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(Gawker)   For this Memorial Day, 10 classic films to remind you that war is hell   (gawker.com) divider line 121
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2012-05-28 02:04:36 PM
Stalag 17
 
2012-05-28 02:22:31 PM

coco ebert: Paths of Glory


this
and The Best Years of Our Lives
 
2012-05-28 02:23:41 PM
Obligatory

upload.wikimedia.org

I wouldn't call it so much an "anti-war" film, as a "war-sceptic" film.
 
2012-05-28 02:25:38 PM
Jacob's Ladder
 
2012-05-28 02:59:34 PM
Missing:

www.varesesarabande.com
 
2012-05-28 03:00:08 PM

craigdamage: THIN RED LINE is just about the most visually poetic film ever made about war. (see also RAN)


I did like it, but it left something to be desired. It wasn't the lack of "action", I thought it just relied too heavily on meandering voice-overs and there wasn't enough dialogue between a lot of the characters. Watching something for three hours that is chock full of the deepest personal thoughts and feelings of individual characters but little relation to one another on-screen just felt emotionally distant.
 
2012-05-28 03:01:30 PM
Saving Private Ryan didn't make the list? WTH?!?!

And The Thin Red Line sucked balls.
 
2012-05-28 03:03:02 PM

Mr. Chainsaw: wippit: Missing:



Memphis Belle is highly underrated. I also see no one's mentioned Twelve O'Clock High yet.


I actually just watched Twelve O'Clock High the other day, after not having seen it in years. Amazing movie.

And I'm a huge WWII history/movie buff. Realizing of course that movie and history don't necessarily go hand in hand, even if they are "based on true events". I also have the reconstructed version of The Big Red One, with the restored footage, and it does make the movie much better.

An obscure, great if you can find it flick, is a little British film San Demitrio London. Another based on true event story, about the civilian merchant ships that brought supplies to GB during the war. Tanker was carrying gasoline from Texas, was shelled by a German ship. The surviving crew abandoned ship because of fire, got separated from the escort convoy, bobbed around on lifeboats for a few days in the north Atlantic, then reboarded the ship when they realized it wasn't sinking. Put out the deck fires, repaired what they could, navigated by stars (since the bridge was disabled), and made it into Ireland, with most of the cargo intact. Story should be far more well known. Made in England, in 1943, which was a feat in itself.
 
2012-05-28 03:04:20 PM

ranak: Saving Private Ryan didn't make the list? WTH?!?!


It's a "best of..." list generated off what's currently available for streaming on Netflix. Considering how Netflix has sucked for the last year and a half (at least), I'm surprised there are even 10 "war films" of any kind available.
 
2012-05-28 03:22:43 PM
There's a really great Russian film about the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80's... I think its called 9th Brigade... It's on Netflix instant. Really compelling.
 
2012-05-28 03:29:01 PM
Die Bruecke was pretty rough.
 
2012-05-28 03:36:21 PM

craigdamage: Please explain to me in detail how exactly you came to the conclusion that A BRIDGE TOO FAR is an "anti-war movie" not trolling here...I just don't understand.


It's absolutely anti-war. It fails to show the Allies as victors and makes a serious point of showing how much they suffered. It portrays the top brass as egotistical fools who saw war as more of a contest than a struggle for life and death. And in the final scenes, when one of Montgomery's generals relays the message that they are considering the fiasco, they drive home the point.

It just takes a different approach in that it doesn't try to portray the soldiers as bad guys doing horrible things. Instead it shows the futility and real cost of war, and the detachment of the leadership from the reality.
 
2012-05-28 03:43:03 PM

wiwille: Gettysburg. Yes I'm serious.


Memorial Day originated after the American Civil War to commemorate the Union soldiers who died in the Civil War. It's entirely appropriate.
 
2012-05-28 03:44:43 PM
For anyone who likes Das Boot. I would recommend downloading the mini-series version. It's around 5 hours long but quite worth watching.
 
2012-05-28 04:14:03 PM
I would add, and I apologize for any repeats:

Foreign Correspondent
One of Our Aircraft is Missing
The Dam Busters
Barefoot Gen
Grave of the Fireflies (keep the tissues handy)
The Big Parade (Silent)
Wings(Silent, first Oscar winner for best picture)
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Steel Helmet
The Vaulting Horse
Paths of Glory
Passchendaele
The Boy in the Striped Pajamas
While You Were Gone
Best Years of Our Lives
 
2012-05-28 04:24:24 PM

craigdamage: Please explain to me in detail how exactly you came to the conclusion that A BRIDGE TOO FAR is an "anti-war movie" not trolling here...I just don't understand.


Are you kidding me? Well, there's three scenes that stick out in my head:

1) The scene where the British Leftenant is relieved of duty to go spend some time in basically a mental ward because he was overly worried about the potential casualty rate of the upcoming mission. His commanding officer basically just tells him in not so many words that regardless of the casualties, it will all turn out all right in the end. Just keep a stiff upper lip, old chap.

2) The scene where the Polish commander played by Gene Hackman asks for a letter from the commanding British officer to absolve him of any wrongdoing if the mission goes terribly wrong. The British commanding officer asks him if he'd really like such a letter, and Gene Hackman says, "No. If the mission goes terribly wrong, what good will such a letter do anyway?"

3) The scene where the British commando runs out into the middle of the sniper killing field to retrieve a air-dropped supplies package only to be gunned down at the last second, and the package spills open as he falls, revealing that the package contained a bunch of useless berets.

The ending scene in the makeshift hospital when all of the wounded soldiers are singing is particularly poignant as well.

And of course, the speech at the end of all the commanders sitting around talking about the things that doomed the mission. One of the commanders conclude that it was "just a bridge too far."

The whole movie, to me, was a retort against the so-called "glory of the battlefield." In that movie, there was no glory. There was only dead soldiers.
 
2012-05-28 04:28:12 PM

craigdamage: Terrence Malick films are NOT for people with short attention spans. THIN RED LINE is just about the most visually poetic film ever made about war. (see also RAN)


"Visually poetic." Yeah, some poems can be boring as shiat, so I'll give you that.

But I was much younger when I first saw it. Perhaps I should give it another go in my old age.
 
2012-05-28 04:32:17 PM

Reaperman: From the other side, Das Boot.


I came here to post this. And I'm just going to take it on faith that someone else posted The Dirty Dozen. And Biloxi Blues, because it shows that you don't have to charge a fixed position and get a Medal of Honor to have your life screwed up by war.
 
2012-05-28 04:34:35 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

'hay guyz whats goin on in this thread?
 
2012-05-28 04:36:29 PM
Battle of Britain
Sink the Bismark
Reach for the sky
I also saw 'Brotherhood' it's absolutely fantastic and incredibly tragic
 
2012-05-28 04:40:20 PM
 
2012-05-28 04:46:34 PM
The Thin Red Line? Blech. Boring, predictable, and overindulgent.

Lots of great recommendations on this list, I'll throw in a good word for Black Hawk Down.
 
2012-05-28 04:48:08 PM
No pearl harbor?
 
2012-05-28 04:58:24 PM

9beers: Reaperman: From the other side, Das Boot.

If we're talking about movies showing the other side, Letters from Iwo Jima needs to be at or near the top of the list.


Jesus Christ, yes. Watanabe is just great.
 
2012-05-28 05:01:58 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: There's a really great Russian film about the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80's... I think its called 9th Brigade... It's on Netflix instant. Really compelling.


The 9th Company. Looks pretty damn interesting, thanks!
 
2012-05-28 05:05:30 PM
i132.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-28 05:05:43 PM
Flappyhead, good choice. If you take out the French Plantation scene (easy to do on DVD), the Redux version is incredible. Plus it has one of my favorite lines in a movie ever:

Kurtz: Are you an assassin?
Willard: I'm a soldier.
Kurtz: You're neither. You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill.
 
2012-05-28 05:50:36 PM

9beers: The Thin Red Line is a great movie.


Gah, I have to agree with 9beers!

i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-28 06:34:11 PM
It's hard to top the Russian film "Come and See" in terms of showing war's brutality.
 
2012-05-28 06:39:58 PM

Lando Lincoln: A Bridge Too Far.


My closing argument. I can stop watching TV!
 
2012-05-28 06:47:29 PM

bmfderek: For a foreign perspective, seek out and watch, "Stalingrad." It's German, and is probably the most "war is Hell" movie I've ever seen.


came to say this.

Also the writer didn't allow his name on the movie because he thought the movie was too sanitized
 
2012-05-28 06:55:52 PM
Thanks

Lando Lincoln


and

Shark Trager
.

...I would have also mentioned the tragic scene with the Dutch father whose son is killed. I still don't see this as "anti-war" though. Just really an existential
showing of the brutal cost of war...again,like the epic film RAN.

LANDO,have you seen other Malick films?
Yes. They are long and somewhat tedious but I really love the visuals of his movies.
 
2012-05-28 07:09:08 PM
i280.photobucket.com

Mesmerizing
 
2012-05-28 07:19:07 PM
I stopped reading the list as soon as I saw the first entry was The Thin Red Line. God that movie sucked balls. I was expecting a World War II action war movie, and instead I got a candy-ass poetry reading.
 
2012-05-28 07:19:37 PM
Every year at this time, I try to catch Taking Chance on HBO. It's a poignant demonstration of duty.
 
2012-05-28 07:35:05 PM

darkjezter: I stopped reading the list as soon as I saw the first entry was The Thin Red Line. God that movie sucked balls. I was expecting a World War II action war movie, and instead I got a candy-ass poetry reading.


Michael Bay loves you.
 
2012-05-28 07:45:43 PM

vrax: darkjezter: I stopped reading the list as soon as I saw the first entry was The Thin Red Line. God that movie sucked balls. I was expecting a World War II action war movie, and instead I got a candy-ass poetry reading.

Michael Bay loves you.


Boring, pretentious faux-artistry may work for you, but not me.
 
2012-05-28 07:54:11 PM
www.moviegoods.com
pixhost.me
 
2012-05-28 08:38:40 PM

darkjezter: vrax: darkjezter: I stopped reading the list as soon as I saw the first entry was The Thin Red Line. God that movie sucked balls. I was expecting a World War II action war movie, and instead I got a candy-ass poetry reading.

Michael Bay loves you.

Boring, pretentious faux-artistry may work for you, but not me.


C'mon! You already showed your hand. You were hoping for non-stop pew-pew and 'splosions. Maybe some lasers and a few Autobot jeeps and tanks thrown in here and there. Instead, they bothered to have some of that story makin' dialog and character development shiat. What a bummer!
 
2012-05-28 08:58:34 PM
Since most of the movies have been covered, I'll just throw in I watch Band of Brothers and Generation Kill around Memorial Day. Loved both of them but I never get tired of watching BOB. Actually just got finished watching the "Points" episode.

/ farking hated The Thin Red Line
 
2012-05-28 09:51:14 PM
Mash the Movie.

My pops was 82 airborne with over 100 jumps in korea, and says the only way they kept it real was by by being wiseacres.
 
2012-05-28 10:01:47 PM
Not a classic, but "No Man's Land" is worth watching, it's a head shaker.
 
2012-05-28 10:02:16 PM
Not even one mention?

www.jonathanrosenbaum.com

Missing:

www.kusiakmusic.com

Eleven lessons from the life of Robert S. McNamara
 
2012-05-28 10:09:32 PM

Hots_Kebabs: When Trumpets Fade


Great movie. I recomend it all the time.
From Korea: brotherhood of war.
 
2012-05-28 10:14:05 PM

bmfderek: For a foreign perspective, seek out and watch, "Stalingrad." It's German, and is probably the most "war is Hell" movie I've ever seen.


was going to bring Stalingrad up, but I always felt it could've been made a little better.
Coming from the director of Das Boot.
 
2012-05-28 10:27:24 PM

Saturn5:


I remember that one!
 
2012-05-28 10:30:02 PM
oh!
 
2012-05-28 10:32:56 PM

coco ebert: Paths of Glory


I see I'm not needed here.

/I cry like a little girl when Christiane Kubrick starts singing.
 
2012-05-28 10:57:02 PM
Das Boot: Mentioned numerous times

Stalingrad: LIke a Tarantino flick, really good but also really depressing.

Kelly's Heroes: Gah, one of the best war movies

Where Eagles Dare: Again, one of the best

The Beast: Soviets in Afghanistan, American, filmed in Israel with a Baldwin brother. Still just damn fine and illustrates the futility of Afghanistan.

The Winter War: The Finns against incredible odds in 1940

Dr. Strangelove: The futility of the Cold War in one hilarious swoop. Slim Picken's other finest movie.

Dirty Dozen: Ernest Borgnine. End of story.
 
2012-05-28 11:15:52 PM

JosephFinn: Saberus Terras: Die Brücke - Told from the perspective of German teens fresh out of training. Yes, they're Nazis. But it's a good movie.

Sadly not on Netflix at all (and from the same director, Bernhard Wicki, as The Longest Day). Looks like the DVD is completely out of print.


You can find it here:
http://www.ihffilm.com/world-cinema-on-dvd-german-feature-films---doc u mentaries-dvds-post-ww2-german-films-dvds.html
 
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