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2012-05-25 09:16:07 AM
We hope...
 
2012-05-25 09:17:03 AM
He's cutting spending on socialist federal programs, but it's a Friday so he's a tax-and-spend Democrat, right?
 
2012-05-25 09:20:53 AM

Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: He's cutting spending on socialist federal programs, but it's a Friday so he's a tax-and-spend Democrat, right?


I think Fridays mean Obama is history's greatest monster.
 
2012-05-25 09:22:21 AM
The military could survive a 50% cut in its budgets and still be the most powerful military in the world.

It's disgusting that things like heating assistance for the elderly and programs for the poor get dragged onto to the chopping block before the bloated defense budgets are even considered for cuts.

it's even more disgusting there is a whole political party in this country that gleefully wants to gut social programs and fights tooth and nail for defense contractors and corporations.
 
2012-05-25 09:23:18 AM

LarryDan43: Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: He's cutting spending on socialist federal programs, but it's a Friday so he's a tax-and-spend Democrat, right?

I think Fridays mean Obama is history's greatest monster.


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He's been replaced.
 
2012-05-25 09:30:34 AM
Rational through: We really don't need a standing military large enough to fight 2 ongoing wars anymore do we. We also have that budget issue you guys keep on talking about.

GOP thought: When we said cut spending we meant for poor and starving children, elderly, and single moms. FARTBAMA is weak on national defense and we're all going to die.

/It is completely situational, but isn't it ironic that Obama cut more governement jobs than any of his predecessors? SHOSH!LUST!
 
2012-05-25 09:31:23 AM
Wow, a campaign promise. You can take that to the bank.
 
2012-05-25 09:34:44 AM

TheGogmagog: Wow, a campaign promise. You can take that to the bank.


Assuming that bank doesn't allow deposits or withdrawals or loans for congressional republicans.... yes.
 
2012-05-25 09:35:48 AM
But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.
 
2012-05-25 09:39:17 AM
Subby should write for Leno's Twitter account.
 
2012-05-25 09:42:37 AM
With this administration we do not need a strong, financially stable military....at the first sign of trouble Leon Panetta will play the submissive dog by rolling over and squirting urine all over himself.
 
2012-05-25 09:43:26 AM

karnal: With this administration we do not need a strong, financially stable military....at the first sign of trouble Leon Panetta will play the submissive dog by rolling over and squirting urine all over himself.


Rule #34 in play
 
2012-05-25 09:43:53 AM

Altair: Subby should write for Leno's Twitter account.


Q: Why did the chicken cross the playground?
A: To get to the other slide!

Jay Leno: Wakka Wakka!
 
2012-05-25 09:47:13 AM
Whatever happened with the "fiscal conservative" Tea Bagger that kept on trying to get a hundreds of millions east coast missle defense system approved in the budget? Even though all of our generals said it was idiotic, unecessary, redundant, and wouldn't work? He was keeping up his campaign promises to stop that pork barrel spending, because in the GOP's eyes the military industrial complex =/= wasteful government spending, crony capitalism, or anything else those other liberals are doing.
 
2012-05-25 09:47:48 AM

karnal: With this administration we do not need a strong, financially stable military....at the first sign of trouble Leon Panetta will play the submissive dog by rolling over and squirting urine all over himself.


Shame for you that Panetta farking begged the super committee to come up with something so the auto cuts could be avoided. Too bad republicans love millionaires more than they love the military.
 
2012-05-25 09:48:15 AM
What? Fartbongo is not a military Keynesian? WHAR spending, Obama?! WHAR!?
 
2012-05-25 09:48:17 AM
I am guessing a certain troll complained about my picture.

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2012-05-25 09:49:27 AM

DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.


Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.
 
2012-05-25 09:49:57 AM

keylock71: It's disgusting that things like heating assistance for the elderly and programs for the poor get dragged onto to the chopping block before the bloated defense budgets are even considered for cuts.


Perhaps because they are barely constitutional in the first place? Not that we're supposed to have a standing army, either, but I digress...
 
2012-05-25 09:50:58 AM

Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.


You make it sound like beer isn't part of a nutritious breakfast.
 
2012-05-25 09:51:08 AM
The military is a socialist jobs training program.

Think about it for a minute. You can join up and learn skills that you can later sell in the real world, such as various types of mechanics, heavy equipment operators, technicians in various fields.
 
2012-05-25 09:53:05 AM

Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.


Or we could just not spend the extra money and let those people go into the private sector.
 
2012-05-25 09:53:28 AM

wildcardjack: The military is a socialist jobs training program.

Think about it for a minute. You can join up and learn skills that you can later sell in the real world, such as various types of mechanics, heavy equipment operators, technicians in various fields.


security clearance itself is worth 100k
 
2012-05-25 09:54:26 AM

derpdeederp: Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.

Or we could just not spend the extra money and let those people go into the private sector.


Or we could spend half the money and raise taxes.
 
2012-05-25 09:54:48 AM

wildcardjack: The military is a socialist jobs training program.

Think about it for a minute. You can join up and learn skills that you can later sell in the real world, such as various types of mechanics, heavy equipment operators, technicians in various fields.


While I agree with you, it's also a socialist jobs training LOTTERY program. Sure, we'll get you training out the ass, just don't step on that IED!

//if the lottery is a tax for poor people, the military is a tax for people who enjoy life too much, like not studying in high school and racing their Camaros while high on VCR cleaning fluid.
 
2012-05-25 09:55:36 AM
If I was a serviceman I'd be disgusted at Obama for taking away my opportunity, nay my right, to sacrifice my life for Haliburton's profits.
 
2012-05-25 09:55:48 AM

derpdeederp: Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.

Or we could just not spend the extra money and let those people go into the private sector.


Nothing like a glut of (low-end estimate) a million new workers to enter the workforce at 8% unemployment to really buoy a sagging economy, right?
 
2012-05-25 09:55:53 AM

wildcardjack: Think about it for a minute. You can join up and learn skills that you can later sell in the real world, such as various types of mechanics, heavy equipment operators, technicians in various fields.


Yup. Then you come back from the war and wonder why you could be trusted to drive multimillion dollar piece of machinery there but stateside they won't let you do anything above "fry cook". Some good that training does for you.
 
2012-05-25 09:56:03 AM

LarryDan43: Terrified Asexual Forcemeat: He's cutting spending on socialist federal programs, but it's a Friday so he's a tax-and-spend Democrat, right?

I think Fridays mean Obama is history's greatest monster.


I've heard he wants to get rid of Friday altogether as people keep thanking God for them, and not Allah. Or maybe it's because he's a Socialist and doesn't believe in God. I get my talking points confused, and will have to check the email my father forwarded me.
 
2012-05-25 09:56:10 AM

TrollingForColumbine: derpdeederp: Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.

Or we could just not spend the extra money and let those people go into the private sector.

Or we could spend half the money and raise taxes.


On the poor and middle class...

/deeeeeeerp
 
2012-05-25 09:56:44 AM

TrollingForColumbine: wildcardjack: The military is a socialist jobs training program.

Think about it for a minute. You can join up and learn skills that you can later sell in the real world, such as various types of mechanics, heavy equipment operators, technicians in various fields.

security clearance itself is worth 100k


On the black market maybe. Buddy who is FSO in the Middle East said his cost about $20,000. The average infantryman has one that costs 5 times more?
 
2012-05-25 09:57:33 AM
If you think cuts to our bloated military are a Democrats vs. Republicans issue you are naive.

It's all about protecting your district and its base, contractor or whatever connection it has to that money spout. Keeping your district out of the proposed cuts usually involves political maneuvering, insider deals, paybacks and lobbying influence at its worst.

It's not dems vs. thems, it's pork vs. pork.
 
2012-05-25 09:58:21 AM

Shaggy_C: wildcardjack: Think about it for a minute. You can join up and learn skills that you can later sell in the real world, such as various types of mechanics, heavy equipment operators, technicians in various fields.

Yup. Then you come back from the war and wonder why you could be trusted to drive multimillion dollar piece of machinery there but stateside they won't let you do anything above "fry cook". Some good that training does for you.


Yes, because that is the statistical median of military experience - fry cook. Look, I like First Blood as much as the next guy, I'm just not basing my entire perspective on one experience.
 
2012-05-25 09:59:03 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.

You make it sound like beer isn't part of a nutritious breakfast.


Hard Cider is my breakfast beer. It's the apple juice of champions.
 
2012-05-25 09:59:12 AM

Dr Dreidel: derpdeederp: Notabunny: DeaH: But feel confident that your congress will fight to keep planes the DOD says are unnecessary, unsafe, and outmoded.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we used all that knowledge, training, experience and infrastructure to build something we need, instead? Like windmills, or solar panels, or bridges, or schools, or something crazy like that. Mmmm... breakfast beer.

Or we could just not spend the extra money and let those people go into the private sector.

Nothing like a glut of (low-end estimate) a million new workers to enter the workforce at 8% unemployment to really buoy a sagging economy, right?


No no, all wrong. We discharge them from the military but refuse to ship them home. So when more of our jobs get outsourced by freedom-loving republicans to whichever country they are off dodging bullets in, those ex-servicemen will be more likely to get jobs then if they had come home!
 
2012-05-25 10:00:13 AM

Cletus C.: If you think cuts to our bloated military are a Democrats vs. Republicans issue you are naive.

It's all about protecting your district and its base, contractor or whatever connection it has to that money spout. Keeping your district out of the proposed cuts usually involves political maneuvering, insider deals, paybacks and lobbying influence at its worst.

It's not dems vs. thems, it's pork vs. pork.


I.E., BSABSVR. C'mon Cletus, I beg you, please apply to Politifact, you are totally inline with their false equivalency philosophy.
 
2012-05-25 10:02:25 AM

keylock71: The military could survive a 50% cut in its budgets and still be the most powerful military in the world.


Over the long term yes, no organization can withstand a 50% budget cut due to long term contracts, pensions, etc, which they would be forced to break. Laying off workers, even military takes time and money.
 
2012-05-25 10:04:27 AM
Oh please, like actively-serving members see more returns from $643 billion a year than more crap to carry around on a patrol, that some contractor decided was "essential" and ran through the halls of the Pentagon and Capitol shiatting money to get enough people to agree. That'll probably get him or her killed to try to use because it's an overpriced, overengineered, deficient piece of shiat that entered service obsolete with the intent to fight China or Russia "conventionally" and in the end anything but Durka al-Hamala with his AK-47 and handy IED.

That is, as long as they're actually in the service before leaving when their term is up and joining a PMC or contractor for the real fun and profit.
 
2012-05-25 10:05:29 AM

coeyagi: Yes, because that is the statistical median of military experience - fry cook. Look, I like First Blood as much as the next guy, I'm just not basing my entire perspective on one experience.


Well let's put it this way - if your own kid had the choice of going to college or going to the military, which would you choose?
 
2012-05-25 10:07:22 AM
But why take that risk, when we can just kill off all the old people and our budget problems would disappear.
 
2012-05-25 10:07:59 AM

karnal: Leon Panetta will play the submissive dog by rolling over and squirting urine all over himself.


You'd like that, wouldn't you?
 
2012-05-25 10:08:15 AM
John McCain and Republicans upset that Iraq war is not going to be 100 years and Iran will not be bombed.

/Vote Republican
 
2012-05-25 10:08:55 AM

Shaggy_C: coeyagi: Yes, because that is the statistical median of military experience - fry cook. Look, I like First Blood as much as the next guy, I'm just not basing my entire perspective on one experience.

Well let's put it this way - if your own kid had the choice of going to college or going to the military, which would you choose?


In the case of both my brother and my grandfather, both. Not at the same time, mind, but they both completed college, and both served.

I'm sorry, you were saying something stupid. Do go on.
 
2012-05-25 10:09:33 AM

Cletus C.: If you think cuts to our bloated military are a Democrats vs. Republicans issue you are naive.

It's all about protecting your district and its base, contractor or whatever connection it has to that money spout. Keeping your district out of the proposed cuts usually involves political maneuvering, insider deals, paybacks and lobbying influence at its worst.

It's not dems vs. thems, it's pork vs. pork.


Yes, it's that incredibly Democratic House Speaker who went to the military and said they will get more funding and like it.
 
2012-05-25 10:10:12 AM

karnal: With this administration we do not need a strong, financially stable military....at the first sign of trouble Leon Panetta will play the submissive dog by rolling over and squirting urine all over himself.


Your definition of a "financially stable" military is one that we have to borrow money to fund?
 
2012-05-25 10:11:42 AM
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb
Bomb, Bomb Iran

/Some of you thought that was funny as Hell four years ago.
 
2012-05-25 10:12:32 AM

Dr Dreidel: Shaggy_C: coeyagi: Yes, because that is the statistical median of military experience - fry cook. Look, I like First Blood as much as the next guy, I'm just not basing my entire perspective on one experience.

Well let's put it this way - if your own kid had the choice of going to college or going to the military, which would you choose?

In the case of both my brother and my grandfather, both. Not at the same time, mind, but they both completed college, and both served.

I'm sorry, you were saying something stupid. Do go on.


I think he meant the choice between going to college, being ineligible from the draft while in college, or joining the military and getting immediate training and pay, but risking getting your ass blown off in some raid to secure an oil deal.
 
2012-05-25 10:13:55 AM

Shaggy_C: Well let's put it this way - if your own kid had the choice of going to college or going to the military, which would you choose?


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Military.
 
2012-05-25 10:17:16 AM

Epoch_Zero: Dr Dreidel: Shaggy_C: coeyagi: Yes, because that is the statistical median of military experience - fry cook. Look, I like First Blood as much as the next guy, I'm just not basing my entire perspective on one experience.

Well let's put it this way - if your own kid had the choice of going to college or going to the military, which would you choose?

In the case of both my brother and my grandfather, both. Not at the same time, mind, but they both completed college, and both served.

I'm sorry, you were saying something stupid. Do go on.

I think he meant the choice between going to college, being ineligible from the draft while in college, or joining the military and getting immediate training and pay, but risking getting your ass blown off in some raid to secure an oil deal.


Well, that that would mean my brother'd have had a devil of a time getting into ROTC while in college. My grandfather (I think) signed up after he finished college but before he would likely have gotten drafted anyway (1942ish).

I'm also fairly certain that there are online or correspondence college/university-level classes available to the military. Maybe not while in theater, but anyone with an internet connection or the right book and a stamp or 6 can "take" a college class.

It's a silly thing to have claimed.
 
2012-05-25 10:18:48 AM

Dr Dreidel: I'm sorry, you were saying something stupid. Do go on.


My point was that in terms of "socialist job training facilities" the military isn't exactly the ideal scenario. The cost greatly outweighs the benefit.
 
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