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(BBC)   70 years ago today Czech partisans made Hitler very angry   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 104
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2012-05-27 05:09:58 PM  
Kubis, Gabcik and Valcik hid for three weeks after the assassination before they were betrayed. On 18 June 1942, they were surrounded in the crypt of a church. For several hours, they and four comrades held off an assault by over 700 Waffen SS and Gestapo troops, who ordered the Prague Fire Brigade to flood the crypt.

In the end, the three took their own lives. Bishop Gorazd, the Orthodox priest who had sheltered them, was arrested, tortured and executed.


I've been to that church and the crypt where they hid out. Very, very moving.
 
2012-05-27 05:13:17 PM  
Good riddance to a truly evil man.
 
2012-05-27 05:51:14 PM  
I remember watching "Operation: Daybreak" as a kid and being really freaked out by the ending. Years later, I found it was a true story and was even more freaked out (and amazed).
 
2012-05-27 06:14:11 PM  

KellyLockhart: I remember watching "Operation: Daybreak" as a kid and being really freaked out by the ending. Years later, I found it was a true story and was even more freaked out (and amazed).


Good damned movie.
 
2012-05-27 06:14:25 PM  
Good.

Fascism fails.

Police states suck.

Word.

;)
 
2012-05-27 06:14:59 PM  
They did nazi that coming.
 
2012-05-27 06:16:10 PM  
Did they steal his Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator?
 
2012-05-27 06:17:20 PM  
"Very angry indeed!"
 
2012-05-27 06:23:04 PM  
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2012-05-27 06:29:48 PM  
 
2012-05-27 06:29:50 PM  
Because grinding people under your bootheel and threatening them with extermination always works out in the end.

Well done gents, for having the steel ones to get rid of an evil human being. I am just sorry that the cost was so high.
 
2012-05-27 06:29:52 PM  
"SS Obergruppenfuehrer Reinhard Heydrich, the acting Reichsprotektor of Bohemia and Moravia"

Almost sounds like an introduction to some game show contestant.

/Heydrich was almost the definition of evil.
 
2012-05-27 06:31:46 PM  

Gyrfalcon: "Very angry indeed!"


Hiya, Gorgeous.
 
2012-05-27 06:37:09 PM  
I'll raise a glass to any asskickers of Nazi-dom.

Cheers, mates.
 
2012-05-27 06:37:35 PM  

coco ebert: Kubis, Gabcik and Valcik hid for three weeks after the assassination before they were betrayed. On 18 June 1942, they were surrounded in the crypt of a church. For several hours, they and four comrades held off an assault by over 700 Waffen SS and Gestapo troops, who ordered the Prague Fire Brigade to flood the crypt.

In the end, the three took their own lives. Bishop Gorazd, the Orthodox priest who had sheltered them, was arrested, tortured and executed.

I've been to that church and the crypt where they hid out. Very, very moving.


Is it wrong that the first thing this reminded me of was a level out of Max Payne 3? Anyway, that is an amazing story. I'm not too familiar with it.
 
2012-05-27 06:39:11 PM  

Mentat: Good riddance to a truly evil man.


Exactly. Just one rubber mask away from becoming a real-life Red Skull.

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2012-05-27 06:41:40 PM  

Wayne 985: coco ebert: Kubis, Gabcik and Valcik hid for three weeks after the assassination before they were betrayed.


I wonder what the Commies did to that squealer after WWII?

/snitches get stitches
 
2012-05-27 06:48:07 PM  
As an aspiring evil genius and global dominator, I consider Lidice to be the way to deal with resistors
 
2012-05-27 06:52:00 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Wayne 985: coco ebert: Kubis, Gabcik and Valcik hid for three weeks after the assassination before they were betrayed.

I wonder what the Commies did to that squealer after WWII?

/snitches get stitches


They came for him...

Standing here, you fearful farks.

Where're you?

Frick off.

;)_
 
2012-05-27 06:52:44 PM  
Mr Denemarek himself miraculously escaped suspicion and survived. In a final ironic twist, after the war he was accused by the Communists of being a Nazi collaborator.

Oh hearing that must've been rich for him
 
2012-05-27 06:54:10 PM  
*sniff*

*sniff*

*found*

next?
 
2012-05-27 06:59:26 PM  

almandot: Mr Denemarek himself miraculously escaped suspicion and survived. In a final ironic twist, after the war he was accused by the Communists of being a Nazi collaborator.

Oh hearing that must've been rich for him


I read a story of one guy in Poland who was working for the Nazis, but spying for the underground and helping local families. The whole time he knew if the Poles won, he would be killed as a Nazi sympathizer.

And he was.

I think that was in Benjamin Mendelkern's memoir, "Escape the Nazis."
 
2012-05-27 07:04:19 PM  
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2012-05-27 07:13:41 PM  
Came strictly for Marvin the Martian.

Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-05-27 07:17:53 PM  
The human cost was enormous. The men's families were rounded up and shot. The Czech villages of Lidice and Lezaky - based on flawed intelligence reports linking them to the parachutists - were razed and their inhabitants shot or sent to the camps. Another 15,000 people met the same fate.


This evil man was eventually replaced by other evil men... but his assassination directly resulted in the death of 15,000 innocent people...

Good job, hero.
 
2012-05-27 07:20:14 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Came strictly for Marvin the Martian.

Leaving satisfied.


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2012-05-27 07:22:21 PM  

KiplingKat872: almandot: Mr Denemarek himself miraculously escaped suspicion and survived. In a final ironic twist, after the war he was accused by the Communists of being a Nazi collaborator.

Oh hearing that must've been rich for him

I read a story of one guy in Poland who was working for the Nazis, but spying for the underground and helping local families. The whole time he knew if the Poles won, he would be killed as a Nazi sympathizer.

And he was.

I think that was in Benjamin Mendelkern's memoir, "Escape the Nazis."


That's very similar to the plot of one of my favorite Vonnegut books.
 
2012-05-27 07:23:18 PM  

traylor: The human cost was enormous. The men's families were rounded up and shot. The Czech villages of Lidice and Lezaky - based on flawed intelligence reports linking them to the parachutists - were razed and their inhabitants shot or sent to the camps. Another 15,000 people met the same fate.


This evil man was eventually replaced by other evil men... but his assassination directly resulted in the death of 15,000 innocent people...

Good job, hero.


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Totally worth it. When your already in hell, spit in the devils eye, even if he eats your kids. Did you think he would make you tea and crumpets if you hadn't? No, these people were farked, completely farked, no hope. So they spit in the devils eye on the way out. Beats taking it up the ass like you would, biatch.

/ok your trolling and you got me, but I was pre-angry so it was easy for you.
 
2012-05-27 07:25:44 PM  
Bullets make heavy friends, man.

Heavy Metal...

;)
 
2012-05-27 07:26:45 PM  
FTA:
"Even though it cost the lives of my family, my brother, my mother, my father and hundreds, thousands of other people."

"But as I always say - that's nothing compared to the losses we would have suffered if Heydrich had been allowed to live."


Indeed. It's a good think that none of it could have gone on without Heydrich, else we'd be reading about mass executions in concentration camps today. It might even redefine the word holocaust or something. Phew, dodged a bullet on that one.
 
2012-05-27 07:30:58 PM  

Mentalpatient87: KiplingKat872: almandot: Mr Denemarek himself miraculously escaped suspicion and survived. In a final ironic twist, after the war he was accused by the Communists of being a Nazi collaborator.

Oh hearing that must've been rich for him

I read a story of one guy in Poland who was working for the Nazis, but spying for the underground and helping local families. The whole time he knew if the Poles won, he would be killed as a Nazi sympathizer.

And he was.

I think that was in Benjamin Mendelkern's memoir, "Escape the Nazis."

That's very similar to the plot of one of my favorite Vonnegut books.


You have to figure there were a lot of people in that position, if they didn't work for the Nazis, they and there families would suffer and probably die, but if they did native patriots would kill them as collaborators. They must have figured they were dead either way, and so used their position to do the most good.
 
2012-05-27 07:32:27 PM  
"...their families..."

Damnit.
 
2012-05-27 07:36:27 PM  

RealAmericanHero: FTA:
"Even though it cost the lives of my family, my brother, my mother, my father and hundreds, thousands of other people."

"But as I always say - that's nothing compared to the losses we would have suffered if Heydrich had been allowed to live."

Indeed. It's a good think that none of it could have gone on without Heydrich, else we'd be reading about mass executions in concentration camps today. It might even redefine the word holocaust or something. Phew, dodged a bullet on that one.


It's called a war of attrition, something this country has had recent experience with. The guerillas just keep grinding and grinding the occupiers down until it becomes to costly to stay.

And the replacement of a upper level commander probably delayed thing by weeks, if not months, allowing people to go into hiding or escape. They never did get started on shipping the slavs to the camps in large numbers.
 
2012-05-27 07:39:16 PM  

Oldiron_79: As an aspiring evil genius and global dominator, I consider Lidice to be the way to deal with resistors


Oradour-sur-Glane and half of eastern Russia would also be examples.
 
2012-05-27 07:51:05 PM  
Some years ago I took a two-semester course in how the Holocaust has been interpreted on film. Harrowing and heart-wrenching stuff. Conspiracy with Kenneth Branagh as Heydrich was particularly chilling.
 
2012-05-27 07:59:25 PM  

KiplingKat872: RealAmericanHero: FTA:
"Even though it cost the lives of my family, my brother, my mother, my father and hundreds, thousands of other people."

"But as I always say - that's nothing compared to the losses we would have suffered if Heydrich had been allowed to live."

Indeed. It's a good think that none of it could have gone on without Heydrich, else we'd be reading about mass executions in concentration camps today. It might even redefine the word holocaust or something. Phew, dodged a bullet on that one.

It's called a war of attrition, something this country has had recent experience with. The guerillas just keep grinding and grinding the occupiers down until it becomes to costly to stay.

And the replacement of a upper level commander probably delayed thing by weeks, if not months, allowing people to go into hiding or escape. They never did get started on shipping the slavs to the camps in large numbers.


The Czech partisans were the models for a lot of terrorist organizations today. Insurgency never changes.
 
2012-05-27 08:12:15 PM  
thisispete: Some years ago I took a two-semester course in how the Holocaust has been interpreted on film. Harrowing and heart-wrenching stuff. Conspiracy with Kenneth Branagh as Heydrich was particularly chilling.

Conspiracy was an incredible movie. I rememebr watching a pirated copy in Junior English Class right after we watched Schindler's List.

Our English teacher was the daughter of a holocaust survivor. She seemed determined to make sure that everyone who passed through her class knew as much about it as possible.
 
2012-05-27 08:16:38 PM  
There's a film about Paris partisans called The Army of Crime. It's pretty amazing but I don't know how accurate it is. The man who made it said that it was difficult to make in modern France because the partisans were politically incorrect with the current government.
 
2012-05-27 08:31:48 PM  

BronyMedic: thisispete:

Our English teacher was the daughter of a holocaust survivor. She seemed determined to make sure that everyone who passed through her class knew as much about it as possible.


This.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Good on her.
 
2012-05-27 08:36:24 PM  

KiplingKat872: I read a story of one guy in Poland who was working for the Nazis, but spying for the underground and helping local families. The whole time he knew if the Poles won, he would be killed as a Nazi sympathizer.



I know a Frenchman whose mother was an agent for the French Underground and had infiltrated the Nazi organization in her area. After the war she was thrown in jail as a collaborator, and would have been tried and executed, but the "spymaster" she worked for stepped forward and vouched for her being a infiltrator, not a collaborator.

If you were a spy and the guy you reported to was killed or didn't come forward and claim you, you were kind of farked.
 
2012-05-27 08:37:12 PM  

orclover: No, these people were farked, completely farked, no hope.


Actually, except for the Jews, they probably weren't that farked. Germany wanted to conquer, not enslave. They needed taxpayers, farmers, skilled labor, and fresh young boys who spoke German and could sling a gun around.

The real problem is the Nazis were able to find out who the people were. A good black ops team should be untraceable as well as expendable. At the very least, suicide vests. This way not even most biometrics will help.
 
2012-05-27 08:40:54 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Came strictly for Marvin the Martian.

Leaving satisfied.


I can personally do a great voice imitation of Marvin.
 
2012-05-27 08:44:22 PM  
The Czechs are hardy bastards
 
2012-05-27 08:47:57 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: If you were a spy


Spies are dead people walking. For a the last 5000 years, the penalty for espionage has been death. Even today, nobody has a problem with killing spies. Sometimes we don't because of their worth as political hostages, but those are only the high profile KGB agents during the Cold War kind of thing. Your average spy is still killed, especially in gang wars.

So yeah, props to the people who took the job, but they knew the score.
 
2012-05-27 08:56:11 PM  

doglover: orclover: No, these people were farked, completely farked, no hope.

Actually, except for the Jews, they probably weren't that farked. Germany wanted to conquer, not enslave. They needed taxpayers, farmers, skilled labor, and fresh young boys who spoke German and could sling a gun around.

The real problem is the Nazis were able to find out who the people were. A good black ops team should be untraceable as well as expendable. At the very least, suicide vests. This way not even most biometrics will help.


No, Germany wanted resources for the Aryan Race. They moved German families into the houses they took from the Jews, gave their businesses to German owners. Hitler was very clear about that. In "Mein Kampf" he was quite explicit, the Slavs were only slightly above the Jews and Romany on the "subhuman" scale and were the next on the chopping block after the Jews had been eliminated.

And they knew it, which is why their undergrounds fought so hard.

Even as the war was winding down, Hitler was diverting trains that should have been used for supply and troop movements to ship ad many Jews to the camps as he could. He was not sane.
 
2012-05-27 08:59:45 PM  

KiplingKat872: He was not sane.


That's true.
 
2012-05-27 09:01:21 PM  
Those f'head people thought themselves better than all, and killed without a glimmer of conscious, and they flew flying machines into other countries, and they had , wait, . . . this is happening now.
 
2012-05-27 09:02:23 PM  
That's the reason the Russians fought as hard as they did.

Heck, German women were rewarded for cranking out as many kids as they could. It eould not surprise me if Germans were encouraged to move into occupied territories. They taking over Europe for the Aryans to use.
 
2012-05-27 09:09:21 PM  
It is said that Heydrich's own uniform had lodged in his spleen. Job well done I say.
 
2012-05-27 09:10:52 PM  
Any day you can really piss off Hitler is a good day.
 
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