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2012-05-28 12:13:19 AM  

baorao: finally saw The Avengers this weekend. One question: what was the deal with the fixation on that girl from Growing Pains? Is she married to Joss Whedon? Or is that all about some future Captain America storyline?


She's one of Whedon's pet actors.
 
2012-05-28 12:18:58 AM  

Nefarious: alwaysjaded: Let's hope the Amazing Spiderman suffers the same fate so Marvel can get its baby back.

Sony will just re-boot again if it fails... Marvel will get it back from Sony when they can pry it from its cold dead hands... that or Disney pays through the nose to get it back.


On the plus side, Marvel Studios has a production credit on the upcoming ASM and Disney has acquired the merchandising rights.
"To that end, we recently completed a transaction with Sony Pictures to simplify our relationship. And then in the deal, we purchased Sony Pictures' participation in Spiderman merchandising, while at the same time, Sony Pictures purchased from us our participation in Spiderman films. This transaction will allow us to control and fully benefit from all Spiderman merchandising activity, while Sony will continue to produce and distribute Spiderman films. We won't be specific about the economics of this 2-way transaction, but we expect it will drive attractive returns for Disney."

If all else fails, Marvel has an ace up their sleeve anyway
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2012-05-28 12:22:14 AM  

9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Your constant disparaging of it and declaring it'll never be as good as Avatar, along with mocking it for being an "unoriginal copy", heavily implies you think it's rubbish (yes yes, assuming makes an ass of you and me, but sometimes the subtext is so strong you can't help but see it).

It won't ever be as good as Avatar, that doesn't mean it's garbage.


Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.
 
2012-05-28 12:29:13 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.


So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.
 
2012-05-28 12:30:17 AM  

Bloody Templar: Click Click D'oh: alwaysjaded: . Did anyone see it? How was it?


It sucked... and that's going lightly on it.


I dunno why you think it sucked. I thought MiB 3 was at least as good as the first MiB. Josh Brolin's K is spot-on. You'd swear he was Tommy Lee Jones in a younger body. And I really enjoyed the character development we got to see in K, and, to a lesser extent, J. The way the script took little things and tied them all together at the end was really cool. Even things you thought were plot holes early on were addressed.

Anyone who loved the first one is sure to love this one, IMHO. I know I did. Sure, it wasn't Avengers, but what is?


I liked it. Dunno about beating the first MIB, but it was good.
 
2012-05-28 12:37:23 AM  

9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.

So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.


I'd hardly call being based on a comic story a "flaw". List the other problems you think it has. And it's rich hearing you trying to lecture me about my opinions on movies as you simultaneously suck Avatar's dick despite having the same "flaw", as you put it, as Avengers in a worse way and acting like ticket sales are the only measure of a movie's "worthiness". Now THAT'S opinion.
 
2012-05-28 12:39:57 AM  

9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.

So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.


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9Beers stops making sense after awhile Ghidorah; don't waste your time with reason or facts, he's on a roll
 
2012-05-28 12:51:14 AM  

Brainsick: 9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.

So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.

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9Beers stops making sense after awhile Ghidorah; don't waste your time with reason or facts, he's on a roll


I know, but I always harbor some small hope that people like him will make sense again at some point. Plus it can be fun watching him flail about.
 
2012-05-28 01:09:02 AM  

9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.

So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.


If you want to play that game, when adjusted for inflation, Avatar doesn't even crack the all-time Top 10.
 
2012-05-28 01:15:17 AM  

alwaysjaded: MIB 3 looks O.K. Liked the first one, 2nd one was very forgettable. Did anyone see it? How was it?


I enjoyed it. It's a kid's movie and an action comedy, if you can take that you'll probably enjoy it.

Was sitting next to an 8-year-old, that helped a lot too.
 
2012-05-28 01:17:36 AM  

meyerkev: brantgoose: Nobody goes to movies on Saturday Night any more

Going at 11 AM on a Saturday, and then using it as an excuse to spend the afternoon in downtown - $6/ticket.

Going Saturday night - $16.50/ticket.

/And in completely unrelated news, I went to see The Dictator today. It's not great, it's not terrible, funniest moment was actually the Ted trailer before it. Between the Thunder song and the White Trash names, I was sent into a hacking fit by my laughter.


Totally agree, that Ted trailer was freakin' hilarious! It isn't high cinema but that's okay, we just need to laugh and it looks like it just might deliver.
 
2012-05-28 01:18:29 AM  

SharkTrager: DamnYankees: SharkTrager: DamnYankees: Flint Ironstag: If by "spluttered out" you mean "already 4th all time worldwide and still playing and will overtake the 3rd all time WW movie in a couple of days and hasn't even opened in Japan yet."

It's not even halfway to Avatar's record, and its already been out overseas for almost two months. It won't come close to Titanic, much less Avatar.

Except, of course, it's banking at a rate 1/3 faster than Avatar.

Domestically. Most of this money is made overseas, where The Avengers has already been out two months.

Globally it hit a Billion as fast as Avatar, and did it despite the US opening being 9 days after the global opening.

Sorry hoss, but it's making money faster than Avatar, period.


The point is that The Avengers opened almost everywhere at the same time, so it won't keep hitting the gravy train like Avatar and Titanic did every time it opened in a new market.

It opened in at least 30 countries in April 25th/26th, and a bunch of other countries in May 3rd/4th.

The movie is not going to keep making money nowhere as fast as it's being doing. Also, "faster than Avatar" is irrelevant since Avatar was kind of a slow burner, but it had incredible legs.
 
2012-05-28 01:22:17 AM  

chewielouie: If you want to play that game, when adjusted for inflation, Avatar doesn't even crack the all-time Top 10.


But it does put it even further ahead of Avengers. Sounds about right.
 
2012-05-28 01:22:33 AM  

chewielouie: 9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.

So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.

If you want to play that game, when adjusted for inflation, Avatar doesn't even crack the all-time Top 10.


Further, Avatar was released in December, 2009. It's only competition was the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel and Sherlock Holmes. It pretty much ran unchallenged for its entire run, meaning there was nothing else to go see. The Avengers made everyone lose their taste for the Hunger Games, put a stake through Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows, sunk Battleship, and almost made people forget about MIB3. All things considered, the performance of The Avengers thus far is way more impressive. It may not catch Avatar in the end, but it has a shot at Titanic (another December release that sailed unopposed.)
 
2012-05-28 01:36:48 AM  

chewielouie: chewielouie: 9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Then stop acting like it is. All you've done is attack it for being "unoriginal" and "copying". Making a film adaptation of a story originally from a comic, novel, TV show, video game, or Broadway musical is not the same as taking the plots of several other movies and mashing them into one whole. Avengers also doesn't insult the audience with a "Humans are horrible, evil, plundering bastards" message that was laughed at when Captain Planet did it.

So lets not point out the flaws in the Avengers but it's cool to keep ripping on Avatar? Face it, you like the inferior movie and that's proven by the fact that Avengers will not come close to topping Avatar. Lets also not forget that Avatar did it 3 years ago and ticket prices have risen since. Stop acting as if your opinion on movies is all that matters.

If you want to play that game, when adjusted for inflation, Avatar doesn't even crack the all-time Top 10.

Further, Avatar was released in December, 2009. It's only competition was the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel and Sherlock Holmes. It pretty much ran unchallenged for its entire run, meaning there was nothing else to go see. The Avengers made everyone lose their taste for the Hunger Games, put a stake through Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows, sunk Battleship, and almost made people forget about MIB3. All things considered, the performance of The Avengers thus far is way more impressive. It may not catch Avatar in the end, but it has a shot at Titanic (another December release that sailed unopposed.)


I honestly wonder why Hollywood doesn't try and move some of the summer tent poles to different months. You know Hobbit is going to have months of unopposed box office. B/c Hollywood is too stupid to save some "good, not great" action movies for other months. I almost wish Prometheus came out in the off months. Theater owners don't have enough screens for everything.
 
2012-05-28 01:39:33 AM  

rickycal78: Sure it looked pretty, but the characters and story were pretty generic.


Wait, wait, wait...why am I just now hearing that there's a plot and characters in Avatar? I don't remember either of those.

In all seriousness, whatever plot Avatar had was simply a delivery system for the technology that Cameron commissioned/built for the sole purpose of using in another movie. (Has he even MADE another movie since Avatar? I don't remember.) It wasn't meant to have a stellar plot. Just enough of one to get you in. People didn't flock to it for the plot. They flocked to it because it was, and, I think, remains, one of the most technically innovative movies ever witnessed. Which is why its number dropped precipitously after a few weeks. (Well, that and normal drop off.)

Avengers, on the other hand, uses some of those same innovations, and crafts a pretty good story out of it. It had quite a lot going on in it. OUTSIDE of the cgi (Which, when I saw it in 3-D, was seemless...more than I can say for Avatar, which, admittedly, I only saw 2-D.), you care about the characters, which is more than anyone, except 9beers, apparently, can say about Avatar. No, I take it back. I cared about Ripley and the guy from Bones. Perseus and Uhuru, the supposed leads? Not so much. The ending was WAY too deus ex machina for me (What's Latin for "god out of the forest?"), I didn't understand his motivations at all, I don't know how she fell for him...not a damn thing in their actions made sense.

Overall, I enjoyed them both. Avatar's pretty to look at, but Avengers is the real movie here.

/it's late, and I'm a little drunk
//who knew you could get drunk off Labatt Blue?
//you wily Canadians!
 
2012-05-28 01:40:58 AM  

chewielouie: (another December release that sailed unopposed.)


Just For Pun?
 
2012-05-28 01:41:43 AM  

chewielouie: Further, Avatar was released in December, 2009. It's only competition was the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel and Sherlock Holmes. It pretty much ran unchallenged for its entire run, meaning there was nothing else to go see. The Avengers made everyone lose their taste for the Hunger Games, put a stake through Johnny Depp's Dark Shadows, sunk Battleship, and almost made people forget about MIB3.


Hahaha are you serious?
 
2012-05-28 02:24:40 AM  

9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: There's a difference between making an adaptation and snipping parts of your new movie from a bunch of unrelated ones. Avengers is a cinematic telling of the classic comic stories. Avatar was a hodge-podge of various "Humans are assholes to the environment and each other" movies with pretty effects added. Hell, many people who watched it said they only cared about the visuals.

Cameron created an entire new world for Avatar, who cares if the plot was familiar, everything else was original. So what was the plot of the Avengers? Oh yeah, an alien invasion, how original, right? All Whedon had to do was copy 70 years of comics, Cameron created everything new.


Hahahahaha . . . are you serious?

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2012-05-28 02:27:31 AM  

chewielouie: Hahahahaha . . . are you serious?


How was Delgo? Not that I have any real interest in watching it, mind. Just curious.
 
2012-05-28 02:27:58 AM  
Oops, forgot this one:

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You can stop fellating Cameron any time now.
 
2012-05-28 02:28:12 AM  

PizzaJedi81:

/it's late, and I'm a little drunk
//who knew you could get drunk off Labatt Blue?
//you wily Canadians!


You know Canadian beer is like moonshine

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/obscure?
//loved the Joe Carter reference in that movie
 
2012-05-28 02:30:56 AM  

PizzaJedi81: chewielouie: Hahahahaha . . . are you serious?

How was Delgo? Not that I have any real interest in watching it, mind. Just curious.


Hell if I know. ; )
 
2012-05-28 02:31:33 AM  

chewielouie: You can stop fellating Cameron any time now.


Nice try moron but Cameron was working on Avatar for years before Delgo came out.
 
2012-05-28 02:37:33 AM  

9beers: chewielouie: You can stop fellating Cameron any time now.

Nice try moron but Cameron was working on Avatar for years before Delgo came out.


Except animation for Delgo started in 2001 while Cameron started on his re-tooled version of Avatar in 2006.
 
2012-05-28 02:42:33 AM  

Flappyhead: 9beers: chewielouie: You can stop fellating Cameron any time now.

Nice try moron but Cameron was working on Avatar for years before Delgo came out.

Except animation for Delgo started in 2001 while Cameron started on his re-tooled version of Avatar in 2006.


Except, as your own pictures demonstrate, Delgo looked like ass and Avatar looked farking ace.

Also, Delgo had an even worse story than Avatar, if such thing was possible.
 
2012-05-28 02:45:05 AM  

rocky_howard: Flappyhead: 9beers: chewielouie: You can stop fellating Cameron any time now.

Nice try moron but Cameron was working on Avatar for years before Delgo came out.

Except animation for Delgo started in 2001 while Cameron started on his re-tooled version of Avatar in 2006.

Except, as your own pictures demonstrate, Delgo looked like ass and Avatar looked farking ace.

Also, Delgo had an even worse story than Avatar, if such thing was possible.


First, they're not my pics. Second, what does quality prove?
 
2012-05-28 02:49:55 AM  

Flappyhead: Except animation for Delgo started in 2001 while Cameron started on his re-tooled version of Avatar in 2006.


Well that settles it then. Obviously James Cameron sneaked into some dudes house and stole the art design shots. Still more original that some 50 year old comic books.
 
2012-05-28 03:02:01 AM  

Flappyhead: First, they're not my pics. Second, what does quality prove?


First, don't be facetious, of course they're not your pictures of your personal property, just the links you provided.
Second, "hur dur, waht does quality prove?" It proves that Cameron did a bang-up job on Avatar
 
2012-05-28 03:13:03 AM  

chewielouie: Oops, forgot this one:

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You can stop fellating Cameron any time now.


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2012-05-28 03:20:47 AM  
by the way, if you like Avatar you're wrong, sorry.

9beers is always wrong anyways, so this shouldn't really be a shock to anybody.
 
2012-05-28 03:27:17 AM  

SPna15: by the way, if you like Avatar you're wrong, sorry.

9beers is always wrong anyways, so this shouldn't really be a shock to anybody.


I'm always right and that's why people like you get so mad.
 
2012-05-28 03:34:50 AM  

SPna15: by the way, if you like Avatar you're wrong, sorry.


IMO, Avatar is actually 3 movies.

Movie 1: A hilariously expensive CGI episode of Meerkat Manor. Not bad, not great. Makes the $3 3D surcharge worth it*, because WOWZA, is that beautiful.

Movie 2: A really sappy love story coupled with really cliche moments that's basically Dances With Wolves. Extra embarrassing because I was home for Christmas, and was with my mother. As a guy, absolutely terrible.

Movie 3: JAMES CAMERON ACTION SCENE. James Cameron action scene with unlimited budget and arial battles. Totally awesome. Worth the price of admission.

So overall, not great, not bad. I've enjoyed myself more, but I've enjoyed myself less.

*even though I have no depth perception. Avatar and Tron Legacy fall into my "Movies I'm glad I saw in 3D" camp.
 
2012-05-28 03:56:44 AM  

9beers: SPna15: by the way, if you like Avatar you're wrong, sorry.

9beers is always wrong anyways, so this shouldn't really be a shock to anybody.

I'm always right and that's why people like you get so mad.


Like how college is secondary education, right?
 
2012-05-28 05:07:50 AM  

9beers:
Cameron created an entire new world for Avatar, who cares if the plot was familiar, everything else was original. So what was the plot of the Avengers? Oh yeah, an alien invasion, how original, right? All Whedon had to do was copy 70 years of comics, Cameron created everything new.


I legitimately laughed out loud at this. It's to your credit that you could overplay your hand so hard with this comment and still have the entire thread treating you seriously.

9.5/10 and you're damn well staying on my favourites.

\Liked Avatar, but seriously there is literally nothing in that movie that isn't a fairly broad and well known cliche of sci-fi, or action movies in general.
\\Every creature on Pandora was just two random Earth animals smooshed together.
\\\The climactic fight scene is a point-for-point inversion of the end of Aliens (the bad guy is a human in power amour, dies by getting exposed to deadly atmosphere instead of sucked into an airless void).
 
2012-05-28 05:32:57 AM  

9beers: Flappyhead: Except animation for Delgo started in 2001 while Cameron started on his re-tooled version of Avatar in 2006.

Well that settles it then. Obviously James Cameron sneaked into some dudes house and stole the art design shots. Still more original that some 50 year old comic books.


You have the most retarded reasons for disliking things I've seen outside a kindergarten classroom. "Ew, this movie is an adaptation of a comic book, I think it's terrible because it "copies" something really old (lookee me, I can't tell the difference between an adaptation and a copy), unlike this recent movie that copies from several other kinda-recent movies and looks really pretty and made tons of money, you do know that looking pretty and making tons of money are the only things that make a movie good right? I mean, besides my infallible opinion, while yours is complete bullshiat because you don't share MY opinion, hernky hernky hoo".

Wonder what your godlike opinion is on the Lord of the Rings movies. On one hand, they're an adaptation of old books and thus really lazy and stupid, but on the other hand they're visually amazing and made tons of money and thus incredible and amazing.
 
2012-05-28 05:38:48 AM  

chewielouie: 9beers: Keizer_Ghidorah: There's a difference between making an adaptation and snipping parts of your new movie from a bunch of unrelated ones. Avengers is a cinematic telling of the classic comic stories. Avatar was a hodge-podge of various "Humans are assholes to the environment and each other" movies with pretty effects added. Hell, many people who watched it said they only cared about the visuals.

Cameron created an entire new world for Avatar, who cares if the plot was familiar, everything else was original. So what was the plot of the Avengers? Oh yeah, an alien invasion, how original, right? All Whedon had to do was copy 70 years of comics, Cameron created everything new.

Hahahahaha . . . are you serious?

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I'm not saying Avatar is all that original, but except for the floating islands and glowing plant things, the rest either aren't that similar or are standard tropes of the fantasy genre.
 
2012-05-28 07:15:04 AM  
And the acting was better in Delgo!
 
2012-05-28 07:23:55 AM  

eddievercetti: MiB 3 is good, not as good as MIB 1 but to me, it does a better job as a sequel than MiB 2.

Though, my friend has brought up the time travel loophole, it's insane. And I thought the 3 DeLoreans was bad.


Don't. Just don't. Once you start to tug on that thread, everything unravels.

Just about every time travel movie ever made has a paradox at its core. Typically: if the hero goes back in time to prevent some tragedy, then the future changes, the tragedy is averted, and he no longer would have needed to go back in time. And yet the hero retains his memories of events that have now been erased from everybody else's history... (And yes, I think I know what "3 DeLoreans" problem specifically you're referring to in MiB3, but no spoilers.)

The only paradox-free time travel story is when the travel creates a self-consistent loop. There's a couple of those in Stargate SG-1, for instance the episode where General Hammond knows that SG-1 are about to be accidentally thrown back in time, and he writes a note for them to give to his younger self asking himself to help SG-1. Receiving the note when young is how he knows to write the note when older. And recent episodes of Doctor Who seem to be especially fond of self-consistent loops that seem to have no initiating event. For example, when the Doctor is locked inside the Pandorica, he returns from his own personal future to free himself... but he is only free in that future because he freed himself in the past. The loop is consistent, so long as you don't ask how it got started...
 
2012-05-28 08:05:42 AM  

czetie: eddievercetti: MiB 3 is good, not as good as MIB 1 but to me, it does a better job as a sequel than MiB 2.

Though, my friend has brought up the time travel loophole, it's insane. And I thought the 3 DeLoreans was bad.

Don't. Just don't. Once you start to tug on that thread, everything unravels.


Or your brain explodes trying to grasp the paradox...

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2012-05-28 08:53:02 AM  
The biggy is always about word of mouth. That's how Avatar, Titanic, Star Wars, The Avengers and all that made a shiatload of money. People go, think it's awesome, tell their friends it's awesome, their friends go and so forth. Blitz marketing will get a lot of people in for week 1, but if they tell their friends that it's garbage then their friends won't go.

And here's what I want movie companies to grasp: putting more care into script development pays off. It's such a ridiculously small amount of the overall budget of a movie, yet is the thing that generally turns a movie into something great that generates large word-of-mouth.
 
2012-05-28 09:55:24 AM  

chewielouie: It's only competition was the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel and Sherlock Holmes.


Those are ranked 91 and 111 all-time in unadjusted dollars. That's a pretty decent amount of competition. If Prometheus gets up that high, I am sure Fox will be very happy. Snow White isn't going to get there, unless it is a much better movie than previews are suggesting. MIB3 isn't going to get there, I don't think. It'll be close.
 
2012-05-28 10:15:54 AM  

Yukon Callmeal: chewielouie: It's only competition was the Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel and Sherlock Holmes.

Those are ranked 91 and 111 all-time in unadjusted dollars. That's a pretty decent amount of competition. If Prometheus gets up that high, I am sure Fox will be very happy. Snow White isn't going to get there, unless it is a much better movie than previews are suggesting. MIB3 isn't going to get there, I don't think. It'll be close.


An Alvin and the Chipmunks sequel made more money than Sherlock Holmes? Excuse me while I go throw up.

/Some people just want to see the world burn.
//And I'm more and more inclined to agree with them.
 
2012-05-28 10:26:38 AM  
Thanks to everyone who answered my question. I'll probably check it out since there isn't really much else that looks good right now. I wish July would hurry up and get here.

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2012-05-28 11:07:52 AM  

9beers: SPna15: by the way, if you like Avatar you're wrong, sorry.

9beers is always wrong anyways, so this shouldn't really be a shock to anybody.

I'm always right and that's why people like you get so mad.


images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2012-05-28 11:12:41 AM  

rocky_howard: Flappyhead: First, they're not my pics. Second, what does quality prove?

First, don't be facetious, of course they're not your pictures of your personal property, just the links you provided.
Second, "hur dur, waht does quality prove?" It proves that Cameron did a bang-up job on Avatar


I didn't provide any links. I'm not the one who posted the pictures. To my comment about quality, you presented your statement as though Camerons higher production value somehow gave it more merit in terms of originality(that may have not been your intent but that is how it read).
 
2012-05-28 11:16:28 AM  
Brilliant Pocahontas/Avatar mashup here: Link
 
2012-05-28 11:31:15 AM  

Flappyhead:

I didn't provide any links. I'm not the one who posted the pictures. To my comment about quality, you presented your statement as though Camerons higher production value somehow gave it more merit in terms of originality(that may have not been your intent but that is how it read).


Oh yeah, I realize now that it was someone else who posted them.

And the quality. Originality is overrated. Also, it's not as if Delgo itself was wholly original. It was also a very bad movie, like horrible.
So the point you guys are trying to prove is that Cameron copied from Delgo? Who cares, he made a better movie anyway.
 
2012-05-28 11:56:06 AM  

rocky_howard: Flappyhead:

I didn't provide any links. I'm not the one who posted the pictures. To my comment about quality, you presented your statement as though Camerons higher production value somehow gave it more merit in terms of originality(that may have not been your intent but that is how it read).

Oh yeah, I realize now that it was someone else who posted them.

And the quality. Originality is overrated. Also, it's not as if Delgo itself was wholly original. It was also a very bad movie, like horrible.
So the point you guys are trying to prove is that Cameron copied from Delgo? Who cares, he made a better movie anyway.


No, the point was to counter 9beers who actually believes that almost everything about Avatar was original, when hardly any of it actually was.
 
2012-05-28 02:41:59 PM  

chewielouie: No, the point was to counter 9beers who actually believes that almost everything about Avatar was original, when hardly any of it actually was.


Bullshiat and you know it. Everything from the creatures to the plants to the equipment were designed new for Avatar.
 
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