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2012-05-24 10:48:29 PM

bobbette: MayContainHorseGluten: revrendjim: I have a bottle of shampoo that prominently says "Gluten Free." If eating shampoo is causing you gastrointestinal distress, I guess it's nice to know it's not the gluten.

That's hilarious.

Actually, a lot of shampoos have wheat ingredients and some celiacs really are that sensitive.


The label isnt for celiacs. People with celiac disease won't react unless the consume it. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder, not an allergy, where the body reacts to gluten by, basically, trying to destroy part of the small intestine. People with a wheat allergy that is gluten specific will have a histamine based skin reaction if they touch it.
 
2012-05-24 10:49:29 PM

balisane: The My Little Pony Killer: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

Yeah, but those people are a lot of the reason why people who actually do suffer from celiac disease have an easier time finding food they can actually eat nowadays.


Truth in a small space. My husband has celiac disease, and our lives have been so much easier in the last five years or so.


On the other hand, because it's in vogue, it's still as expensive as ever: just more widely available. As a huge treat, he bought himself a small frozen pizza yesterday: the 8" kind you can get for less than $3 at any grocery store. For him, the gluten-free version: $9.99.


On the third gripping hand, it's probably closer to the actual cost of real, domestic food without fillers or bizarre manufacturing processes, but still: ouch.


FTFM
 
2012-05-24 10:51:10 PM

ace in your face: TommyymmoT: MayContainHorseGluten: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

True, there are many jackasses who go gluten free because they think its a diet. It's not.

That said, the allergy is hugely on the rise. Or rather, the proper diagnoses of it. Now that the tests are easier, and the doctors are better educated about when to look for it, more are finding out they are either all the way celiac or gluten-intolerant.

But it's one allergy/whathaveyou that you don't want. I don't get why anyone would voluntarily avoid gluten, there's plenty who can't have it who'd love to eat it...
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I've wondered about that.
5 years ago, you heard the word "celiac", pretty much never, and now, there are entire supermarket aisles devoted to it.
Same with peanuts. When I was growing up, I didn't know a single person with a peanut allergy, and now, I see signs warning of their presence even more than I used to those signs warning that a microwave was in use.

I am in no way questioning whether these conditions are legit, I'm just wondering why there is such a spike in reported cases.

Might the reason be environmental? Different diagnostics?

Diagnosis. Same reason Autism is up. Plus most of those peanut allergy kids used to just die in the olden days which is why old folks always bullshiat that "they never knew anyone like that in school".


And because of the rising standards of living, people are more inclined to find out why they feel ill, instead of simply trying a family or "traditional" ailment solution. Such as talking to a doctor instead of chugging pepto-bismol or drinking an herbal tea.
 
2012-05-24 10:53:35 PM

MayContainHorseGluten: TommyymmoT: Doesn't eating strictly gluten free food contribute to vitamin deficiencies in normal people?
I don't know, I'm just asking.

No, you're thinking of veganism or something like that. Gluten can come in stuff with nice nutrients (though rarely vitamins) but gluten itself is not really helpful or harmful to the non-gluten-intolerant.


Wheat's protein level kind of sucks without the gluten.
 
2012-05-24 10:58:18 PM
My daughter has Down syndrome. Know what comes along with that at about a 20% rate? Celiac disease. We had her tested and 'potatobingo!' she has it.

Things to watch out for: gluten free baked goods are about 2x the calorie density of wheat based equivalents. Udi's is a godsend. Tinkyada rice pasta? Not perfect, but not bad. Quinoa makes a decent sub for couscous. Our diet, honestly, hasn't changed that much. For the most part, we cook our meals from scratch. It saves a lot of other issues too, considering that when our son ingests red 40 in any quantity and yellow 5 in large quantities, he turns into the Tasmanian Devil.

As for me, something happened when I turned 40 - can't handle corn anymore. I'm not allergic, but a single corn chip will leave me curled up like a boiled shrimp.
 
2012-05-24 10:59:05 PM
Gluten Free

www.dailyfork.com
 
2012-05-24 10:59:54 PM

ace in your face: TommyymmoT:
I am in no way questioning whether these conditions are legit, I'm just wondering why there is such a spike in reported cases.

Might the reason be environmental? Different diagnostics?

Diagnosis. Same reason Autism is up. Plus most of those peanut allergy kids used to just die in the olden days which is why old folks always bullshiat that "they never knew anyone like that in school".

====================

Nah. When I say I didn't know of anybody who had it when I was growing up, I was only referring to the 1970s, not the 1820s, when you either died from accident, or died from fever.
It's not like they couldn't determine exact causes of deaths in 1975.
I went to some fairly large schools from 1st thru 12th grade, and only 2 kids died the whole time. 1 from leukemia, and one from a fire.
It wasn't
 
2012-05-24 11:01:04 PM

knbber2: Because gluten is the stuff that makes chips and snacks delicious.


I like gluten. It makes bread fluffy.
 
2012-05-24 11:01:24 PM

SwiftFox: MayContainHorseGluten: TommyymmoT: Doesn't eating strictly gluten free food contribute to vitamin deficiencies in normal people?
I don't know, I'm just asking.

No, you're thinking of veganism or something like that. Gluten can come in stuff with nice nutrients (though rarely vitamins) but gluten itself is not really helpful or harmful to the non-gluten-intolerant.

Wheat's protein level kind of sucks without the gluten.


Gluten was the principal protein source for the Roman Empire, and hence Western Civilization, which makes it kind of ironic to see white people treating it like poison.
 
2012-05-24 11:02:41 PM

revrendjim: SwiftFox: MayContainHorseGluten: TommyymmoT: Doesn't eating strictly gluten free food contribute to vitamin deficiencies in normal people?
I don't know, I'm just asking.

No, you're thinking of veganism or something like that. Gluten can come in stuff with nice nutrients (though rarely vitamins) but gluten itself is not really helpful or harmful to the non-gluten-intolerant.

Wheat's protein level kind of sucks without the gluten.

Gluten was the principal protein source for the Roman Empire, and hence Western Civilization, which makes it kind of ironic to see white people treating it like poison.


How is it ironic? Most white people are more closely related to the 'barbarians' that brought down the Empire.
 
2012-05-24 11:04:04 PM

rebelyell2006: revrendjim: SwiftFox: MayContainHorseGluten: TommyymmoT: Doesn't eating strictly gluten free food contribute to vitamin deficiencies in normal people?
I don't know, I'm just asking.

No, you're thinking of veganism or something like that. Gluten can come in stuff with nice nutrients (though rarely vitamins) but gluten itself is not really helpful or harmful to the non-gluten-intolerant.

Wheat's protein level kind of sucks without the gluten.

Gluten was the principal protein source for the Roman Empire, and hence Western Civilization, which makes it kind of ironic to see white people treating it like poison.

How is it ironic? Most white people are more closely related to the 'barbarians' that brought down the Empire.


Irony is lost.
 
2012-05-24 11:11:59 PM

MayContainHorseGluten: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

True, there are many jackasses who go gluten free because they think its a diet. It's not.

That said, the allergy is hugely on the rise. Or rather, the proper diagnoses of it. Now that the tests are easier, and the doctors are better educated about when to look for it, more are finding out they are either all the way celiac or gluten-intolerant.

But it's one allergy/whathaveyou that you don't want. I don't get why anyone would voluntarily avoid gluten, there's plenty who can't have it who'd love to eat it...


I think the other part of the allergy being on the rise part is that the wheat we eat today is very, VERY different than the wheat people were eating 100 years ago, or even 50 or 40 years ago. What we think of as flour is not what people would have thought of as flour except very recently. The way that wheat has been bred, and the way that flour is being processed to make those super duper soft baked goods is very recent, as is the amounts that we are eating it. Since gluten is important in determining how baked goods come out, it's primarily been the gluten that's been messed around with. Modern wheat is being intensively bred to be more and more glutenous.

Allergies are pretty weird things. I have some allergies were I was fine, fine, fine, ate some specific fruit one day that I'd eaten hundreds of times before, broke out in a nice rash and then have ever since. Sometimes once something is triggered, some food item has a higher amount of something in it than it usually does, your immune system gets triggered so that it not only reacts to that, but to smaller amounts of the same thing or other similar things. So I guess what I'm saying is that while I bet diagnosis is getting better, I'm also guessing this is a response to the change in diet, and that people aren't able to digest the new form of wheat as well as the historical one, which still took our ancestors some getting used to.

And yeah, there will always be bandwagon freaks, but I think this is a serious dietary issue we need to look at, one of many. If you really dig down, what the average American eats is pretty scary, as is the way our dietary changes came about, as is the lack of knowledge from the average person about what's in their food or where it came from or how it got processed into its current form.
 
2012-05-24 11:32:02 PM

rebelyell2006: bobbette: rebelyell2006: Walliser: The reasoning was that humans' ability to digest wheat gluten is a relatively recent evolutionary adaptation and that compared to other foods, we're still relatively inefficient at digesting it (using more resources and blocking ready digestion of other nutrients).

If you think about it, pretty much any food other than nuts, berries, fruits and unprocessed meat would be difficult to digest, since agriculture is only about 12,000 years old.

*Groan*

The biggest issue I have with paleo is that our ancestors lived all over the farking place. It's not like my paleolithic Scandinavian ancestors were chowing down on farking avocados or carrots or jicama, yet these are a-OK for paleo. What?!

If you're going to come up with a dietary regime based on adaptability to the human digestive system, I'm all for it. Just don't drown it in pseudo-evolutionary biology...

Honestly I've never heard of a specific "paleo" fad, but I have read about the history of agriculture. Do carrots naturally appear in large amounts in the wild? How many vegetables became widespread after the spread of agriculture? I cannot really imagine pre-agriculture societies pulling up random plants to see if their roots are edible.


Odd that you can't imagine that, because that was a very common thing for pre-agricultural societies to do. Societies basically figured out what tasted good and what was poisonous before they tried cultivating food.

Also, carrots are everywhere around here. A common weed, actually. Not the same variety as the cultivated ones, but same species.
 
2012-05-24 11:37:15 PM

imprimere: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

Yep. I recently spoke with a state certified nutritionist who told me that the actual percentage of people who have this allergy is around 1%.


I don't know what state certified that nutritionist, but (s)he might want to pick up some CE credits. A number of recent studies put the rate of people with gluten sensitivity between 10 and 15%.
 
2012-05-24 11:38:56 PM

Gough: imprimere: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

Yep. I recently spoke with a state certified nutritionist who told me that the actual percentage of people who have this allergy is around 1%.

I don't know what state certified that nutritionist, but (s)he might want to pick up some CE credits. A number of recent studies put the rate of people with gluten sensitivity between 10 and 15%.


;)
 
2012-05-24 11:39:20 PM

Asplenium: rebelyell2006: bobbette: rebelyell2006: Walliser: The reasoning was that humans' ability to digest wheat gluten is a relatively recent evolutionary adaptation and that compared to other foods, we're still relatively inefficient at digesting it (using more resources and blocking ready digestion of other nutrients).

If you think about it, pretty much any food other than nuts, berries, fruits and unprocessed meat would be difficult to digest, since agriculture is only about 12,000 years old.

*Groan*

The biggest issue I have with paleo is that our ancestors lived all over the farking place. It's not like my paleolithic Scandinavian ancestors were chowing down on farking avocados or carrots or jicama, yet these are a-OK for paleo. What?!

If you're going to come up with a dietary regime based on adaptability to the human digestive system, I'm all for it. Just don't drown it in pseudo-evolutionary biology...

Honestly I've never heard of a specific "paleo" fad, but I have read about the history of agriculture. Do carrots naturally appear in large amounts in the wild? How many vegetables became widespread after the spread of agriculture? I cannot really imagine pre-agriculture societies pulling up random plants to see if their roots are edible.

Odd that you can't imagine that, because that was a very common thing for pre-agricultural societies to do. Societies basically figured out what tasted good and what was poisonous before they tried cultivating food.

Also, carrots are everywhere around here. A common weed, actually. Not the same variety as the cultivated ones, but same species.


I learn something new every day.
 
2012-05-24 11:58:40 PM

MayContainHorseGluten: knbber2: Because gluten is the stuff that makes chips and snacks delicious.

Uh, usually no it's not. Wheat in chips makes no sense. Usually chips do not have gluten anyways, unless they're the whole wheat "health" ones, or MSG has been added. Gluten is rarely the tasty part, its the filler part. You can't taste gluten.


Why aren't McDonald's french fries gluten free? Or Dorito's Cool Ranch chips? The biggest hassle for gluten-sensitive/celiacs is keeping track of what foods have had gluten added. The one positive side to having two family members with this condition (it used to be three) is that we've been even more serious about minimizing prepared foods from our diet.
 
2012-05-25 12:00:12 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?


do you have a gluten allergy?
No?
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is kinda silly, isn't it?
 
2012-05-25 12:01:14 AM

revrendjim: Gluten was the principal protein source for the Roman Empire, and hence Western Civilization, which makes it kind of ironic to see white people treating it like poison.


Have you ever read Guns, Germs, and Steel? It's pretty neat and makes a very strong case for calorie/acre being the determining factor for cultural dominance.

And given that in order to have successors to carry on your genes you're going to have to live knee deep in your 19 neighbor's poop, the choice between starving to death and having an upset stomach for all 30 years of your life isn't that hard to make.

Now that we've won, I will personally make the choice to give up the upset stomach and the extra 100 pounds by eating real veggies rather than nutrient poor, calorie rich grass.

/Not a celiac.
//Lost 100ish pounds on a gluten free diet.
///It took 20 months.

p.s. Don't forget that the wheat that people eat these days is a heavily Man Selected variety of dwarf wheat that was created in the late 50's/early 60's in Mexico. Comparing that stuff to the Einkorn Wheat that the Romans ate is fairly inappropriate.
 
2012-05-25 12:02:04 AM
You know, the Paleo diet sounds like the most reasonable thing to me. What could be wrong with eating the way we evolved to eat? But then you get into the details and it starts to get crazy. No grains? Well how did we figure out to cultivate grains if they weren't already a highly sought-after food?
 
2012-05-25 12:06:05 AM

Warrener: Have you ever read Guns, Germs, and Steel?


No, but this is not the first time I've heard of it. I will. Off to Amazon...
 
2012-05-25 12:06:32 AM
I don't want gluten free, I WANT LOW CARB you fools! The carbs are what's killing us.
 
2012-05-25 12:14:03 AM

Voiceofreason01: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

do you have a gluten allergy?
No?
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is kinda silly, isn't it?


He's concerned that when gluten is outlawed, only outlaws will have gluten.

They can have his gluten when they pry it from his cold, dead, flour-dusted hands.
 
2012-05-25 12:14:19 AM

revrendjim: I have a bottle of shampoo that prominently says "Gluten Free." If eating shampoo is causing you gastrointestinal distress, I guess it's nice to know it's not the gluten.


Highly sensitive Celiacs have nasty skin reactions to cosmetic products that contain gluten.

/Celiac
 
2012-05-25 12:16:11 AM

Gough: Voiceofreason01: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

do you have a gluten allergy?
No?
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is kinda silly, isn't it?

He's concerned that when gluten is outlawed, only outlaws will have gluten.

They can have his gluten when they pry it from his cold, dead, flour-dusted hands.


+English. ;)
 
2012-05-25 12:20:30 AM

Flaccidor: revrendjim: I have a bottle of shampoo that prominently says "Gluten Free." If eating shampoo is causing you gastrointestinal distress, I guess it's nice to know it's not the gluten.

Highly sensitive Celiacs have nasty skin reactions to cosmetic products that contain gluten.

/Celiac


I know, I was just trying to make a funny.
 
2012-05-25 12:22:23 AM

revrendjim: No, but this is not the first time I've heard of it. I will. Off to Amazon...


It's a fun book. If you enjoy semi-dry informational type books it's hard to beat. I've recommended it to several people none of which have complained about it. (although to be honest I think only 1 actually read it.)

KarmicDisaster: I don't want gluten free, I WANT LOW CARB you fools! The carbs are what's killing us.


Obvious troll is obvious.

However I still feel morally obligated to mention that my weight was pretty firmly stuck at 220 (at 5'10") with only eating 30g a day of carbs except on Friday and Saturday, with 50-100g those days, all from bread.

Once I dropped the bread entirely my weight started shifting down again about 5 pounds a week.

Now I'm at 160 and eat 100-150g a day of starches, but nothing glutinous. If I have a single mouthful of wheat based "food" my stomach will hurt for 3-5 days and I'll have the poops for pretty much all of that. For that time I put on 5-10 pounds of water weight which disappears (literally) overnight once the bad food is completely out of my system.

For all I know I actually do have a medical problem with gluten, but fark if I'm going to pay a Dr. to tell me not to eat food I know makes my gut hurt.
 
2012-05-25 12:25:20 AM
I work with a girl who absolutely cannot even be around gluten. If she even smells a donut she spazes about how she's going to get seriously sick from the gluten in the air. I have my own (religious) diet I follow, but that doesn't mean that I'll deny my fellow coworker the tastiness that is bacon or claim God will smite me because there's pork somewhere nearby.
 
2012-05-25 12:27:43 AM

TommyymmoT: MayContainHorseGluten: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

True, there are many jackasses who go gluten free because they think its a diet. It's not.

That said, the allergy is hugely on the rise. Or rather, the proper diagnoses of it. Now that the tests are easier, and the doctors are better educated about when to look for it, more are finding out they are either all the way celiac or gluten-intolerant.

But it's one allergy/whathaveyou that you don't want. I don't get why anyone would voluntarily avoid gluten, there's plenty who can't have it who'd love to eat it...
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I've wondered about that.
5 years ago, you heard the word "celiac", pretty much never, and now, there are entire supermarket aisles devoted to it.
Same with peanuts. When I was growing up, I didn't know a single person with a peanut allergy, and now, I see signs warning of their presence even more than I used to those signs warning that a microwave was in use.

I am in no way questioning whether these conditions are legit, I'm just wondering why there is such a spike in reported cases.

Might the reason be environmental? Different diagnostics?


Mostly the latter, imo. I'm a 6'3 240 lb male with no history of GI symptoms, yet I had one of the most severe cases of Celiac disease my specialist had seen. We only found it after a long investigation into my otherwise-unexplained, severe iron deficient anemia. I think docs are starting to figure out that it isn't just pale, underweight teenaged girls with GI problems that should be screened.

Re: environmental causes, that's obviously tough to say, but as a father of 2 kids under 3 I know pediatricians/dieticians now recommend against feeding your infant anything other than breast milk or formula for the 1st six months of its life, as they now believe that an infant's stomach isn't fully developed and "sealed" properly, leading to "leaky gut". There's some evidence that introduction of regular food before 6 months is associated with allergies later in life.

I was a large baby, so I was on grain-based pablum from the day I was born, according to my mom. This was the early 70s...
 
2012-05-25 12:33:21 AM

JonBuck: If there's gluten in your cheese


As an aside, a lot of people who actually do have issues with gluten tend to also have issues with the protein casein, found in cheese.
 
2012-05-25 12:34:05 AM

Warrener: revrendjim:

For all I know I actually do have a medical problem with gluten, but fark if I'm going to pay a Dr. to tell me not to eat food I know makes my gut hurt.


That's the approach our family doc took. It was his version of, "Doc, it hurts when I do this.". Doc, "Don't do that." Ms. Gough had been gluten-free for several years and doing fine. Her gastroenterologist wanted to do a blood test to determine if she was celiac. Unfortu.nately, for the test to be definitive, she'd have to eat a gluten-rich diet for several weeks beforehand. She decided against that
 
2012-05-25 12:34:48 AM

actualhuman: The My Little Pony Killer: Modguy: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

Presumably because Gluten free is becoming Faddish. I've seen a lot of raging Hipsters/people my age buy Gluten free because derp. And I asked if they had a Gluten allergy, and they said no. The entire thing is mind numbing.

Yeah, but those people are a lot of the reason why people who actually do suffer from celiac disease have an easier time finding food they can actually eat nowadays.

You're making me approve of hipsters, you asshole.


Thank goodness. I was starting to feel weirded out that people on Fark were agreeing with me ;)
 
2012-05-25 12:40:02 AM
I went low-carb and lost 48 pounds in about 9 months. When going out to eat, a few times I had entertained the idea of using "gluten-free" excuse to explain my odd choices in purchases + meals. When you order a JimmyJohn's Gargantuan sandwich with added bacon, and then ask them to wrap it in lettuce, it's pretty much a guaranteed confused look on the cashier's face.
 
2012-05-25 12:46:16 AM

Jaykzo: I went low-carb and lost 48 pounds in about 9 months. When going out to eat, a few times I had entertained the idea of using "gluten-free" excuse to explain my odd choices in purchases + meals. When you order a JimmyJohn's Gargantuan sandwich with added bacon, and then ask them to wrap it in lettuce, it's pretty much a guaranteed confused look on the cashier's face.


The flip side of this is that the popularity of low-carb/Adkins has helped gluten-sensitive people have more choices when they dine out. I'll admit that Ms Gough has been known to make me stop at Carls Jr. to pick up one of their Low-Carb (lettuce-wrapped) burgers.
 
2012-05-25 12:49:04 AM
As to the article, well, I'm all for any fad that results in a wider variety of food choices for people like me.

More to the point, though, people who don't have to exclude it from their diet (for whatever reason) usually don't realize how pervasive it is in virtually everything that isn't fruits, vegetables, and meats. Chocolate (barley malt extract often used as flavor agent), coffee (some manufacturers dust their production lines with flour to help the beans move more freely), anything with "seasoning" in the ingredient list, anything made with malt vinegar, TVP, (US derived) MSG... the list goes on and on and on. Hell, even some cornstarch and powdered sugar has flour added to help with pourability or some stupid thing.

You need to read the label of everything you buy and you need to know exactly what each and every ingredient is - if you don't know, you don't buy it.

If that weren't enough, you need to consider whether or not the apparently GF product you hold in your hands is made on the same production line as a product that DOES contain gluten. Or does the manufacturer produce another gluten-containing item in the same room? Cross-contamination is a biatch and something Celiacs ALWAYS have to be wary of - this is an even more significant issue when dining out. The labelling standards in Canada are a bit tougher than in the US - a product cannot claim to be GF if it is produced under the same roof as gluten-containing products. Makes for some interesting labeling results for US GF products imported into Canada.

Cross contamination is the main reason why the labels in TFA are a good thing. Yeah, no one would expect a plain potato chip to be anything BUT GF, but the more important question is what other flavors of chips are made on the line beside it? Is it made on the same line as the wheaty-barley-ohs? Were they fried in the same oil as the sun chips? That's where it becomes important.
 
2012-05-25 12:51:26 AM

Voiceofreason01: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

do you have a gluten allergy?
No?
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is kinda silly, isn't it?


Do people with gluten allergies exist?
Yes.
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is very helpful to them, isn't it?
 
2012-05-25 12:55:22 AM

Gough: Warrener: revrendjim:

For all I know I actually do have a medical problem with gluten, but fark if I'm going to pay a Dr. to tell me not to eat food I know makes my gut hurt.

That's the approach our family doc took. It was his version of, "Doc, it hurts when I do this.". Doc, "Don't do that." Ms. Gough had been gluten-free for several years and doing fine. Her gastroenterologist wanted to do a blood test to determine if she was celiac. Unfortu.nately, for the test to be definitive, she'd have to eat a gluten-rich diet for several weeks beforehand. She decided against that


One benefit to a true diagnosis is the fact that (in Canada) you can claim the marginal increase in cost of a GF item as comapred to its non-GF equivalent as a tax credit. Given the price spread, that can add up quickly when you consider the groceries you purchase over the course of a year. I think the US has something similar...
 
2012-05-25 12:59:09 AM
For all the gluten you don't eat, I'll eat twice as much.
 
2012-05-25 01:00:49 AM

Gough: Jaykzo: I went low-carb and lost 48 pounds in about 9 months. When going out to eat, a few times I had entertained the idea of using "gluten-free" excuse to explain my odd choices in purchases + meals. When you order a JimmyJohn's Gargantuan sandwich with added bacon, and then ask them to wrap it in lettuce, it's pretty much a guaranteed confused look on the cashier's face.

The flip side of this is that the popularity of low-carb/Adkins has helped gluten-sensitive people have more choices when they dine out. I'll admit that Ms Gough has been known to make me stop at Carls Jr. to pick up one of their Low-Carb (lettuce-wrapped) burgers.


I'll dedicate my next double-steak Chipotle Burrito bowl (no rice, fajita veggies) to the many brave souls who cannot tolerate gluten.
 
2012-05-25 01:08:48 AM

Bucky Katt: For all the gluten you don't eat, I'll eat twice as much.


Have fun, bro.

I'll sit next to you and enjoy my ribeye with a sweet potato and steamed veggies.
 
2012-05-25 01:09:20 AM

vossiewulf: I'm kinda like the first person in the article, have been suffering for years from bad stomach acid/cramping problems, tried all sorts of OTC and prescription drugs with limited success...
...
IMO it's worth a try if you have unexplained or not fully controlled gastrointestinal problems. If you don't, you're just being faddish.


Hmm, interesting. I'll have to read up on this sometime. I'd rather not take a Prilosec every day for the rest of my life so my throat isn't dissolved by stomach acid.
Thanks.
 
2012-05-25 01:14:10 AM

vossiewulf: I'm kinda like the first person in the article, have been suffering for years from bad stomach acid/cramping problems, tried all sorts of OTC and prescription drugs with limited success, and finally out of a lack of things to try said what the hell let's try cutting out gluten. I got much better within a couple weeks, and it's stayed better for a year now. I don't give a crap about the derp, all I care about is my stomach is better. And I'm not extreme about it, I will eat gluten if nothing else reasonable is available, I just don't make a habit of it.

IMO it's worth a try if you have unexplained or not fully controlled gastrointestinal problems. If you don't, you're just being faddish.


My mother gave up on wheat and gluten-esque products for a while, and not only lost weight but had a dramatic reduction in some shall we say lower instestinal difficulties that had been plaguing her. After about a year, it got to be too much trouble and she gradually let wheat come back into her diet, but the troubles stayed away. She still avoids eating too much bread and other junk.

There's no reason to assume the worst and go "gluten free" and bother all your friends--just reducing the amount of bread-type stuff you eat can make a big difference. Corn tortillas and potato bread can do wonders.
 
2012-05-25 01:14:34 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: Voiceofreason01: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

do you have a gluten allergy?
No?
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is kinda silly, isn't it?

Do people with gluten allergies exist?
Yes.
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is very helpful to them, isn't it?


Yes. On the other hand it's silly for people to believe shaitty processed junk food is better for them because it's "gluten free".
 
2012-05-25 01:19:40 AM

Fart_Machine: The My Little Pony Killer: Voiceofreason01: The My Little Pony Killer: How exactly is that silly?

do you have a gluten allergy?
No?
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is kinda silly, isn't it?

Do people with gluten allergies exist?
Yes.
Then making a big deal about food being "gluten free" is very helpful to them, isn't it?

Yes. On the other hand it's silly for people to believe shaitty processed junk food is better for them because it's "gluten free".


True, but as I pointed out many hours ago, those trendy idiots are the reason why there are now so many options for true celiacs, even if the food tastes like crap.
 
2012-05-25 01:22:50 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: True, but as I pointed out many hours ago


Wait, I was supposed to read the thread? :)
 
2012-05-25 01:27:28 AM

Fart_Machine: The My Little Pony Killer: True, but as I pointed out many hours ago

Wait, I was supposed to read the thread? :)


:P
 
2012-05-25 01:30:22 AM

Litig8r: bobbette: MayContainHorseGluten: revrendjim: I have a bottle of shampoo that prominently says "Gluten Free." If eating shampoo is causing you gastrointestinal distress, I guess it's nice to know it's not the gluten.

That's hilarious.

Actually, a lot of shampoos have wheat ingredients and some celiacs really are that sensitive.

The label isnt for celiacs. People with celiac disease won't react unless the consume it. Celiac disease is an autoimmune disorder, not an allergy, where the body reacts to gluten by, basically, trying to destroy part of the small intestine. People with a wheat allergy that is gluten specific will have a histamine based skin reaction if they touch it.


People can accidentally consume shampoo and conditioner, most often kids. Big issue for parents who have kids with celiac. There's gluten in a lot of cosmetics, as well, and those are easily consumed (especially lipstick.)
 
2012-05-25 02:11:38 AM

sleeps in trees: My son has celiac and autism. First thing my husband did was find gluten free beer so "the kid can have some fun. Priorities, woman, priorities."


Adopt me. Now.
 
2012-05-25 02:25:51 AM
Also this: ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2012-05-25 03:25:28 AM

TommyymmoT: It's a microwave world, and if a box says "meal" on it, then that's what's in it, and they welcome that simplicity, because hey, thinking is hard.


It's even worse than that. I'm lazy and impatient too.

I'm eating a microwave meal. The box said "Healthy" on it and that's about all I read other than how long to microwave it for. It had a picture of fish, broccoli and some kind of dessert which will no doubt taste nasty. None of it tastes particularly good, but the dessert part is usually the worst for some reason.

Oh and I don't believe the "Healthy" part either - I do realize that's just part of the brand name.

I thought about the other options available, but all of those involved actually cooking something on the stove or in the oven and would take longer and require more stuff to clean.
 
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