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2012-05-25 10:27:56 AM

gulogulo: MycroftHolmes: The use of the F word was specifically included due to it's offensive nature and ability to generate reaction. I doubt that anyone got past the language to really worry too much about the message. I guarantee you if she had worn a shirt that said 'If I wanted the government in my womb, I would have had a senator's kid', there would have been no reaction.

True...but is the offensive language (fark on a t-shirt) unilaterally enforced by American Airlines? I have seen people getting on their planes with these kinds of shirts, and I fly pretty regularly.


I imagine it would largely depend on whether or not the shirt was noticed or commented on. If you can provide me evidence that this crew ignored other offensive shirts and singled this one out, you would have a valid argument. My understanding is that these calls are usually left to the discretion of the flight crew.
 
2012-05-25 10:28:30 AM

Priapetic: Oh, I see. All you care about is the message, not the appropriateness of the venue. As long as the message is about an issue you believe in, spreading it is more important than being considerate to others. Got it. So, when are you due back at the Westboro Baptist Church to protest some funerals?


So when are you going back to spraying kids with fire hoses for not protesting in the 'appropriate venue'?

See, hyperbole cuts both ways.
 
2012-05-25 10:29:10 AM

MycroftHolmes: Not sure how this contradicts the stand that the F word was specifically chosen due to its offensive and attention grabbing nature. If anything, you have reinforced that it was an effective slogan specifically because people found it offensive and provocative.


One girl knew where political speech was appropriate, one didn't. A ratio much more favorable than the one in this thread.
 
2012-05-25 10:29:30 AM

MadAzza: SoxSweepAgain: You should be able to wear a shirt that says "fark you you farking fark" and still board public transport which is what airliners effectively are.


They might, in a way, "effectively" be public transport, in some way, but in fact, they are not, and that is an important distinction.

Further, if she wore that T-shirt to a court appearance, I don't doubt that the judge would kick her out, too. A court is a public place, is it not? But the judge is in charge, as is the captain of an airliner.

I don't know why some people can't express themselves in public without loudly cursing (and that's what wearing the f-word on a T-shirt is the equivalent of). It's really a junior-high mentality. "Ooh, lookie, I'm using bad words! Look at me! LOOK AT ME!"

I had the "F*ck you you f*cking f*ck" T-shirt, but never wore it except under another shirt. I'm past trying to shock people, I guess. I'm not a 14-year-old boy.


Haha look at me you guys I wore a shirt with a swear word on it underneath another shirt. Watch out my legitimacy is so farking huge right now. Might injure an eye. Youve been notified.
 
2012-05-25 10:31:22 AM
Woman kept off plane for failing biology
 
2012-05-25 10:31:27 AM

SoxSweepAgain: You should be able to wear a shirt that says "fark you you farking fark" and still board public transport which is what airliners effectively are.

Stupid/asinine.


It's funny how people don't know the difference between public (government owned) and private entities and how your amendment rights don't apply on private property.

When YOU own your own airline you can let all the naughty worded t-shirts in that you want.
 
2012-05-25 10:31:47 AM

I sound fat: The woman KNEW that she was wearing a word that is not acceptable in public in this society.


Then why do I hear it every farking day, on the subway, in the supermarket, at the dog park, really it's everywhere and people are actually doing it everywhere, worldwide.

It's a poor word to be throwing about casually, and denotes a certain coarseness of character to use it repeatedly, but to say it's "not acceptable" is a joke. Yes, it can't be broadcast over the public airwaves per FCC rule, but that doesn't mean it can't be uttered in conversation, nor worn on a shirt.

If the shirt had said "... I'd have sexual congress with a Senator", the meaning is exactly the same, but because the phonemes are not the "dirty" ones, it's OK, right?

Same for "fecal matter"'s most common homonym (which, ridiculously, has to be bowdlerized on this very forum): shiat.

We speak English, here, the bastard child of Anglo-Saxon and French parents, which incorporates more things for its own purposes than the Catholic Church ever did. "Shiat" was the correct term for much of the history of the language! It's a perfectly cromulent word! But somehow, the word is "dirty", while "poo", "kaka", "number two", "feces", "excrement", "crap", and any number of other euphemisms are A-OK!

It's retarded. What a nation of ignorant morans we are.
 
2012-05-25 10:32:13 AM

gulogulo: So when are you going back to spraying kids with fire hoses for not protesting in the 'appropriate venue'?


Who says I stopped?
 
2012-05-25 10:32:50 AM

The Muthaship: One girl knew where political speech was appropriate, one didn't. A ratio much more favorable than the one in this thread.


Bingo. We have a winner.
 
2012-05-25 10:35:09 AM

Priapetic: The Muthaship: One girl knew where political speech was appropriate, one didn't. A ratio much more favorable than the one in this thread.

Bingo. We have a winner.


You realize that argument has been used ad nauseum over the years to keep the lid on certain political movements, right?

"You can't say that here, go say it over there where there's less chance of people noticing you."
 
2012-05-25 10:35:33 AM

Deucednuisance: If the shirt had said "... I'd have sexual congress with a Senator", the meaning is exactly the same, but because the phonemes are not the "dirty" ones, it's OK, right?


It would be less crude and more clever, because "congress" would be a pun.
 
2012-05-25 10:36:25 AM

RoyBatty:
If a mall kicks you out of the mall because of that shirt, I will be concerned because malls are becoming and eliminating the public street corner. If an airplane, restaurant, church, hospital kicks you out because of that shirt, that is not control of our speech.

My understanding is that malls used to win in these court cases, but are now beginning to lose as the courts begin to realize that defacto, the mall is the public street corner.


Have there been any successful cases against malls for disarming the law-abiding?
 
2012-05-25 10:36:39 AM

Deucednuisance: Then why do I hear it every farking day, on the subway, in the supermarket, at the dog park, really it's everywhere and people are actually doing it everywhere, worldwide.


Bingo!
 
2012-05-25 10:41:12 AM
Its quite amazing how dense some of you are. Thinking a private businesses can't refuse service to obnoxious customers. I'm willing to bet there are a many number of businesses in your city that would refuse service to someone wearing a t-shirt with the word fark prominently placed on it. The woman made this a political issue not the airline. I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."
 
2012-05-25 10:44:47 AM
So trolls getting the banhammer on Fark = Good

Attention Whore refusing to stop attention whoring and getting called on it by a privately owned entity = bad

Just trying to keep up with the cognitive dissonance.
 
2012-05-25 10:46:12 AM

gulogulo: Deucednuisance: Then why do I hear it every farking day, on the subway, in the supermarket, at the dog park, really it's everywhere and people are actually doing it everywhere, worldwide.

Bingo!


ain't no trash like good old fashioned white trash
 
2012-05-25 10:46:59 AM

RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."


Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.
 
2012-05-25 10:47:52 AM

gulogulo: Priapetic: The Muthaship: One girl knew where political speech was appropriate, one didn't. A ratio much more favorable than the one in this thread.

Bingo. We have a winner.

You realize that argument has been used ad nauseum over the years to keep the lid on certain political movements, right?

"You can't say that here, go say it over there where there's less chance of people noticing you."


So? It's a perfectly sound argument, relevant and applicable in most social situations. Has it been misused? Sure. But that doesn't mean the argument itself is invalid.
 
2012-05-25 10:48:34 AM

SweetSilverBlues: So trolls getting the banhammer on Fark = Good


Wait wait wait. What if the attention whore on fark is showing tits, is it cool then?

Cognitive dissonance indeed!
 
2012-05-25 10:50:33 AM

SweetSilverBlues: So trolls getting the banhammer on Fark = Good

Attention Whore refusing to stop attention whoring and getting called on it by a privately owned entity = bad

Just trying to keep up with the cognitive dissonance.


I should really just post a pic of a naked woman getting shiat smeared on her body with an enormous dildo hanging out of her ass right here in the middle of the thread. Then you'd see the same people who are defending this airline woman start working themselves into a lather over the fact that it's NSFW, I'm wrong for posting it, and it should be removed immediately. They'll then try to explain how the word "fark" on her shirt is okay in public, but this is different, and it will be all sorts of entertaining.
 
2012-05-25 10:51:11 AM

gulogulo: RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."

Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.


constitutionally speaking, not a damn thing.

You know what sort of people who walk around with swear words on their tshirts? Low class idiots, that's who.
 
2012-05-25 10:51:26 AM

gulogulo: RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."

Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.


So you contention is that the f word is not, by standards of the general community, considered to be offensive? Or are you being deliberately disingenuous?
 
2012-05-25 10:52:17 AM

Priapetic: It's a perfectly sound argument, relevant and applicable in most social situations.


Of course it is...to the people who don't agree with your argument. It's always sound to tell them to go somewhere else.
 
2012-05-25 10:55:29 AM
Odd to see FARK's conservatard brigade take the nanny-state, political-correctness side of the debate. Airplanes make people act weird.
 
2012-05-25 10:55:50 AM
FAA Accident Liability Checklist
===========================
1) Find the black box
2) Search debris for signs of explosive residue
3) Intensive Background Checks on the Pilots
4) Find out what t-shirts the passengers were wearing
5) Search surrounding area for possible attack points from the ground
 
2012-05-25 10:56:00 AM

SweetSilverBlues: So trolls getting the banhammer on Fark = Good


When did I ever say that? That's what the ignore list is for. I don't care how long the trolls stay, really.
 
2012-05-25 10:56:01 AM

gulogulo: RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."

Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.


Pure BS and you know it. If her goal had been to convey "slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity", there are literally thousands of other slang words and phrases from which she could choose. But she didn't. She chose one that was calculated to cause offensiveness to the reader. That goal is the same in direction (but less in intensity and with a different legal status) as the use of a racial epithet. So, it is a valid comparison. Even though one is offensive slang and one is a racial epithet, both spring from the same well - a desire to cause offense in others.
 
2012-05-25 10:56:07 AM

MycroftHolmes: So you contention is that the f word is not, by standards of the general community, considered to be offensive?


No I agree that it's offensive to some in the community. I think it's pretty stupid that a word synonymous for sex would suddenly constitute a 'safety' issue and require this level of reaction from the airline. Feel free to think she's trashy for wearing it. Form whatever opinion you like about her, but when we say we can't have things like that in our line of sight for fear of 'safety'..it's getting pretty absurd, don't you think?
 
2012-05-25 10:56:48 AM
It's ok when corporations tell us what we can and can't say because Capitalism. It's not ok when the government tells us what we can and can't say because SOCIALIST FASCIST MARXIST NAZIS!
 
2012-05-25 10:58:14 AM

Deucednuisance: But somehow, the word is "dirty", while "poo", "kaka", "number two", "feces", "excrement", "crap", and any number of other euphemisms are A-OK!

It's retarded. What a nation of ignorant morans we are.


Are you this thick? These words wouldn't be fun to use if everyone used them as equal. Are you really trying so hard to spoil that fun and just make the offensive words become regular words? Fluck off!
 
2012-05-25 10:59:48 AM

skullkrusher: gulogulo: RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."

Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.

constitutionally speaking, not a damn thing.

You know what sort of people who walk around with swear words on their tshirts? Low class idiots, that's who.



I'm not speaking constitutionally, and yeah, I don't particularly like shirts with swear words on it myself. Or provocatively dressed women on shirts. Or blood. Hell, I find advertising on shirts to be offensive. I find BAND t-shirts to be pretty trashy too. And I'm allowed to sit there and think "yeah, that's trashy." However, when I feel the need to have other people remove the 'trashiness' from my sight, then it's me that has the problem, not that person.
 
2012-05-25 10:59:48 AM
Dark Mods are working for airlines now?
 
2012-05-25 11:01:07 AM

zarberg: It's ok when corporations tell us what we can and can't say because Capitalism.


No, it's OK because of Private Property Rights. The same rights that prevent me from walking into your kitchen and swearing at you while you eat your cornflakes. But nice try at a Capitalism red herring. Too bad it's not applicable here.
 
2012-05-25 11:02:21 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: Silly little bitty - you don't get farked in your womb - that would be painful! Please, take some anatomy classes.


Yep and semen never gets into the womb from farking either right? Way to be way too uptight about the wording that doesn't even actually say what you're suggesting it does.
 
2012-05-25 11:02:33 AM

Spaz-master: Dark Mods are working for airlines now?


This unintentional racist remark offends my tender sensibilities and I demand this poster be removed permanently, before the poor innocent children are exposed to his offensiveness!
 
2012-05-25 11:02:43 AM

Priapetic: zarberg: It's ok when corporations tell us what we can and can't say because Capitalism.

No, it's OK because of Private Property Rights. The same rights that prevent me from walking into your kitchen and swearing at you while you eat your cornflakes. But nice try at a Capitalism red herring. Too bad it's not applicable here.


So your kitchen is a corporation regulated by the government?

Nice try at an argument, but ...

No, shiatty try at an argument.
 
2012-05-25 11:02:59 AM
I find the word R word much much more offensive than the F word.
 
2012-05-25 11:05:06 AM

gulogulo: skullkrusher: gulogulo: RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."

Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.

constitutionally speaking, not a damn thing.

You know what sort of people who walk around with swear words on their tshirts? Low class idiots, that's who.


I'm not speaking constitutionally, and yeah, I don't particularly like shirts with swear words on it myself. Or provocatively dressed women on shirts. Or blood. Hell, I find advertising on shirts to be offensive. I find BAND t-shirts to be pretty trashy too. And I'm allowed to sit there and think "yeah, that's trashy." However, when I feel the need to have other people remove the 'trashiness' from my sight, then it's me that has the problem, not that person.


riding the subway with that shirt, ok. Flying a plane? Subject to the airline's discretion.

Much like cursing your head off in a park will get you some dirty looks but you won't be asked to leave but doing the same in a restaurant would probably result in a warning and possible removal.
 
2012-05-25 11:05:59 AM

gulogulo: RelativeEase: I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."

Someone else who doesn't understand the different between an racial epithet used out of hate and a expletive which is slang for something that's a lot of fun and is a universally culturally acceptable activity!

That said, I agree that the plane is within their right to do this. I just disagree with the fact that they did it.


Someone else who doesn't understand that its not their personal moral code which the airline must abide by. and who says the racial epithet is used out of hate. Maybe the guy has no hate at all but just wants attention, maybe its some sort of political message against the proliferation of abortion among the black community. the N word is just slang for a group of people who are a lot of fun. Your trying to decipher what is offensive to society and claim that the F word isnt offensive. Well it isnt offensive to me I dont care if my 5 year old sees it on some dumb c*ntz tshirt either. But the airline has their own rules and the fact that the F word isnt allowed on TV is pretty damn good evidence that its offensive to a lot of people.
 
2012-05-25 11:06:06 AM
The message is immaterial. The airline may actually agree wholeheartedly with the message the shirt conveys. But, it doesn't matter. Businesses that depend on patronage from the broad spectrum of the population avoid the controversial message business carefully. They want an environment on their planes that is as benign as possible. They don't want to lose customers because their airplanes are used as forums for controversial statements of any kind. If people are uncomfortable on one airline, they often don't say a word, they just don't fly on it again. The airline is a business, and it has a legitimate business interest in prohibiting things that might hurt its bottom line. Customers quietly walking away is such a thing.
 
2012-05-25 11:06:08 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Odd to see FARK's conservatard brigade take the nanny-state, political-correctness side of the debate. Airplanes make people act weird.


except a private airline isn't the "nanny-state" but you've never been right yet, why break the streak?
 
2012-05-25 11:08:45 AM

MadAzza: optikeye: She's an AW. She covered the shirt and was allowed on at her next connecting flight.
The only failure was them lecturing her to cause her to miss one flight, but she sounds kinda dense and not willing to take "no" for an answer.

There was no "lecture" that caused her to miss her flight. She wouldn't stop whining and yapping and AWing, and ran out of time to make the next flight.

I, too, agree with her message. (And with most of your post, btw.) But she's a classless jerk for refusing to turn the shirt inside-out, as requested (according to a news story I'm too lazy to look up; this story is three days old), or simply cover it with her shawl. Or, hey, how about not wearing it in the first place?

And yes, the captain is in charge. He or she can remove anyone, passenger or crew member, from the flight. My ex-husband, a captain for one of the top 10 airlines, once kicked the first officer (aka "co-pilot") off the plane for wearing something offensive. Ya rly.

Anyone who thinks this is a First Amendment issue is pathetically misinformed, as are most people who whine about so-called First Amendment violations (e.g., many Farkers).


So, you're admittedly too lazy to look up what happened, but know with exact detail that she was whining and classless and wrong. It was all her fault because she was whiny. That must be right, because it feels right you, right?

Let me guess, you're also a lawyer and constitutional scholar, so you can speak with even more authority than a supreme court justice about what is and isn't a first amendment right?

Here's a justice flipping you off.

...and yes, I realize the onion is a parody site and that isn't real news.
 
2012-05-25 11:09:31 AM

RelativeEase: the fact that the F word isnt allowed on TV is pretty damn good evidence that its offensive to a lot of people America's priorities are pretty farked up.


You can show someone getting their head taken off by a buzzsaw on TV, but he better not say a curse-word!
 
2012-05-25 11:09:45 AM

RelativeEase: Its quite amazing how dense some of you are. Thinking a private businesses can't refuse service to obnoxious customers. I'm willing to bet there are a many number of businesses in your city that would refuse service to someone wearing a t-shirt with the word fark prominently placed on it. The woman made this a political issue not the airline. I'm sure you'd all be outraged if some guy was refused to ride the plane for wearing a shirt that said:

"the only good n***er is a dead n***er."


In before nagging apologists
 
2012-05-25 11:10:20 AM

zarberg: It's ok when corporations tell us what we can and can't say because we can choose not to do business with corporations and corporations can't imprison us or tax us>. It's not ok when the government tells us what we can and can't say because it violates the principles of natural law and our consitution



FIFY

This really isnt a hard concept to grasp. How old are some of you? I hope you don't make arguments like this in school.
 
2012-05-25 11:12:30 AM

footshot: MadAzza: And yes, the captain is in charge. He or she can remove anyone, passenger or crew member, from the flight. My ex-husband, a captain for one of the top 10 airlines, once kicked the first officer (aka "co-pilot") off the plane for wearing something offensive. Ya rly.

So your ex-husband is some kind of a control freak? What the hell difference does it make what the 1st office wears if he or she is tucked away out of sight?

Although the ones I see are airports most often in uniforms, I don't care if the crew are cross dressing nazis in sombreros, so long as they can still fly the plane :)


Of course a captain is a "control freak." All captains are "control freaks" and I'm glad they are. It's been a concept that's only been around for centuries. You wanna know why? If someone starts acting unruly and threatening the safety of others on a plane or a ship, they just can't pull off to the side of the road and kick you off (or let everyone else get away from you). it's going to be AT LEAST a half hour before any form of civil authority can come to address the situation. So we give these guys very WIDE latitude to control what goes on within the confines of their ship. And, no, the system doesn't work very well if we let you decide what orders you think are silly and which ones you are willing to obey. Short of them asking you to do something illegal, society expects that you will subject to their rules until you're off the ship. You don't like it? Don't get on a ship you don't captain.
 
2012-05-25 11:12:31 AM

gulogulo: MycroftHolmes: So you contention is that the f word is not, by standards of the general community, considered to be offensive?

No I agree that it's offensive to some in the community. I think it's pretty stupid that a word synonymous for sex would suddenly constitute a 'safety' issue and require this level of reaction from the airline. Feel free to think she's trashy for wearing it. Form whatever opinion you like about her, but when we say we can't have things like that in our line of sight for fear of 'safety'..it's getting pretty absurd, don't you think?


Ahh, so you acknowledge that it is offensive and deliberately provocative. Your only issue is on the questioning the judgement of the person who is unilaterally responsible for the safety of all passengers. So, in his mind he is thinking ;Here is a person about to get in my tin can full of people that I am about to take up to 30,000 feet, where there is no help, no support, and no exit. She is doing something deliberately inflammatory and provocative. In my judgement, would it be safer for her to stop doing that?'

You have the luxury of second guessing and criticizing,as there is zero consequence for you being wrong. You are entitled to you opinion, I believe that your opinion would be slightly different if you were in the worry seat and accountable for the safety of everyone in the airplane.

Whether or not I agree that there was a safety issue, I agree that there was enough of an issue not to second guess the man who, unlike you or me, is responsible for the plane and everyone in it.
 
2012-05-25 11:14:01 AM

RelativeEase: zarberg: It's ok when corporations tell us what we can and can't say because we can choose not to do business with corporations and corporations can't imprison us or tax us>. It's not ok when the government tells us what we can and can't say because it violates the principles of natural law and our consitution


FIFY

This really isnt a hard concept to grasp. How old are some of you? I hope you don't make arguments like this in school.


Except that companies that are regulated by the government for the express purpose of providing transportation still exist in a world where the government dictates what can and can't be allowed in the name of safety.

If they kicked her off the plane because they found the shirt offensive, that's fine. If they kicked her off the plane for some bull excuse that the shirt was dangerous, that's not fine.
 
2012-05-25 11:14:56 AM

zarberg: Priapetic: zarberg: It's ok when corporations tell us what we can and can't say because Capitalism.

No, it's OK because of Private Property Rights. The same rights that prevent me from walking into your kitchen and swearing at you while you eat your cornflakes. But nice try at a Capitalism red herring. Too bad it's not applicable here.

So your kitchen is a corporation regulated by the government?

Nice try at an argument, but ...

No, shiatty try at an argument.


Well, it's your kitchen, and yes, it is regulated by the government. It (and you) enjoy the protection of a vast body of common law and legislation that allow you to exercise control over what is and is not allowed in your kitchen, and limits what others can do with and to your kitchen. This concept is known as private property rights. Is your kitchen a corporation? I expect not, but form is irrelevant. Is it (and you) subject to regulation? Yes. There is a (much smaller) body of common law and legislation that limits actions you can take in your kitchen that may affect others, or are contrary to the good of the collective.

Under our system, however, the private property rights arise "naturally" and restrictions on those rights have to occur through the action of law. So, unless there are laws requiring the airline to allow people to express their political views, the airlines retain the right to exercise personal property rights.

If you understand this, you'll understand why the argument is applicable.
 
2012-05-25 11:15:32 AM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: RelativeEase: the fact that the F word isnt allowed on TV is pretty damn good evidence that its offensive to a lot of people America's priorities are pretty farked up.

You can show someone getting their head taken off by a buzzsaw on TV, but he better not say a curse-word!


look I agree. But again its not about my personal moral code or yours, its about the airlines policy of wanting to create an atmosphere that is comfortable to all its customers and they have that right, just like all other businesses.
 
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