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(Gawker)   For this Memorial Day, 10 classic films to remind you that war is hell   (gawker.com ) divider line
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2012-05-28 11:32:29 PM  

Bongo Blue: bmfderek: For a foreign perspective, seek out and watch, "Stalingrad." It's German, and is probably the most "war is Hell" movie I've ever seen.

was going to bring Stalingrad up, but I always felt it could've been made a little better.
Coming from the director of Das Boot.


No, my friend. Petersen directed "Das Boot," but "Stalingrad" was directed by a Vilsmaier(?) fellow.
I'll add that "MASH" and "Kelly's Heroes" are both in my top five favorite movies, but I don't really think of them as "war" movies.
 
2012-05-28 11:56:47 PM  
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2012-05-29 12:39:20 AM  
The movie of The Thin Red Line is excellent the book amazing. Yeah people want a bunch of explosions and killing and the usual bunch of characters doing the usual bunch of things for the usual outcomes. The movie went around convention to bring something bigger about the conflict and the people involved. It's bound the divide people

between the Michael Bay crowd and the discerning filmgoer
 
2012-05-29 02:06:26 AM  
Ivan's Childhood
The Tin Drum
 
2012-05-29 03:30:21 AM  
Yeah well, everyone's a critic and everyone has their own "Top Whatever" list.

I'm no different....

My top dozen War pics are in alphabetical order....


All Quiet on the Western Front. (The "original" 1930 version restored and digitally remastered by the Library of Congress film unit)

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Das Boot. (The "Directors Cut" 1997, not the disappointing dubbed, shortened original English language cinema/video release)

Life and death on a U-Boat.

If you ever get the opportunity to see this flick in 70mm on a BIG cinema screen with LOUD surround sound you should take it.

Probably the best submarine movie ever made, anywhere, anytime. :note this is not a flick for claustrophobes!

..............

Dr. Strangelove.

Just because it gave those of us who grew up during the Cold War a rare opportunity to giggle at the ever present prospect of horrible obliteration.

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Enemy At the Gates.

Somewhat grim but interesting UK production centered on the purported exploits of Vasily Zaitsev and other snipers during the WW2 siege of Stalingrad.

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Hell to Eternity.

Mostly true story centering around the exploits of Marine PFC Guy Gabaldon a.k.a. "The Pied Piper of Saipan".

Not to be confused with "From Here to Eternity".

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Lord of War.

Just because it's unique and based on real persons and relatively recent actual events.

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Saving Private Ryan. (What can be said that hasn't already?)

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Savior.

Grim depiction of the civil war in the former Yugoslavian states

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Shot through the heart, a.k.a. The Anti-Sniper. (Set before and during the siege of Sarajevo, made entirely in the English language)

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The Longest Day. (A true classic)

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TORA! TORA! TORA!

THE Pearl Harbor flick.

Reasonable historical accuracy, obvious huge budget multi-national production with some of the bravest/craziest stuntmen ever.

..............

Twelve O'clock High.

Life and death in one of the early England based B-17 daylight bombing groups when life expectancy of aircrew was short.

Memorable quote: "Forget about going home. Consider yourselves already dead. Once you accept that idea, it won't be so tough...." Spoken in Gregory Peck's most earnest voice.

..............


Then... There's a whole bunch of others too numerous to mention in a short list that deserve at least an honorable mention.


Note: Many war flicks that might be watchable on late night cable/satellite if you can't sleep but contain more than a modicum of blatantly obvious propaganda are not considered worthy of a mention in any "top" list, in my opinion.
 
2012-05-29 06:06:44 AM  

trotsky: Das Boot: Mentioned numerous times

Stalingrad: LIke a Tarantino flick, really good but also really depressing.

Kelly's Heroes: Gah, one of the best war movies

Where Eagles Dare: Again, one of the best

The Beast: Soviets in Afghanistan, American, filmed in Israel with a Baldwin brother. Still just damn fine and illustrates the futility of Afghanistan.

The Winter War: The Finns against incredible odds in 1940

Dr. Strangelove: The futility of the Cold War in one hilarious swoop. Slim Picken's other finest movie.

Dirty Dozen: Ernest Borgnine. End of story.


I've seen all but "The Winter War" and "The Beast". When was "The Beast" made? I looked it up on IMDb and there's like 30 entries...
 
2012-05-29 07:48:07 AM  
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Only one you need. When the guy finds out his buddy was just killed.
 
2012-05-29 09:20:45 AM  
Thin Red Line is literally the worst movie I have ever seen. It is the absolute bottom of the list. It could have been 10 minutes long or 5 days long and it would have been the exact same movie.
 
2012-05-29 09:32:27 AM  

nigeman: The movie of The Thin Red Line is excellent the book amazing. Yeah people want a bunch of explosions and killing and the usual bunch of characters doing the usual bunch of things for the usual outcomes. The movie went around convention to bring something bigger about the conflict and the people involved. It's bound the divide people

between the Michael Bay crowd and the discerning filmgoer


I think its intellectually dishonest to categorize those who don't like The Thin Red Line as Michael Bay-esque car chase explosion fans.

I find The Thin Red Line to be a shallow and self-indulgent demonstration of purple prose. In common terms, its boring crap.

And not for the lack of explosions, either.

I respect Malick and I'm a huge fan of Badlands, but I think the opposite of your final assertion is true: that The Thin Red Line appeals to the pseudo-intellectual filmgoer who mistake panning shots of grass, purposeful plodding and affected voiceover narrations for high art.

The fact that you see the film world in terms of Malick vs Bay would bolster this. There are many, many styles of film and filmmakers, only a small percentage of which fall within the Thin Red Line/Transformers spectrum.
 
2012-05-29 10:30:36 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I find The Thin Red Line to be a shallow and self-indulgent demonstration of purple prose. In common terms, its boring crap.


The Thin Red Line is Oscar Bait pure and simple. I mean it was super long, with a cast of really popular actors, long thoughtful voiceovers about the horrors of war and even longer shots of nature showing something about how even within the horror there is beauty.
 
2012-05-29 10:50:14 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:
I respect Malick and I'm a huge fan of Badlands, but I think the opposite of your final assertion is true: that The Thin Red Line appeals to the pseudo-intellectual filmgoer who mistake panning shots of grass, purposeful plodding and affected voiceover narrations for high art..


I was about to say that the people defending the Thin Red Line probably consider themselves profound intellectuals for sticking up for something that so obviously panders to the Oscar voters, but said it better than I would have.
 
2012-05-29 11:00:12 AM  

mechgreg: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I find The Thin Red Line to be a shallow and self-indulgent demonstration of purple prose. In common terms, its boring crap.

The Thin Red Line is Oscar Bait pure and simple. I mean it was super long, with a cast of really popular actors, long thoughtful voiceovers about the horrors of war and even longer shots of nature showing something about how even within the horror there is beauty.


Yeppers. I sat through Thin Red Line twice - once to see what all the critical praise was about, and the second time to figure out what I had missed. Finally I just gave up on it.

War movies I would recommend:

1. Paths of Glory - the final shot, as Dax realizes that he's caught in a terrible dilemma is even more awful than the execution of a comatose man. Kirk Douglas never gave a finer performance. And Adolphe Menjou puts a smiling face on the leaders who sent millions to their needless deaths.

2. Gallipoli - You want a film that moves relentlessly to a terrible conclusion? When I left the theater I discovered my hands were sore from gripping the armrests.

3. Lawrence of Arabia - TE Lawrence moves reluctantly into the role of hero and leader and is still ground up and spat out like any other poor bastard.

4. Flags of Our Fathers - After the hell of Iwo Jima, the survivors of the flag-raising find themselves in a surreal world with no tools to cope. The sense of helplessness at the various ceremonies is worse than the battlefield.

5. Saving Private Ryan - In many ways it's a conventional war movie, but its great glory is the presentation of the fact that most casualties are not wounded or killed while engaged in some glorious task, but rather they are shot down like dogs. It's a brutal truth most movies have shirked.
 
2012-05-29 12:19:47 PM  
Good Morning Vietnam and Full Metal Jacket
 
2012-05-29 12:31:25 PM  
Cross of Iron with James Coburn, Maximillian Schell, James Mason, David Warner. Great combat, great characters and great acting. East Front action directed by Sam Peckinpah with authentic war equipment and tanks.

"Let me take you to where the Iron Crosses grow."

It didn't make a lot of money, it was overshadowed by a little film released that year called Star Wars.
 
2012-05-29 03:18:39 PM  
Dead Presidents?
 
2012-05-29 06:54:04 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x325]

Only one you need. When the guy finds out his buddy was just killed.


If you liked that one you should check out "Armadillo". Simllar, though not quite as compelling for me. Same premise but it follows Dutch troops in Afghanistan.
 
2012-05-29 07:03:04 PM  
Some of my favorite war movies:

Black Hawk Down
Full Metal Jacket
Band of Brothers (I know it's not a movie, but still probably the best WWII narrative I've ever seen)
Saving Private Ryan
We Were Soldiers
Zulu

I would also like to add that the music video for "One" by Metallica manages to convey a sense of "War Is Hell" more effectively than anything I've ever seen.
 
2012-05-29 07:25:51 PM  

BigHornBall: Dead Presidents?


To see the debilitating results of PTHD*?

*Post Traumatic Heist Disorder
 
2012-05-29 07:34:58 PM  

BillCo: List is a total failure without "To Hell and Back". What Audie Murphy did to win the Medal of Honor was actually toned down for the movie because they were afraid it would seem too unbelievable.


I read the book To Hell and Back a few years ago. It was excellent; very inspiring and moving. Haven't seen the movie--yet.
 
2012-05-30 12:52:06 AM  

mantidor: is Grave of The Fireflies available on Netflix? if so, well, more movies from the other side. Although I don't know if it qualifies as an actual war movie, the war itself is treated as if it was a natural disaster, I don't know, but it is worth mentioning.


only if you want to cry and be sad for a week.
 
2012-05-31 02:03:13 PM  
 
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