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(Foobies)   Woman fined for damaging telemarketer's hearing after blowing whistle into phone. Whatever the fine was, put me down for two   (thelocal.de) divider line 175
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2012-05-24 11:37:03 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Phone harrassment, it's not a crime when a corporation does it.


I'm not so much opposed to this in principle as I am critical of her choice of targets. Rather than harming the grunt in the call center, it would have been much better to blast a whistle in the ear of the CEO, or whoever is ultimately responsible for running the call center.


SuperT: yea, fark that kid earning minimum wage, fark them right in the ass!


On the one hand, if you are "that kid earning minimum wage," you're not completely innocent. But on the other hand, I largely agree with you. That kid earning minimum wage isn't the real culprit and shouldn't be the one you take your displeasure out on.

It is unfortunate that CEOs and other high mucky-mucks are shielded from the displeasure of all the people that they piss off. I wish there were some law that said that people who ran companies had to spend a minimum number of hours a week answering calls with no ability to screen those calls in any fashion. Like a complaint department, basically, only the people who ran the company had to answer the phones.
 
2012-05-24 11:37:52 PM  

nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.


No.
fark you.
You work for scum, you are scum.
fark them.
Also the "DNC list" is a joke. Why should we have to request not to be harassed? Do we also need a "Do Not Steal List" too?
 
2012-05-24 11:38:44 PM  
I work from home. When I bought this house, I didn't get a landline because I used my cell for everything. Then I started my current job, and I spend a lot of time in meetings on the phone, so I got a landline.

I literally get about ten calls every day for charities, surveys, and the like. Every damn day.

The landline is over Time Warner's VoIP service (my company pays my phone and internet bill so it was just easier to have them both on one bill) and the call quality is absolutely terrible. that has nothing to do with the telmarketing thing, just wanted to let everyone know.
 
2012-05-24 11:38:45 PM  
Telemarketers?

Just quietly put the phone down and go back to whatever you were doing.

They are trained to go through there entire spiel without giving a pause as this is a chance for a person to end the conversation. Sometimes they will waste minutes before realising they are talking to a dead end, and those minutes add up and cost them money.

The more it costs them to call random people, the less viable telemarketing is.
 
2012-05-24 11:39:23 PM  
I recorded a SIT tone on my answering machine. It has cut the volume of robo calls in half.

You can be on the Do Not Call Registry and it will do no good. It has been my experience that it is not enforced. We are on our own.
 
2012-05-24 11:40:09 PM  

Begoggle: nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.

No.
fark you.
You work for scum, you are scum.
fark them.
Also the "DNC list" is a joke. Why should we have to request not to be harassed? Do we also need a "Do Not Steal List" too?


Part of it is also other companies that are calling for collections, and to try and get people to pay their bills. I would not consider those people scum.
 
2012-05-24 11:43:06 PM  
We just put the handset on the floor and let the dog bark at it.

/works every time
 
2012-05-24 11:43:31 PM  
umm shouldn't the phone manufacturer be sued. since it was the speakers fault, not the woman's
 
2012-05-24 11:43:59 PM  
The DNC list doesn't work all that well over here let alone in Europe. File all the complaints you want to the FTC, the VOIP callers spoof the ph #.

Hopefully somebody will buy the lady a foghorn for the next round.

/I usually ask 'em where they live for starters
 
2012-05-24 11:44:59 PM  
I've heard of people who hand the phone to their preschool-age child and tell them something like, "Oooh, Santa Clause is on the phone and wants to talk to you!"
 
2012-05-24 11:45:07 PM  
A whistle? A farking whistle? Amateur.

www.old-computers.com
 
2012-05-24 11:46:57 PM  

nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.


You can go to the www.donotcall.gov and register your number. It takes 30 days before you can file a complaint against a telemarketing company, but after that it does work. AND you can request the telemarketer to put your number on their "do not call" list. If they call again after the request, ask for a supervisor, they will fix things right away.

//just checked the site to be sure of the address, they had, in red letters, this: Scammers have been making phone calls claiming to represent the National Do Not Call Registry. The calls claim to provide an opportunity to sign up for the Registry. These calls are not coming from the Registry or the Federal Trade Commission, and you should not respond to these calls. To add your number to the Registry you can call 888-382-1222 from the phone you wish to register, or go click on "Register a Phone Number" in the left column of this page.LOL
 
2012-05-24 11:47:39 PM  

Gleeman: We just put the handset on the floor and let the dog bark at it.

/works every time


Just wait till these guys show up with 30 orders.

/your dog wants...
 
2012-05-24 11:47:46 PM  
I had a friend who used to be a telemarketer. He said that no matter what happened, he could not hang up first. Often he had to wait on the line while someone screamed at him and he could never hang up. He said sometimes he'd be berated for over an hour.
 
2012-05-24 11:49:12 PM  
zomg the 1870! I remember finally getting one of those to replace my pulse dial 300 modem. Man those were the days... I was like super man in all the club caribe games with that.


ahem...
 
2012-05-24 11:50:41 PM  
Why does anyone still have a land line? I haven't had one since 2003.

I have a cell phone and pay less per month for it than I would for a land line.

I just don't get it.
 
2012-05-24 11:51:28 PM  
At my weekend job, we kept getting spam faxes. One day, I got fed up and taped six or seven sheets of dark construction paper end to end and faxed that back to them. Kiss your toner good-bye, jerks.
 
2012-05-24 11:51:54 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: Telemarketers need to pay their bills too. Blame the company they work for if you want to be pissed at them having your number.


Hey yeah, as long as you're making money at it, you can do whatever the fark you want to other people and it'll be totally legit. Because money.
 
2012-05-24 11:53:26 PM  

SuperT: yea, fark that kid earning minimum wage, fark them right in the ass!

assholes.


Nope. Sorry, no sympathy. It's not like they don't know they signed up for a job where they have to annoy people.
 
2012-05-24 11:53:41 PM  

farkingismybusiness: Fined? What happened to Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989?


Heh!

Offer not good outside of the U.S.
 
2012-05-24 11:54:50 PM  

HumanBeingsSuck: Why does anyone still have a land line? I haven't had one since 2003.

I have a cell phone and pay less per month for it than I would for a land line.

I just don't get it.


A lot of the time it's lumped in with cable and internet.
 
2012-05-24 11:55:57 PM  

HumanBeingsSuck: Why does anyone still have a land line? I haven't had one since 2003.

I have a cell phone and pay less per month for it than I would for a land line.

I just don't get it.


Cell phones get telemarketing calls too, as well as spam text messages. And I speak from experience since I've received both despite being on the do not call list and reporting the spam texts to the FCC.
 
2012-05-24 11:57:59 PM  

schubie: I wouldn't fark with a telemarketer. They have your name, address and phone number. And nothing to lose b/c they're a telemarketer.


I have firearms. Plus, I know more about her than her company knows about me because i know how to use the internet and I know that she is required by law to tell me her full name, the company she is working for, and what city she is calling from when I ask. I almost always know more about the person calling me than they know about me by the time they get creeped out and hang up. I honestly can't imagine what drives a person to take a telemarketing job...it can't be worse than going back to school and actually learning some skills.
 
2012-05-24 11:58:00 PM  
Number you don't recognize?

"Hello, this is Domino's, can you hold?"
 
2012-05-25 12:00:05 AM  
Them: Good evening! We would like to ask you--

Me: Oh thank GOD!

Them: Um, ask you your opinion on the upcoming election--

Me: You're gonna help me find my dog, right? [Away from phone] It's okay, kids! This guy is gonna help us find the dog! [Launch into long, highly descriptive monologue letting him know what Fluffy looks and acts like. Fluffy is apparently a cross between Godzilla and Snoopy, with the temperament of a rabid wolverine] Mister? Mister?

Alternatively, I Sid Caesar them in Deustcheskugel.

On the DNC.

No remorse, no pity for political callers.
 
2012-05-25 12:03:12 AM  
Know who else was just doing their job?

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-25 12:03:29 AM  

Begoggle: Also the "DNC list" is a joke. Why should we have to request not to be harassed? Do we also need a "Do Not Steal List" too?


Because it is not harassment unless it is done repeatedly.

By a single entity.

A hundred people annoying you once each is not harassment.

And assault > harassment/annoyance.
 
2012-05-25 12:03:34 AM  

schubie: I wouldn't fark with a telemarketer. They have your name, address and phone number. And nothing to lose b/c they're a telemarketer.


How are they going to get out of the prison to get to me?
 
pla
2012-05-25 12:05:50 AM  
First of all, how many of you have called a fax machine or modem? Those transmit as loud as physically possible for the purpose of data integrity. Can you still hear, or did you go deaf as a result? Yeah, thought so.

Second...

Enemabag Jones : There are many ways to mess with telemarketers that don't involve being a total bastard to them.

For some jobs, "just doing my job" doesn't cut it, and telemarketer counts as one of those. If you commit this particular war-crime of an atrocity as part of how you make a living, you deserve whatever happens to you as a result. Someone finds you, hunts you down, rapes your dog, and cements your front door shut before tossing a molotov through the window, for calling them 27 times between 5 and 8pm every night for three months? Good! You deserve it, and more. I only pray that we have a merciful god, so your personal hell involves doing your normal "job" for eternity.
 
2012-05-25 12:07:12 AM  
Telemarketers generate hundreds of billions of dollars in the US alone and that's the problem: it works. If people would just stop buying from them, telemarketers would disappear.
 
2012-05-25 12:08:23 AM  
My usual response to telemarketers (prior to the DNC Registry) was "ah... Mein Englisch ist nicht so gut... Sprechen sie Deutsch?" Also works on signature gatherers outside of stores and door-to-door solicitors. Still get the occasional call, I like the whistle idea.
 
2012-05-25 12:08:29 AM  
 
2012-05-25 12:08:38 AM  
bullmurph.com
fark em' in the ear....Fark em' in the other ear...
 
pla
2012-05-25 12:15:05 AM  
ArcadianRefugee : Because it is not harassment unless it is done repeatedly.

"Does it bother you when I plug your arse like this? Oh? Well then, pardon me, my (gruuuuUUUNT) bad, have a nice day!"

And yes, I DID just go there. Whether you violate my time or my body, I consider you beneath contempt, and unworth of any semblance of the respect normally granted to my fellow humans.

/ Go ahead... Call me.
// I actually have fun wasting your time, and sincerely hope you get fired for such a long unproductive call and die on the streets as a result.
/// Proportion? When you can grasp "take me off your Farking list", I will consider a "proportional" punishment.
//// Don't care how much you don't make. Bag groceries. Not my problem.
 
2012-05-25 12:15:32 AM  

pla: First of all, how many of you have called a fax machine or modem? Those transmit as loud as physically possible for the purpose of data integrity. Can you still hear, or did you go deaf as a result? Yeah, thought so.


Speaking of fax machines, I let my fax/printer/scanner answer an unfamiliar caller ID number recently and I swear the volume (i.e, quantity) of calls from assumed telemarketers/scammers has gone done since then.
 
2012-05-25 12:15:32 AM  

jackandwater: nread2010: The people are just there to work. They don't manually type in your number over and over and over again. Put on your big boy pants and put yourself on your states do not farking call list ya lazy bums.

You can go to the www.donotcall.gov and register your number. It takes 30 days before you can file a complaint against a telemarketing company, but after that it does work. AND you can request the telemarketer to put your number on their "do not call" list. If they call again after the request, ask for a supervisor, they will fix things right away.

//just checked the site to be sure of the address, they had, in red letters, this: Scammers have been making phone calls claiming to represent the National Do Not Call Registry. The calls claim to provide an opportunity to sign up for the Registry. These calls are not coming from the Registry or the Federal Trade Commission, and you should not respond to these calls. To add your number to the Registry you can call 888-382-1222 from the phone you wish to register, or go click on "Register a Phone Number" in the left column of this page.LOL


I did that and I am still getting calls from 001 or 000 numbers. WTH?
 
2012-05-25 12:17:17 AM  
I play a recording of a cat into the phone. After a couple of meows, the telemarketer usually figures out that I will not give them any money they go on to another possble sucker.

If the call center employee was using a headset- that device should have limited the voluime of the earpiece. The manufacturer should be partly liable for the fine.
 
2012-05-25 12:20:10 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Does the court take Visa? Because I'll prepay and save on paperwork.


Another benefit would be that you would get your fine paid back if you spent enough, or a good fraction thereof. While it won't obliterate the conviction, it'll take out some financial sting. If you have a high enough credit limit and really wanted to be a screwball, you could openly point that out.
 
2012-05-25 12:22:01 AM  

Balchinian: I honestly can't imagine what drives a person to take a telemarketing job


Desperation, since there are no telemarketers that are not screwballs to their own employees.
 
2012-05-25 12:23:59 AM  
yes you sure showed the guy who tells the guy to tell the guy to tell the guy to call random numbers who's boss! you've put a stop to telemarketing through your noble act of deafening some random ass guy who needs a paycheck bad enough to do telemarketing! you're a hero!
 
2012-05-25 12:24:29 AM  

rohar: A whistle? A farking whistle? Amateur.

[www.old-computers.com image 640x406]


I see your modem and raise you one Captain Crunch whistle.
www.telephonetribute.com
/hotlinked
 
2012-05-25 12:26:14 AM  
just for the sake of clarification, while phones do have volume limiters in many occasions call center workers will actually use amplifiers and headsets so that they can hear what the person on the other end is saying, therefore it is entirely possible that the call center worker really did have some serious damage done to her hearing. While i sympathize with anyone getting a lot of calls from telemarketers ruining some poor SOBs hearing for life is going way to far, the judge should have given a fine at least 10 times greater than the laughably small fine that was given.
 
2012-05-25 12:26:22 AM  
t2.gstatic.com

Take it to the next level.

t2.gstatic.com

For the over-achiever.
 
2012-05-25 12:31:16 AM  

golem222: just for the sake of clarification, while phones do have volume limiters in many occasions call center workers will actually use amplifiers and headsets so that they can hear what the person on the other end is saying, therefore it is entirely possible that the call center worker really did have some serious damage done to her hearing. While i sympathize with anyone getting a lot of calls from telemarketers ruining some poor SOBs hearing for life is going way to far, the judge should have given a fine at least 10 times greater than the laughably small fine that was given.


telemarketer-like typing detected
 
2012-05-25 12:31:39 AM  

Mutt Farkinov: I've heard of people who hand the phone to their preschool-age child and tell them something like, "Oooh, Santa Clause is on the phone and wants to talk to you!"


There's an idea. I've got a two year old. You put her on the phone with anyone, she'll blather on about every single word she can think of. She'll talk about her kitty, about colors, numbers, letters, her feet... I do it to my wife sometimes. Eventually I can hear her going "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TAKE THE PHONE AWAY FROM HER".
 
2012-05-25 12:32:08 AM  

Genju: t2.gstatic.com

For the over-achiever.


At that point, an on-site presence would be required.
 
2012-05-25 12:32:44 AM  

pla: ArcadianRefugee : Because it is not harassment unless it is done repeatedly.

"Does it bother you when I plug your arse like this? Oh? Well then, pardon me, my (gruuuuUUUNT) bad, have a nice day!"

And yes, I DID just go there. Whether you violate my time or my body, I consider you beneath contempt, and unworth of any semblance of the respect normally granted to my fellow humans.

/ Go ahead... Call me.
// I actually have fun wasting your time, and sincerely hope you get fired for such a long unproductive call and die on the streets as a result.
/// Proportion? When you can grasp "take me off your Farking list", I will consider a "proportional" punishment.
//// Don't care how much you don't make. Bag groceries. Not my problem.


"Good evening sir! I'd like to discuss the benefits of renewing your subscription to Internet Tough Guy Magazine for the next five years..."
 
2012-05-25 12:33:22 AM  
Too bad you can't hurt the ears of a robo-call.

Lately, for us in Austin, it's the political/charity robo-calls that you can't "opt out" of (for some reason). Those really piss me off, I've got a shiatton of other things to do in the day than to stand around and listen to the latest political douche robo-call, when every other commercial on TV is the same idiot slinging mud at his opponent or showing us how "moral" he is.


/I soooooo want to do that!
 
2012-05-25 12:37:15 AM  

sethstorm: rohar: A whistle? A farking whistle? Amateur.

[www.old-computers.com image 640x406]

I see your modem and raise you one Captain Crunch whistle.
[www.telephonetribute.com image 350x132]
/hotlinked


i2.kym-cdn.com


/nostalgia want!
 
2012-05-25 12:39:28 AM  
I had a friend rolling today when the incessant security company callers called once again... Mocking their Indian (from India) accent I kept asking them to eat a bag of shiat and enjoy it.... he finally gave up and told me to have a wonderful day and I told him to have a wonderful day eating his bag of shiat...

I've done the above pictured air horn blasts... the air horns are only $1 at Dollar Tree and well worth wasting a few bucks for the pleasure it gives you to piss off another human being that called to piss you off!
 
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