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(MSNBC)   It is not legal to get into a drunk driving accident, then to bury the driver of the other car alive. Not even in China   (worldnews.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 45
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2012-05-24 09:21:47 AM
They die, it costs about $3200 to pay off the family, they live, it costs whatever their medical costs are.

"If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan ($3,125). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands of yuan." He supposedly hit her because he was busily nattering on a mobile phone.

That's a comment from over on Sanakau complex in an article about a driver who hit a child, then backed up over the child again after the kid started picking up his stuff and walking away. (then parked on the kid)
 
2012-05-24 09:26:42 AM
www.joblo.com

You're waking the neighbors! Shut up!
 
2012-05-24 09:34:26 AM
What if we buried them right on the US-Canadian border?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-24 10:37:09 AM
Not for ordinary people. It would be OK for a party official.
 
2012-05-24 10:41:38 AM
Japan?

Surely this is legal in Japan.
 
2012-05-24 10:42:54 AM
Worked for Ted Kennedy.

/burial at sea/
 
2012-05-24 10:46:08 AM
Too bad. If I understand Chinese brothers correctly, there was a one in five chance he'd be able to hold his breath all night.
 
2012-05-24 10:51:53 AM
vpb: Not for ordinary people. It would be OK for a party official.

Pretty much this, and the regular people over there are getting real angry about it.
After those two students were killed in LA all I heard from Chinese commenters on the web was "Screw them, they are probably the children of corrupt officials"
 
2012-05-24 10:52:06 AM
Trust the government's judgement. Nothing the government does can ever have negative or unintended consequences.

/because the government said so
//and the government says helping the injured makes you liable for the injury
 
2012-05-24 10:55:35 AM
It's not? Gotta run now.
 
2012-05-24 10:57:02 AM
 
2012-05-24 10:58:54 AM
HAMMERTOE: Worked for Ted Kennedy.

/burial at sea/


You beat me to it while I was looking for a picture...


"What? Not legal you say?"
www.myptsmail.com

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2012-05-24 11:00:39 AM
Zalan: They die, it costs about $3200 to pay off the family, they live, it costs whatever their medical costs are.

"If she is dead, I may pay only about 20,000 yuan ($3,125). But if she is injured, it may cost me hundreds of thousands of yuan." He supposedly hit her because he was busily nattering on a mobile phone.

That's a comment from over on Sanakau complex in an article about a driver who hit a child, then backed up over the child again after the kid started picking up his stuff and walking away. (then parked on the kid)


Their after school specials are probably much more interesting than ours.
 
2012-05-24 11:03:28 AM
This is why everybody should carry a gun in their car. You just never know when you will need to put an animal out of its misery.
 
2012-05-24 11:03:36 AM
What if the coffin had unlabeled lead content? Legal then?
 
2012-05-24 11:03:57 AM
At least now we finally know where to bury the survivors.
 
2012-05-24 11:05:55 AM
Grables'Daughter: Japan?

Surely this is legal in Japan.


Burying people in Japan?
I think not.
It's mandatory to cremate everyone. They don't have the land for burying people alive.
 
2012-05-24 11:05:57 AM
Diana Fyer: At least now we finally know where to bury the survivors.

*golf clap*
 
2012-05-24 11:08:33 AM
The "Nanjing judge" refers to an infamous 2006 incident where a young man named Peng Yu went to the aid of an elderly woman who had fallen down on the street in the eastern city of Nanjing. At the woman's request, Peng helped take her to the hospital only to have the woman turn around and accuse him for being the person who knocked her down. A Nanjing judge then ruled that "common sense" suggested that Peng only took the woman to the hospital because he was guilty and ordered him to pay her medical expenses.

No it doesn't.
 
2012-05-24 11:14:51 AM
Stupid faking Chinese idiots. Just because your government is allowed to do this does not mean that you can do it.
 
2012-05-24 11:17:12 AM
We all break multiple laws everyday without even knowing it, if you worried about whether or not everything we do were legal or illegal we'd never get anything done.

Just bury the guy and don't worry about it.
 
2012-05-24 11:17:45 AM
Surprised the guy didn't just drive off. I've seen countless videos of accidents in China on Liveleak and that's usually what happens.
 
2012-05-24 11:18:39 AM
SlothB77: The "Nanjing judge" refers to an infamous 2006 incident where a young man named Peng Yu went to the aid of an elderly woman who had fallen down on the street in the eastern city of Nanjing. At the woman's request, Peng helped take her to the hospital only to have the woman turn around and accuse him for being the person who knocked her down. A Nanjing judge then ruled that "common sense" suggested that Peng only took the woman to the hospital because he was guilty and ordered him to pay her medical expenses.

No it doesn't.


That's one way to get rid of those pesky Samaritans.
 
2012-05-24 11:19:23 AM
The only problem is that a half-hour later, you want to bury someone again.
 
2012-05-24 11:24:11 AM
Was the other driver a health inspector?
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2012-05-24 11:24:45 AM
SlothB77: The "Nanjing judge" refers to an infamous 2006 incident where a young man named Peng Yu went to the aid of an elderly woman who had fallen down on the street in the eastern city of Nanjing. At the woman's request, Peng helped take her to the hospital only to have the woman turn around and accuse him for being the person who knocked her down. A Nanjing judge then ruled that "common sense" suggested that Peng only took the woman to the hospital because he was guilty and ordered him to pay her medical expenses.

No it doesn't.


I'm sure there was a little more to the story. Thats common sense.
 
2012-05-24 11:31:11 AM
Was Joe Pesci driving? Who keeps a shovel in their trunk?
 
2012-05-24 11:33:35 AM
But surely it's legal here in the US, right? I mean China's a communist country while we're protected by the Constitution. Isn't there something in the Bill of Rights that guarantees the individual's freedom to bury whomever they want without fear of reprisal?
 
2012-05-24 11:43:16 AM
Hey subby, TFA never says the victim was "the driver of the other car". Sounds a lot more like she was a pedestrian.

/And fark them, really, always getting in the way of my Hummer.
 
2012-05-24 11:47:55 AM
She was a girl and isn't killing girls legal in China? That is like sending Brian to jail for killing a dog with his car and burying it. They just have to deal with Stewie.
 
2012-05-24 11:49:29 AM
Man, I hope that's an isolated incident.
 
2012-05-24 12:10:08 PM
We ain't seen nothin yet. Wait til the economy crashes over here after The Amateur gets done with it.
 
2012-05-24 12:16:51 PM
buckeyebrain: The only problem is that a half-hour later, you want to bury someone again.

Full of win.
 
2012-05-24 12:37:02 PM
Not surprising.

To give farkers a background on Chinese DUI laws, DUI is defined in China by having even ONE drink. It isn't dependent on BAC or a field sobriety test. If the driver has even had one beer and the police somehow know (through smell or red-facedness), they're legally DUI. Now, it is true that higher officials are more or less impervious to punishment for DUI. I've even caught my boss (his cousin is some City level CCP official) plastered off his ass riding his scooter through town. Never been caught, I've even seen him pass a cop with a bottle of Baijiu in his hand with no reaction from the cop.

Off the top of my head I can't remember the punishment for DUI but I do know it is much more strict in China than the US. Its at least a few years in jail on the first offense but I'd have to ask someone to know for sure. I know it used to be completely unenforced for the most part until a few years ago when DUI was out of control. With all that said though, its pretty hard to actually get caught. Most Chinese police are either too corrupt, too coddled or too lazy to do much of anything. Their version of patrol cars are usually parked somewhere on the side of the road with the officers sitting inside. I'd say 60% of the time they're asleep/passed out drunk, always with the lightbar going.

tl;dr: don't DUI in China. Also don't bury the victim if you do.
 
2012-05-24 01:17:50 PM
uber humper: SlothB77: The "Nanjing judge" refers to an infamous 2006 incident where a young man named Peng Yu went to the aid of an elderly woman who had fallen down on the street in the eastern city of Nanjing. At the woman's request, Peng helped take her to the hospital only to have the woman turn around and accuse him for being the person who knocked her down. A Nanjing judge then ruled that "common sense" suggested that Peng only took the woman to the hospital because he was guilty and ordered him to pay her medical expenses.

No it doesn't.

I'm sure there was a little more to the story. Thats common sense.


"Common sense" to a person who grew up in totalitarian communism isn't the same as "common sense" to a person who grew up in a capitalist democracy.

/especially when it comes to going out of your way, alerting others or otherwise drawing attention, and obeying the law no matter how stupid
 
2012-05-24 01:53:26 PM
A plane crashes in a graveyard in China. Where do they bury the survivors?
 
2012-05-24 01:58:53 PM
offmymeds 2012-05-24 11:33:35 AM

But surely it's legal here in the US, right? I mean China's a communist country while we're protected by the Constitution. Isn't there something in the Bill of Rights that guarantees the individual's freedom to bury whomever they want without fear of reprisal?


Well, so long as the burying has to do with freedom of speech or is related with freedom of religion

/I know what I am talking about
//passed the bar after half a dozen tries
///happy law thingy and part-time bounty hunter
 
2012-05-24 02:01:54 PM
fonebone77: A plane crashes in a graveyard in China. Where do they bury the survivors?

Trick question:

You're in China....

So, you DO bury the survivors!

I guess that joke doesn't work there.
 
2012-05-24 02:25:18 PM
The article is dead on in drawing the connection of this incident to the broader context of decaying social values in China. Instead of enriching society, western style capitalism has instead fostered a vicious trend of everyone for themselves. Traditional schools of morality and Confucian values have given way to utter greed. No one wants to take any responsibility for anything. The almighty Yuan is the only motivator.

I am so sick of seeing stories like this. I am so sick of hearing about greed at every level of society from the common street peddlers serving meat made out of shoe leather to the corrupt officials that purposefully withhold public services from those who are not able to pay the bribe.

It has gone too far and the people's government needs to recognize that while China is performing brilliantly economically, it is stacking itself on top of a quickly decaying foundation.
 
2012-05-24 02:25:37 PM
Adjective Bird Whiskey: [www.joblo.com image 640x480]

You're waking the neighbors! Shut up!


I also just saw Hall Pass the other day. The end has an awesome Stephen Merchant Clip.

I'll give it a whirl why not?
 
2012-05-24 02:38:14 PM
fonebone77: A plane crashes in a graveyard in China. Where do they bury the survivors?

That depends. Is the pilot drunk?
 
2012-05-24 03:14:48 PM
Something something Chinese Fire Drill something something
 
2012-05-24 03:41:17 PM
x333: The article is dead on in drawing the connection of this incident to the broader context of decaying social values in China. Instead of enriching society, western style capitalism has instead fostered a vicious trend of everyone for themselves. Traditional schools of morality and Confucian values have given way to utter greed. No one wants to take any responsibility for anything. The almighty Yuan is the only motivator.

I am so sick of seeing stories like this. I am so sick of hearing about greed at every level of society from the common street peddlers serving meat made out of shoe leather to the corrupt officials that purposefully withhold public services from those who are not able to pay the bribe.

It has gone too far and the people's government needs to recognize that while China is performing brilliantly economically, it is stacking itself on top of a quickly decaying foundation.


To be fair, the Cultural Revolution and the PRC did more to destroy traditional Confucian values in China than capitalism ever did. Look up the Chinese idea of "Face" and "losing face" (dui lian, 丢脸). Its evolution since the cultural revolution has made a mess of Chinese society. Because of this "face" concept, I didn't have anyone to pick me up at the airport when I arrived in China because my boss who was supposed to do it forgot, and if my other boss were to pick me up for him, he would lose face. So, to ensure that no one got embarrassed, I had to wait at the airport like an idiot. Luckily, I hitched a ride with a CCP Transit official who told me it would be a "Great honor" to give me a ride. Nice guy, for a commie.
 
2012-05-24 03:47:23 PM
x333 SmartestFunniest 2012-05-24 02:25:18 PM

It has gone too far and the people's government needs to recognize that while China is performing brilliantly economically, it is stacking itself on top of a quickly decaying foundation.


So all you have to do is kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down?

Hate their government with a passion. But would also hate for my Chinese friends who live there to get hurt in such a collapse.
 
2012-05-24 03:59:52 PM
Why didn't they harvest the organs? They do it to executed prisoners why not the freshly ran over?
 
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