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2012-05-25 08:52:55 AM  
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2012-05-25 11:00:17 AM  
Tim Tebow will be a great addition to the New York Jets as a punt team, fullback, running back, TE, and Wildcat QB. But because ESPN has a ratings hardon the size of Bristol for him, all you will hear from them is "Tebow needs to start.". Because when Tebow starts they get higher ratings.
 
2012-05-25 12:08:50 PM  
It's working out perfectly for the Jets. Sanchez knows he has a popular backup, and thus has to step it up. The Jets have a versatile player who can be used in many packages and schemes and brings some crowd support.

I almost hate how classy Tebow sounds in that article. I'm willing to bet it was genuine, too.
 
2012-05-25 12:39:02 PM  

Quasar: It's working out perfectly for the Jets. Sanchez knows he has a popular backup, and thus has to step it up. The Jets have a versatile player who can be used in many packages and schemes and brings some crowd support.

I almost hate how classy Tebow sounds in that article. I'm willing to bet it was genuine, too.


Tebow is classy, his cheerleaders in the media are not.
 
2012-05-25 12:55:13 PM  

WTF Indeed: Quasar: It's working out perfectly for the Jets. Sanchez knows he has a popular backup, and thus has to step it up. The Jets have a versatile player who can be used in many packages and schemes and brings some crowd support.

I almost hate how classy Tebow sounds in that article. I'm willing to bet it was genuine, too.

Tebow is classy, his cheerleaders in the media are not.


We can't blame everyone Skip Bayless likes for Skip Bayless.

/Or can we?
 
2012-05-25 01:01:08 PM  
Skip Bayless is a hack
 
2012-05-25 01:04:27 PM  

WTF Indeed: Tim Tebow will be a great addition to the New York Jets as a punt team, fullback, running back, TE, and Wildcat QB. But because ESPN has a ratings hardon the size of Bristol for him, all you will hear from them is "Tebow needs to start.". Because when Tebow starts they get higher ratings.


That's been the consensus all along. Tebow is a good football player. He's not a very good quarterback. He can be a boon to an offense for 20 snaps a game as a multi-dimensional threat, but his 45% passing doesn't cut it as a starting QB.

Sanchize > Tebow
 
2012-05-25 01:08:42 PM  

Jubeebee: WTF Indeed: Tim Tebow will be a great addition to the New York Jets as a punt team, fullback, running back, TE, and Wildcat QB. But because ESPN has a ratings hardon the size of Bristol for him, all you will hear from them is "Tebow needs to start.". Because when Tebow starts they get higher ratings.

That's been the consensus all along. Tebow is a good football player. He's not a very good quarterback. He can be a boon to an offense for 20 snaps a game as a multi-dimensional threat, but his 45% passing doesn't cut it as a starting QB.

Sanchize > Tebow


Brian Mitchell was a college quarterback, if I recall correctly, and the Redskins were very successful using him situationally and as a kick returner. I wonder if Tebow might fit that mold.
 
2012-05-25 01:10:17 PM  

WTF Indeed: Tim Tebow will be a great addition to the New York Jets as a punt team, fullback, running back, TE, and Wildcat QB. But because ESPN has a ratings hardon the size of Bristol for him, all you will hear from them is "Tebow needs to start.". Because when Tebow starts they get higher ratings.


Pretty much. Tebow seems like a great option to have for trick plays. Inserting him in at TE and allowing him to throw from time to time will always keep defenses guessing. However he's not starting QB material - Although a case could be made that Sanchez is also highly suspect in that regard.
 
2012-05-25 01:13:24 PM  
except tebow has stated several times he wants to be a starting qb in the nfl and someone is likely dumb enough to give him a chance.
 
2012-05-25 01:33:28 PM  
The worst thing that can happen for Tebow this year is if he plays QB and his passes are a little more accurate. The only reason his interception rate wasn't outrageous is because the passes were so bad that there weren't any defenders in the area either.
 
2012-05-25 01:46:15 PM  

SharkTrager: The worst thing that can happen for Tebow this year is if he plays QB and his passes are a little more accurate. The only reason his interception rate wasn't outrageous is because the passes were so bad that there weren't any defenders in the area either.


You can't explain that to the Tebow fan club. Some of his passes were so bad I'm surprised he didn't get called for intentional grounding. I had a few people mad at me for laughing at those throws into the turf ten feet away from the open reciever.
 
2012-05-25 02:15:56 PM  
a lot more college quarterbacks take on different roles successfully when they get to the NFL than you might think

/paging ric romero
 
2012-05-25 02:33:11 PM  
I'm anticipating a Jets implosion like you've never seen before. Wait until Sanchez loses two games in a row. The NY media will start crying that the team could not get Peyton as QB.
 
2012-05-25 02:36:58 PM  

SharkTrager: The worst thing that can happen for Tebow this year is if he plays QB and his passes are a little more accurate. The only reason his interception rate wasn't outrageous is because the passes were so bad that there weren't any defenders in the area either.


That's because he was throwing them to Jesus. Who is everywhere.
 
2012-05-25 03:11:06 PM  
I like Tebow. He ALWAYS stinks at Preseason games and practices, but steps up once the Regular Season starts. I think it's because the pressure to succeed is greater where there's an actual game and/or Playoff spots at stake, as opposed to Exhibition games and practice, which is more about getting warmed up and prepped for the actual season than victory or defeat.

If the Jets want to get more out of Tebow in practice, they've got to convince him that there is actually something worth fighting for during the Preseason. For instance, threaten to kick him off the team if he doesn't beat out Mark Sanchez for Starting QB before Week 1. Have his parents tell him they'll get a divorce if he loses a Preseason game.

Tebow's at his best when his back is to the wall and defeat is all but a reality. If you could get that pressure on him now, it will do wonders for him.
 
2012-05-25 03:11:53 PM  

CheatCommando: Brian Mitchell was a college quarterback, if I recall correctly, and the Redskins were very successful using him situationally and as a kick returner. I wonder if Tebow might fit that mold.


Tebow isn't fast enough. He's more of a bruiser, but that type of runner usually doesn't work well with kickoffs due to the speeds involved.
 
2012-05-25 03:23:22 PM  

Captain Steroid: I like Tebow. He ALWAYS stinks at Preseason games and practices, but steps up once the Regular Season starts. I think it's because the pressure to succeed is greater where there's an actual game and/or Playoff spots at stake, as opposed to Exhibition games and practice, which is more about getting warmed up and prepped for the actual season than victory or defeat.

If the Jets want to get more out of Tebow in practice, they've got to convince him that there is actually something worth fighting for during the Preseason. For instance, threaten to kick him off the team if he doesn't beat out Mark Sanchez for Starting QB before Week 1. Have his parents tell him they'll get a divorce if he loses a Preseason game.

Tebow's at his best when his back is to the wall and defeat is all but a reality. If you could get that pressure on him now, it will do wonders for him.


Geez, dude. Tebow was 6-22 for 60 yds, 2 turnovers(20.6 QB rating) in the season ending, *must-win* loss to the Chiefs. Yeah, the Broncos still backed into the playoffs, but he was farking terrible in a must-win home game against a division rival with a playoff spot on the line. The myth that Tebow is clutch is just that, a myth.
 
2012-05-25 03:29:39 PM  
Great news! All they need to do now is get Sanchez to learn how to kick field goals!
 
2012-05-25 03:35:36 PM  

Intoxoman: Some of his passes were so bad I'm surprised he didn't get called for intentional grounding.


Probably because it's obviously not intentional.

If those wounded ducks were thrown on purpose, he's shaving points.
 
rka
2012-05-25 03:46:23 PM  

MayoSlather: Tebow seems like a great option to have for trick plays


The value of a trick play is greatly lessened when Tebow himself is the giveaway that it's a trick play.

The value he had last year was that he took every snap and you didn't *know* when he'd chuck it, run with it or hand it off.

You put Sanchez *and* Tebow on the field at the same time? Oh gee, I wonder who's going to get the ball 95% of the time?
 
2012-05-25 04:01:17 PM  

Captain Steroid: I like Tebow. He ALWAYS stinks at Preseason games and practices, but steps up once the Regular Season starts. I think it's because the pressure to succeed is greater where there's an actual game and/or Playoff spots at stake, as opposed to Exhibition games and practice, which is more about getting warmed up and prepped for the actual season than victory or defeat.

If the Jets want to get more out of Tebow in practice, they've got to convince him that there is actually something worth fighting for during the Preseason. For instance, threaten to kick him off the team if he doesn't beat out Mark Sanchez for Starting QB before Week 1. Have his parents tell him they'll get a divorce, convert to islam and get gay married to Mexican DEMOCRAT drug lords, if he loses a Preseason game.

Tebow's at his best when his back is to the wall and defeat is all but a reality. If you could get that pressure on him now, it will do wonders for him.


FTFY
 
2012-05-25 04:08:51 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Geez, dude. Tebow was 6-22 for 60 yds, 2 turnovers(20.6 QB rating) in the season ending, *must-win* loss to the Chiefs. Yeah, the Broncos still backed into the playoffs, but he was farking terrible in a must-win home game against a division rival with a playoff spot on the line. The myth that Tebow is clutch is just that, a myth.


Wow, that's pretty harsh on a rookie qb in his first big game situation. If everyone was a failure because of a bad game then nobody would be in the HOF.
 
2012-05-25 04:22:53 PM  
Wow, that's pretty harsh on a rookie qb in his first big game situation. If everyone was a failure because of a bad game then nobody would be in the HOF.

You do realize he wasn't a rookie last year right?
 
2012-05-25 04:27:46 PM  

Jubeebee: WTF Indeed: Tim Tebow will be a great addition to the New York Jets as a punt team, fullback, running back, TE, and Wildcat QB. But because ESPN has a ratings hardon the size of Bristol for him, all you will hear from them is "Tebow needs to start.". Because when Tebow starts they get higher ratings.

That's been the consensus all along. Tebow is a good football player. He's not a very good quarterback. He can be a boon to an offense for 20 snaps a game as a multi-dimensional threat, but his 45% passing doesn't cut it as a starting QB.

Sanchize > Tebow


It would if he could play the Steelers for every playoff game.
 
2012-05-25 04:34:47 PM  

intelligent comment below: Ow! That was my feelings!: Geez, dude. Tebow was 6-22 for 60 yds, 2 turnovers(20.6 QB rating) in the season ending, *must-win* loss to the Chiefs. Yeah, the Broncos still backed into the playoffs, but he was farking terrible in a must-win home game against a division rival with a playoff spot on the line. The myth that Tebow is clutch is just that, a myth.

Wow, that's pretty harsh on a rookie qb in his first big game situation. If everyone was a failure because of a bad game then nobody would be in the HOF.


You think that was harsh? Heh, I guess I forgot that any criticism of the Tebow is an outrage.
 
2012-05-25 04:52:09 PM  

rka: MayoSlather: Tebow seems like a great option to have for trick plays

The value of a trick play is greatly lessened when Tebow himself is the giveaway that it's a trick play.

The value he had last year was that he took every snap and you didn't *know* when he'd chuck it, run with it or hand it off.

You put Sanchez *and* Tebow on the field at the same time? Oh gee, I wonder who's going to get the ball 95% of the time?


Well you run him at TE enough in standard formations and you will have to guess.
 
2012-05-25 04:55:15 PM  
Look, the man led Florida to two BCS titles, and more importantly, two SEC titles! He's a proven leader and a QB that knows how to win. He just does.
 
2012-05-25 05:09:24 PM  
I thought you could only have one QB on the field at a time due to the radios in the helmets.
 
2012-05-25 06:01:37 PM  

Jubeebee: WTF Indeed: Tim Tebow will be a great addition to the New York Jets as a punt team, fullback, running back, TE, and Wildcat QB. But because ESPN has a ratings hardon the size of Bristol for him, all you will hear from them is "Tebow needs to start.". Because when Tebow starts they get higher ratings.

That's been the consensus all along. Tebow is a good football player. He's not a very good quarterback. He can be a boon to an offense for 20 snaps a game as a multi-dimensional threat, but his 45% passing doesn't cut it as a starting QB.

Sanchize > Tebow


The Jets still suck.
 
2012-05-25 07:20:55 PM  

intelligent comment below: Ow! That was my feelings!: Geez, dude. Tebow was 6-22 for 60 yds, 2 turnovers(20.6 QB rating) in the season ending, *must-win* loss to the Chiefs. Yeah, the Broncos still backed into the playoffs, but he was farking terrible in a must-win home game against a division rival with a playoff spot on the line. The myth that Tebow is clutch is just that, a myth.

Wow, that's pretty harsh on a rookie qb in his first big game situation. If everyone was a failure because of a bad game then nobody would be in the HOF.


He wasn't a rookie.
 
2012-05-25 08:10:20 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Geez, dude. Tebow was 6-22 for 60 yds, 2 turnovers(20.6 QB rating) in the season ending, *must-win* loss to the Chiefs. Yeah, the Broncos still backed into the playoffs, but he was farking terrible in a must-win home game against a division rival with a playoff spot on the line. The myth that Tebow is clutch is just that, a myth.


He lost 4 of his last 5 starts. two in historically horrible fashion. they were ALL must-win games.
 
2012-05-25 09:03:46 PM  

intelligent comment below: Wow, that's pretty harsh on a rookie qb in his first big game situation. If everyone was a failure because of a bad game then nobody would be in the HOF.


Not only was he not a rookie and not in his first big game situation, but the label of being "clutch" is supposed to suggest that you play well in exactly those sorts of situations. Make all the excuses you want for him, but those sorts of stats illustrate exactly why the label doesn't stick.

Sure, he was in a couple games where his team made comeback wins, mostly on the strength of the Bronco's D keeping them in games. People think he is clutch because he managed to play up to the level that you expect of any NFL QB in some tight 4th quarters; it only looks great by comparison because he is so bad in the other 3 quarters.
 
2012-05-25 10:14:56 PM  

intelligent comment below: Wow, that's pretty harsh on a rookie qb in his first big game situation.


lol
 
2012-05-25 10:15:15 PM  

davidphogan: I thought you could only have one QB on the field at a time due to the radios in the helmets.


Just can't have a helmet with a radio in it. Helmets with radios have dots - they'd probably have to come up with two helmets for him.
 
2012-05-26 12:39:19 AM  

Gawdzila: Not only was he not a rookie and not in his first big game situation, but the label of being "clutch" is supposed to suggest that you play well in exactly those sorts of situations. Make all the excuses you want for him, but those sorts of stats illustrate exactly why the label doesn't stick.

Sure, he was in a couple games where his team made comeback wins, mostly on the strength of the Bronco's D keeping them in games. People think he is clutch because he managed to play up to the level that you expect of any NFL QB in some tight 4th quarters; it only looks great by comparison because he is so bad in the other 3 quarters.



So when they lose, it's his fault.

When they win, it was because of someone else.

You soap opera fans are unbelievable.
 
2012-05-26 12:40:25 AM  

SharkTrager: He wasn't a rookie.


Starting 3 games doesn't count as a full season. This was his first real season. And he performed very well and helped the team go the playoffs against what everyone said was a certain 0-16 season.
 
2012-05-26 12:41:12 AM  

Captain Steroid: I like Tebow. He ALWAYS stinks at Preseason games and practices, but steps up once the Regular Season starts. I think it's because the pressure to succeed is greater where there's an actual game and/or Playoff spots at stake, as opposed to Exhibition games and practice, which is more about getting warmed up and prepped for the actual season than victory or defeat.

If the Jets want to get more out of Tebow in practice, they've got to convince him that there is actually something worth fighting for during the Preseason. For instance, threaten to kick him off the team if he doesn't beat out Mark Sanchez for Starting QB before Week 1. Have his parents tell him they'll get a divorce if he loses a Preseason game.

Tebow's at his best when his back is to the wall and defeat is all but a reality. If you could get that pressure on him now, it will do wonders for him.


How do you explain this game?
 
2012-05-26 12:46:13 AM  

intelligent comment below: SharkTrager: He wasn't a rookie.

Starting 3 games doesn't count as a full season. This was his first real season. And he performed very well and helped the team go the playoffs against what everyone said was a certain 0-16 season.


Move the goalposts much?
 
2012-05-26 12:48:52 AM  

Captain Steroid: I like Tebow. He ALWAYS stinks at Preseason games and practices, but steps up once the Regular Season starts. I think it's because the pressure to succeed is greater where there's an actual game and/or Playoff spots at stake, as opposed to Exhibition games and practice, which is more about getting warmed up and prepped for the actual season than victory or defeat.

If the Jets want to get more out of Tebow in practice, they've got to convince him that there is actually something worth fighting for during the Preseason. For instance, threaten to kick him off the team if he doesn't beat out Mark Sanchez for Starting QB before Week 1. Have his parents tell him they'll get a divorce if he loses a Preseason game.

Tebow's at his best when his back is to the wall and defeat is all but a reality. If you could get that pressure on him now, it will do wonders for him.


Yeah... the Jets need to figure out how to prove their value to Tebow. Otherwise, he might take his talents to South Beach.
 
2012-05-26 12:52:52 AM  
Dude just wants to play footballl. Shut up
 
2012-05-26 10:40:28 AM  

karmaceutical: Yeah... the Jets need to figure out how to prove their value to Tebow. Otherwise, he might take his talents to South Beach.


The Jets proved themselves when they offered a 4th rounder when only one other team would do even that much.
 
2012-05-26 12:50:52 PM  

farbekrieg: someone is likely dumb enough to give him a chance.


Yeah the Broncos were so dumb to start him they got a playoff win out of it. farkin dumbasses right?
 
2012-05-26 01:02:34 PM  

libranoelrose: Move the goalposts much?



I didn't move any goal posts. It was his first full season starting, he performed well. You all are the ones moving the goal posts. When his team won, it was because of everyone else. When they lost, it was him playing horribly as he always does. That's moving goal posts.
 
rka
2012-05-26 01:12:27 PM  

MayoSlather: rka: MayoSlather: Tebow seems like a great option to have for trick plays

The value of a trick play is greatly lessened when Tebow himself is the giveaway that it's a trick play.

The value he had last year was that he took every snap and you didn't *know* when he'd chuck it, run with it or hand it off.

You put Sanchez *and* Tebow on the field at the same time? Oh gee, I wonder who's going to get the ball 95% of the time?

Well you run him at TE enough in standard formations and you will have to guess.


So you're basically going to line up with 10 players as you decoy away from Tebow in the hopes of setting up that one play in the 4th quarter? And where has it been shown that Tebow can even catch a pass? One crossing route where Sanchez "accidentally" leads him a bit too far over the middle and *WHAM!*. Backup QB controversy over.

Trick plays, with trick/gimmicky "special package" players don't work in the NFL. You either line him up as an every down player or he's wasted.
 
2012-05-26 01:33:53 PM  
Tim Tebow = white Kordell Stewart

Same kind of player, same situation, only Tebow is not as of yet confirmed to have teh ghey.
 
2012-05-26 07:08:25 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Dude just wants to play footballl. Shut up


Maybe some day he'll start doing it.
 
2012-05-26 07:32:01 PM  

SharkTrager: Maybe some day he'll start doing it.


Yeah cause Romo's stat line looks good on paper, but they've won the same amount of playoff games. It just didn't take Tebow damn near a decade in the league to get one.
 
2012-05-26 09:11:01 PM  

bel4sucks: SharkTrager: Maybe some day he'll start doing it.

Yeah cause Romo's stat line looks good on paper, but they've won the same amount of playoff games. It just didn't take Tebow damn near a decade in the league to get one.


Yeah, because one playoff win against an over the hill Steeler team means he's a great player.
 
2012-05-26 11:16:13 PM  

bel4sucks: SharkTrager: Maybe some day he'll start doing it.

Yeah cause Romo's stat line looks good on paper, but they've won the same amount of playoff games. It just didn't take Tebow damn near a decade in the league to get one.


Romo brings the lulz as hard as any player ever.
 
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