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(Foobies)   47 year old teen cracks unsolved math problems first posed by Isaac Newton   (thelocal.de ) divider line
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2012-05-24 01:22:21 PM  
I got as far as "47 year old teen cracks" in subby's headline and cracked myself.
Then I saw the pic and it alllll made sense.
 
2012-05-24 01:24:14 PM  
www.thelocal.de

16?
What the hell have his parents been feeding him? Fresh bowls of big bull balls???
He looks like he's damn near ready for early retirement!
 
2012-05-24 01:36:40 PM  
His mustache must help him math more.
 
2012-05-24 01:46:53 PM  
"47 year old teen"

i48.tinypic.com

werr prayed
 
2012-05-24 01:57:27 PM  
I want to find his paper. Difficulty: It's in German.
 
2012-05-24 02:03:51 PM  
But Ray doesn't think he's a genius, and told the paper he has weak points as a mathematician, as well as in sports and social sciences.

NERD!

/nerd
//the 'stache doesn't help
 
2012-05-24 02:37:36 PM  

Lukeonia1: But Ray doesn't think he's a genius, and told the paper he has weak points as a mathematician, as well as in sports and social sciences.

NERD!

/nerd
//the 'stache doesn't help


You mean a genius math guy has trouble in sports and personal relationship? That never happens!
 
2012-05-24 04:19:27 PM  

Thelyphthoric: I got as far as "47 year old teen cracks" in subby's headline and cracked myself.
Then I saw the pic and it alllll made sense.


The story might have been more surprising if he actually was 47. Mathematicians tend to do their best work in their 20s.

Also, by linear extrapolation, he will have a full handlebar mustache by July, and be eligible for ZZ Top in early 2013.
 
2012-05-24 04:24:46 PM  

GGracie: [www.thelocal.de image 468x284]

16? What the hell have his parents been feeding him? Fresh bowls of big bull balls??? He looks like he's damn near ready for early retirement!


Great. Now we have "math birthers". WHAR LONG-FORM PROOF OF COROLLARY? WHAR?
 
2012-05-24 04:37:09 PM  

chimp_ninja: Thelyphthoric: I got as far as "47 year old teen cracks" in subby's headline and cracked myself.
Then I saw the pic and it alllll made sense.

The story might have been more surprising if he actually was 47. Mathematicians tend to do their best work in their 20s.

Also, by linear extrapolation, he will have a full handlebar mustache by July, and be eligible for ZZ Top in early 2013.


I'm almost 43 and I've just started doing my best work. Oh who am I kidding. *sobs*
 
2012-05-24 04:57:24 PM  
Guys, that pic is legit. Here's his baby picture:

i177.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-24 04:58:44 PM  
I didn't realize Greg Oden was a math PhD.
 
2012-05-24 04:58:57 PM  
Someone needs to tell the panty-waisted English that it's "Math" not "Maths."

There is no such thing as "Maths."
 
2012-05-24 05:01:53 PM  

TravisBickle62: Someone needs to tell the panty-waisted English that it's "Math" not "Maths."

There is no such thing as "Maths."


Given that "The Local" is "Germany's News in English", my assumption is that a German wrote it...
 
2012-05-24 05:04:47 PM  
pbfcomics.com
 
2012-05-24 05:05:30 PM  
I had a full beard at that age.

I suck at math though.
 
2012-05-24 05:06:56 PM  
As is sometimes the case, not knowing you can't do something is the key to actually doing it.
 
2012-05-24 05:08:26 PM  
The article tells us less than nothing because its extraordinarily simple description of what this kid supposedly did sounds like something anyone could do after a year of calculus, and there would be no need of an article if that were the case.
 
2012-05-24 05:08:37 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: I had a full beard at that age.


Tentacles don't count.

I suck at math though.

Should've tried Euclidean geometry instead.
 
2012-05-24 05:09:47 PM  

YoungLochinvar: TravisBickle62: Someone needs to tell the panty-waisted English that it's "Math" not "Maths."

There is no such thing as "Maths."

Given that "The Local" is "Germany's News in English", my assumption is that a German wrote it...


Well in that case we should carpet bomb those farkers
 
2012-05-24 05:12:21 PM  

GGracie: What the hell have his parents been feeding him? Fresh bowls of big bull squirrel balls???


FTFA. Cattles are sacred in India.
 
2012-05-24 05:16:38 PM  
Wow, what a pointless thing to solve. Try curing cancer next time brainiac!
 
2012-05-24 05:16:59 PM  

TravisBickle62: Someone needs to tell the panty-waisted English that it's "Math" not "Maths."

There is no such thing as "Maths."


And yet using the word mathematic (for the subject, without the s) is really strange


/ and what is it with Indians and heir staches?
 
2012-05-24 05:21:17 PM  

GypsyJoker: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: I had a full beard at that age.

Tentacles don't count.

I suck at math though.

Should've tried Euclidean geometry instead.


The Weeners was good, the second was brilliant.
 
2012-05-24 05:21:39 PM  
FINISH THE FARKING STORY, MAN! WHAT HAPPENED? WHAT'S THE SOLUTION?
 
2012-05-24 05:25:04 PM  
I need to lay off the Adrenechrome.
 
2012-05-24 05:28:15 PM  

chimp_ninja: The story might have been more surprising if he actually was 47. Mathematicians tend to do their best work in their 20s.


They say this as well about physicists, etc, but I've also seen a fair number of articles calling this the academic equivalent of an "old wives' tale".
 
2012-05-24 05:32:37 PM  
All I know is that I'm well into my thirties, and whenever I look at a Wikipedia page on any mathematics topic more advanced than basic algebra, my brain crinkles up and stops working.

/that is literally all that I know.
 
2012-05-24 05:34:40 PM  
In 8th grade, we had this dude transfer in who had a full beard and was balding. He was allegedly 14 years-old. I knew, even back then, that he was not 14 years-old. He was the world's shiattiest narc. Either that or some freaky-ass pervert.
 
2012-05-24 05:39:30 PM  
I hear he's running for class president

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-24 05:40:06 PM  
So did he solve the n-body problem for n>2 or something else?

All I can google up are puff pieces, with nothing about his proof or why it was hard up before now?
 
2012-05-24 05:40:19 PM  

biyaaatci: In 8th grade, we had this dude transfer in who had a full beard and was balding. He was allegedly 14 years-old. I knew, even back then, that he was not 14 years-old. He was the world's shiattiest narc. Either that or some freaky-ass pervert.


Epilepsy drugs can thin out hair.

But I knew a few people that had their hair dropping out by the time they started puberty. It happens.
 
2012-05-24 05:40:24 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: They say this as well about physicists, etc, but I've also seen a fair number of articles calling this the academic equivalent of an "old wives' tale".


That's because it is.
 
2012-05-24 05:43:06 PM  
Professor Flitwick?
 
2012-05-24 05:43:49 PM  
Had a buddy in HS who could grow a full beard in a day at the age of 15. We at first thought he was a narc, but he ended up as our go to guy for booze and smokes
 
2012-05-24 05:50:25 PM  

Shazam999: biyaaatci: In 8th grade, we had this dude transfer in who had a full beard and was balding. He was allegedly 14 years-old. I knew, even back then, that he was not 14 years-old. He was the world's shiattiest narc. Either that or some freaky-ass pervert.

Epilepsy drugs can thin out hair.

But I knew a few people that had their hair dropping out by the time they started puberty. It happens.


Yeah, but this guy was always asking to take polaroids of our junk and where he could score some doobies and the reefer and such.
 
2012-05-24 05:55:15 PM  
A German->English autotranslation with a few more details:

Shouryya Ray, 16-year-old student of Martin Andersen Nexo-school-made, the Chair of Fluid Mechanics in the context of a "special learning performance" work for the movement of particles in. In it he addresses two issues: the trajectory of a particle with non-vanishing velocity of the surrounding fluid, and a differential equation to model the lossy contact between two particles. For both problems are Shouryya Ray on an analytical approximation.

Thesis was supervised by Dipl.-Ing. Sascha Heitkam, Dr.-Ing. Tobias Kempe and Prof. Dr.-Ing. Jochen Fröhlich.

In the competition "Young Scientists" found the results very well received
Report "Youth Research" magazine article magazine article DNN WORLD
 
2012-05-24 06:03:04 PM  

poot_rootbeer: All I know is that I'm well into my thirties, and whenever I look at a Wikipedia page on any mathematics topic more advanced than basic algebra, my brain crinkles up and stops working.

/that is literally all that I know.


This is a Wikipedia Math problem. If you look at the physics, chemistry and biology pages they tend to be approachable, but the math pages assume too much subject knowledge and use too much jargon.

Need to start tagging them: {{technical}}
 
2012-05-24 06:20:56 PM  
Now hurry up and find a formula to factor fifth degree polynomials.
 
2012-05-24 06:24:30 PM  

haemaker: but the math pages assume too much subject knowledge and use too much jargon.


Also how they're usually written doesn't help. Instead of just explaining everything in words and then going to the math itself, they explain part of it, show a bunch of math, explain more of it etc.
 
2012-05-24 06:27:25 PM  

m1ke: Wow, what a pointless thing to solve. Try curing cancer next time brainiac!


Yeah, because medical doctors and mathematicians are one and the same. At least your ignorance shines like a beacon, letting all know of your impending arrival.
 
2012-05-24 06:29:13 PM  
That brings up a new problem. How can there be a 47 year old teen?
 
2012-05-24 06:40:20 PM  

oryx: That brings up a new problem. How can there be a 47 year old teen?


Well, it has to do with Quantum Leap Year. I'd explain it, but it's pretty technical.
 
2012-05-24 06:42:02 PM  

Mikey1969: m1ke: Wow, what a pointless thing to solve. Try curing cancer next time brainiac!

Yeah, because medical doctors and mathematicians are one and the same. At least your ignorance shines like a beacon, letting all know of your impending arrival.


A sense of humor is linked to intelligence. Thought I'd mention it....
 
2012-05-24 06:44:01 PM  
The article sux. It doesn't tell us what the two problems are. Also, if they have never been solved before, how is it that a computer is doing it now as they say? A computer has to have been told how to solve it before it can solve it and if nobody knew how to solve it before, then nobody could have told it how.

I call bullshiat.
 
2012-05-24 06:46:07 PM  

chimp_ninja: Thelyphthoric: I got as far as "47 year old teen cracks" in subby's headline and cracked myself.
Then I saw the pic and it alllll made sense.

The story might have been more surprising if he actually was 47. Mathematicians tend to do their best work in their 20s.

Also, by linear extrapolation, he will have a full handlebar mustache by July, and be eligible for ZZ Top in early 2013.


This is completely false. Most mathematicians finish grad school in their mid-20's. Depending on how many separate areas their research ends up uniting/requiring, many mathematicians won't peak until their 40's if not later.

As a mathematician, I'd be interested in what this kid actually did.

For all of you ranting about the Wiki articles on math, I'm sorry but math just isn't fun to read. Nearly every Wiki page I've seen has been done very well, it's quite impressive!
 
2012-05-24 06:49:06 PM  

Big_Fat_Liar: A sense of humor is linked to intelligence. Thought I'd mention it....


Sarcasm doesn't translate to the written word very well without an indicator that it is meant as sarcasm(Or humor), especially on internet message boards.

/Thought I'd mention it...
 
2012-05-24 06:55:14 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Also, if they have never been solved before, how is it that a computer is doing it now as they say? A computer has to have been told how to solve it before it can solve it and if nobody knew how to solve it before, then nobody could have told it how.


There's a difference between an iterative approximation and a direct solution. I write simulators for physical processes. There are many times where we cannot directly compute an answer to a problem, but we can use something like Newton's Method to approximate the answer. Those approximations are, obviously, less accurate, and generally more expensive to compute so a direct solution is usually more desirable.
 
2012-05-24 07:04:22 PM  
I doubt the article. Typically, solvability is something that can be proven. It may be a special case, or it may be that his result is something that is typically not the desired solution.

In any case, the elastic collision isn't that hard to model. I'm curious what his actual result is.
 
2012-05-24 07:13:25 PM  

TravisBickle62: Someone needs to tell the panty-waisted English that it's "Math" not "Maths."

There is no such thing as "Maths."


It's a Swedish paper actually, but you're right in the UK and here in Australia people say maths.

I do agree with you though. It doesn't really make any sense to say maths- we don't refer to science as sciences, or literature as literatures after all.
 
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