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(Breitbart.com)   Rep. Peter King (R-NY) is concerned upcoming film about the death of bin Laden will be too pro-Obama and not give proper credit to Bush's tax cuts and Sarah Palin's bear rug   (breitbart.com) divider line 196
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2012-05-24 04:19:23 PM  

Rent Party: I alone am best:
Who was the commander of the seal team 6 unit that killed OBL?

Your link doesn't provide it, because that name was redacted, you moron. The only names provided was Adm McRaven, JSOC commander. And it isn't like that's a damn secret.

Bio


I am pretty sure that they didnt go there to meet with Admiral Mcraven as that wouldn't need to be a secret would it. The article I posted was misleading though, I found other sources that stated the meeting never went through.
 
2012-05-24 04:19:36 PM  
shakes tiny fist at Dog Welder
 
2012-05-24 04:21:06 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: theknuckler_33: I alone am best: You mean the movie that was researched with the help of the Obama admin where he gave access and information about the leader of the Seal Team 6 operator and commander?

Naaa nothing wrong with disclosing confidential information to civilians to help your chances of being elected for a second term.

What was the confidential information, exactly?

He can't tell you--it's confidential.

Duh.


I cant, there is a reason the name was redacted in the FOIA request.
 
2012-05-24 04:27:22 PM  
A Republican upset at news that unvetted supporters of a political party gained access to information about CIA operations which they intend to make public? That didn't stop them exposing Valerie Plame for political purposes, did it?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-18560_162-3378089.html

//bunch of whining hypocrites
 
2012-05-24 04:32:13 PM  

I alone am best: theknuckler_33: *sigh*

I don't know what his name was, but he wasn't "the commander of the seal team 6 unit that killed OBL", he was "planner, SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander", later referred to as "a consultant". He wasn't the commander who led the raid.

Secondly, there are various degrees of "Classified" information in the US. The guys name is probably 'confidential' which is described as being information that could be damaging if released to the public. Giving that information to a few people does not violate that. That is the difference between one person or a small group of people (like lawmakers) a piece of 'classified' information that is confidential and releasing it to the general public. Yes, the Obama administration did the former, not the latter. There is no legal violation there as much as you want there to be one. And you still haven't shown that this information was kept from lawmakers.

He was not a consultant for the operation. They asked the two filmmakers not to name him as a consultant for the film.

What role do you think someone who is credited with being the planner, operator and commander of a seal team 6 unit plays in its operations?


It is extremely telling that you chose THAT point to focus on while ignoring the other one which is more pertinent to your original complain.
 
2012-05-24 04:57:04 PM  

theknuckler_33: I alone am best: theknuckler_33: *sigh*

I don't know what his name was, but he wasn't "the commander of the seal team 6 unit that killed OBL", he was "planner, SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander", later referred to as "a consultant". He wasn't the commander who led the raid.

Secondly, there are various degrees of "Classified" information in the US. The guys name is probably 'confidential' which is described as being information that could be damaging if released to the public. Giving that information to a few people does not violate that. That is the difference between one person or a small group of people (like lawmakers) a piece of 'classified' information that is confidential and releasing it to the general public. Yes, the Obama administration did the former, not the latter. There is no legal violation there as much as you want there to be one. And you still haven't shown that this information was kept from lawmakers.

He was not a consultant for the operation. They asked the two filmmakers not to name him as a consultant for the film.

What role do you think someone who is credited with being the planner, operator and commander of a seal team 6 unit plays in its operations?

It is extremely telling that you chose THAT point to focus on while ignoring the other one which is more pertinent to your original complain.


So what was the two filmmakers clearance level?

I cant really complain to much about the Presidents release of classified information. He can declassify information at will. I just don't like that he did it for his reelection when other lawmakers were asking for the information.
 
2012-05-24 05:00:07 PM  

LincolnLogolas: Danger Mouse: The fact that this adminstration even acknolwedged it was a Navy Seal operation is beyond acceptable.

Seriously, the fact that they even acknowledged that OBL was killed is beyond comprehension!


I was about to say that I'm incensed that they killed OBL in the first place, but the real root of my outrage stems from those jerks building those towers in the way of those highjacked planes.
 
2012-05-24 05:03:00 PM  
A movie about the bin Laden raid, in order to be accurate, would be about 3 hours long, with no mention of Obama until about the last 30 minutes.

Unless of course they wanted to include the part where he was against everything that happened in the first 2 1/2 hours.
 
2012-05-24 05:09:14 PM  

I alone am best: theknuckler_33: I alone am best: theknuckler_33: *sigh*

I don't know what his name was, but he wasn't "the commander of the seal team 6 unit that killed OBL", he was "planner, SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander", later referred to as "a consultant". He wasn't the commander who led the raid.

Secondly, there are various degrees of "Classified" information in the US. The guys name is probably 'confidential' which is described as being information that could be damaging if released to the public. Giving that information to a few people does not violate that. That is the difference between one person or a small group of people (like lawmakers) a piece of 'classified' information that is confidential and releasing it to the general public. Yes, the Obama administration did the former, not the latter. There is no legal violation there as much as you want there to be one. And you still haven't shown that this information was kept from lawmakers.

He was not a consultant for the operation. They asked the two filmmakers not to name him as a consultant for the film.

What role do you think someone who is credited with being the planner, operator and commander of a seal team 6 unit plays in its operations?

It is extremely telling that you chose THAT point to focus on while ignoring the other one which is more pertinent to your original complain.

So what was the two filmmakers clearance level?

I cant really complain to much about the Presidents release of classified information. He can declassify information at will. I just don't like that he did it for his reelection when other lawmakers were asking for the information.


I know you're on a rant, but the election is in November, 2012. The movie comes out in December, 2012. It isn't related to the election.
 
2012-05-24 05:12:38 PM  

randomjsa: A movie about the bin Laden raid, in order to be accurate, would be about 3 hours long, with no mention of Obama until about the last 30 minutes.

Unless of course they wanted to include the part where he was against everything that happened in the first 2 1/2 hours.


What was Obama against in relation to getting OBL?
 
2012-05-24 05:13:44 PM  

randomjsa: A movie about the bin Laden raid, in order to be accurate, would be about 3 hours long, with no mention of Obama until about the last 30 minutes.

Unless of course they wanted to include the part where he was against everything that happened in the first 2 1/2 hours.


The movie has to start with the founding of the United States Army in1775. Why do you want to deny George Washington his well deserved credit for creating the organization that killed Bin Ladin?
 
2012-05-24 05:15:24 PM  

I alone am best: theknuckler_33: It is extremely telling that you chose THAT point to focus on while ignoring the other one which is more pertinent to your original complain.

So what was the two filmmakers clearance level?

I cant really complain to much about the Presidents release of classified information. He can declassify information at will. I just don't like that he did it for his reelection when other lawmakers were asking for the information.


A - the movie comes out after the election
B - for at least the third time... which lawmakers? still looking for that citation.
 
2012-05-24 05:15:50 PM  

gunga galunga: LincolnLogolas: Danger Mouse: The fact that this adminstration even acknolwedged it was a Navy Seal operation is beyond acceptable.

Seriously, the fact that they even acknowledged that OBL was killed is beyond comprehension!

I was about to say that I'm incensed that they killed OBL in the first place, but the real root of my outrage stems from those jerks building those towers in the way of those highjacked planes.


I know! And why did they put that open field there formthe other plane to hit? If Obama had any sense and wasn't an America hating douchebag, he'd have gone back in time and had that field filled with pillows.
 
2012-05-24 05:19:06 PM  

goochmeister42: [24.media.tumblr.com image 320x240]

All he needs now is the juice of Safu.


i601.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-24 05:21:35 PM  

randomjsa: A movie about the bin Laden raid, in order to be accurate, would be about 3 hours long, with no mention of Obama until about the last 30 minutes.

Unless of course they wanted to include the part where he was against everything that happened in the first 2 1/2 hours.


The first 2 1/2 hours should be this on a loop..

The first two hours of the Deciderer decidering.

The last half hour should be this

Grumpy McGrumpypants derides the community organizer for suggesting we do... exactly what happened.


You guys go on and continue to tell yourself that the GOP had a damn thing to do with getting bin Laden. The rest of the civilized world has the farking truth on video.
 
2012-05-24 05:29:58 PM  

what_now: alywa:

HEY!!

I haven't seen you in a while. EXCELLENT work. I give it 9.5/10


The misspellings were just the perfect touch of spice on a perfectly cooked roast.
 
2012-05-24 05:33:23 PM  

Jackson Herring: [bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com image 306x423]

Good lord there must be an adjective that describes how this guy looks... "browy"?


www.encyclopediaofalabama.org


I don't know why, but his mug reminds me of former governor George Wallace of Alabama
 
2012-05-24 05:36:01 PM  

I alone am best: theknuckler_33: I alone am best: theknuckler_33: *sigh*

I don't know what his name was, but he wasn't "the commander of the seal team 6 unit that killed OBL", he was "planner, SEAL Team 6 Operator and Commander", later referred to as "a consultant". He wasn't the commander who led the raid.

Secondly, there are various degrees of "Classified" information in the US. The guys name is probably 'confidential' which is described as being information that could be damaging if released to the public. Giving that information to a few people does not violate that. That is the difference between one person or a small group of people (like lawmakers) a piece of 'classified' information that is confidential and releasing it to the general public. Yes, the Obama administration did the former, not the latter. There is no legal violation there as much as you want there to be one. And you still haven't shown that this information was kept from lawmakers.

He was not a consultant for the operation. They asked the two filmmakers not to name him as a consultant for the film.

What role do you think someone who is credited with being the planner, operator and commander of a seal team 6 unit plays in its operations?

It is extremely telling that you chose THAT point to focus on while ignoring the other one which is more pertinent to your original complain.

So what was the two filmmakers clearance level?

I cant really complain to much about the Presidents release of classified information. He can declassify information at will. I just don't like that he did it for his reelection when other lawmakers were asking for the information.


The government, military and local law enforcement work with filmmakers all the time. "Transformers" thanks the Army in the credits and "Battleship" thanks the Navy.

So I think the real question is, why do Obama and his liberal ally Michael Bay refuse to give George Bush due credit in America's victory over the Decepticons?

www.scenicreflections.com
 
2012-05-24 05:37:01 PM  
 
2012-05-24 05:49:35 PM  

randomjsa: A movie about the bin Laden raid, in order to be accurate, would be about 3 hours long, with no mention of Obama until about the last 30 minutes.

Unless of course they wanted to include the part where he was against everything that happened in the first 2 1/2 hours.



You'd have to also include the famous Bush quotes about Bin Laden not being important and him not caring where he is anymore. Not to mention the closing of the CIA unit before 9/11 and the ignoring of the warnings including the report on his desk.

That wouldn't make you too happy now would it?
 
2012-05-24 05:51:39 PM  
I really hate how he's now my congressman
 
2012-05-24 06:01:46 PM  
Say what you will about Saint Sarah but I'm willing to wager its a landing strip and not a bear rug... She seems very anal about her appearance.
 
2012-05-24 06:24:52 PM  

Rent Party: You guys go on and continue to tell yourself that the GOP had a damn thing to do with getting bin Laden.


Like when in 2005 when they started collecting the information and identified the courier in 2007 that eventually was acted upon by Obama? Yeah, nothing to do with it.
 
2012-05-24 06:29:01 PM  

I alone am best: Rent Party: You guys go on and continue to tell yourself that the GOP had a damn thing to do with getting bin Laden.

Like when in 2005 when they started collecting the information and identified the courier in 2007 that eventually was acted upon by Obama? Yeah, nothing to do with it.


"Al-Kuwaiti was seen in Tora Bora and it is possible al-Kuwaiti was one of the individuals detainee reported accompanying UBL in Tora Bora prior to UBL's disappearance," it says.


The brilliant success of the Tora Bora operation under Bush should be a key scene, don't you think?
 
2012-05-24 07:42:27 PM  

r1chard3:

#6. Didn't seem to be a racist and kept a lid on the racist impulses of the GOP.


The fact that there was a white man in their White House is what kept that sh*t down. It wasn't "him", but "what he was". Almost any white man would do, and he did. Once he left, the stopper was out of the bottle and the torrent of bullsh*t began.
 
2012-05-24 07:54:49 PM  

AeAe: STFU Peter King. how the hell does this asshole keep getting re-elected?


AeAe: STFU Peter King. how the hell does this asshole keep getting re-elected?


People like his SI column, in which he never takes a committed stance on anything.
 
2012-05-24 07:59:05 PM  

LucklessWonder: AeAe: STFU Peter King. how the hell does this asshole keep getting re-elected?

AeAe: STFU Peter King. how the hell does this asshole keep getting re-elected?

People like his SI column, in which he never takes a committed stance on anything.


Damn it, I wanted to make that joke.
 
2012-05-24 08:36:43 PM  

Jackpot777: He only registers at 0.47 Brezhnevs (the standard measuring unit of eyebrows).


I can't stop laughing! Bravo!
 
2012-05-24 08:56:46 PM  

randomjsa: A movie about the bin Laden raid, in order to be accurate, would be about 3 hours long, with no mention of Obama until about the last 30 minutes.

Unless of course they wanted to include the part where he was against everything that happened in the first 2 1/2 hours.


I don't think it would take 2 and 1/2 hours to explain Bush's "I'm not worried about Bin Laden. Let's concentrate on my Daddy issues and start a war over false information" thingee. 30 seconds of video would suffice.
 
2012-05-24 09:24:52 PM  

DeaH: And yet these same people were all for televising a movie that showed Bush handling 9/11 decisively from the ground, instead of out-of-communication and hidden, as he was required to be by the Secret Service. There's something funny about a group of people who could run a reelection campaign on what is, arguably, the largest failure of American defense being the same group of people upset that someone is running a reelection campaign on what is a success of American defense.

Do these people even understand that they are supposed to root for America, not against it?


Of course not. America had the temerity to elect a black Democrat president. This is an unforgivable sin.
 
2012-05-24 09:31:12 PM  
But has Obama proved the obl isn't an American citizen? Where's his death certificate?
 
2012-05-24 10:02:40 PM  
Pete King is probably right. The movie may well affect voting outcomes.... which is exactly what "conservatives" fought for in Citizens United... the ability of "non-coordinated" well-funded corporations to exercise their free speech. Yes, Mr. King... the Democrats are obeying exactly the rulebook you worked so hard to create.
 
2012-05-24 10:55:01 PM  
Oh, joy. Another douchebag politician raising the global warming index with the noxious spew from his piehole.

Listen, putz: the only Peter King I pay attention to writes for Sports Illustrated.

/MMQB, mkay?
 
2012-05-25 01:03:40 AM  
Why all the liberal hate for Peter King?
The fact that your NFL team sucks is not his fault; he just writes about it.

//Go Giants!
 
2012-05-25 02:05:01 AM  

vartian: For a pro-King article, they sure picked a creepy farking pic of him.


are there any non-creepy pictures of him?
 
2012-05-25 07:07:59 AM  

Jackson Herring: Good lord there must be an adjective that describes how this guy looks... "browy"?


In polite company I believe the phrase is 'mentally disabled.'
 
2012-05-25 07:29:47 AM  

vernonFL: I alone am best

Oh so NOW you are worried about leaking classified information?


ohsnap.jpg
 
2012-05-25 09:30:12 AM  

AeAe: STFU Peter King. how the hell does this asshole keep getting re-elected?


Maybe this will help:

Rep. Pete King (-New York, 3rd) - Earmarks Requested
 
2012-05-25 09:45:48 AM  

Fart_Machine: The "investigation" even gets the release date wrong. It comes out in December which shuts down their whole PR conspiracy theory for the election.


It would help the DNC for the 2016 election.
 
2012-05-25 09:56:04 AM  
I don't get it conservatives, your party has been in bed with the military industrial complex since its conception. Now is the time to trick all Americans into believing that it was all worth it because we "got em". All of the lives, money, stripping of private citizens rights was all worth it. If we don't start the propaganda now people will be even more reluctant to blow the sh@t out of the next 3rd world country. How will you sell your bombs then? No we need this warm fuzzy even if it means forcing some partisan shills to accept the fact that it is a historical fact that Obama was president when he was killed.

Don't think about contemporary politics, think about your need to pursuade the American public to support a war with Iran once the GOP gets back in power. Think of your future profits because after all your the military industrial complex, profits are more valuable than human life.

God Bless America
 
2012-05-25 10:01:33 AM  
Oh, and when Obama made that campaign promise for a more transparent government....he meant giving away all of our military secrets as part of his secret muslim agenda.
 
2012-05-25 11:44:53 AM  

theknuckler_33: What was Obama against in relation to getting OBL?


The imprisonment of terrorists at Gitmo from whom we got intelligence leading to bin Laden.

Did I need to name something else or is the most damning piece enough for you?

Philip Francis Queeg: The movie has to start with the founding of the United States Army in1775. Why do you want to deny George Washington his well deserved credit for creating the organization that killed Bin Ladin?


Don't be a moron. The operation that ultimately led to OBL began shortly after 9/11. That would before Obama was even a senator and he was still in his church listening to his pastor blame America for what happened on 9/11. For years the work continued, intelligence was gathered, but it was not until 2011 that all that work finally came together.

Rent Party: You guys go on and continue to tell yourself that the GOP had a damn thing to do with getting bin Laden. The rest of the civilized world has the farking truth on video.

intelligent comment below: You'd have to also include the famous Bush quotes about Bin Laden not being important and him not caring where he is anymore. Not to mention the closing of the CIA unit before 9/11 and the ignoring of the warnings including the report on his desk.
That wouldn't make you too happy now would it?

djkutch: I don't think it would take 2 and 1/2 hours to explain Bush's "I'm not worried about Bin Laden. Let's concentrate on my Daddy issues and start a war over false information" thingee. 30 seconds of video would suffice.


Since all three of you are basically trying to make the same stupid and utterly debunked talking point. I'll address all three of you at the same time.

Because Bush at some point said he "wasn't concerned" about bin Laden then absolutely nothing was being done to go after him! Just ignore the facts, such as intelligence going back years and years before Obama was in office, and just focus on what Bush 'said' because the same guy liberals constantly call a liar couldn't have possibly been downplaying the effort. If I wanted to make OBL "easier" to find, I'd get on television and tell the whole wide world all about how we were coming to get him because that's sure to make him less cautious. Alternately if I wanted to make him "harder" to find I'd completely downplay the efforts and dismiss the idea that we were concerned about OBL, because that's sure to send him deeper in to hiding.

The McCain statement was particularly comical as liberals have been desperate to "prove" that Republicans wouldn't have sent a team in to Pakistan. As you probably noticed what politicians say, and what politicians do, are not always the same thing. As Obama has discovered, running your mouth is one thing, but when you're the person who actually has to make the decisions then you quickly figure out that sometimes you have to do things you might have a problem with on some level. It is probably accurate to say that Obama considered the issue of sending a military force, however small, in to a foreign country even for the sake of taking out bin Laden, but ultimately he decided... As almost anyone would have including every president in the last 236 years... That it was worth it.

Of course if it went wrong it would have been bad for "him" as Bill Clinton said... Bad for the Seal Team who could have been killed or captured? Of course not! Bad for Obama, who already had a fall guy set up just in case it did go wrong.

So relying on intelligence information and operations that went back years before he was president, making sure he was insulated if anything went wrong, Obama did precisely what he should have done. Which is not to diminish Obama's role in all of this, because he does deserve some credit but this absolute BS liberals are trying to promote that it was "ALL OBAMA!" is both laughable and sickening.

By the way I'm sure the same people who were OUTRAGED about the Plame case are equally OUTRAGED about the fact that in order to make this movie the Obama administration has essentially said "Screw national security or intelligence... Give these classified info for the glorification of dear leader! Including the name of a key person. A key person who is now outraged."
 
2012-05-25 12:55:20 PM  

randomjsa: The McCain statement was particularly comical as liberals have been desperate to "prove" that Republicans wouldn't have sent a team in to Pakistan. As you probably noticed what politicians say, and what politicians do, are not always the same thing. As Obama has discovered, running your mouth is one thing, but when you're the person who actually has to make the decisions then you quickly figure out that sometimes you have to do things you might have a problem with on some level. It is probably accurate to say that Obama considered the issue of sending a military force, however small, in to a foreign country even for the sake of taking out bin Laden, but ultimately he decided... As almost anyone would have including every president in the last 236 years... That it was worth it.


The Bush administration didn't get OBL at Tora Bora because of dithering and when it came to high value targets in Pakistan they chickened out. People say they would have done the same as Obama but history shows that they didn't.

randomjsa: By the way I'm sure the same people who were OUTRAGED about the Plame case are equally OUTRAGED about the fact that in order to make this movie the Obama administration has essentially said "Screw national security or intelligence... Give these classified info for the glorification of dear leader! Including the name of a key person. A key person who is now outraged."


What classified info has been given exactly? The Bush administration gave a film crew access for a 9/11 film. Did they give out classified info?
 
2012-05-25 03:21:36 PM  

Pincy: unlikely: Man that whole thing just burns them up, doesn't it.

Yep, they just can't stand that Obama got him. Seriously, I think they would all be much happier if OBL were still alive right now. I've never seen so many people treat the death of one of the most notorious terrorists in history as nothing more than a mere footnote of history.


It was important, sure, but what did it really accomplish at the end of the day? It pissed even more people off by showing we pretty much do what we want, when we want. It didn't stop terrorism, nor will killing one man ever kill an ideal. Championing the death of a man for the sake of politics is pathetic, at best, and the fact that both sides want to claim this is fricken' sick.
 
2012-05-25 09:22:21 PM  

Citrate1007: How will you sell your bombs then?



By having to react to the countless terrorist groups America helped create directly and indirectly through the last 11 years of constant war in SW Asia/ME.
 
2012-05-26 01:40:08 AM  
Mr. Coffee Nerves 2012-05-24 02:00:44 PM

Can you IMAGINE the jingoistic insanity if Bin Laden had been fragged while Bush was president?

Bin Laden's head would be on a pike that would be run through every state, Olympic-torch-style, until delivered to Washington where it would be converted to a bowling ball.


I used to joke that Bin Laden's skull would be worked over by the very finest jewellers, turned into a drinking cup that would make Genghis Khan jealous, and be kept in a glass case in the Pentagon as a trophy for the next thousand years.
 
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