I have nothing against NYC or those of you who call it home, but please know that people are not impressed by the mere fact that you live there. Residents of New York seem to need to tell you that as quickly as possible when you meet them.

megalynn44: FTA:

The notice adds, "Buildings are not tourist attractions: People live there, and sitting on the steps and taking pictures is as invasive, rude and inappropriate as a group of strangers sitting on the steps of your home and taking pictures of it and you."

If you don't want to be constantly surrounded by lots of people including right outside your home then MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T LIVE IN farkING NEW YORK CITY!!! I'm sorry you're spending an exorbitant amount of money to live in the "greatest city ever" but this is what you signed up for.

Dumbass

Take a visit to New Orleans during Mardi Gras season and then complain about people sitting on the steps of your home and taking pictures... and vomiting all over the place and flashing their 300lb Wisconsin breasts.

mccallcl: IIt's a status symbol. It gets to you sometimes but I just tell myself "these people are coming from around the world to take pictures of where I already am!" and the ego boost gets me through the rage.

You choose to live in places that have, as a necessary part of their make up, components that will cause you to be upset and uncomfortable. You do this to project some sort of "status" to impress the very people that upset you, and who don't care about you or your life to begin with. And that makes you feel good about yourself. Wow. Sad life, bro. No. Seriously. That's legitimately sad.

mccallcl: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: mccallcl: IIt's a status symbol. It gets to you sometimes but I just tell myself "these people are coming from around the world to take pictures of where I already am!" and the ego boost gets me through the rage.

You choose to live in places that have, as a necessary part of their make up, components that will cause you to be upset and uncomfortable. You do this to project some sort of "status" to impress the very people that upset you, and who don't care about you or your life to begin with. And that makes you feel good about yourself. Wow. Sad life, bro. No. Seriously. That's legitimately sad.

Sorry you're so bummed out all the time, hope trolling helps with the pain.

It's not trolling. I really do feel bad for you. I'm kind of hoping that a view from an "outside" perspective might give you a bit of a jolt and maybe prompt some self examination. I bet you would be a lot happier if you thought more about what you truly want out of life rather than basing your sense of self worth on the opinions of strangers.

I grew up in a nice area of Seattle, and my parents have a distinctive pink house. We have often had people take pictures of it, especially when the pink cherry trees are in bloom, but once we even looked outside to see some sort of art class sketching it. This person should count their blessings that they are lucky enough to live a place that is historically relevant. right now I live on an army post adjacent to a civil war battle field and I love being immersed in the history.

/buildings aren't tourist attractions!? Rofl.

I lived next door to Yellowstone Park for many years, and I still live in a tourist town. You get used to it. And at the height of the season, you can get stoned, go downtown and sit on a bench and just watch them all. "Wow...look at those people. And those. What are they wearing? Damn, is that how city people dress? Holy fark, look at all that cheap touristy crap they just bought!"

Ikam: I'd rather live around them and their ironic facial hair

I don't believe their facial hair is ironic so much as being patchy/stringy due to
a lack of testosterone.

Coco LaFemme: I'd MUCH rather deal with Bed-Stuy or even Chelsea's problems than be surrounded by shiatheads wearing ironic facial hair.

I've never had a hipster mug me or break into my car/apartment/etc. shoot that one teenager (yes, gang related) in the park just up the street or stab that one guy in my courtyard (thankfully I don't live there anymore). So while they may be annoying, I'd rather live around them and their ironic facial hair than the assholes who engage in the aforementioned behavior.

Spiralmonkey: As someone who lives in a World Heritage Site, I regularly have befuddled tourists wandering around in front of my house (one time having a picnic in my garden). My advice is STFU and let people photograph, wander, dawdle, whatever - they have every right to be there. Get over yourself, it's not the end of the farking world if someone stops to look at something.

I'd just go join them. What the hell it's a free lunch anyway.

Ikam: "Dear Chelsea, Nice problem to have. Wanna trade? Sincerely, Bedford-Stuyvesant"

And we are done here.

Williamsburg ain't in much better shape. Place is so farking overrun by hipsters, you can't spit in the wind without hitting some goofy dork in jeggings and a scarf sipping a latte. Or they're tooling around (emphasis on the word "tool") on a "fixie", being complete dangerous farkwits. The boyfriend has a lot of family that live there (he's a Jew, you see), and the last time we were up there to see them, it was nigh impossible to get around without running into one of these motherfarkers.

I'd MUCH rather deal with Bed-Stuy or even Chelsea's problems than be surrounded by shiatheads wearing ironic facial hair.

"Dear Chelsea, Nice problem to have. Wanna trade? Sincerely, Bedford-Stuyvesant"

And we are done here.

Dont wanna deal with tourist dont live there. Thats why I avoid downtown around major holidays.

It also amuses me when people decrying change try to paint New York as if it is just Red Lobster and McDonalds as far as the eye can see... Yup, absolutely right, no unique places left in the city.. nothing at all. Might as well stay in Arkansas..

i upped my meds-up yours: SharkTrager: T.M.S.: There are reasons NYC is a cultural performing arts hub.

Bumfark WY is not capable of 'running' theater, music or dance.

NYC has a lot of people and wealth. That's it. You can look at any number of other major cities with the same mix and they too are centers for the performing arts.

Not farking true. The critical 800lb gorillas don't really want anything outside NY to get anywhere - partly because it'll mean they themselves are less important, but even worse for them, it'll mean they've been kidding themselves all these years that nothing outside NY is really culturally viable.


New York creators of arts and entertainment have no way of (or interested in) limiting what is produced elsewhere.

But, the reality is the talent pool outside NYC severely limits most smaller cities from being able to compete on a national level.

lilplatinum: WhyteRaven74: lilplatinum: Once a neighborhood cleans up it becomes more desirable, once an area is desirable rents increase

Not necessarily. It's not the cleaning up that has made the neighborhoods more desirable, it's the change in zoning laws and rebuilding that have done it.

Still not a problem, plenty of New York and you aren't entitled to remain renting somewhere if it becomes a nicer area and you can no longer afford it.

Yeah, except for the fact that people who lived there for decades kept the landlords from going under when the neighborhood was a dump and now that it's more desirable, it's "get lost."

As to zoning laws, the zoning laws in NYC, Manhattan especially were changed so mega-real estate assholes could build high-rise our of scale modern monstrosities that are for the rich, not affordable housing for the middle and working classes. They're pricing out their tax base. There will come a day when it will just be really rich and really poor in NYC

Those zoning changes may make places more attractive to the rich, but it's a disaster for the local economy. Giuliani started it and Bloomberg ramped it up, but the City decided to put all of it's economic eggs in two baskets: real estate and the financial sector, two volatile markets The re-zoning destroyed a diverse economic base which was made up of light industry and thousands of locally owned businesses. They employed tens of thousands of New Yorkers.

When either the real estate or Wall Street took dives, the light industry and local businesses acted as an economic stabilizing force . Now, when either of those markets tanks, the economy is worse off than it would have been back when.

Oh and another thing. Out of control development puts a severe strain on the existing infrastructure. They've been building all these high rises in Brooklyn with no thought of the infrastructure. The L train is now operating at 108% capacity

PiffMan420: I live in Bergen county and we've managed to avoid the hipster infestation to some extent. Mostly because it's a suburban sprawl that's so unhip that they tend to be repelled. Hoboken has tragically started to fall to them and I'm sure a few have migrated to Jersey City among the yuppie pukes who work on Wall Street West.

I'm surprised that they haven't tried to slum it in Newark or Paterson, but they actually might get robbed at gunpoint by the locals instead of their nice, safe gentrified neighborhoods in NYC.

There are def parts of gentrified Newark.

Hoboken is only "cool" to Jersey kids. It is a mall with beer and has been fully gentrified for 15+ years. JC is only really gentrifying in areas closest to NYC and the path.

You've "managed"? Lol! Bergen County is one of the wealthiest counties in America. Its suburbia through and through. There's nothing there for a gentrifying yuppie or hipster.

Hipsters haven't gentrified Manhattan in years. You are thinking of yuppies.

T.M.S.: Chelsea is not a particularly trendy neighborhood.

I'm not sure sure I agree with the sentiment on that flyer, but what many here don't seem to realize is quite often people have lived in these neighborhoods decades before they became trendy. They were usually either downright dangerous or sketchy.

Then along comes Bloomberg and rezones entire neighborhoods for upscale and out of scale building and suddenly you neighborhood becomes a nightmare. Property values rise and then the mom and pop stores you've been going to for 30 years are priced out and replaced by upscale chains. Residents who have lived in that area that long are being pressured to leave so the landlords can get obscene rents.

I was an avowed enemy of the High Line since it's inception, not for the same reasons the flyer states, but because of what I wrote above. It's ironic because the guys who came up with the lame brain plan are gay and it is precisely gays that are being driven out of that neighborhood. In fact, there is a gay leather bar that has been there forever that is being pressured to leave because it doesn't fit in with the new ethos of the neighborhood.

A friend who has been living in East Village since the 80s has been vexed by all the young frat boy types who have moved into the new expensive high-rise next to her bldg. All kinds of excessive noise at all hours. She complained to them and they responded, "Maybe you picked the wrong neighborhood to live in." I am actually surprised she's not on trial for murder.

Nexzus: Well, imagine seeing signs similar to this in a fair amount of public bathrooms.
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Get on any transcontinental flight to or from Asia. Wait a few hours, then go to the lavatory. Look at the toilet seat. I can almost guarantee there will be footprints on the seat.



To be fair, if you go to many countries in Asia, even pretty developed ones like Korea, you will see not only squat-style flush toilets, but also "hybrid" toilets: Western-style in all other respects except they also have built into the bowl.

ultraholland: "Buildings are not tourist attractions:"

Yes, they are. People love architecture. Deal with it.

I was about to say, the Chrysler Building, the Empire State Building, and One World Trade Center are all tourist attractions, and the Chrysler Building, IMO, is an example of some supremely beautiful architecture.

Dear Idiot New Yorkers

When leaving Great Adventure on 537 going towards 195, and you dopes want to stop off at WaWa to get gas, cause it is like $20 cheaper than where you live. You have to use the right hand lane to make the left turn. We call that a Jug Handle down here in New Jersey and our state is full of them. The Pineys and retards in this state have been able to figure these out so why can't you so called smart, liberal, ivory tower, elitists do the same?

Someday a 20 ton dump truck is going to own your little POS hybrid and we will be scrapping what is left of you and family off of the highway.

Sincerely

Concerned New Jersey Resident

animal900: I have nothing against NYC or those of you who call it home, but please know that people are not impressed by the mere fact that you live there. Residents of New York seem to need to tell you that as quickly as possible when you meet them.

Goddamn motherfarking THIS.

what's far worse than tourists coming and sitting on your stoop?

as*clowns like the author who arrived in NYC three months ago and think they're natives.

/born on 14th st. and LOVE tourists- they're cute!!

Nexzus: Well, imagine seeing signs similar to this in a fair amount of public bathrooms.
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I like how the guy actually sitting on the toilet looks really relaxed and kinda stoned.

we'refromthesamestory: Has anyone told this guy he's aloud to move?

Don't want tourists? Don't live in a touristy spot. Problem solved.

Yup, this, particularly here on Fark.

Traffic problems? MOVE!
Problems finding a job? MOVE!
Property values? MOVE!
HOAs? MOVE!

If you don't like tourists, move to Des Moines.

I'd rather have people wanting to hang around taking pictures rather than opening the curtain really late one night and seeing a guy with a FBI vest and a large dog with a FBI vest walk by. Hell I'll take nonstop construction work in front of the apartment building instead of that shiat.

/I don't live in a cool place :(

Sucks to be you, High Line resident. I live in a mid sized town in the deep south that is about the farthest from a tourist destination there can be. I can't convince my closest, oldest friends to come to visit me, because I live in such a boring place. My family only visits once a year-at Christmas- because my house is large enough for everyone, and it is fairly warm here in December. Otherwise, tourists are not a problem here at all.

/I visit Manhattan often. Next time I'm going to the High Line and taking lots of pictures of buildings.

JosephFinn: Damn straight, anonymous resident. Hey, Visitors to Chicago! Yeah, you! Walk on the right side of the sidewalk! Don't walk three across! Stand on the right of the escalator and walk on the left! Have your order ready before getting to the cashier! (OK, that's more general.)

I'd trade walk on the right side for not walking three across and moving out of the way of people walking towards you. I don't care where people walk on the sidewalk as long as there's room for all. I even see residents not paying attention to where they walk. My pet peeve.

Imagine if all the tourists stayed home, the tax revenues would drop through the floor! Please come to Boston, tourists, just be nice.

Count your blessings, New Yorkers.

At least your tourists walk. Ours drive.

/Orlando
//54 million per year

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