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(The New York Times)   Alas, the vetting of Mitt Romney's Mormonism by the mainstream press has begun   (nytimes.com) divider line 111
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2012-05-23 08:33:37 PM
Mr. Romney's penchant for rules mirrors that of his church, where he once excommunicated adulterers and sometimes discouraged mothers from working outside the home.

Does this mean no women in his administration?

On the plus side it would mean no Newt in his administration.
 
2012-05-23 08:36:43 PM
Yeah, how dare we wonder what the man, you know, believes about the nature of the world.
 
2012-05-23 08:47:47 PM
I almost married a Mormon.

/yes, they have the magic underpants... *sigh*
//they also burst into tirades when their goofiness is questioned
 
2012-05-23 08:52:34 PM
Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"
 
2012-05-23 08:55:02 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"


Yup. Leave the magic at home and we're cool.
 
2012-05-23 08:55:27 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"


Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?
 
2012-05-23 08:56:06 PM

for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?


Well, no.
 
2012-05-23 08:57:47 PM

for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?


Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?
 
2012-05-23 08:59:05 PM
Stupid MSM getting their orders from 0blamo himself! Attacking an oponent based on religious beliefs is exactly what a Muslim Empty suit would do!
 
2012-05-23 09:03:10 PM

qorkfiend: for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?

Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?


Sure. Some politicians see zero problem with saying they will govern according to the bible.
 
2012-05-23 09:03:43 PM
Mormons are no weirder than anyone else. I find it hilarious/sad that people still care about his faith.

/not LDS, but grew up with Mormon family/friends
//exposure to magic underwear didn't brain my damage
///slashies come in threes
 
2012-05-23 09:03:47 PM
Mormonism is disturbing on a number of different levels and I don't think I would vote for a Mormon under any conceivable circumstances, but that's a moot point because Mitt Romney is Mitt Romney.
 
2012-05-23 09:03:55 PM
we get it, he's rich!
 
2012-05-23 09:04:49 PM
His religion isn't the problem. It's the fact that he is willing to bend to whatever position is politically advantageous for him.

And, right now, the moral right has a huge amount of pull in our society and government. Why on earth should I even begin to believe that Romney wouldn't grab the wheel and make a sharp right turn on domestic and economic issues?
 
2012-05-23 09:05:11 PM

ariseatex: Mormons are no weirder than anyone else. I find it hilarious/sad that people still care about his faith.

/not LDS, but grew up with Mormon family/friends
//exposure to magic underwear didn't brain my damage
///slashies come in threes


One invisible sky wizard is pretty much like any other.
 
2012-05-23 09:06:19 PM

qorkfiend: for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?

Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?


Yes, an Atheist.
 
2012-05-23 09:08:24 PM

ariseatex: Mormons are no weirder than anyone else. I find it hilarious/sad that people still care about his faith.


You spelled cult wrong.
 
2012-05-23 09:08:41 PM
They think that they will become a god over their own planet if they have been really good when they die.

Seriously. Sure magic underpants, secrecy, baptizing dead people, white ethnocentrism, general chauvinism, door to door proselytizing, serious issues with gays, no swearing, no booze, no caffeine, and general odd behavior are all strange, but thinking you become a god with your own planet to run is just plain made-up.
 
2012-05-23 09:08:41 PM

Raharu: qorkfiend: for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?

Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?

Yes, an Atheist.


cache.ohinternet.com

Politicians will give non-honest answers regardless of faith/no faith.
 
2012-05-23 09:11:07 PM
Cult: An unpopular religion.

Religion: A popular cult.
 
2012-05-23 09:12:26 PM

ariseatex: Raharu: qorkfiend: for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?

Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?

Yes, an Atheist.

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Politicians will give non-honest answers regardless of faith/no faith.


I would expect an atheist to answer that question honestly because, atheists don't have metaphysical beliefs.
 
2012-05-23 09:17:41 PM
I think the religious beliefs a president claims to hold are fair game.
 
2012-05-23 09:18:53 PM

Raharu: ariseatex: Raharu: qorkfiend: for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?

Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?

Yes, an Atheist.

[cache.ohinternet.com image 562x437]

Politicians will give non-honest answers regardless of faith/no faith.

I would expect an atheist to answer that question honestly because, atheists don't have metaphysical beliefs.


But an atheist politician would have to consider the potential to lose votes if they're honest about it, depending on where they're running for office. I don't think an atheist would necessarily be more/less likely to be honest about it. They would still be a politician first and foremost.
 
2012-05-23 09:18:54 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Cult: An unpopular religion.

Religion: A popular cult.


Well said
 
2012-05-23 09:20:21 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: Cult: An unpopular religion.

Religion: A popular cult.


True, but they aren't all equivalent WRT potential damage they can wreak on a secular society... Mormons are bound to their faith tighter than superglued buttcheeks.
 
2012-05-23 09:20:29 PM
Next up...

"How black liberation theology shaped Obama"

Oh wait, we're still not allowed to talk about that.
 
2012-05-23 09:20:48 PM

Raharu: I would expect an atheist to answer that question honestly because, atheists don't have metaphysical beliefs.


Since when? There's plenty of metaphysical beliefs you can have without needing to believe in God or religion.
 
2012-05-23 09:20:56 PM

madgonad: but thinking you become a god with your own planet to run is just plain made-up.


How cool would that be? God of your very own planet.
I shall call my planet Orgasm and she shall shudder under my awesome powers.
 
2012-05-23 09:21:00 PM
Leading students through stories about Jesus and the Nephite and Lamanite tribes

I wonder how often Romney will be bringing up the Nephite's and Lamenite's on the campaign trail when speaking about his faith.
 
2012-05-23 09:22:50 PM
Obligatory:

Remember folks, every time you see Mitt Romney, he is wearing magic underwear that he believes will protect him from physical harm.

1857massacre.com

Are you curious about the structure of the Mormon afterlife? Consult these easy-to-understand diagrams:

nowscape.com

manilovefilms.com

That's right. Your spirit babies and multiple wives will join you on your Kolob-like planet.
 
2012-05-23 09:22:53 PM

theknuckler_33: Nephite's and Lamenite's


He's gonna talk about sex addicts and flooring?
 
2012-05-23 09:23:44 PM

Raharu: I would expect an atheist to answer that question honestly because, atheists don't have metaphysical beliefs.


Yah but that doesn't mean they won't do what is advantageous. Having "metaphysical beliefs" isn't what makes a person a liar.
 
2012-05-23 09:24:57 PM

randomjsa: Next up...

"How black liberation theology shaped Obama"

Oh wait, we're still not allowed to talk about that.


Since when have you dipshiats ever -stopped- talking about that?
 
2012-05-23 09:26:04 PM
randomjsa

Next up... "How black liberation theology shaped Obama"

Oh wait, we're still not allowed to talk about that.


Wouldn't want the blacks having liberty, now would we?
 
2012-05-23 09:27:35 PM

for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?


Depends. Am I the winning bidder and did the payment clear? Romney believes whatever he is paid him to believe.
 
2012-05-23 09:27:43 PM

Minus1Kelvin: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Yup. Leave the magic at home and we're cool.


And how many people who are religious can completely separate themselves from their religion?
 
2012-05-23 09:28:53 PM

randomjsa: Next up...

"How black liberation theology shaped Obama"

Oh wait, we're still not allowed to talk about that.


Knock yourselves out. You tried it ad nauseum 4 years ago and it didn't stick. Want to try it again? Feel free. Noone is stopping you... other than the GOP themselves apparently.
 
2012-05-23 09:29:54 PM

for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?


I would expect at least two honest answers from him, actually.
 
2012-05-23 09:30:39 PM
"...his eldest son, Tagg, said in an interview..."

Mitt's eldest son's name is Tagg?

"Tagg, could you tell Batt that dinner's ready?"

"Sure Dad! I'll see if I can find Ball and Nett too!"
 
2012-05-23 09:31:23 PM

randomjsa: Next up...

"How black liberation theology shaped Obama"

Oh wait, we're still not allowed to talk about that.


Simple economic and social policy as dictated by Christ. It doesn't work for most right wing Christians.

But, let's talk about the Mormon belief in a Kolob.
 
2012-05-23 09:33:12 PM
American exceptionalism. Bs. The empire is on the down slide, not the upside, if you listen to republicans.
 
2012-05-23 09:33:33 PM

ariseatex: Raharu: qorkfiend: for good or for awesome: A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"

Would you expect an honest answer from Romney?

Would you expect an honest answer from anyone?

Yes, an Atheist.

[cache.ohinternet.com image 562x437]

Politicians will give non-honest answers regardless of faith/no faith.


No need to drink alone, no need to laugh alone!

boollette.free.fr
 
2012-05-23 09:34:23 PM
An awful lot of you are fixated on what Mitt Romney covers his penis with. We get it. He's handsome.
 
2012-05-23 09:37:57 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: Meh. The only valid religious question for a politician is, "Do you understand that this is a secular nation and there is no place for your metaphysical beliefs in the decisions you make in the public sphere, should you be elected?"


I'm pretty sure its literally impossible for someone's metaphysical beliefs to not effect their decisions.
 
2012-05-23 09:42:45 PM

Erix: "...his eldest son, Tagg, said in an interview..."

Mitt's eldest son's name is Tagg?

"Tagg, could you tell Batt that dinner's ready?"

"Sure Dad! I'll see if I can find Ball and Nett too!"


www.gamerking.com

"I do not appreciate your mockery. Tagg is a perfectly acceptable name. Just like Mogh and Gowron and Betor and Track and Trigg and Lursa. I am disappointed that you are being...sarcastic."
 
2012-05-23 09:42:49 PM
I'm growing concerned about his outright refusal to submit his birth certificate for inspection. That's something a terrorist would do.
 
2012-05-23 09:43:18 PM

gameshowhost: randomjsa: Next up...

"How black liberation theology shaped Obama"

Oh wait, we're still not allowed to talk about that.

Since when have you dipshiats ever -stopped- talking about that?


This. Hannity brings it up about every 25 minutes.
 
2012-05-23 09:43:48 PM
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2012-05-23 09:44:49 PM

smeegle: madgonad: but thinking you become a god with your own planet to run is just plain made-up.

How cool would that be? God of your very own planet.
I shall call my planet Orgasm and she shall shudder under my awesome powers.


You actually aren't too far off from the truth.

I had fantasies like that too. And I knew they were fantasies. Maybe it is just the Agnostic in me talking, but I just don't know how you get to that kind of belief structure. Mitt has been in it for the money and power, which makes some sense, but the masses that blindly tithe each month and actually believe in something that was clearly made up by Joseph Smith in the same way that Gary Gygax forged D&D will always astound me.
 
2012-05-23 09:50:31 PM

madgonad: but the masses that blindly tithe each month and actually believe in something that was clearly made up by Joseph Smith in the same way that Gary Gygax forged D&D will always astound me.


I didn't know he did that? Huh.

It's like how Ron L. Hubbard started Scientology. Frakking bizarre.
But,, I would like to have my very own planet.
I would smite smite smite all the time.,,, maybe create blobs with eyes and stuff.
*cough,,sigh
off to get a cookie.
 
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