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2012-05-26 01:27:02 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.


Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.
 
2012-05-26 01:28:23 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: my commute is between 20 and 24 miles each way (depending on route) and takes 60-80 minutes (depending on wind). I love it,

Fricking cyclists. Stop falling underneath my tires! :)

I assure you I am slowing down no one else's commute, The bike infrastructure over here is better than that.


So is Madison's but some biker got under my car anyway! Of course pedestrians, cyclists and motorists are all equally douchey on the UW Campus.
 
2012-05-26 01:29:06 AM

steamingpile: Uchiha_Cycliste: my commute is between 20 and 24 miles each way (depending on route) and takes 60-80 minutes (depending on wind). I love it,

Yeah and you farking cyclists make our commute even shiattier when we have to ride behind you for 10 miles at farking 5MPH, all cycles should be banned on roads without bike lanes.

What really pisses me off is we have a green beltway that connects from way out here in horse country to marta rails, yet the bikes use the farking roads. Really? Use the god damned bike paths morons, its less chance of getting crushed by something that outweighs you by 2000lbs.


First off, calm down.
Secondly, you sound like a prick.
Third, where I am I am never blocking or slowing down cars. There is a respectable bike infrastructure through out silicon valley so we are never jockeying for position.
Fourth, why do you care so much what I do, and more importantl
y why are you so pissed off? It makes you look like a crybaby throwing a tantrum. Fifth, you would prefer all of us were in cars in front of you instead? That's just stupid.
Sixth, we are vehicles too and more entitled to use the roads than you. That privilege can be taken from you, but not from me.
Seventh, calm down bro.
 
2012-05-26 01:29:59 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.


Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...
 
2012-05-26 01:30:08 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.


mmmmmm yum
 
2012-05-26 01:32:17 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.

Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...


No, I haven't been to the west coast.
 
2012-05-26 01:34:06 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.

Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...

No, I haven't been to the west coast.


It's a damn shame. You know Zacharys could even be as good as the pizza that you long for, that leaves you ambivalent on the NY/Chicago thing. I can almost emphasize. to me it's that there are Zachary's/Chicago and/NY.
 
2012-05-26 01:36:30 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.

Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...

No, I haven't been to the west coast.

It's a damn shame. You know Zacharys could even be as good as the pizza that you long for, that leaves you ambivalent on the NY/Chicago thing. I can almost emphasize. to me it's that there are Zachary's/Chicago and/NY.


Oh, no. I grew up and still live in the same general area. Salamone's. Mmmmmm.
 
2012-05-26 01:38:32 AM
Simple:

When you watch a movie, and they order pizza, do you ever see anything that looks like something out of Chicago?

No.

There's a reason for that:

No one outside of Chicago would recognize it as pizza.

/oh, and your dogs suck, too
 
2012-05-26 01:39:47 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Simple:

When you watch a movie, and they order pizza, do you ever see anything that looks like something out of Chicago?

No.

There's a reason for that:

No one outside of Chicago would recognize it as pizza.

/oh, and your dogs suck, too


When you watch a movie do you eat Dots? Yeah, that doesn't mean you have taste.
 
2012-05-26 01:40:40 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.

Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...

No, I haven't been to the west coast.

It's a damn shame. You know Zacharys could even be as good as the pizza that you long for, that leaves you ambivalent on the NY/Chicago thing. I can almost emphasize. to me it's that there are Zachary's/Chicago and/NY.

Oh, no. I grew up and still live in the same general area. Salamone's. Mmmmmm.


If you are ever in the Bay Area, I'll take you . We'll go to the one on College, grab a few beers and ear an amazing pizza. It will rock your world. I wish we could find someone that has had both to compare them for us.

Unrelated note, I love the rage generated when I didn't even say cycling, because if I was driving during rush hour... the times are either the same, or worse. I could just as easily been listing car times, I just haven't driven in a few years.
 
2012-05-26 01:40:52 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: That privilege can be taken from you, but not from me.


Actually it has been taken from a couple of cyclists near me, they were cited numerous times for being a nuisance by holding up traffic then jumping back in front of the same cars who dared to pass them at red lights.

Oh and we have bike lanes, paths, roads that freely allow for bike travel but these idiots decide to use back roads which are too narrow for a car to safely pass them without our mirrors knocking them down, I am hoping the proposed laws pass out of committees so we can vote on forcing bikes to take approved roads with bike lanes or take the paths where available. I still dont know why they dont use the bike paths since it cuts through all the traffic and there is only like 3 stops in a 15 mile stretch of path, instead they take roads that will have a minimum of 7-10 stops at lights along with the chance of getting creamed by a car. Our roads werent made for cars and it doesnt give you the same right to them at rush hour, IMO and anyone else late for work will agree with me.

I am calm, until I get behind a cyclist down here, some are just dicks around here and want to act superior because they arent driving a car, also for the record my pricklyness never comes out until people refuse to use common sense to solve lifes little issues.
 
2012-05-26 01:43:14 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Simple:

When you watch a movie, and they order pizza, do you ever see anything that looks like something out of Chicago?

No.

There's a reason for that:

No one outside of Chicago would recognize it as pizza.

/oh, and your dogs suck, too


The movie Home Alone. They LIVE in Chicago. They order generic New York style pizza. Little Nero's is the place.
 
2012-05-26 01:43:53 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.

Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...

No, I haven't been to the west coast.

It's a damn shame. You know Zacharys could even be as good as the pizza that you long for, that leaves you ambivalent on the NY/Chicago thing. I can almost emphasize. to me it's that there are Zachary's/Chicago and/NY.

Oh, no. I grew up and still live in the same general area. Salamone's. Mmmmmm.

If you are ever in the Bay Area, I'll take you . We'll go to the one on College, grab a few beers and ear an amazing pizza. It will rock your world. I wish we could find someone that has had both to compare them for us.

Unrelated note, I love the rage generated when I didn't even say cycling, because if I was driving during rush hour... the times are either the same, or worse. I could just as easily been listing car times, I just haven't driven in a few years.


If I get out there before I die I will take you up on it.

Heh, I don't really hate cyclists, just Madison cyclists. Just like I only hate Madison pedestrians. They think they don't have to follow the rules of the road.

/Some cyclist played chicken with me and lost and decided to put his foot through my windshield. This was MANY years ago.
 
2012-05-26 01:48:51 AM

steamingpile: Uchiha_Cycliste: That privilege can be taken from you, but not from me.

Actually it has been taken from a couple of cyclists near me, they were cited numerous times for being a nuisance by holding up traffic then jumping back in front of the same cars who dared to pass them at red lights.

Oh and we have bike lanes, paths, roads that freely allow for bike travel but these idiots decide to use back roads which are too narrow for a car to safely pass them without our mirrors knocking them down, I am hoping the proposed laws pass out of committees so we can vote on forcing bikes to take approved roads with bike lanes or take the paths where available. I still dont know why they dont use the bike paths since it cuts through all the traffic and there is only like 3 stops in a 15 mile stretch of path, instead they take roads that will have a minimum of 7-10 stops at lights along with the chance of getting creamed by a car. Our roads werent made for cars and it doesnt give you the same right to them at rush hour, IMO and anyone else late for work will agree with me.

I am calm, until I get behind a cyclist down here, some are just dicks around here and want to act superior because they arent driving a car, also for the record my pricklyness never comes out until people refuse to use common sense to solve lifes little issues.


Well, for what it's worth. I'm not one of the pricks, I don't bother cars, and I watch myself. I take trails where they are available, which isn't often down here.
Also, because of the gridlock where I am, when I used to drive* the driving times are the same or worse during rush hour. You seem like you are taking out your anger on all cyclist because of what I believe to be a rather small percentage of the cycling community does. Though that percentage goes up near colleges.

* I started riding this regularly and in place of driving after I shattered my right leg. I rode to PT and regain my atrophied right leg and freedom of motion. I sold my car to force myself to ride everywhere and found I like it, so I haven't bought another yet.
 
2012-05-26 01:52:31 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: If all Chicago pizza is like Zacharys in Berkeley I can get behind that.

I am so pissed at Fark. I have to choose between the two? Can't I eat both?

both, like as in both Chicago and Zacharys?

\honestly not sure what you mean.

No, NY vs. Chicago. I love them both.

I don't see anything wrong per se. I suppose it comes down to whether or not you would get NY instead of zacharys (if it was available).
My self I'm not a huge fan of NY but it's infinitely better than no pizza.

Well, I am a fan of both but neither of them are as good as good old fashioned real pizza the Italian family makes here in my home town. So, fark them both equally and...I will eat them both equally.

Have you ever been to (or heard of ) Zacharys? It's like nothing else I've ever had. Nothing even comes close...

No, I haven't been to the west coast.

It's a damn shame. You know Zacharys could even be as good as the pizza that you long for, that leaves you ambivalent on the NY/Chicago thing. I can almost emphasize. to me it's that there are Zachary's/Chicago and/NY.

Oh, no. I grew up and still live in the same general area. Salamone's. Mmmmmm.

If you are ever in the Bay Area, I'll take you . We'll go to the one on College, grab a few beers and ear an amazing pizza. It will rock your world. I wish we could find someone that has had both to compare them for us.

Unrelated note, I love the rage generated when I didn't even say cycling, because if I was driving during rush hour... the times are either the same, or worse. I could just as easily been listing car times, I just haven't driven in a few years.

If I get out there before I die I will take you up on it.

Nice!

Heh, I don't really hate cyclists, just Madison cyclists. Just like I only hate Madison pedestrians. They think they don't have to follow the rules of the road.

/Some cyclist played chicken with me and lost and decided to put his foot through my windshield. This was MANY years ago.


I remember you sharing that story. I suppose you constantly get college cyclists, bummer. And I assure you, the Pedestrians are worse in Berkeley and San Francisco, FWIW. MUCH worse in Berkeley, where the town actively engages in car hate via their roads (and road blocks) , red-light timing and parking.
 
2012-05-26 01:56:28 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Well, for what it's worth. I'm not one of the pricks, I don't bother cars, and I watch myself. I take trails where they are available, which isn't often down here.
Also, because of the gridlock where I am, when I used to drive* the driving times are the same or worse during rush hour. You seem like you are taking out your anger on all cyclist because of what I believe to be a rather small percentage of the cycling community does. Though that percentage goes up near colleges.


Well to be honest I am for all vehicles that slow down commutes to stay off back roads, there are trucks that could easily take the next exit then drive back against the flow of traffic instead of getting off then winding through 10 miles of back roads. I have driven both, when I was on the bike I decided to not ride on roads at peak times and just use the paths and when driving a truck I would work my way around roads which require starting and stopping.

Basically Im for common sense but that went bye-bye in america years ago, if I could bike I would but that would suck in the summer in the south when the humidity is really shiatty.

And I know not all cyclists are pricks, its the old saying a few fark it up for everyone else.
 
2012-05-26 01:59:13 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: I remember you sharing that story. I suppose you constantly get college cyclists, bummer. And I assure you, the Pedestrians are worse in Berkeley and San Francisco, FWIW. MUCH worse in Berkeley, where the town actively engages in car hate via their roads (and road blocks) , red-light timing and parking.


Ahh, that was ages ago but I remember talking about it. Madison is an awesome cycling city even though I don't cycle. Great trails around the lakes.

/Peds are much worse in Madison, too.
 
2012-05-26 02:00:02 AM

steamingpile: And I know not all cyclists are pricks, its the old saying a few fark it up for everyone else.


No kidding. Some Falcons fans ruin it for everybody else. :)
 
2012-05-26 02:02:12 AM

steamingpile: Uchiha_Cycliste: Well, for what it's worth. I'm not one of the pricks, I don't bother cars, and I watch myself. I take trails where they are available, which isn't often down here.
Also, because of the gridlock where I am, when I used to drive* the driving times are the same or worse during rush hour. You seem like you are taking out your anger on all cyclist because of what I believe to be a rather small percentage of the cycling community does. Though that percentage goes up near colleges.

Well to be honest I am for all vehicles that slow down commutes to stay off back roads, there are trucks that could easily take the next exit then drive back against the flow of traffic instead of getting off then winding through 10 miles of back roads. I have driven both, when I was on the bike I decided to not ride on roads at peak times and just use the paths and when driving a truck I would work my way around roads which require starting and stopping.

Basically Im for common sense but that went bye-bye in america years ago, if I could bike I would but that would suck in the summer in the south when the humidity is really shiatty.

And I know not all cyclists are pricks, its the old saying a few fark it up for everyone else.


Indeed this is the case for cyclists. Especially when you consider that if a biker is doing everything right they are practically invisible. I theorize that cyclists have such a bad rep because some people only see the bad ones and not the 9 good ones for every bad one. In time they only see the ones acting up and begin to assume all cyclists behave that way. it's not hard to imagine that happening. Further I personally discourage those dangerous or rude behaviors in others. I teach a lot of people to ride/commute. Help them buy bikes or build one for them. Keep them riding when something breaks; the works. I make it my goal to get as many people riding as I can. So I do have a little say and power over what a lot or riders do, and I teach them the right ways of doing things.
 
2012-05-26 02:04:36 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: I remember you sharing that story. I suppose you constantly get college cyclists, bummer. And I assure you, the Pedestrians are worse in Berkeley and San Francisco, FWIW. MUCH worse in Berkeley, where the town actively engages in car hate via their roads (and road blocks) , red-light timing and parking.

Ahh, that was ages ago but I remember talking about it. Madison is an awesome cycling city even though I don't cycle. Great trails around the lakes.

/Peds are much worse in Madison, too.


Of the cyclists in Berkeley are pretty bad too, irreverant, sometimes stupid in the risks they take. The layout of the city and the anti-car vibe encourage it. I'm guessing our Peds are worse than yours, though I doubt it's a consolation. It's a combination of that clueless aloofness you get with the very, very, very bright and an I can walk where ever I want, when ever I want mentality.
 
2012-05-26 02:07:06 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: I remember you sharing that story. I suppose you constantly get college cyclists, bummer. And I assure you, the Pedestrians are worse in Berkeley and San Francisco, FWIW. MUCH worse in Berkeley, where the town actively engages in car hate via their roads (and road blocks) , red-light timing and parking.

Ahh, that was ages ago but I remember talking about it. Madison is an awesome cycling city even though I don't cycle. Great trails around the lakes.

/Peds are much worse in Madison, too.

Of the cyclists in Berkeley are pretty bad too, irreverant, sometimes stupid in the risks they take. The layout of the city and the anti-car vibe encourage it. I'm guessing our Peds are worse than yours, though I doubt it's a consolation. It's a combination of that clueless aloofness you get with the very, very, very bright and an I can walk where ever I want, when ever I want mentality.


I am guessing Berkeley and the UW campus are the same. The rest of Madison is different. Students think they are indestructible.
 
2012-05-26 02:09:54 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: I remember you sharing that story. I suppose you constantly get college cyclists, bummer. And I assure you, the Pedestrians are worse in Berkeley and San Francisco, FWIW. MUCH worse in Berkeley, where the town actively engages in car hate via their roads (and road blocks) , red-light timing and parking.

Ahh, that was ages ago but I remember talking about it. Madison is an awesome cycling city even though I don't cycle. Great trails around the lakes.

/Peds are much worse in Madison, too.

Of the cyclists in Berkeley are pretty bad too, irreverant, sometimes stupid in the risks they take. The layout of the city and the anti-car vibe encourage it. I'm guessing our Peds are worse than yours, though I doubt it's a consolation. It's a combination of that clueless aloofness you get with the very, very, very bright and an I can walk where ever I want, when ever I want mentality.

I am guessing Berkeley and the UW campus are the same. The rest of Madison is different. Students think they are indestructible.


Yeah, Cal and UW have the same populations. I bet they are pretty similar. It strongly also depends on the way the streets and roads and stuff are laid out. Cal is sort of wacky =P
 
2012-05-26 02:13:04 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: NY has the better pizza, Chicago has the better dog, and both the accents suck equally bad.


A New York accent has culture. By which I mean it sounds like sour milk smells.
 
2012-05-26 02:27:54 AM
Chicago and Washington might be ranked for bad traffic, but both areas DO actually have decent public transportation systems so one CAN pretty much avoid the traffic if need be (by taking the L or the Metro).

That said...I'd bet some of the worst traffic functionally speaking would be in larger cities in the Midwest and Southeast...Atlanta being among them; not only is the traffic horrid, generally the public transportation systems range from "crappy" to "nonexistent"...and particularly in the Southeast, a fair amount of this IS racially motivated as public transportation is seen as "that mode which only Brown And/Or Poor People Use To Get Around". (There are Atlanta suburbs that pretty much do not HAVE any form of public transportation--the folks leading "white flight" out of Atlanta have fought it for years for fears that those people might come into their lily-white neighbourhoods.)

Even in those places that DO have public transportation, even Zipcars and the like are rare and few and far between (Austin being actually a RARE exception here) and the public transportation systems typically have their last runs around 10pm--and no, there typically are not services for folks working third shift. :P

Compared to, say, even Indianapolis or Atlanta...Chicago and Washington have public transportation systems that must have been designed by the very Gods Of Traffic Engineering in comparison :P
 
2012-05-26 02:33:59 AM
Can you agree that LA and LA/OC is hands down the worst?
 
2012-05-26 02:37:45 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Can you agree that LA and LA/OC is hands down the worst?


The worst traffic I have encountered is Houston in a light drizzle. Again, never been to the west coast. Chicago was second but maybe only because I went through there a couple of times a week.
 
2012-05-26 02:49:07 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can you agree that LA and LA/OC is hands down the worst?

The worst traffic I have encountered is Houston in a light drizzle. Again, never been to the west coast. Chicago was second but maybe only because I went through there a couple of times a week.


LA during bad rush hour is like 80 miles by 50 miles of grid lock. Every freeway in every direction bumper to bumper. Probably thousands of miles of no one moving, and no appreciable public transportation.
 
2012-05-26 02:51:38 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can you agree that LA and LA/OC is hands down the worst?

The worst traffic I have encountered is Houston in a light drizzle. Again, never been to the west coast. Chicago was second but maybe only because I went through there a couple of times a week.

LA during bad rush hour is like 80 miles by 50 miles of grid lock. Every freeway in every direction bumper to bumper. Probably thousands of miles of no one moving, and no appreciable public transportation.


You know what is bad about Chicago rush hour? How terrifyingly fast it is. Even in a semi I was intimidated. It wasn't the traffic jams that were bad there.
 
2012-05-26 02:56:34 AM

Bunnyhat: Bridgeport and maybe Austin are the two places on that list where you need to own a car.

I'm not sure about Austin. I've gotten mixed signals for it.
In about 2 years I will be moving.

The beautiful thing is, I can move anywhere.

I would like to move someplace where I don't need to own a car to get around in, but isn't extremely expensive like New York City.
Any Austin Farkers able to comment on their public transportation and living in Austin?

Any shout outs for other good cities?


Chicago is pretty nice. It is big and not terribly expensive for its size.
 
2012-05-26 03:02:44 AM

Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Sabyen91: Uchiha_Cycliste: Can you agree that LA and LA/OC is hands down the worst?

The worst traffic I have encountered is Houston in a light drizzle. Again, never been to the west coast. Chicago was second but maybe only because I went through there a couple of times a week.

LA during bad rush hour is like 80 miles by 50 miles of grid lock. Every freeway in every direction bumper to bumper. Probably thousands of miles of no one moving, and no appreciable public transportation.

You know what is bad about Chicago rush hour? How terrifyingly fast it is. Even in a semi I was intimidated. It wasn't the traffic jams that were bad there.


Its an enviable problem... Rush hour where I am makes it faster to ride a bike over 20 miles than to drive. Driving home regularly took over an hour, and it's gotta be less than 13-15 miles on 101. Driving from Berkeley every day was even worse. Anyways... So back in the day my Mom worked in El Segundo, to get there from Orange county regularly took 3 hours in a Van pool, each way, to cover 55 miles. There was apparently this one curve along the 405 near Long Beach that was always ridiculously slow. It really wore on her.
 
2012-05-26 03:53:28 AM

Sabyen91: I don't get the NY vs. Chicago thing.

/They both taste good.


NY style is better.

/Chicago
 
2012-05-26 03:58:07 AM

Gunderson: Real Pizza has Pineapple and ham on it, and some sweaty Italian dude with a tanktop spins it with his bare hands.


Do you know what kind of people put fruit on pizza?

Sociopaths, that's who.
 
2012-05-26 04:39:28 AM

fn129: Do you know what kind of people put fruit on pizza?

Sociopaths, that's who.



Pineapple is the best farking thing ever on pizza. No idea why it works, it just does. What's funny is that I'm not even the biggest fan of raw pineapple.
 
2012-05-26 04:59:58 AM

9beers: fn129: Do you know what kind of people put fruit on pizza?

Sociopaths, that's who.


Pineapple is the best farking thing ever on pizza. No idea why it works, it just does. What's funny is that I'm not even the biggest fan of raw pineapple.


A-farking-men.

NY pizza is not pizza. Art of Pizza in Chicago, now that's pizza.

Oh, and just cause no one's mentioned it yet, WHAT THE FARK are Philadelphians thinking trying to make the world eat their damned cheesesteak? Sickass motherfarkers. Now that's why I know folks from Philly are crazy.

Just go get an Italian beef from any one of a dozen places in Chicago.

But yes, NY does have great bagels, among other things.

Zachary's looks like something from Gino's East, which is great stuff but not _the_best_
 
2012-05-26 05:01:40 AM
whoops, meant to just amen the "sociopaths" part...pineapple on pizza is gross
 
2012-05-26 05:21:52 AM
Honolulu farkers unite! F*ck traffic, fark Carlisle, fark Caldwell and fark Cayetano. Let's get together for some beers!

Respond in thread if interested. If we can get a quorum let's throw a DIY fark party
 
2012-05-26 05:49:27 AM

aharown: Just go get an Italian beef from any one of a dozen places in Chicago.


Yeah, these can be good, as long as they don't farking SUBMERGE the entire sandwich in a vat of au jus, or pour a ton on top. Soggy bread is farking gross besides which being a mess to eat.
 
2012-05-26 06:41:50 AM
Had my first deep dish this year. Tasted like wet saucy pie.

/NY is the original and best mofo's
 
2012-05-26 07:05:34 AM

relaxitsjustme: Honolulu farkers unite! F*ck traffic, fark Carlisle, fark Caldwell and fark Cayetano. Let's get together for some beers!

Respond in thread if interested. If we can get a quorum let's throw a DIY fark party


*raises hand*

Let's do it.
 
2012-05-26 08:56:26 AM
THERE ARE ONLY 2 PLACES IN THE WORLD TO GET CHICGAO STYLE PIZZA

UNO'S AND DUEY'S
 
2012-05-26 09:43:56 AM

Sabyen91: I don't get the NY vs. Chicago thing.


I never understood the either or thing either. I'm from Chicago so I grew up on both the deep-dish and chicago thin-crust (which I prefer over deep-dish) but I've been to NYC numerous times (I love visiting NYC it's a great city, although the Yankees can suck it) and insist on having at least once slice of New York style while visiting as I find it quite tasty.

As far as drivers and traffic is concerned, in my experience, in the U.S., Boston drivers near the top with their insanity (although I've heard that Miami is pretty out there as well, but I've never been there). But if you really want some fun, go for a drive in Brazil, those guys nuts.
 
2012-05-26 09:48:04 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: THERE ARE ONLY 2 PLACES IN THE WORLD TO GET CHICGAO STYLE PIZZA

UNO'S AND DUEY'S


FTW!

/In your face, subby!
 
2012-05-26 11:32:29 AM

Ikam: Sabyen91: I don't get the NY vs. Chicago thing.

I never understood the either or thing either. I'm from Chicago so I grew up on both the deep-dish and chicago thin-crust (which I prefer over deep-dish) but I've been to NYC numerous times (I love visiting NYC it's a great city, although the Yankees can suck it) and insist on having at least once slice of New York style while visiting as I find it quite tasty.


I apply the same rule to pizza as I do to beer. There's only two kinds: the kind you pay for and the kind you get for free.

/much happier life
 
2012-05-26 09:58:44 PM

universebetween: ArcadianRefugee: Simple:

When you watch a movie, and they order pizza, do you ever see anything that looks like something out of Chicago?

No.

There's a reason for that:

No one outside of Chicago would recognize it as pizza.

/oh, and your dogs suck, too

The movie Home Alone. They LIVE in Chicago Winnetka. They order generic New York style pizza. Little Nero's is the place.


as a lifelong Chicagoan.....the suburbs AREN'T the city.


true Chicago pizza is a meal. and meant to be treated as such. sit the fark down enjoy it and dont plan on doing much else.

NY pizza is functional. it allows you a free hand to be a douchebag as you eat.

/biased.
 
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