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(NYPost)   Triple Crown contender I'll Have Another could be Barry Bonds of horse racing, if you believe his trainer's rap sheet of wanton horse doping   (nypost.com) divider line 43
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2012-05-23 08:38:02 PM
how you gonna dope a horse with wantons?
 
2012-05-23 08:51:41 PM
Well... this is going to put a damper on the Belmont party I was thinking of having.
 
2012-05-23 09:03:56 PM
Are there odds over whether this horse will break a leg during the race and have to be put down immediately after? Or have they fixed that problem?
 
2012-05-23 09:36:02 PM
Dullahan will win the Belmont anyways
 
2012-05-23 10:21:07 PM
Somehow I don't think that everyone's going to hate the horse.
 
2012-05-23 10:26:42 PM
False positives can happen in horse drug testing.

If you wanted Barry Bonds, you should have been watching Big Brown's attempt in 2008. Absolutely no one connected to that horse had any appeal, from his yuppie mafia owner to his sleezeball of a trainer, Dutrow.
 
2012-05-23 10:45:36 PM
What size hat does the horse wear?
 
2012-05-23 11:04:58 PM
I'll Have Another doesn't get nearly as many walks.
 
2012-05-24 12:11:50 AM
Ambivalence: Are there odds over whether this horse will break a leg during the race and have to be put down immediately after? Or have they fixed that problem?

Any horse can pull a Derrick Rose.
 
2012-05-24 12:38:45 AM
Is there some reason not to give the horse steriods? Does it ruin the meat's flavor? Make the glue less sticky?
 
2012-05-24 12:49:25 AM
bukketmaster: Is there some reason not to give the horse steriods? Does it ruin the meat's flavor? Make the glue less sticky?

Well, usually they sell breeding rights for the horse after he's done competing. I would guess that if you're willing to pay thousands of dollars for horse spunk, you'd want the specimen that's naturally better, not the one that takes the best drugs.

/I'm going to get a "horse spunk" tag on someone's list. :(
 
2012-05-24 12:49:53 AM
Turn that cheating John Elway-faced motherfarker into Elmer's glue!!
 
2012-05-24 12:52:44 AM
Damn you to all to Hell, Subby, for making me click a Phil Mushnick column and giving him a page hit.
 
2012-05-24 01:09:02 AM
It's true. His face is much longer now than even 6 months ago
 
2012-05-24 01:14:35 AM
At least they don't dope the jockeys. Nobody wants to have a buff, moody midget around.

/Or is that how the Leprechaun movies started?
 
2012-05-24 01:26:01 AM
Harv72b: Nobody wants to have a buff, moody midget around.

Speak for yourself.
 
2012-05-24 01:47:03 AM
Electriclectic: /I'm going to get a "horse spunk" tag on someone's list. :(

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"Yellow 4" seemed to be the closest color...
 
2012-05-24 02:13:05 AM
Harv72b: At least they don't dope the jockeys. Nobody wants to have a buff, moody midget around.

/Or is that how the Leprechaun movies started?


Years ago, I bought a bag of shrooms, ate them on the spot, and hung around the dealer's place while I waited for them to kick in. Right as I started feeling it a drunk, shirtless, surprisingly muscular midget slammed the door open. He was all pissed off because someone keyed his car, and he was trying to figure out who did it. He was carrying a bat to take out their kneecaps. He ranted for a few minutes and left, and I left a few minutes later so I could get home before I really started tripping balls. I walked back with a friend, who informed me that the midget used to be a professional wrestler, one of those little dudes who used to tag along with Doink the clown. Blew my mind.
/CSB
 
2012-05-24 02:57:31 AM
Is it wrong that I read "Triple crown contender I'll Have Another" and thought the article was about Josh Hamilton?
 
2012-05-24 06:09:47 AM
Ambivalence: Are there odds over whether this horse will break a leg during the race and have to be put down immediately after? Or have they fixed that problem?

Typically, that's a problem for horses in the more "established" blood lines, due to generations of inbreeding. I don't know this horse's pedigree, but seeing he was bought so cheap, I'm guessing he's not of any Seattle Slew/Secretariat descent.
 
2012-05-24 06:51:32 AM
Ambivalence: Are there odds over whether this horse will break a leg during the race and have to be put down immediately after? Or have they fixed that problem?

He's built pretty old-type, which makes that a little less likely. Unless he's all jacked on roids, of course.

If you want a messed up horse, look at Big Brown in 08. Dutrow's a really sketchy guy.
 
2012-05-24 07:07:56 AM
Until someone brings out conclusive proof of doping, I'll still be rooting for I'll Have Another. It's a good story, and Horse Racing really needs another potential triple-crown race.
 
2012-05-24 07:12:08 AM
MmmmBacon: Until someone brings out conclusive proof of doping, I'll still be rooting for I'll Have Another. It's a good story, and Horse Racing really needs another potential triple-crown race.

What horse racing needs is someone to win who's not in the old money crowd. It will help broaden the sport, and hopefully reduce the breeding of the same blood lines and help weed out some negative traits in a lot of the race horses today.
 
2012-05-24 07:16:42 AM
Until someone brings out conclusive proof that all the horses are clean, I'll still be rooting for I'll have Another. It's a decent story and anyone who follows Horse Racing knows it is dirty, dirty, dirty. Plus I heard the sample was tainted because it wasn't delivered to Fedex quickly enough. The sample taker thought the fedex office was closed on Saturday and took the sample home to the company approved fridge in his basement, but he forgot about the fedex kinkos in the strip mall and it was open. Innocent! Or as innocent as any of them.

/So yeah, guilty.
 
2012-05-24 07:22:39 AM
Shakedown attempt by the last holdouts of the mafia in New York to either goose the odds or shakedown the owner. Nothing to see here folks, until there is a positive test of THIS horse, move on.
 
2012-05-24 07:29:04 AM
while we are at it, Lasix needs to be banned as well.

if you can't run clean, you can't run.
 
2012-05-24 07:41:18 AM
babysealclubber: MmmmBacon: Until someone brings out conclusive proof of doping, I'll still be rooting for I'll Have Another. It's a good story, and Horse Racing really needs another potential triple-crown race.

What horse racing needs is someone to win who's not in the old money crowd. It will help broaden the sport, and hopefully reduce the breeding of the same blood lines and help weed out some negative traits in a lot of the race horses today.


Horse racing is and always will be 'the old money crowd.' I don't care how new you are to it. The point is to become 'old money.'

Anyway this is a non-story that horse racing doesn't need. Hopefully it just withers & dies over the next 2 weeks.
I really think this horse has a shot. Bodiemeister has proven to be a 9 furlong master or an inexperienced Seattle Slew that burns himself up too quick. The rest of this year's 3yo crowd just ain't got the speed to do it. I'll Have Another seems to have the tactical ability & patience to pull this off.
 
2012-05-24 08:49:17 AM
FishyFred: Well... this is going to put a damper on the Belmont party I was thinking of having.

It shouldnt, this is a bullshiat article about a horse's trainer, not the horse and the doping is more in line with the blood/oxygen tampering the cyclists did not injecting with anything and horses are tested more vigorously than athletes since there is gambling involved.

Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Shakedown attempt by the last holdouts of the mafia in New York to either goose the odds or shakedown the owner. Nothing to see here folks, until there is a positive test of THIS horse, move on.

Exactly, this guy is a douche. Reading his wiki page makes him sound like just writing articles to biatch and get a rise out of people, hes like a /b/ poster with a job.
 
2012-05-24 09:17:43 AM
Bobby_and_The_Gorilla: Shakedown attempt by the last holdouts of the mafia in New York to either goose the odds or shakedown the owner. Nothing to see here folks, until there is a positive test of THIS horse, move on.

This is like watching an 80s wrestler break kayfabe.
 
2012-05-24 09:19:53 AM
FishyFred: Well... this is going to put a damper on the Belmont party I was thinking of having.

Then you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-05-24 09:45:27 AM
Ima10urin8: while we are at it, Lasix needs to be banned as well.

if you can't run clean, you can't run.


But how is the horse going to have perfect vision?
 
2012-05-24 10:07:45 AM
Harv72b: At least they don't dope the jockeys. Nobody wants to have a buff, moody midget around.

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Is he rich?
 
2012-05-24 10:14:02 AM
dookdookdook: Electriclectic: /I'm going to get a "horse spunk" tag on someone's list. :(

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"Yellow 4" seemed to be the closest color...


Why do you know that?
 
2012-05-24 10:26:09 AM
Chariset: False positives can happen in horse drug testing.

If you wanted Barry Bonds, you should have been watching Big Brown's attempt in 2008. Absolutely no one connected to that horse had any appeal, from his yuppie mafia owner to his sleezeball of a trainer, Dutrow.


I felt sorry for Kent Desormeaux after Dutrow threw him under the bus for pulling Big Brown up at Belmont. God forbid you try to save the golden goose from breaking his leg and getting destroyed when it's clear he has nothing in the tank that day.
 
2012-05-24 10:51:59 AM
So the greatest horse to ever run a race then?
 
2012-05-24 11:07:31 AM
As an aside, I have an uncashed winning ticket from Churchill. So I'm taking a gamble that I'll have another will make this happen. Those things are already getting high bids on eBay.
 
2012-05-24 11:09:50 AM
Horse race announcers often say "(name) is out in front." Sometimes I wonder what the result would be if someone ended the name of their racehorse with "out in front." In this case, instead of naming him "I'll Have Another," name him "I'll Have Another Is Out In Front."
 
2012-05-24 12:01:21 PM
Harv72b: At least they don't dope the jockeys. Nobody wants to have a buff, moody midget around.

/Or is that how the Leprechaun movies started?


The jockeys are all doped up, too. Big time. Dirty, dirty business.
 
2012-05-24 01:24:00 PM
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Horse race announcers often say "(name) is out in front." Sometimes I wonder what the result would be if someone ended the name of their racehorse with "out in front." In this case, instead of naming him "I'll Have Another," name him "I'll Have Another Is Out In Front."

Your plan would work but for the Jockey Club only allows for 18 characters in a name.
 
2012-05-24 01:59:30 PM
poor horses.
 
2012-05-24 02:05:57 PM
Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: Sometimes I wonder what the result would be if someone ended the name of their racehorse with "out in front." In this case, instead of naming him "I'll Have Another," name him "I'll Have Another Is Out In Front."

Just name him Out in Front.

"I'll Have another is out in front, but breaking away from the pack is Out in Front! Out in Front is gaining on I'll Have Another who is out in front! Out in Front is now out in front! I'll Have Another noses ahead at the line in front of Out in Front!"
 
2012-05-24 02:17:44 PM
 
2012-05-24 10:32:49 PM
Chariset: Best stretch call ever:

A horse named Mywifenosevrything in the same field as a horse named Thewifedoesntknow


That was great. Good job by the announcer not tripping over his words, and still managing to have a little fun with the names.
 
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