PM

Shadow Blasko: Silly!

The Nazi's came from the dark side of the moon!


The Nazi's what?

Really, the 4th grade lessons about the apostrophe are not that hard to learn.
 
2012-05-28 01:41:17 PM

basemetal: "I have heard from my friends that they launched the first projectile before they were caught but they don't know what happened to it," he told Rooney, speculating that the attacking U-boats had been "immobilized" by radio beams that somehow disrupted their electric motors. "They (the U-boat crews) couldn't move and they were all captured alive," he said.

I found this tidbit interesting.


Reverse-engineered alien tech.
 
2012-05-28 01:43:05 PM

Lipspinach: basemetal: "I have heard from my friends that they launched the first projectile before they were caught but they don't know what happened to it," he told Rooney, speculating that the attacking U-boats had been "immobilized" by radio beams that somehow disrupted their electric motors. "They (the U-boat crews) couldn't move and they were all captured alive," he said.

I found this tidbit interesting.

Reverse-engineered alien tech.


EXACTLY!
 
2012-05-28 01:44:47 PM
So you're saying it was aliens?
 
2012-05-28 01:48:58 PM

Makh: Did you ever notice how the Nazis are always rocket bombing places?...


And what's up with airline food?
 
2012-05-28 01:50:11 PM

basemetal: Lipspinach: basemetal: "I have heard from my friends that they launched the first projectile before they were caught but they don't know what happened to it," he told Rooney, speculating that the attacking U-boats had been "immobilized" by radio beams that somehow disrupted their electric motors. "They (the U-boat crews) couldn't move and they were all captured alive," he said.

I found this tidbit interesting.

Reverse-engineered alien tech.

EXACTLY!


It may not even had to have been reverse-engineered
 
2012-05-28 01:59:33 PM

notmtwain: Joe USer: USA Today, where they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.

Except that Rooney, like most educated Americans, was referring to the giant terminal with all the trains in it. (Subscription required- Harper's-- you should get it.)

In November 1944, I left the First Army
near Aachen, Germany, as a Stars and
Stripes reporter and returned to New York
for two months on this reportorial rotation
system. The second day back, before I had
any intention of going to work, I met a
friend on the crosstown shuttle who told
me in an excited subway whisper that the
previous afternoon, election.day, the Germans had launched a projectile against
New York City from the deck of an outlying U-boat. He said that he had actually
seen the missile en route on the radar
screen but that it had either been shot
down by alert coastal patrol planes or had .
fallen short. The V-1 weapon the Germans
used on London t~aveled about two hundred fifty miles per hour and could be
overtaken and knocked down by fighter
planes.
We shuttled between Grand Central
and Times Square twice while I listened to
his story before I finally got off where I got
on...

// Which do you think Rooney is referring to-- the giant train station or the post office?

// Is that really an important enough point to bring to our attention, Cliff Clavin?

// Reading-- how does it work?


Nein, nein, nein! Ve here call the station/terminal Grand Central. Even ze subvay shtop is Grand Central. Grand Central Station is indeed a posht office und ze name of a radio show many jahren ago.
 
2012-05-28 02:02:36 PM

Makh: Did you ever notice how the Nazis are always rocket bombing places?...


I think I'm going to use that as my newest random comment from now on.
 
2012-05-28 02:06:27 PM

Joe USer: notmtwain: Snarky is fine but it's supposed to at least be accurate or relevant. Anybody who had ever been to New York would know that the 42nd Street subway station is called 42nd Street/ Grand Central because it is part of Grand Central Station.

Your comment was neither accurate nor relevant.

You're spot on, except for the fact that there is no "Grand Central Station", at least not for about 100 years.

It's a common mistake. Us New Yorkers use it to poke fun at people in the far outer boroughs, like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.


Yup - as the building clearly states on the façade.
 
2012-05-28 02:12:49 PM
i.imgur.com

Well I wish I lived in New York, but I don't, but I don't even see post office listed in here.
 
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2012-05-28 02:18:57 PM

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 640x240]

Well I wish I lived in New York, but I don't, but I don't even see post office listed in here.


Your Momma?????
 
2012-05-28 02:21:58 PM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Joe USer:
It's a common mistake. Us New Yorkers use it to poke fun at people in the far outer boroughs, like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.

Today I learned that New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts are boroughs of NYC.


I just had my opinion that many New Yorkers are egocentric idiots validated.
 
2012-05-28 02:30:01 PM
there is enough bullshiat in that article to fertilize my yard for years. The ramp used to launch a V-1 would never fit on a U-boat. The V-1 weighed 4700 pounds - how did they get it out of the sub to mount it? How did they get it onto the launch ramp? The V-1 was 27.3 ft long, 17.6 ft wide and 4 ft 8 in tall. It had a range of 160 miles. Put all of that together and it was impossible As for the V-2 - forgetaboutit.

Besides, the German submarines were no longer in the western Atlantic by that time.
 
2012-05-28 02:31:32 PM

Joe USer: USA Today, where they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.


I think you mean Pennsylvania Terminal which is now the main post office - always was since it opened. Grand Central Terminal/Station is a train station and subway stop.
 
2012-05-28 02:37:28 PM
I remember in the early '40s, back there when I was a kid working on the city desk
in the Detroit Free Press. It was Sunday, 4 o' clock in the morning, somebody
phoned in a story, and I had no way to check it out. It was either print the biggest
story of the century and beat every paper in the city by hours or kill it. I was a
gutsy kid so I decided to print it. Do you want to know what that story was? I
will tell you what that story was. The Japanese had just bombed... San Diego. So
I was wrong. It takes guts to be wrong, doesn't it?
 
2012-05-28 02:38:53 PM

Nrokreffefp: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Joe USer:
It's a common mistake. Us New Yorkers use it to poke fun at people in the far outer boroughs, like New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts.

Today I learned that New Jersey, Connecticut and Massachusetts are boroughs of NYC.

I just had my opinion that many New Yorkers are egocentric idiots validated.


Jealousy can be all consuming, fortunately, you can take the train up to NY in just a few hours and pretend you live here.
 
2012-05-28 02:40:06 PM

chuckufarlie: there is enough bullshiat in that article to fertilize my yard for years. The ramp used to launch a V-1 would never fit on a U-boat. The V-1 weighed 4700 pounds - how did they get it out of the sub to mount it? How did they get it onto the launch ramp? The V-1 was 27.3 ft long, 17.6 ft wide and 4 ft 8 in tall. It had a range of 160 miles. Put all of that together and it was impossible As for the V-2 - forgetaboutit.

Besides, the German submarines were no longer in the western Atlantic by that time.


I'm not so sure...
 
2012-05-28 02:41:10 PM

chuckufarlie: there is enough bullshiat in that article to fertilize my yard for years. The ramp used to launch a V-1 would never fit on a U-boat. The V-1 weighed 4700 pounds - how did they get it out of the sub to mount it? How did they get it onto the launch ramp? The V-1 was 27.3 ft long, 17.6 ft wide and 4 ft 8 in tall. It had a range of 160 miles. Put all of that together and it was impossible As for the V-2 - forgetaboutit.

Besides, the German submarines were no longer in the western Atlantic by that time.


Hmm. nobody said it was a V-1 or a V-2. They said it was a "missile" and that "It was not outside the realm of possibility that German scientists had armed a submarine with a variation of a V-1 buzz-bomb or a V-2 rocket. "

I think you should look at The U-Boat Rocket Program
An Online Technical Report


The sequence of photos below show an actual launch from U-511www.collectrussia.comwww.collectrussia.comwww.collectrussia.com
 
2012-05-28 02:41:30 PM

Joe USer: USA Today, where they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.


6/10
you got a few bites
 
2012-05-28 02:42:13 PM

moto-geek: I'm not so sure.


The V-1 was essentially a cruise missile robot plane 27 feet long, with a wingspan of 18 feet, and about 5 feet tall.

At least that's the official story.

In reality, it was a Nazi flying saucer.
 
2012-05-28 02:44:22 PM

gilbertfroy: Joe USer: USA Today, where they still can't figure out that Grand Central Station is the name of the post office, not the giant terminal with all the trains in it.

I think you mean Pennsylvania Terminal which is now the main post office - always was since it opened. Grand Central Terminal/Station is a train station and subway stop.


The USPS has a Grand Central office, however, since the USPS office location (not the building, just the location) predates the terminal opening in 1913, it frequently used the term "Grand Central Station".

/The more you ★=== METEOR STORM!
 
2012-05-28 02:46:11 PM
Yes... but are they 'zombie robot rockets'?
 
2012-05-28 02:47:56 PM

whidbey:
6/10
you got a few bites


Darn, I was really going for 8.
 
2012-05-28 02:48:33 PM
ooooohhhh, you mean with the wings.

I get it.
 
2012-05-28 02:54:16 PM
i48.tinypic.com

Raketen Rächer!
 
2012-05-28 02:54:39 PM
The modular cannon V3 always amazed me. Unfortunately while it disassembled into small pieces when you assembled it you had a very long barrel that needed a lot of support.
 
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