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2012-05-25 12:41:52 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: Telemarketers need to pay their bills too. Blame the company they work for if you want to be pissed at them having your number.


Here's one.

www.pbpulse.com

Get a different job.
 
2012-05-25 12:41:57 AM

nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.


I'm on the DNC lists and I still get unsolicited calls. None of the callers give me any details, no company name and no personal name. Calling back connects to something completely different or nothing at all.

Now what wiseguy?
 
2012-05-25 12:42:52 AM

LincolnLogolas: Mutt Farkinov: I've heard of people who hand the phone to their preschool-age child and tell them something like, "Oooh, Santa Clause is on the phone and wants to talk to you!"

There's an idea. I've got a two year old. You put her on the phone with anyone, she'll blather on about every single word she can think of. She'll talk about her kitty, about colors, numbers, letters, her feet... I do it to my wife sometimes. Eventually I can hear her going "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TAKE THE PHONE AWAY FROM HER".


A neightbor (who is also one of my co-workers) did that when his son was 2-years old. His kid loved to talk on the phone, so whenever a telemarketer called, he'd hand the phone over to his son to babble away until the telemarketer hung up in frustration.
 
2012-05-25 12:43:12 AM

Jixa: sethstorm: rohar: A whistle? A farking whistle? Amateur.

[www.old-computers.com image 640x406]

I see your modem and raise you one Captain Crunch whistle.
[www.telephonetribute.com image 350x132]
/hotlinked

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 640x541]


/nostalgia want!


Nah he just wants to make free long distance calls.
 
2012-05-25 12:47:18 AM

golem222: just for the sake of clarification, while phones do have volume limiters in many occasions call center workers will actually use amplifiers and headsets so that they can hear what the person on the other end is saying, therefore it is entirely possible that the call center worker really did have some serious damage done to her hearing. While i sympathize with anyone getting a lot of calls from telemarketers ruining some poor SOBs hearing for life is going way to far, the judge should have given a fine at least 10 times greater than the laughably small fine that was given.


Unfortunately, I suspect that the laws of the country prevented such a fine from being levied against the telemarketing company.
 
2012-05-25 12:53:47 AM

toidsal: nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.

I'm on the DNC lists and I still get unsolicited calls. None of the callers give me any details, no company name and no personal name. Calling back connects to something completely different or nothing at all.

Now what wiseguy?


Tell them you are praying to the gods to give them ass cancer.
 
2012-05-25 12:54:03 AM
My Caller ID comes up on my TV. Any number I don't recognize doesn't get picked up, ever. Legitimate companies leave messages and I get to continue to turn into vegetable matter.
 
2012-05-25 12:56:30 AM

Indubitably: I like the angle of requiring them to pay for said opine.

Call me and ask?

Please forward some cash.

You use my opine for cash, so why shouldn't I be paid for it?



What? Opine is a verb.
Autocorrect attack? Twice?
 
2012-05-25 01:13:23 AM
While you are

Shadow Blasko: nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.

Yeah, because companies that are illegally trolling for information are going to be concerned with following the do not call list.


While you are correct, the do not call list is a legal document saying you can not be solicited to via telephone. If they continue to call then you can file a sticky lawsuit.
 
2012-05-25 01:19:21 AM
I hate those "Cardmember Services" calls. I have blocked so many of the calls that I ran out of my phone's max number. They buy 500 or so new numbers to call from every month and will hang up if I start asking questions. Except for one who wanted to be an ass and told me about the new numbers they just bought and told me I'll just have to deal with it.
They are on the do-not call list but still call. So I like a chump turn in each number to my state's Attorney General. A whistle should be allowable.
/especially when they call 3 times a day over 2 phones.
 
2012-05-25 01:40:45 AM

Genju: Jixa: sethstorm: rohar: A whistle? A farking whistle? Amateur.

[www.old-computers.com image 640x406]

I see your modem and raise you one Captain Crunch whistle.
[www.telephonetribute.com image 350x132]
/hotlinked

[i2.kym-cdn.com image 640x541]


/nostalgia want!

Nah he just wants to make free long distance calls.



I hear 2600 right in the ear kind hertz....
 
2012-05-25 01:52:55 AM

Genju: [t2.gstatic.com image 240x180]

Take it to the next level.

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For the over-achiever.


Either of which will be just as loud to the recipient on the other end of the line as if you had simply raised your voice a little. You, on the other hand, will likely sustain hearing damage unless you are wearing hearing protection.

This story is a pile of BS.
 
2012-05-25 01:53:45 AM
Here's my trick: I answer the call (pretending to be a message recording) speaking in a very low voice, forcing them to turn their volume WAY up. By the time they can hear and assume they need to leave a message, I hit a button on my phone that plays an incredibly loud fax tone followed by a beep. They have ALWAYS disconnected the call before the beep to leave a message -- and almost never call back.

Although the software varies by company, they all have a Modem/Fax button that a telemarketer can hit that tells their autodialer system they are trying to connect with a non-voice line.
 
2012-05-25 01:57:25 AM

Enemabag Jones: She needs to learn to slow down and take it down a notch.

There are many ways to mess with telemarketers that don't involve being a total bastard to them.

I bet she has rage issues and I she might be a bit on the crazy side.

/Just keep her away from guns.


I have trolls calling my parents STILL for long since paid student debt (not loans, just a balance on my last semester, thanks alma mater).

My dad has a game now where he tells them he'll 'find her' then times how long they stay on the line. Longest so far, 46 minutes.

/I live an hour away
//it's been paid dammit and she doesn't live here both didn't work...
 
2012-05-25 01:58:13 AM

LtDarkstar: This would work well on those scam credit-card calls I keep getting where they are obviously calling from a boiler room somewhere and try to scam people into believing they are calling from an actual credit card company in an attempt to steal people's identities. You use a nice loud boat horn in their ear and they aren't going to do a thing against you because what they are doing is illegal anyways and it would just get them in more trouble than it's worth. hahaha, ya i'm totally doing this!


I would be more worried about damaging my phone's microphone.
 
2012-05-25 02:18:58 AM
She still had a home phone? How cute.
 
2012-05-25 02:26:55 AM
i.imgur.com

Not impressed.
 
2012-05-25 02:29:29 AM

rohar: A whistle? A farking whistle? Amateur.

[www.old-computers.com image 640x406]


JeffMD: zomg the 1870! I remember finally getting one of those to replace my pulse dial 300 modem. Man those were the days... I was like super man in all the club caribe games with that.

ahem...


Thanks for the memories! Club Caribe! I first used this handle you see me with here on PlayNET, which invented the UI that Quantum Computer Services later licensed (and then drove PlayNET out of business) as QuantumLINK aka Q-Link where Club Caribe later premiered.

Quantum Computer Services later branched out to the Mac and PC with AppleLINK Personal Edition (Apple had its own AppleLINK for developers only) and PC-Link, which they later merged into Online America, later renamed AmericaOnLine (the original Q-Link was not merged in and remained a separate service). The company changed its name to match some years later.


Silly Jesus: This is most excellent. This guy gets a call from a telemarketer and pretends to be a detective at a murder scene...he starts questioning the telemarketer etc.


Yes, it was indeed most excellent! Thanks!


farkingismybusiness: Fined? What happened to Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989?


Normally, I would've said "</thread>" after a comment like that, but then we'd've missed out on the other great posts above that followed yours. ☺
 
2012-05-25 02:30:02 AM
This story cannot be accurate. This is pretty much like being able to sue someone for blindness because they send you a video clip of the sun. The technology doesn't work that way. IT has nothing to do with 'volume limiters" and everything to do with the fact that a phone will only play the signal as loud as it can. TO hold someone liable because their whistle made your phone too loud is asinine. It is their own fault for having a phone that can output that many decibels. If you yell loud, a phone would have been the just asloud as a whistle, a gun, or a jet engine. Phones are not that accurate, the input will just distort it.
 
2012-05-25 02:30:17 AM
Get caller id, dont answer unless you know the number. Dont punish these poor shiats for doing their job. Its not them youre mad at.
 
2012-05-25 02:30:26 AM
My daughter worked for a telemarketer for about 2 weeks. About every day she would tell me about 3-4 people in the office would get the whistle...

Here's a clue people: It doesn't work... That will never get them to take your number off their list...

Hit them with the DNC list, legal action, not buying anything, etc... Whatever it takes... But here's the ideal answer: Use your caller ID and if you don't recognize it, don't pick it up...
 
2012-05-25 02:30:53 AM

jungus: I hate those "Cardmember Services" calls. I have blocked so many of the calls that I ran out of my phone's max number. They buy 500 or so new numbers to call from every month and will hang up if I start asking questions. Except for one who wanted to be an ass and told me about the new numbers they just bought and told me I'll just have to deal with it.
They are on the do-not call list but still call. So I like a chump turn in each number to my state's Attorney General. A whistle should be allowable.
/especially when they call 3 times a day over 2 phones.


Considering the fact that the article was about a woman in Germany, I don't think you have too much to worry about if you're in the U. S.
 
2012-05-25 02:39:06 AM

vegasj: nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.

I'm on it... I still get robo-calls. How about they (you?) get a real farking job.


I've never worked as a telemarketer before, but you do realize how farking stupid you sound right now right? Does their job pay Monopoly money? What do you do that's so noble and pure that you can condescend to others about how they make their income, I bet I can make your job, no matter what you do, sound like you're the scum of the earth in at least three different ways.
 
2012-05-25 02:44:06 AM

Lipspinach: Indubitably: Skr: I'm thinking it would be nice to just transfer the line over to a fax machine
EEErrrrSCCCCCRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

You al-twats point out stuff.

You either celebrate or denigrate.

I suspect denigrate.

So, as such,

grow up, man.

I love, you?

;)

Damn, you're an idiot!
plonk


And therein lies the most elegant solution. Forward their call to Indubitably.

/or meowsaidthedog.
 
2012-05-25 02:56:31 AM
The next time "they" call about refinancing my credit card debt (I have no credit cards), would it be against the law to sternly declare, "I don't know who you are, but if you call me again I will track you down, find you and kill you dead"?

What about to simply wish something unpleasant: "I hope your boyfriend is raped with a broken bottle."

If I press 1 and THEN say that, is it different than if the voice is "live" to begin with?
 
2012-05-25 03:06:59 AM

rkane1: At work, we created a voicemailbox that we use for telemarketers. It's got a recording that just sounds like a regular one...''You've reached Stacy at extension 328, sorry I can't answer your call...etc"

Someone calls for the 'Office Manager'? Sure thing, I'll transfer you to Stacy. The telemarketer leaves 'Stacy' a message and jots down her extension number 328.

When they call back to follow up, they dial her directly and we don't have to deal with them. The voicemail box is set to auto-delete any messages left.



That makes no sense. Too much work, when you can just hang up/tell them not interested/ask to never call again, etc.

People are strange sometimes.
 
2012-05-25 03:11:45 AM

Mr. Shabooboo: I hear 2600 right in the ear kind hertz....


If 2600 hertz, 3000 would really hert.
 
2012-05-25 03:19:20 AM

Silly Jesus: This is most excellent. This guy gets a call from a telemarketer and pretends to be a detective at a murder scene...he starts questioning the telemarketer etc.


Oh man, I miss listening to the Bob and Tom Show. That really made my evening. :)
 
2012-05-25 03:30:11 AM

toidsal: nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.

I'm on the DNC lists and I still get unsolicited calls. None of the callers give me any details, no company name and no personal name. Calling back connects to something completely different or nothing at all.

Now what wiseguy?


That is illegal. Call the po-po's.
 
2012-05-25 03:32:21 AM

Hollie Maea: The telemarketer is lying about the hearing loss. You could detonate a nuclear device next to a phone, and the signal is still just going to be clipped.


Bullshiat. Get an airhorn, give it to your mother in law, have her call you and blow it into the phone at loud volume.

Try it, I dare ya, I double dog dare ya mofo.
 
2012-05-25 03:37:47 AM

nread2010: The people are just there to work.


Right. They were just following orders.

Like TSA agents, they should refuse on principle to engage in such activities. I know they want to feed their kids, but they are knowingly becoming a blight on society to do it, so we should treat them just like we would someone who robs to feed their kids -- leniency perhaps, if their options were truly limited to such hurtful activities, but never acceptance.
 
2012-05-25 03:42:42 AM

w00ty: shenanigans. i think the judge was the telemarketer


I, too, call shenanigans. I think the whole story was made up. Fabricated. Bullshiat.
 
2012-05-25 03:52:48 AM

nread2010: Bullshiat. Get an airhorn, give it to your mother in law, have her call you and blow it into the phone at loud volume.


Phone connections coded with µlaw have 8-bit companded samples, which translates to maybe 12 bits of linear sample depth. That puts the maximum dynamic range around 70dB. And if you're connected via a cell phone network (or some other low-bandwidth codec is in use on the line) that range is even smaller.
 
2012-05-25 04:49:04 AM
Why does it seem like most of the posters in this thread have no idea that this story took place in Germany?
 
2012-05-25 04:57:26 AM
I was about to offer to chip in, then i realized she's a stupid coont for answering an unrecognized number.

/f*ck you, too
 
2012-05-25 05:09:42 AM
No Hero Tag Subby?
 
2012-05-25 05:16:30 AM

bahknee: Why does it seem like most of the posters in this thread have no idea that this story took place in Germany?


What? Are you actually suggesting we should read the article? :-D

That's crazy talk!
 
2012-05-25 06:18:42 AM
Boo f**king Hoo. If a telemarketer can't handle the concessional whistle or trumpet or air horn in the ear, GTFO!
 
2012-05-25 06:49:08 AM
evil biatch.

most telemarketers are just people on minimum wage trying to make ends meet doing a legal job

if you've got a problem with telemarketers, then
# call the company and lodge a complaint
# put yourself on the 'do not call preference list
# put the phone down on the caller

all of these are legal options

what you dont do, is try and damage someones hearing

/hope she gets sent to prison for EVAH!
 
2012-05-25 06:58:34 AM

furterfan: doing a legal job


The trading that lead to the 2008 financial collapse was legal too. But I still feel pretty justified in hating the people that did it.
 
2012-05-25 07:12:08 AM
We may have a great excuse to use these now:

travelblog.portfoliocollection.com
 
2012-05-25 07:51:22 AM

Bathia_Mapes: bahknee: Why does it seem like most of the posters in this thread have no idea that this story took place in Germany?

What? Are you actually suggesting we should read the article? :-D

That's crazy talk!


I know, I know, I expect too much.
 
2012-05-25 07:53:57 AM
I never got the hate that people have for telemarketers. You control the situation. If you don't want to talk to them, just hang up the phone. Don't worry about being polite, just say "I'm not interested" and hang up the minute that you know their intentions--who gives a flying fark if they're not done talking? You don't even have to do that, just hang up.

Every telemarketer that I've had call me in recent years follows the same pattern: a moment's pause before they get on the line and start giving their pitch to me. So I say hello,and if I don't hear any background noise or a person on the other end of the line, I simply hang up the phone. It works almost flawlessly, and if one does manage to get through and I don't recognize their voice, I hang up. If it's actually an important call, they'll call back immediately thinking that we got cut off. I can either pick up (which I hardly ever do) or let the answering service pick up the call.

Just. Hang. Up.
 
2012-05-25 08:05:00 AM
Dear telemarketers,

Please adjust the maximum volume on your phone to the appropriate limit like everyone else. This is a safety precaution which should have been covered in any training program.
 
2012-05-25 08:17:42 AM

PainInTheASP: Just. Hang. Up.


And how does that make up for the phone having rung and been answered in the first place?

Multiple times a day?
 
2012-05-25 08:22:21 AM

LordOfThePings: Don't phones in Germany have volume-limiters?


Land-line phones in Canada certainly do. Legal requirement so you don't get damage from noise spikes or screaming folks.
 
2012-05-25 08:30:33 AM

Aulus: At my weekend job, we kept getting spam faxes. One day, I got fed up and taped six or seven sheets of dark construction paper end to end and faxed that back to them. Kiss your toner good-bye, jerks.


Um, they use fax servers. That would be as effective at wasting toner as scanning a black image and emailing it to them. It would tie up one of their phone lines.

PainInTheASP: I never got the hate that people have for telemarketers. You control the situation. If you don't want to talk to them, just hang up the phone. Don't worry about being polite, just say "I'm not interested" and hang up the minute that you know their intentions--who gives a flying fark if they're not done talking? You don't even have to do that, just hang up.


I have family members who are elderly/sick/might need some help. If I am up on a ladder painting or doing something else inconvenient, I have to stop what I'm doing, go down the ladder, find the phone, and then look at the caller ID which is more than likely says something like 'Akron OH', and it is some nimrod 'surveying' me to see if I need a new roof. Maybe they are waking up someone who works 3rd shift. Perhaps calling someone with late stage cancer.

I don't pay to have a telephone so that you can call me all freaking day trying to sell me something. It would be different if I had an ad supported phone line. But I didn't sign up for that.
 
2012-05-25 08:39:11 AM

Aulus: At my weekend job, we kept getting spam faxes. One day, I got fed up and taped six or seven sheets of dark construction paper end to end and faxed that back to them. Kiss your toner good-bye, jerks.


I had a wealthy client contact me once asking if I could write a program to automate sorting email responses to their fax spams. They know fax spamming is illegal, so they put the outgoing call center in a different country, and then fax spam anyhow. They would receive such a volume of mixed responses (from positive sales to death threats). they no longer wanted to have to read the negative ones manually.

I just sort of LOLed and said I wasnt interested in the project.... but it really made me think of him as a dick from that point on.

/CSB
 
2012-05-25 08:41:19 AM

PainInTheASP: I never got the hate that people have for telemarketers. You control the situation. If you don't want to talk to them, just hang up the phone. Don't worry about being polite, just say "I'm not interested" and hang up the minute that you know their intentions--who gives a flying fark if they're not done talking? You don't even have to do that, just hang up.

Every telemarketer that I've had call me in recent years follows the same pattern: a moment's pause before they get on the line and start giving their pitch to me. So I say hello,and if I don't hear any background noise or a person on the other end of the line, I simply hang up the phone. It works almost flawlessly, and if one does manage to get through and I don't recognize their voice, I hang up. If it's actually an important call, they'll call back immediately thinking that we got cut off. I can either pick up (which I hardly ever do) or let the answering service pick up the call.

Just. Hang. Up.


I like how you put the burden on the person being inconvenienced/annoyed by this nonsense. As the post above said, everyone isn't just sitting on their couch waiting to answer their phone. The calls wake up infants, interrupt dinner, cause you to stop what you are doing and find your phone. It's asinine to suggest flippantly to "just deal with it" and put no blame on the people causing the nonsense.
 
2012-05-25 08:55:04 AM
Is anyone else getting relentless telemarketing calls, like 4 times a day, from people telling you "you won a 2012 Lincoln Navigator," selling alarm systems, or trying to sell you personal loans? I keep getting these same automated calls, sometimes the phone just clicks off when I answer. The bot is a good one, programmed to answer some limited questions that make it seem like a live person. This is on my cell phone that's registered on the Do Not Call list. I've called the numbers back and all that happens is a recorded message says something like, "thanks for calling, if you want to be removed from our calling list please press 2," which never works in getting the calls to stop. I've filed at least 20 complaints, even with my attorney gen, hasn't helped. They're always out of OR, WA, TN, or TX. Anyone else in the same boat have any luck in getting them to stop, short of changing my number? Any attorneys here think I have a case to bring a suit?
 
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