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(Fox News)   Scientists now looking to find evidence of extraterrestrials by using amateur astronomers, snipe hunters   (foxnews.com) divider line 23
    More: Unlikely, amateur astronomers, radio signals, Seth Shostak, radio telescopes, Allen Telescope Array, citizen scientists, aliens, SETI  
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2012-05-24 10:51:40 AM  
Hahah SETI has been around for how long now? At least 13 years? Way to be in the lead on breaking news, Fox!
 
2012-05-24 10:54:28 AM  
Oh wow, I was just guessing based on when I started (first year in college in 1999), but apparently the initial release date was 13 years and 7 days ago. I win the internets!
 
2012-05-24 11:07:58 AM  
Hmmm I wonder how long I can be the only one commenting in this thread for?
 
2012-05-24 11:08:00 AM  
 
2012-05-24 11:08:45 AM  
Has there ever been a thread where literally only one person made all the comments? Well, I mean for a thread with greater than 1 or 2 comments, I mean.
 
2012-05-24 11:10:21 AM  
Way to ruin my fun, thanks a lot J. Frank Parnell.
 
2012-05-24 11:12:37 AM  
I too am an alumnus of the Seti@Home class of 1999. I've noticed that despite not always being able to run the software and not having a superfast computer, I manage to maintain my upper middle class place in the rankings through sheer inertia. As people join and drop out, I float at roughly the same position. I suspect there is a lesson to learn about society there. I'm guessing that it is really hard to stop being a member of the elite once you are well-established early in the game. Hence the fact that in the 1880s, roughly the same amount of land was in the hands of the Upper Classes as in 1080s, and it was often the same families. Very embarassing for Nineteenth Century believers in liberalism and progress.

There are many projects you can join besides Seti. You can do research to advance the exploration of promising chemicals (protein folding) and many other data intensive scientific projects. You can also model climate. The climate model starts in 1812 or thereabouts and models various aspects of climate (including global temperatures, cloud-cover, precipitation, etc.) into the current time. You can watch your little Earth rotate with the climate changing through the years. Predicting the past allows climate modelers to predict the future by honing the accuracy of their models against existing data in an evolutionary process. Of course, if you don't believe in science, models, facts, truth or climate change, it's just a wast of time.

Oddly enough, people who don't believe in truth, facts, models, science or climate change are always appealing to th truths, facts, models, science, etc. (or what they THINK is truth, facts, models, and science) to prove their own points.

Humans are dumber than half a brick, as I always say. And clueless. And willfully ignorant and illogical. And they aren't too intellectually honest, either.

Google "Boinc" and you can download software and sign up for projects which will run in the background or as a screensaver.

Or, if you are super-lazy, you can use this link: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/

Of course, anybody that lazy is not going to download anything, or even read anything.

What are you still here for?

You are sure to find something worthwhile to do with your computer's immense unused power provided you care, unless you are one of those people who find satisfaction in turning it off and going out to do something else. That's good too. Saves money and energy, just like fighting climate change for realsies.
 
2012-05-24 11:18:19 AM  
There have been many many times throughout the history of astronomy where amateurs have helped discover new things.
 
2012-05-24 11:20:08 AM  

Grither: Has there ever been a thread where literally only one person made all the comments? Well, I mean for a thread with greater than 1 or 2 comments, I mean.


I don't think so. Unless the mods only allowed one person to comment for some reason.

Grither: Way to ruin my fun, thanks a lot J. Frank Parnell.


Didn't mean to spoil your fun. I'll do what i can to help you realize your dream next time.
 
2012-05-24 11:22:31 AM  
seti@home came on AOL disks.
 
2012-05-24 11:56:23 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: Aliens already responded to the Arecibo message, right next to a radio telescope. As if to say, why are you looking out there?


I am pretty sure that is a hoax crop circle
 
2012-05-24 12:14:02 PM  

machoprogrammer: I am pretty sure that is a hoax crop circle


As opposed to all the real ones?
 
2012-05-24 01:14:03 PM  

Grither: machoprogrammer: I am pretty sure that is a hoax crop circle

As opposed to all the real ones?


It's rather easy to tell the difference between fake and genuine ones. With fakes the plant stems are broken when pressed down with boards, but with genuine ones they are bent but not broken. As if they were softened when moved, and hardened after.

I can't speak about that one in particular having those qualities, though.
 
2012-05-24 01:30:40 PM  
The real problem is that like the professional astronomers, the amateur ones are made out of meat.
 
2012-05-24 01:38:03 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: It's rather easy to tell the difference between fake and genuine ones. With fakes the plant stems are broken when pressed down with boards, but with genuine ones they are bent but not broken. As if they were softened when moved, and hardened after.

I can't speak about that one in particular having those qualities, though.


The story went on to say that the circles appeared to have all of the trademarks of so-called "genuine" crop circles, including bent, unbroken stalks, perfect circularity, outward-spiraled grain, and the lack of footprints or walkways into the patterns.

"It took maybe a half-hour to make three," Becky said. "We used a rope and our feet. It was real easy to make. Someone held one end of the rope, and I stood in the middle and they just ran around in a circle."

Long and fellow Georgia Skeptic Larry Johnson thought up the hoax, which they hoped would demonstrate the ease with which amateur circle-makers could manufacture "real" circles. They also hoped to attract the attention of the local Mutual UFO Network chapter (of which Long is a member) and some local broadcast media. They had videotaped the entire process, and later took close-up still photos of their work.

Johnson then kept a vigil on the circles for several days, noting that the crops remained bent despite heavy rains, and that they continued to grow in the bent condition, both phenomena that circle enthusiasts claim are paranormal.

"Every type of grain we walked on bent and didn't break, " Long said. "I can't imagine why everyone thinks it's so remarkable that the crop circle grain is bent and not broken!"

 
2012-05-24 02:01:41 PM  
 
2012-05-24 02:07:04 PM  
And because i never get tired of posting it.

mmmgroup2.altervista.org

/click for more details
//obviously something a couple hoaxsters quickly made in one night
///then never took credit for
 
2012-05-24 02:12:49 PM  
Actually, here is a more comprehensive analysis of it. That previous link didn't explain things very well, and was almost entirely opinion.
 
2012-05-24 02:46:55 PM  
 
2012-05-24 02:48:37 PM  

J. Frank Parnell: And because i never get tired of posting it.

[mmmgroup2.altervista.org image 500x316]

/click for more details
//obviously something a couple team of hoaxsters quickly made in one night
///then never took credit for



Mostly correct.
 
2012-05-24 03:00:43 PM  

dittybopper: The real problem is that like the professional astronomers, the amateur ones are made out of meat.


Talking meat?
 
2012-05-24 03:13:33 PM  
They'd have better luck going on down to their local church to find evidence of Jesus rather than relying on those heathens and witches.
 
2012-05-24 03:15:51 PM  

DrPainMD: dittybopper: The real problem is that like the professional astronomers, the amateur ones are made out of meat.

Talking meat?


"You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

I feel so *DIRTY* now.
 
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