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(Detroit Free Press)   Traffic congestion in U.S. metro areas has dropped 30%, easing motorist tension. Drivers now wave to each other using more than one finger   (freep.com) divider line 93
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2012-05-24 09:05:49 AM
I guess this is upside of having all those cars repossessed.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-24 09:20:44 AM
In before Obama made the gas cost too much.
 
2012-05-24 09:20:46 AM
This is the natural outcome when you have a huge number of people roll off the unemployment charts, never to be seen again.

/until the rioting starts
 
2012-05-24 09:24:47 AM

vpb: In before Obama made the gas cost too much.


Damn!

Ok, inb4 Obama took all are jerbs!
 
2012-05-24 09:25:22 AM

Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: This is the natural outcome when you have a huge number of people roll off the unemployment charts, never to be seen again.

/until the rioting starts


Double Damn!
 
2012-05-24 09:26:06 AM
Pfff, says you subby
 
2012-05-24 09:26:27 AM
I really don't want to click the link, but how are the Freepers spinning this one?

Is it:
1) Obama made gas cost too damn much.
2) Obama doesn't have enough people off unemployment.
3) Obama is a secret socialist Kenyan muslim.
4) All of the above.

Just curious.
 
2012-05-24 09:27:10 AM
Continue letting speculators influence the price of crude followed by oil companies artificially inflating gas prices, and see how much traffic congestion drops even more...when nobody can afford to drive anymore
 
2012-05-24 09:31:34 AM

Dog Welder: I really don't want to click the link, but how are the Freepers spinning this one?


The Detroit Free Press != Free Republic.
 
2012-05-24 09:32:43 AM
all you gotta do to lower the gas prices Fartbongo is show the berf certicafate, why do you hate real merkins so much????
 
2012-05-24 09:33:23 AM
I'm confused, I thought the official unemployment rate had dropped below 9 percent in most of the country? Everything should be hunky-dory now!
 
2012-05-24 09:33:26 AM
This is definitely an interesting issue, but this article sucks at explaining all of the possible factors. They could've just reached out to a lonely civil engineer or self promoting policy maker for the slew of issues. Also the double edged sword inherent in the change like less traffic problems due to less road projects will make more traffic problems later.

/but who am I kidding this will turn into some stupid politics thread.
 
2012-05-24 09:33:36 AM
When enough people are not working traffic does decrease. 30% seems about right.
 
2012-05-24 09:33:38 AM
I guess the fail tag was stuck in traffic for this one.

/daily commuter of the 405
//biatch, please
 
2012-05-24 09:36:08 AM
Not in Atlanta is hasn't.....
 
2012-05-24 09:36:54 AM
Of course traffic is down.

Obama has given everyone magic unicorns so they can fly to their green jobs.

And that's why unemployment is down to 1%.
 
2012-05-24 09:37:18 AM
FTA: Cities that had big drops in congestion often were those that saw road construction slow considerably from 2010 to 2011

No shiat. Less construction means less traffic problems? Wow.
 
2012-05-24 09:37:52 AM

k00k: Not in Atlanta is hasn't.....


QFT
 
2012-05-24 09:38:39 AM
If you don't have a job to go to then where else would you waste money going?
 
2012-05-24 09:39:34 AM
1) According to several news stories lately teenagers are driving less.
2) People are moving from suburbs with multi-car houses to the city where there is "Socialist" Public Transport
3) Telecommuting
4) Bridges and roads are in a terrible state of disrepair
5) Gas prices/unemployment/dey took ur jerbs

/About cover it?
 
2012-05-24 09:41:20 AM
Obvious-article-is-obvious-why-print-it?

\hyphens!
 
2012-05-24 09:42:58 AM

PawisBetlog: Sun Worshiping Dog Launcher: This is the natural outcome when you have a huge number of people roll off the unemployment charts, never to be seen again.

/until the rioting starts

Double Damn!


i.ytimg.com

Damn damn damn damn!

/That's how I heard that in my head.
 
2012-05-24 09:43:32 AM
It all moved to Louisville, KY.

Seriously, don't get on our interstates. 10 mile drive in rush hour is now about 1.5 - 2.0 hours.
 
2012-05-24 09:43:57 AM
CSB time: Yesterday was awesome on my drive home. First some prick in a Cadillac was tailgating me for a solid 10 minutes as we were meandering through the 25 MPH zone near work (a known cop hangout) where I was doing exactly 33 the entire time. We get on the interstate and he goes zooming by. Not a mile later, his car is pulled over on the side of the road with flashers going. Just desserts. Of course, with a car on the side of the road every farking person in Chicago has to slam on the brakes to see, so everything was getting backed up worse than usual. Some prick on a motorcycle goes flying by on the shoulder at 50+ MPH while all I can do is watch. Mind you interstates around Chicago are like a Mad Max free for all - the city refuses to police them and the state has no manpower to do it. There's no such thing as a cop presence, so you just have to grit your teeth and accept that some assholes will get away with it. Not yesterday though - another couple miles up the road, and lo and behold the police have pulled someone over - it's the prick on the motorcycle. I slow as I pass and give a thumbs up to the cop.

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Dog Welder: I really don't want to click the link, but how are the Freepers spinning this one?


And Freep.com is the Detroit Free Press, not Free Republic, dumbass. Not everything is a hate-filled politics screed.
 
2012-05-24 09:44:10 AM
I was still trying to give you the finger, Subby. I just thought that if I waved all five of them it meant FUUUUUUUUUUU!
 
2012-05-24 09:44:44 AM

thecpt: This is definitely an interesting issue, but this article sucks at explaining all of the possible factors. They could've just reached out to a lonely civil engineer or self promoting policy maker for the slew of issues. Also the double edged sword inherent in the change like less traffic problems due to less road projects will make more traffic problems later.

/but who am I kidding this will turn into some stupid politics thread.


And why would a lonely civil engineer have anything to say about why people aren't driving as much? People got no jobs, people got no gas money. Civil engineering got nothing to do with it. The boringest answer is usually correct. I think that's called Occam's Razor or something.
 
2012-05-24 09:45:30 AM
Well, with the upcoming Memorial Day weekend, the traffic congestion on I-95 in Connecticut is as dense as ever..
 
2012-05-24 09:45:54 AM

The Irresponsible Captain: 1) According to several news stories lately teenagers are driving less.
2) People are moving from suburbs with multi-car houses to the city where there is "Socialist" Public Transport
3) Telecommuting
4) Bridges and roads are in a terrible state of disrepair
5) Gas prices/unemployment/dey took ur jerbs

/About cover it?


Not really.. but we get the point you're trying to make with your cutting-edge wit.
 
2012-05-24 09:46:33 AM
Agree w K00k, Atlanta seems worse than ever...
 
2012-05-24 09:47:13 AM
Having to Drive on either 128/I-95 or 1-93 in Boston every day, I call this article bullshiat, and it should be forced to commute 20 miles in Boston traffic everyday
 
2012-05-24 09:49:09 AM

irwin_m: Agree w K00k, Atlanta seems worse than ever...


As is Dallas/Ft Worth. An hour for 18 miles this morning. Yay, I-635 being a parking lot for much of its length, even more so than usual, making everybody evade that shiat by going on MY alternative route instead. And overturned cattle truck this morning, with cows scampering all over the place.
 
2012-05-24 09:50:01 AM
In my area, every major artery in/out of the city is all but closed for construction until at least November. Commute times for me have gone from 15-20 minutes to almost 2 hours. It's an utter mystery why they decided to close them all simultaneously.
 
2012-05-24 09:50:03 AM
As someone who has never driven to work since I got my first after-college job, meh. Even with all their faults, I much prefer the LIRR and the subways to driving.
 
2012-05-24 09:50:45 AM

Dog Welder: I really don't want to click the link, but how are the Freepers spinning this one?

Is it:
1) Obama made gas cost too damn much.
2) Obama doesn't have enough people off unemployment.
3) Obama is a secret socialist Kenyan muslim.
4) All of the above.

Just curious.


FTFA:
Bak says the data show that the reduction in gridlock on the nation's roads stems from rising fuel prices; lackluster gains in employment and modest increases in highway capacity because of construction projects completed under the federal stimulus program.

So all of the above is correct. As long as you consider the federal stimulus program, initiated by Bush and several GOP congressmen, and renewed by Obama and several DEM congressmen, to be socialism.
Personally, I don't think it's socialism, I think it's just bad fiscal policy to devalue your currency during a recession. It's never worked unless real productivity matched it, and with unemployment rising, real productivity has gone down the tubes.
cue George Carlin, "those must be some damn big tubes. Somebody would have seen them."
 
2012-05-24 09:50:54 AM

CruJones: No shiat. Less construction means less traffic problems? Wow.


Until the road crumbles and the bridge falls into the river, then everyone gets detoured onto one-lane country roads that are equally ill-maintained.

What I don't get is why we let things go so long. Is it really not possible to perform routine, basic maintenance on roads and bridges on a regular basis instead of waiting forty years until the damn thing is just about ready to fall off its bearings into the valley below so that the construction ties up traffic in both directions for three years straight?

/ oh, wait, I keep forgetting we have better places to spend taxpayer money than basic infrastructure maintenance and upgrades... like bombing foreigners and giving handouts to profit-reaping oil companies....
 
2012-05-24 09:52:34 AM
All this clean air and energy conservation allows us to see that Obama is destroying America.

On a clear day, I can see the huge mountain of money that bailed out GM. They still haven't spent it all, except for a few billion they sent to China to build cars for 1.5 billion Chinese.
 
2012-05-24 09:52:43 AM
You can thank bicyclists and transit riders for that.
 
2012-05-24 09:53:23 AM
Not in NoVA. Taking the Beltway -> GW Parkway route (complete with the 500 ft deathtrap merge from GW to 395) is as crappy a drive as ever.

// I can't even take that route home because the Legion Bridge/Inner Loop is the WORST place in the world to be on a weekday afternoon
// Rock Creek Pkwy for the win...ish
// stupid bikers
 
2012-05-24 09:53:50 AM
not in the dfw metroplex! then again about 1/2 to 2/3 of the freeways are under construction right now, so lane & exit/entrance ramp closures aren't helping matters. these are upgrades that should've been made probably 10 years ago just to keep up with population/traffic growth.
 
2012-05-24 09:53:59 AM

zixr: I guess the fail tag was stuck in traffic for this one.

/daily commuter of the 405
//biatch, please


Not Fark's fault your city blows goats for bus money, then has to take the 405 because of inadequate transit service.
 
2012-05-24 09:55:33 AM

superdude72: thecpt:
And why would a lonely civil engineer have anything to say about why people aren't driving as much? People got no jobs, people got no gas money. Civil engineering got nothing to do with it. The boringest answer is usually correct. I think that's called Occam's Razor or something.


Because it's their job to know why. Civil engineers also get involved with policy making and have done plenty of surveys and digital simulations to see how their decisions and implementations of projects directly effect traffic. Ignorantly saying jobs and gas money might not do the problem justice, especially considering how big the investments in engineer's salary and project's funding are.

I thought the correlation between employed areas and traffic was interesting. Makes sense in two ways: more work equals more people on the roads, but also more work equals more tax revenue equals more money on project funding equals more traffic.
 
2012-05-24 09:55:39 AM

Dr Dreidel: Not in NoVA. Taking the Beltway -> GW Parkway route (complete with the 500 ft deathtrap merge from GW to 395) is as crappy a drive as ever.

// I can't even take that route home because the Legion Bridge/Inner Loop is the WORST place in the world to be on a weekday afternoon
// Rock Creek Pkwy for the win...ish
// stupid bikers


Seriously, Metro DC area blows. Getting really, really tired of 270/495.
 
2012-05-24 09:55:42 AM

bungle_jr: not in the dfw metroplex! then again about 1/2 to 2/3 of the freeways are under construction right now, so lane & exit/entrance ramp closures aren't helping matters. these are upgrades that should've been made probably 10 years ago just to keep up with population/traffic growth.


Because, as we all know, the best way to alleviate traffic is to build the road bigger and encourage more people to drive that route.
 
2012-05-24 09:56:50 AM
Fewer povs on the road is one upside to the higher gas prices.

/one door closes - another opens, etc.
 
2012-05-24 09:57:20 AM

Iblis824: Having to Drive on either 128/I-95 or 1-93 in Boston every day, I call this article bullshiat, and it should be forced to commute 20 miles in Boston traffic everyday


Seriously, and I use Route 1/Tobin Bridge. Storrow Drive can kiss my ass. Get your farking 93 traffic away from me.
 
2012-05-24 09:58:49 AM
I mostly go out late at night now, to steal food .....
 
2012-05-24 09:58:52 AM
Who ever put this report together hasn't spent any time in Dallas.
 
2012-05-24 10:02:43 AM
Despite being a conservative, I do note that it's funny that Obama takes the blame for Conservative Big Oil CEOs' and Wall Street policies' effects on the price of gas. Trust me: Romney winning isn't going to make a lick of difference, just like Bush didn't.
 
2012-05-24 10:02:45 AM

Baloo Uriza: bungle_jr: not in the dfw metroplex! then again about 1/2 to 2/3 of the freeways are under construction right now, so lane & exit/entrance ramp closures aren't helping matters. these are upgrades that should've been made probably 10 years ago just to keep up with population/traffic growth.

Because, as we all know, the best way to alleviate traffic is to build the road bigger and encourage more people to drive that route.


while i see your point, i counterpoint with all these people were already driving it on roads that were built big enough for 1/2 the traffic

i'm sure you can easily counter my counterpoint with something about commuter rail and more bus lines, and i can't say i disagree with you, but i don't make these decisions AND i love to drive AND where i live, even if we get better/more commuter rail on the ft worth side, i'd probably still have to drive half my distance to work to get to a park & ride location...so i'd be quite unmotivated to use it
 
2012-05-24 10:07:33 AM
Now it's two fingers?.

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